What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

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What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

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You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?

Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula

It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from

The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help

Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers

I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?

My answer would be no because I know that dragons are big creatures, therefore if they existed they would have been seen by people and they would have been discovered.
they are big, can fly, spit fire and are noticed pretty easy.
Now returning to 'God'.
There isn't a good description of how that 'creature' looks like nor where to find it--> you can't be sure it doesn't exist.
Our knowledge is yet way too smal to make claims like 'god doesn't exist'.

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

That is my dragon, it's invisible and has a ghost form.

Does it exist now? What about leprechauns and wizards that hide from us?

no, there is a possibility of it existing.
leprechauns and wizards are imaginary creatures that people came up with.
It is known that they are made up because people told other people they made em up.
It's unknown if God is made up or there really were visions and all that crap.
People could be refering to other creatures as God without us knowing they meant those creatures.
There are so many questions about this subject that aren't aswered yet, therefore you can't be claiming things like 'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist " or 'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'

So if your girlfriend/boss/whatever asks you if unicorns exist would you say  'there is a possibility'  ?

What about people that claim to have seen aliens? Do you think it is possible they are speaking the truth?

Do you believe in russells teapot? it MIGHT be there

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Irfox, could you tell me who created 'us' or how did we come? I really want an Atheist to come up with an answer to this question

You're presenting a loaded question by saying 'created'. And the answer is I don't know, go ask a biologist.

What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

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What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

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What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

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What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

This whole topic is about wether we believe such a being exists or not.. he clearly already stated he does not believe in something like that

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What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

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What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

Just don't post in this topic

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What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

Just don't post in this topic

I'm debating the existence of God from my perspective?

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What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

This whole topic is about wether we believe such a being exists or not.. he clearly already stated he does not believe in something like that

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What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

Just don't post in this topic

I'm debating the existence of God from my perspective?

''I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing.''

'' But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh.  ''

Debate is over

We believe in Allah, and you people ask us why you believe in something that doesn't exist or have seen before, Just a question. Does it really bother you or tickles ur ankle to know why?

Lets put it in this way
We believe in Allah And we know that he EXISTS, proofs are, 1 The universe HAVE NOT EXISTED ALONE LIKE THIS someone has to be wise to predict what will happen if he/she/it did this or that 2, How did the humans EXIST in the first place? Allah has created us adding every single system in our bodies(Believe it or not its true) 3, You are right now on the computer, who created the computer, it was Charles Babbage, Who created Charles? who gave Charles the brain to think and create something that we're currently using?

Believe it or not, WE Believe that Allah exists and if it really bothers that you guys think we believe in something that doesn't exist, Then you must go take some religion classes...