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I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.

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But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.

If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.

I still don't believe it. It is kinda suprising me but i won't believe it.
It cud be a lie(not sure)

LIE WTF?
I LIVE IN NORWAY, in norway shit like this rarely happends besides the other guy who was a psychopat 22/7/11.
If something like this happends, it get broadcasted on the national channel run by government for freaking years in here.
All newspaper wrote about it. And you could see a video a neighbour took from when the man was crawling outside to the street from the apartment (the guy who didnt die).
So no this is not bullshit. He wrote God on the wall cause as he said himself, he got a vision from god.

Its not something you cant believe because its true lol.
This is proven with death, stabs and coma. Pictures, videoes and witnesses.
If we relate this to God on the other hand.

No pictures - just imagination, no witnesses - just people hoping.
We are in 2015, growing up religious is starting to get more and more unusual now because former religious people
can see that it is bullshit. And the numbers will keep raising, and one day you will realize the same.

Why it happened in Norway? That's what tickles me also.
When i ment by lying is that THE Guy who murdered these people might be lying Who knows?

Why it happened in Norway, Between all the countries Why Norway?

Quote from: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 08:41:12 pm

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Quote from: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 07:13:01 pm

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Quote from: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 05:37:42 pm

Quote from: Bubblebeam2 on July 26, 2015, 10:28:50 pm

I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.

---

---

But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.

If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.

I still don't believe it. It is kinda suprising me but i won't believe it.
It cud be a lie(not sure)

LIE WTF?
I LIVE IN NORWAY, in norway shit like this rarely happends besides the other guy who was a psychopat 22/7/11.
If something like this happends, it get broadcasted on the national channel run by government for freaking years in here.
All newspaper wrote about it. And you could see a video a neighbour took from when the man was crawling outside to the street from the apartment (the guy who didnt die).
So no this is not bullshit. He wrote God on the wall cause as he said himself, he got a vision from god.

Its not something you cant believe because its true lol.
This is proven with death, stabs and coma. Pictures, videoes and witnesses.
If we relate this to God on the other hand.

No pictures - just imagination, no witnesses - just people hoping.
We are in 2015, growing up religious is starting to get more and more unusual now because former religious people
can see that it is bullshit. And the numbers will keep raising, and one day you will realize the same.

Why it happened in Norway? That's what tickles me also.
When i ment by lying is that THE Guy who murdered these people might be lying Who knows?

Why it happened in Norway, Between all the countries Why Norway?

Quote from: Ashootsh on July 27, 2015, 08:47:28 pm

Quote from: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 08:41:12 pm

Quote from: Ashootsh on July 27, 2015, 07:25:59 pm

Quote from: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 07:13:01 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on July 27, 2015, 06:41:37 pm

Quote from: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 05:37:42 pm

Quote from: Bubblebeam2 on July 26, 2015, 10:28:50 pm

I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.

---

---

But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.

If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.

I still don't believe it. It is kinda suprising me but i won't believe it.
It cud be a lie(not sure)

LIE WTF?
I LIVE IN NORWAY, in norway shit like this rarely happends besides the other guy who was a psychopat 22/7/11.
If something like this happends, it get broadcasted on the national channel run by government for freaking years in here.
All newspaper wrote about it. And you could see a video a neighbour took from when the man was crawling outside to the street from the apartment (the guy who didnt die).
So no this is not bullshit. He wrote God on the wall cause as he said himself, he got a vision from god.

Its not something you cant believe because its true lol.
This is proven with death, stabs and coma. Pictures, videoes and witnesses.
If we relate this to God on the other hand.

No pictures - just imagination, no witnesses - just people hoping.
We are in 2015, growing up religious is starting to get more and more unusual now because former religious people
can see that it is bullshit. And the numbers will keep raising, and one day you will realize the same.

Why it happened in Norway? That's what tickles me also.
When i ment by lying is that THE Guy who murdered these people might be lying Who knows?

Why it happened in Norway, Between all the countries Why Norway?

The murder lied? He killed only one? One person survived, but is permantly damaged for life.
He told what he remembered, the murder told what happened to him.
Thats why we know what happened. Thats why they know what happened.
Why Norway? What kind of question is that?

Why did 9/11 happend in New York?

It has nothing to do with religion if a person murders someone and tells it was because of a vision from god. That guy must have been ill and he needs special treatment from doctors. *even tho he most likely will never be 100% fine again*
I bet there have been thousands of murderers who acted because of some kind of voices they heard inside their heads. This Norwegian case is no different.

Quote from: Il Skill L on July 27, 2015, 09:35:48 pm

It has nothing to do with religion if a person murders someone and tells it was because of a vision from god. That guy must have been ill and he needs special treatment from doctors. *even tho he most likely will never be 100% fine again*
I bet there have been thousands of murderers who acted because of some kind of voices they heard inside their heads. This Norwegian case is no different.

I know, but Why like why? Is it just because they want to ruin the picture of the religion he believes in or something? is it just some kind of hatred towards this religion or that.

I believe religions were created to give SOME people a push in the right direction. For SOME ,  believing in a higher power can help them become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

i suggest you all "believers" to read this...

http://www.atheismresource.com/2011/hey-christian-read-bible-15-year-atheist-christian-school-speaks-out

"But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true."

Quote from: Avenus on July 28, 2015, 10:34:03 am

i suggest you all "believers" to read this...

http://www.atheismresource.com/2011/hey-christian-read-bible-15-year-atheist-christian-school-speaks-out

"But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true."

So I encourage you to go out, whoever you are, whatever religion you are: read about your own religion, and read about someone else’s too. Maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer. But at the very least, you will know a little more about the world. As the motto goes, knowledge is power.

^ is from the link
Could take a peak to read someone's else religion... As she said Knowledge is Power.

Quote from: Ashootsh on July 28, 2015, 10:52:07 am

Quote from: Avenus on July 28, 2015, 10:34:03 am

i suggest you all "believers" to read this...

http://www.atheismresource.com/2011/hey-christian-read-bible-15-year-atheist-christian-school-speaks-out

"But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true."

So I encourage you to go out, whoever you are, whatever religion you are: read about your own religion, and read about someone else’s too. Maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer. But at the very least, you will know a little more about the world. As the motto goes, knowledge is power.

^ is from the link
Could take a peak to read someone's else religion... As she said Knowledge is Power.

True. But then again, i have taken a peak in every religion after having religion as a subject in school for 13 years now.

Quote from: Avenus on July 28, 2015, 10:56:35 am

Quote from: Ashootsh on July 28, 2015, 10:52:07 am

Quote from: Avenus on July 28, 2015, 10:34:03 am

i suggest you all "believers" to read this...

http://www.atheismresource.com/2011/hey-christian-read-bible-15-year-atheist-christian-school-speaks-out

"But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true."

So I encourage you to go out, whoever you are, whatever religion you are: read about your own religion, and read about someone else’s too. Maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer. But at the very least, you will know a little more about the world. As the motto goes, knowledge is power.

^ is from the link
Could take a peak to read someone's else religion... As she said Knowledge is Power.

True. But then again, i have taken a peak in every religion after having religion as a subject in school for 13 years now.

To me it seems like your teacher has done some crappy work then because you're just being disrespectful towards different religions.

You said that religion caused psycho related bullshit. Also you said that god is the biggest murderer and questioned his nature.. Even tho I am not religious i'm pretty sure thats offensive towards people who believe.

"What it seems like to you doesn't matter to anyone. "
Also why are you calling me a "crybaby"?
You make all those long ass replies and try to make religion look bad and now you're calling me a crybaby?