Dear moders and adminers and thomy and high adminers.
If you don't pk, don't make pk changes.
I don't know whose brilliant idea it was to change the attack speed of dharoks axe or to add immunity to the teleport, but those add-ons are crap IMHO.
First let's get to the dh axes.
The attack speed is so fast that you can just 'axe' each other to dead lol.
A secondary weapon is not needed anymore since the attack speed of the axe is insane. The skill factor of pking gets less significant after every genius update to the pvp system.
The wilderness is becoming a duel arena v2.
The wilderness is a dangerous place and is made to rek each other. It has all kind of pkers in it, farcasters, rushers, 1vs1'ers.
When you added the teleport immunity you fucked up the rushing pk style.
I know that a lot of people are mad and butthurt when they get rushed and that they love that they can escape a rush with just one click.
But don't forget that those rushers have feelings too and they need to handle with tons of hate everyday, this teleport immunity is fucking them up even harder.
I don't know the motives why the teleport immunity got added, the only reason I would think of is that players wanted to be safer in wilderness.
I'll repeat myself, the wilderness is a dangerous place and making it 'safer' is insanity since you enter it at your own risk and you know the dangers of it.
What will be the next update, guardian angel active in wilderness?

i agree with you but lets see what the dev's have to say about it

right that took a lot of time reading and understanding ... Lol you need to try and make it make more sence man or its going to be hard for others to read just saying

On topic:
I kinda disagree with you, i see you say about wilderness being dangerous but still some players want to go in and fight the monsters in wildy not always pk... and if your clever then you can still rush people ! theres ways in doing it but lets see what the dev's say about it

thanks, can you teach me how to rush with a video pls?
I heard you are such a good pker, I saw you so many times in wilderness!!
Also can I hire you for some English lessons because your sentences are so flawless.
I'm sorry I'm not as talented as you are

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

PK:Killing players
Rushing: Killing players in a fast way
Now tell me how rushing isn't pking.
There are already anti rush ways(eg:anti melee protection, hugging ditch, veng+antirush).
If people would think they would use them and wouldn't die anymore.
Adding a one click safe is bullshit since the person who thought on what he is going to do and how gets countered by one easy click.
Rushing is a part of the wilderness, why deleting it?
Dharok was underpowered, so giving it an attack speed makes it better.
If you look at dharoks fight atm it's like a stake with armour.
Two people sitting there with their axe equipped hoping for a good hit every 2sec.
Every update makes the luck factor more significant, this isn't a casino.

Actually I do agree with Arjen on the teleport immunity  thingy however not 100% sure of the eh buff, can you tell me about the buff it had received?

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

PK:Killing players
Rushing: Killing players in a fast way
Now tell me how rushing isn't pking.
There are already anti rush ways(eg:anti melee protection, hugging ditch, veng+antirush).
If people would think they would use them and wouldn't die anymore.
Adding a one click safe is bullshit since the person who thought on what he is going to do and how gets countered by one easy click.
Rushing is a part of the wilderness, why deleting it?
Dharok was underpowered, so giving it an attack speed makes it better.
If you look at dharoks fight atm it's like a stake with armour.
Two people sitting there with their axe equipped hoping for a good hit every 2sec.
Every update makes the luck factor more significant, this isn't a casino.

I never said rushing isn't pking all I said was that it isn't a real way of pking, we didn't delete rushing we just nerfed it.
If you are good at rushing you can still pull kills off.

Emps-Scape didn't have this teleport immunity so I don't see why Emps-World should, to be perfectly honest.

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:50:05 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

PK:Killing players
Rushing: Killing players in a fast way
Now tell me how rushing isn't pking.
There are already anti rush ways(eg:anti melee protection, hugging ditch, veng+antirush).
If people would think they would use them and wouldn't die anymore.
Adding a one click safe is bullshit since the person who thought on what he is going to do and how gets countered by one easy click.
Rushing is a part of the wilderness, why deleting it?
Dharok was underpowered, so giving it an attack speed makes it better.
If you look at dharoks fight atm it's like a stake with armour.
Two people sitting there with their axe equipped hoping for a good hit every 2sec.
Every update makes the luck factor more significant, this isn't a casino.

I never said rushing isn't pking all I said was that it isn't a real way of pking, we didn't delete rushing we just nerfed it.
If you are good at rushing you can still pull kills off.

How isn't it a real way of pking lmao, what's not real at it?
You kill players, as real as it gets.
Rushing was already hard to pull off, you made it even harder, why?

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:53:01 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:50:05 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

PK:Killing players
Rushing: Killing players in a fast way
Now tell me how rushing isn't pking.
There are already anti rush ways(eg:anti melee protection, hugging ditch, veng+antirush).
If people would think they would use them and wouldn't die anymore.
Adding a one click safe is bullshit since the person who thought on what he is going to do and how gets countered by one easy click.
Rushing is a part of the wilderness, why deleting it?
Dharok was underpowered, so giving it an attack speed makes it better.
If you look at dharoks fight atm it's like a stake with armour.
Two people sitting there with their axe equipped hoping for a good hit every 2sec.
Every update makes the luck factor more significant, this isn't a casino.

I never said rushing isn't pking all I said was that it isn't a real way of pking, we didn't delete rushing we just nerfed it.
If you are good at rushing you can still pull kills off.

How isn't it a real way of pking lmao, what's not real at it?
You kill players, as real as it gets.
Rushing was already hard to pull off, you made it even harder, why?

When you rush someone you don't give him any chance to fight back so I don't see how that is legit PKing.
Anyway rushing still works if you do it right.

And nobody likes rushers.

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:55:51 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:53:01 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:50:05 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

PK:Killing players
Rushing: Killing players in a fast way
Now tell me how rushing isn't pking.
There are already anti rush ways(eg:anti melee protection, hugging ditch, veng+antirush).
If people would think they would use them and wouldn't die anymore.
Adding a one click safe is bullshit since the person who thought on what he is going to do and how gets countered by one easy click.
Rushing is a part of the wilderness, why deleting it?
Dharok was underpowered, so giving it an attack speed makes it better.
If you look at dharoks fight atm it's like a stake with armour.
Two people sitting there with their axe equipped hoping for a good hit every 2sec.
Every update makes the luck factor more significant, this isn't a casino.

I never said rushing isn't pking all I said was that it isn't a real way of pking, we didn't delete rushing we just nerfed it.
If you are good at rushing you can still pull kills off.

How isn't it a real way of pking lmao, what's not real at it?
You kill players, as real as it gets.
Rushing was already hard to pull off, you made it even harder, why?

When you rush someone you don't give him any chance to fight back so I don't see how that is legit PKing.
Anyway rushing still works if you do it right.

And nobody likes rushers.

Idc is people like rushers or don't.
I care about the nerfs because of hate, not because of rational thinking.
If you are stupid enough to go into wilderness, start fapping and not paying attention it's your own fault you die, you can't blame someone else for that.
If someone makes use of your stupidity for his own good, whose fault is it?
Let's delete all special attacks?
you will still be able to kill people if you do it right!

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 04:19:49 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:55:51 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:53:01 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:50:05 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

PK:Killing players
Rushing: Killing players in a fast way
Now tell me how rushing isn't pking.
There are already anti rush ways(eg:anti melee protection, hugging ditch, veng+antirush).
If people would think they would use them and wouldn't die anymore.
Adding a one click safe is bullshit since the person who thought on what he is going to do and how gets countered by one easy click.
Rushing is a part of the wilderness, why deleting it?
Dharok was underpowered, so giving it an attack speed makes it better.
If you look at dharoks fight atm it's like a stake with armour.
Two people sitting there with their axe equipped hoping for a good hit every 2sec.
Every update makes the luck factor more significant, this isn't a casino.

I never said rushing isn't pking all I said was that it isn't a real way of pking, we didn't delete rushing we just nerfed it.
If you are good at rushing you can still pull kills off.

How isn't it a real way of pking lmao, what's not real at it?
You kill players, as real as it gets.
Rushing was already hard to pull off, you made it even harder, why?

When you rush someone you don't give him any chance to fight back so I don't see how that is legit PKing.
Anyway rushing still works if you do it right.

And nobody likes rushers.

Idc is people like rushers or don't.
I care about the nerfs because of hate, not because of rational thinking.
If you are stupid enough to go into wilderness, start fapping and not paying attention it's your own fault you die, you can't blame someone else for that.
If someone makes use of your stupidity for his own good, whose fault is it?
Let's delete all special attacks?
you will still be able to kill people if you do it right!

How are you so certain that the immunity while teleporting was targeted to nerf rushing?

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 04:23:22 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 04:19:49 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:55:51 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:53:01 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:50:05 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

PK:Killing players
Rushing: Killing players in a fast way
Now tell me how rushing isn't pking.
There are already anti rush ways(eg:anti melee protection, hugging ditch, veng+antirush).
If people would think they would use them and wouldn't die anymore.
Adding a one click safe is bullshit since the person who thought on what he is going to do and how gets countered by one easy click.
Rushing is a part of the wilderness, why deleting it?
Dharok was underpowered, so giving it an attack speed makes it better.
If you look at dharoks fight atm it's like a stake with armour.
Two people sitting there with their axe equipped hoping for a good hit every 2sec.
Every update makes the luck factor more significant, this isn't a casino.

I never said rushing isn't pking all I said was that it isn't a real way of pking, we didn't delete rushing we just nerfed it.
If you are good at rushing you can still pull kills off.

How isn't it a real way of pking lmao, what's not real at it?
You kill players, as real as it gets.
Rushing was already hard to pull off, you made it even harder, why?

When you rush someone you don't give him any chance to fight back so I don't see how that is legit PKing.
Anyway rushing still works if you do it right.

And nobody likes rushers.

Idc is people like rushers or don't.
I care about the nerfs because of hate, not because of rational thinking.
If you are stupid enough to go into wilderness, start fapping and not paying attention it's your own fault you die, you can't blame someone else for that.
If someone makes use of your stupidity for his own good, whose fault is it?
Let's delete all special attacks?
you will still be able to kill people if you do it right!

How are you so certain that the immunity while teleporting was targeted to nerf rushing?

Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

You said it yourself lmao

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 04:28:13 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 04:23:22 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 04:19:49 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:55:51 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:53:01 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:50:05 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

PK:Killing players
Rushing: Killing players in a fast way
Now tell me how rushing isn't pking.
There are already anti rush ways(eg:anti melee protection, hugging ditch, veng+antirush).
If people would think they would use them and wouldn't die anymore.
Adding a one click safe is bullshit since the person who thought on what he is going to do and how gets countered by one easy click.
Rushing is a part of the wilderness, why deleting it?
Dharok was underpowered, so giving it an attack speed makes it better.
If you look at dharoks fight atm it's like a stake with armour.
Two people sitting there with their axe equipped hoping for a good hit every 2sec.
Every update makes the luck factor more significant, this isn't a casino.

I never said rushing isn't pking all I said was that it isn't a real way of pking, we didn't delete rushing we just nerfed it.
If you are good at rushing you can still pull kills off.

How isn't it a real way of pking lmao, what's not real at it?
You kill players, as real as it gets.
Rushing was already hard to pull off, you made it even harder, why?

When you rush someone you don't give him any chance to fight back so I don't see how that is legit PKing.
Anyway rushing still works if you do it right.

And nobody likes rushers.

Idc is people like rushers or don't.
I care about the nerfs because of hate, not because of rational thinking.
If you are stupid enough to go into wilderness, start fapping and not paying attention it's your own fault you die, you can't blame someone else for that.
If someone makes use of your stupidity for his own good, whose fault is it?
Let's delete all special attacks?
you will still be able to kill people if you do it right!

How are you so certain that the immunity while teleporting was targeted to nerf rushing?

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

You said it yourself lmao

That was my own opinion, I never confirmed if it was the intention or not.

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 04:31:08 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 04:28:13 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 04:23:22 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 04:19:49 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:55:51 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:53:01 pm

Quote from: Fireblast12 on April 20, 2015, 03:50:05 pm

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

These changes barely had any impact, dharok was underpowered so this buff was needed.
Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

Either learn a real way of PKing or stop complaining

PK:Killing players
Rushing: Killing players in a fast way
Now tell me how rushing isn't pking.
There are already anti rush ways(eg:anti melee protection, hugging ditch, veng+antirush).
If people would think they would use them and wouldn't die anymore.
Adding a one click safe is bullshit since the person who thought on what he is going to do and how gets countered by one easy click.
Rushing is a part of the wilderness, why deleting it?
Dharok was underpowered, so giving it an attack speed makes it better.
If you look at dharoks fight atm it's like a stake with armour.
Two people sitting there with their axe equipped hoping for a good hit every 2sec.
Every update makes the luck factor more significant, this isn't a casino.

I never said rushing isn't pking all I said was that it isn't a real way of pking, we didn't delete rushing we just nerfed it.
If you are good at rushing you can still pull kills off.

How isn't it a real way of pking lmao, what's not real at it?
You kill players, as real as it gets.
Rushing was already hard to pull off, you made it even harder, why?

When you rush someone you don't give him any chance to fight back so I don't see how that is legit PKing.
Anyway rushing still works if you do it right.

And nobody likes rushers.

Idc is people like rushers or don't.
I care about the nerfs because of hate, not because of rational thinking.
If you are stupid enough to go into wilderness, start fapping and not paying attention it's your own fault you die, you can't blame someone else for that.
If someone makes use of your stupidity for his own good, whose fault is it?
Let's delete all special attacks?
you will still be able to kill people if you do it right!

How are you so certain that the immunity while teleporting was targeted to nerf rushing?

Quote from: Freestuffyay on April 20, 2015, 03:44:35 pm

Also teleport immunity should have been here to begin with it counters rushers so that regular PKers aren't helpless dogs anymore when being rushed.

You said it yourself lmao

That was my own opinion, I never confirmed if it was the intention or not.

This update affects the rushing style the most that's why I presumed that it was an anti rush update.
Anyway, it has an impact on 1vs1 fights aswell , therefore making the update even more crap.
Let's say you are fighting, you get your opponent to low hp.
Before the update you could kill him , after the update he can tab his tele like nothing happened.
Furthemore dh pkers could easily 1hp risk and tab away, not mentioning other ways to last hit and going into safety without dying.