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Offline Triangle Dot

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Clue Scrolls
« on: October 19, 2015, 10:04:52 pm »
I'm not pretty sure, if it has been suggested before too many times, but I would like to bring back again this topic.

Clue scrolls.

Okay, trivia time. First, we need four different tier clues, going from easy ones, that requires basically no skill at all, just usual some transportation here and there and some digging, up till elite ones, which are based on way higher skill requirements and hard NPC to kill in order to obtain rewards. Before starting explaining this all huge suggestion, I also in the end will reffer to loot from crystal chest and Smoke Dungeon chest rewards. Looting the chest in last step of Clue scrolls should vary reward from 3 - 6. As well, teleport scrolls won't be include, since there is a lot of transportation methods at the moment, no need for more.

Easy Clue Scrolls

For those who don't know how easy clue works, I start off, in this tier clue we should use three types of challenges to complete:

1) Anagrams (Mostly, it could be up 15 different anagrams, no more)
2) Emote Clues (Also, should be easy ones)
3) Maps (Part of Maps, where you need to dig, that include to kill gnome(Combat level 10, Hitpoints - 15, Drops: 100% Bones, 500 - 1000 Coins)

Shouldn't be so hard to find out the reward. It should take up to 4 steps length.
Possibly Rewards:
25 - 100 Runes (Any, excluding Astrals.)
50 - 100 (Trout, Cod)
100 - 150 Steel Arrow
5 - 10 Cut Sapphire
10 - 30 Flax
10 - 40 Oak Logs
30 - 70 Logs
25 - 75 Iron Ore
15 - 40 Rune Essence
20 - 40 Coal
1 - 2 Elemental Staves (Staff of Air and etc.)
5000 - 25000 Coins
5 - 15 Purple Sweets(Stackable Food)
1 Any Black Item (Including Knives, Bolts, Nails and etc.)
1 God Page (For this part, I must also add, that we should introduce Armadyl's Book of Law, Ancient's Book of Darkness, Bandos Book of War)
1 Any Bronze (g) or Bronze (t) Item
1 Any Iron (g) or Iron (t) Item
1 Black Pickaxe (lightest Pickaxe in game, useful for runecrafters who go from Edgeville to Abyss.)
10 - 25 Gnomish Firelighters (To make fire more colorful)
1 Black Cane(Cosmetic Item, for show-off purpose)
1 Lamp
1 Magic Watering Can

Medium Clue Scrolls

1) Anagrams (Mostly, it could be up 25 different anagrams, no more)
2) Cryptic Clues (Should be a bit harder to crack than Anagrams challenges)
3) Maps (Part of Maps, that include to kill Gnome(Combat level 30, Hitpoints - 45, Drops: 100% Bones, 5000 - 10000 Coins)
4) Emote Clues (Requires 40 Ranged, 30 Attack, 20 Defence, 40 Magic for items to be wield)

Reward is also bringing more wealth than easy tier clue did, even tho, you'll be needing to complete up to 6 steps to get the final casket.
Possible Rewards:

100 - 150 Runes (Any, excluding Astrals.)
50 - 100 Any Food (Lobster, Swordfish)
120 - 190 Mithril/Adamant Arrow
5 - 10 Cut Emerald
5 - 7 Cut Ruby
30 - 50 Flax
10 - 45 Maple Logs
15 - 60 Willow Logs
25 - 75 Gold Ore
35 - 70 Rune Essence
20 - 40 Mithril Ore
1 - 2 Elemental Battlestaves
25000 - 50000 Coins
15 - 35 Purple Sweets
1 Any Adamant Item
1 God Page
1 Any Adamant (g) or Adamant (t) Item
1 Any Mithril (g) or Mithril (t) Item
25 - 50 Gnomish Firelighters
1 Adamant Cane
2 Lamp
1 - 5 Snapdragon Seeds
2 - 7 Irit Seeds
3 - 8 Avantoe Seeds
1 - 9 Cadantine Seeds
2 - 8 Lantadyme Seeds

Hard Clue Scrolls

1) Anagrams (Mostly, it could be up 30 different anagrams, no more)
2) Cryptic Clues (Should be a bit harder to crack than Anagrams challenges)
3) Maps (Part of Maps, that include to kill Gnome(Combat level 70, Hitpoints - 85, This one uses Magic/Melee. Drops: 100% Bones, Any Herb Seed(varing 2 - 5) Uncommonly)
4) Emote Clues (Requires 60 Ranged, 60 Attack, 45 Defence, 50 Magic, 55 Slayer for items to be wield)
5) Challenge Clues (Here you will be require certain task to do, for certain NPC, let me know for whom.).

Challenges:
1) Wield Dragon Spear
2) Craft Blood Rune
3) Cast Blood Rush
4) Catch Ferret
5) Cook Shark
6) Catch Shark
7) Kill Red Dragon
8. Bury Skeletal Wyvern Bones
9) Slay Cave Horror
10) Farm Avantoe Herb
11) Cut Mahogany Log
12) Smith Mithril Hatchet
13) Mix Super Energy Potion
14) Open Crystal Chest
15) Fletch Maple Longbow
16) Burn Teak Logs
17) Cut dragonstone in dragon bolt-tips
As mentioned before, reward is growing up with tier. On this clue, steps will be between 4 and 8.
Possible Rewards:

150 - 190 Runes (Any, excluding Astrals.)
50 - 100 Any Food (Monkfish, Shark)
70 - 150 Rune Arrow
5 - 10 Cut Diamond
50 - 100 Flax
10 - 45 Teak Logs
15 - 60 Mahogany Logs
25 - 55 Adamantite Ore
75 - 100 Rune Essence
15 - 30 Runite Ore
1 - 2 Mystic Battlestaves
50000 - 75000 Coins
35 - 55 Purple Sweets(Stackable Food)
1 Any Dragon Mask (excluding metal dragons.)
1 Rune Item
1 God Page
1 Any Rune (g) or Rune (t) Item
1 Any Ancient, Armadyl Or Other God Armour.
1 Any Ancient, Armadyl Or Other God D'hide Item.
35 - 60 Gnomish Firelighters
1 Rune Cane
3 Lamp
1 Magic Watering Can
1 Third Age Wand
1 Third Age Longsword
1 Third Age Bow
5 - 15 Snapdragon Seeds
5 - 30 Irit Seeds
5 - 40 Avantoe Seeds
5 - 22 Cadantine Seeds
5 - 28 Lantadyme Seeds

Elite Clue Scrolls


1) Anagrams (Mostly, it could be up 30 different anagrams, no more)
2) Cryptic Clues (Should be a bit harder to crack than Anagrams challenges)
3) Maps (Part of Maps, that include to kill Gnome(Combat level 100, Hitpoints - 115, This one uses Magic/Melee/Ranged. Drops: 100% Bones, Any Herb Seed(varing 5 - 10) Uncommonly)
4) Emote Clues (Requires 80 Ranged, 80 Attack, 80 Strength, 70 Defence, 72 Magic for items to be wield)
5) Challenge Clues (Here you will be require certain task to do, for certain NPC, let me know for whom.).

Challenges:
1) Wield Anger Weapon
2) Craft 30 Blood Rune
3) Cast Ice Barrage On Gargoyle
4) Catch Red Chinchompa
5) Cook Manta Ray
6) Catch Manta Ray
7) Kill King Black Dragon
8. Make 15 Onyx Bolts(e)
9) Slay Gorak with Slayer Helmet
10) Farm Torstol Herb
11) Cut Magic Log with Dragon Axe wielded
12) Smith Adamant Plateskirt using Blast Fusion Hammer
13) Mix Ranging Potion
14) Open Smoke Dungeon Chest
15) Fletch Magic Longbow
As mentioned before, reward is growing up with tier. On this clue, steps will be between 9 and 12.
Possible Rewards:
190 - 250 Runes (Any, excluding Astrals.)
50 - 100 Any Food (Manta Ray, Sea Turtle)
40 - 90 Dragon Arrow
1 - 2 Onyx
4 - 7 Dragonstone
70 - 140 Flax
30 - 75 Yew Logs
25 - 50 Magic Logs
75 - 100 Rune Essence
18 - 53 Rune Bar
1 - 2 Mystic Battlestaves
75000 - 100k Coins
55 - 85 Purple Sweets
1 Any Dragon Item
1 God Page
1 Any Rune Item
1 Katana(Best Weapon In game, PvM wise)
1 Briefcase
1 Any Metal Dragon Mask
55 - 90 Gnomish Firelighters
1 Dragon Cane
4 Lamp
1 Magic Watering Can
10 - 25 Snapdragon Seeds
20 - 70 Irit Seeds
30 - 80 Avantoe Seeds
10 - 42 Cadantine Seeds
23 - 68 Lantadyme Seeds

Now, For Crystal Key Chest. Removing those trimmed, gold-trimmed armour parts would be great idea, as well, as books, excluding mages book, it should be there along with other stuff, they are unnessecary there, adding other stuff, like skilling supplies would be awesome. As for Holy, Unholy, Book of Balance, and other God books, to make those God Books, you need to talk to Fenkenstein, north-east of Canifis, after the Rest In Pieces quest and buy any incomplete any God book for 100k Coins or perfect gold bar.

Vola. Here's my Clue Scrolls Suggestion, explained.
Who drops it, well, it is not much to figure out tho, but okey. Easy task monsters would drop it 1 out of 50, medium clues would be from most of mazcha tasks 1 out of 75, hard clues would be mostly from vannaka tasks 1 out of 100, and elites from almost all bosses, including tormented demons(1 in 100), king black dragons( 1 in 50), and some high slayer level monsters, abyssal demons(1 out of 125), dark beasts(1 out of 100, since it's harder to kill then abyssal demon) and goraks (1 out of 250).
P.S. Fire/Ice/Moss/Hill Giants won't drop clue scrolls.

Futhermore, what you guys think? :)

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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2015, 12:50:54 am »
I like clue scrolls as an idea,  but there are a ton of items you have listed that aren't in game yet,  and would have to be coded from scratch. It would be a ton of work.

Also there are some items that aren't explained (Katana) Stat wise.

Myself,  I probably wouldn't do these clues with your suggested rewards because they kind of suck for the amount of work I would have to put in  but that is only my opinion,  nothing more.


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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2015, 03:49:26 am »
I like clue scrolls as an idea,  but there are a ton of items you have listed that aren't in game yet,  and would have to be coded from scratch. It would be a ton of work.

Also there are some items that aren't explained (Katana) Stat wise.

Myself,  I probably wouldn't do these clues with your suggested rewards because they kind of suck for the amount of work I would have to put in  but that is only my opinion,  nothing more.
Thanks, I appreciate it.
Well, rewards shouldn't be something spectacular, if considering most high level NPCs already drop goodies. Unless, changing drop tables of, let's say, spectrals and revenants, black demons and dragons, then probably, reward table of clue would be improved. By the drops, given to NPCs at the moment, there isn't much to choose from as loot, so I go with new items bringing in game.

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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2015, 07:42:33 am »
This is the first time I have heard of this, as I didn't play Runescape or any other serves. But I think this is a great idea! Would be a great way for some new players to explore what Emps-World has to offer and not only that, who doesn't like getting a random reward!




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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2015, 11:38:01 am »
If you make a suggestion, then dont copy it from RS. We dont have half of those items.

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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2015, 12:43:33 pm »
I personally think clue scrolls don't fit into our server. A good 90% of the original rewards are already obtainable in the game and giving the scrolls enough rewards of it's own is a very hard thing to do. You are so far the one with the best rewards as far as suggesting them goes, but I still don't agree.

Easy clue scrolls with nearly no requirements? I'd say add a few. They don't have to be high. The one thing I like about clue scrolls is that they give people a reason to train to certain levels, even if they don't want to max. There should be level requirements on all clue scrolls, the more difficult the clue scroll, the higher the requirements.

What I think about some of the rewards
  • Skilling items - Should be less raw, bow strings instead of flax, bars instead of ores, etc.
  • God pages - I kind of like this, we'd have to remove the books from crystal chest and maybe give it pages too. The stats of the books should also be changed so that they're not all mage books. They could have some decent offensive stats and pray bonus, would be decent for people on a low budget. Illuminated (basically upgraded) versions of the book could also be added, and an ingredient to make them could be put in clue scrolls. Having to travel all the way to Frankenstain is a bit odd to me, why not just add the base book as a reward and give people the ability to use pages and create the books themselves.
  • Black pickaxe - Weight doesn't really matter all that much, people don't need to mine to get into the abyss, and people that do rc just use the teleport in the ancient spellbook. This would be useless.
  • Magic watering can - I think this reward is already obtainable in too many ways, it should in fact be removed from some things so that it doesn't become entirely worthless.
  • Katana - The best weapon in the game should not be obtained from clue scrolls, period.
  • Custom items - A lot of items in your list are custom, these require time and probably money to create. I don't think something like clue scrolls is worth making that many customs for.

Stripping crystal chest clean of a ton of it's rewards is a bad idea, the chest is already unrewarding as it is and removing rewards would make that worse.

I would absolutely hate getting clue scrolls while doing slayer, if I don't wanna waste the chance to get another I will have to drop whatever I'm doing and go do the clue scroll. It would be way better if they were obtained from thieving and give some thieving exp for solving it.
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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2015, 08:13:02 pm »
In Addition of this section, some map parts will open new and unlocked cities, with some requirements to enter, so, for easy clues, let's say, it could be one in elven camp, 25 agility to enter.

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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2015, 08:21:36 pm »
this has been suggested many, many, many, times before, and i still agree with it, it would bring more stuff to do for the maxed out players or for players who are just bored and don't have anything better to do with their lives :kappa: sadly, thomy just left mary working on the developing and is having a holiday atm :kappa:
thumy, why u du dis, plex clu scrols :doge:

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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2015, 02:53:29 am »
It's been suggested a bunch of times, and as always i do support it, the rewards you have listed do fit the economy, but some aren't even in the game and probably won't be. and the requirements are fair enough to say the least. I'd really like to see this in the game :^)

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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2015, 06:17:59 pm »
I agree, but if i were you, i would take those 3a weapons and put em with elite clues

Anyways, For the rewards you stated, Most of them are in mm crystal chest and it has to be removed and put all the crap that was in it into those clues



I agree, but i think from what i've heard...Clues will take alot of coding Especially with map and crap..

But you got my vote brudda


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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2015, 10:08:30 pm »
Thanks, Guys. Need more opinions. :P

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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2015, 05:38:34 am »
I agree, but if i were you, i would take those 3a weapons and put em with elite clues

Anyways, For the rewards you stated, Most of them are in mm crystal chest and it has to be removed and put all the crap that was in it into those clues



I agree, but i think from what i've heard...Clues will take alot of coding Especially with map and crap..

But you got my vote brudda
Thanks m8, Bring this post up. :)

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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2015, 07:23:08 pm »
If you make a suggestion, then dont copy it from RS. We dont have half of those items.
By your sentence, I can assume, whole Emps-World is Copy of RS. So why don't we delete it for good. lol? Logic - 0.

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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2015, 07:25:27 pm »
If you make a suggestion, then dont copy it from RS. We dont have half of those items.
By your sentence, I can assume, whole Emps-World is Copy of RS. So why don't we delete it for good. lol? Logic - 0.
You're the one without logic. We dont have half of the rewards. You really think that they will add all this shit for some pointless clues?

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Re: Clue Scrolls
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2015, 08:47:06 pm »
Replace c key drops with clue scroll drops, make c key common clue scroll reward, add some runes arrows n resources
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