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Suggestions & Ideas / Re: Steadfast/glaiven/ragefire gloves

« on: September 23, 2017, 10:25:17 pm »

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Off-Topic / Re: What annoys or pisses you off?

« on: September 22, 2017, 06:52:11 pm »

people that think the wiki information makes the updates to the game and not the game that changes the wiki

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Feedback / Re: Overloads

« on: September 19, 2017, 05:02:26 pm »

I get your point but I do think you're exaggerating a bit.

Overloads definitely are a step down in terms of maxhit for melee. I can't deny that, it's a fact. However, zbrews decay and overloads do not. After a minute or two your zbrew boost will drop down to 120 rather than 123. This either prevents you from having to repot every time your stats decay or saves you a fuckton of inv slots you'd waste on extra pots to drink to keep your stats up. Either way that is definitely something I would make overloads for.

You can still use brews with overloads, iirc thomy said they restore themselves back to 120 every 15 seconds. This does seem a bit clunky, maybe we could have it so that drinking a super restore immediately puts you back up to 120 after brewing down? That would be a huge improvement.

I would not be against bringing supers back to 118. It would definitely be beneficial for pkers and people that aren't at the point where they can make overloads yet.

I'll make a seperate topic on brews, was in the middle of writing it anyways.

Most fights in wilderness don't last more than 1 minute to begin with, besides zamorak potions in wilderness we're used not once per fight but more; they had a mechanic that it boosts your stats and heals at the same time. (if you're 59 hp your enemy ags specs, quick way to hop up in hp and gain back potion boost at the same time)

6 minutes in pvp really doesn't mean alot, people go to have a cigarette/make coffee and afk between fights alot. I'm doing it right now typing this reply whilst someone is waiting for me in wild.
Previous system to me, was perfect.

You could have expanded on that system, that was already perfect and made it more useful for people who want 6 minutes boost.
Also @Thomy alot of pkers specifically liked the zamorak brew effect/how it was so that's something to consider.

Also atm if you combo pot with food, your stats are back down to 115 for the majority of the fight

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Screenshots / Re: Emps-World Meme Center

« on: September 19, 2017, 07:54:22 am »

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Update Notes / Re: Updates September 6th - Rare Dyes, Minimap Overhaul and Fixes

« on: September 18, 2017, 04:15:09 pm »

give me some (many) months to get it finished. I assume that an alpha can be ready in a few months

i came back after i heard old emps coming back?
and now its not

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General Discussion / Re: Future of Emps-World - Popularity Discussion

« on: September 15, 2017, 09:57:36 am »

Hello, noob here.

i've read through most of the replies on this Popularity thread
Alot of people talking about oldschool, more pking and fixing economy by making end-game items more rare and expensive.

from my point of view, a new player, none of these ideas seem appealing

oldschool is a chance to start over with items and graphics from good ol' emps-scape, fun for veterans, pointless for people who just started.

wilderness and pkers are spooky as it is (for new players), i won't go near half the bosses because would have to pass through the wilderness to get to them.

making end-game items less available would definitely be healthy for the game, but wouldn't help new players
i think nex supply the demand for super rare and expensive drops for now.

already suggested a party search idea:
https://emps-world.net/forum/index.php?topic=20011.msg155850#msg155850

i think it could help noobs like me getting used to bosses, aswell as help veterans find groups for nex.

sorry for my terrible english

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Guides / Re: Nex' kneesocks' guide to killing Nex

« on: September 15, 2017, 08:02:25 am »

I may have to disagree with the suggested gear setups. Based on the 8 kills I did with you guys yesterday, bulk of the damage you're going to take during the fight goes through defense and prayers, a.k.a. the special attacks in each of the phases. This is why I would personally recommend using void when teaming with 4 people as long as you're familiar with how the phases go. The only advantage that the higher defense bonus will give is against the regular melee hits, which is why I would still use proper armor in solo/duo kills.

Void with Crystal shield (highest melee def shield) is more accurate than armadyl + divine when you factor in the +40% accuracy Void gives. That setup sounds silly af since crystal shield gives no offensive bonuses for range, but the setup only loses by 2 max hits but wins with around 30 attack bonuses when Piety is factored in as well. This difference in accuracy becomes even greater when spectral or divine is used with void, the max hits are equal. That should explain why I've always said that Void has been and is still the best armor set in the game.

I also think that spectral is completely unnecessary when using sara brews to boost defense and HP. I think only one of us got hit in the ice phase once during the 8 kills, and that wasn't even me even though I was a first timer. Keep moving and you should be fine. I would say spectral is only relevant when using melee since sidestepping can cost you a hit or two against Nex, but then again Earl did perfectly fine without it yesterday. Bulk of the damage that I personally took was in the last phase on the slides.

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General Discussion / Re: Future of Emps-World - Popularity Discussion

« on: September 14, 2017, 11:56:50 am »

***

Isn't that what we have said before ? I don't get it yet Thomy focused way 2much on graphics and almost forgot about the content, eventho a lot of people disagreed on it however most of them don't play the game
most of forums users don't care if its gets changed or not, however ing players does care and people who left did care.

the majority of our players left during the break Thomy took 2 years ago or a year ago i don't remember, when he left the server for 3 months or so ( I am not blaming him as a person don't get me wrong, he has his own life and uni to care about instead of the game and I would've done the same if I was in the same situation ) however this won't change the fact that it is the reason.


He spent over a month working on Shadows, and we are really thankful for it however people wanted something to enjoy
like something to make them login again , my laptop can't handle shadows at highest or even medium settings so I keep it off since at low settings its really bad looking and just make my laptop overheat.


My final words on this, What he has done in the last 2 updates are the things that saved the server we went from 40s to 100 + in a week or 2
It means people really wants to play the game and I can actually as a person who spent his last year afking, I am doing a bit of slayer to get some sp and trying to get the new items,

What I think is good for the server ?
Focus a lot into new content, and avoid spending your time on graphical updates
people won't really come to the game if the river looks moving or not, if we have a sunset or not ( not saying its a bad thing again, but I am saying if doing such things means you won't be able to focus on other things then try to not do it )
people came in the last few years because we are the only server that is not shit compared to other servers where you can do everything while staying home, having all of the shops at one place and so on

We don't want the old game back, its gone and we understand that
we want our server to be unique again.


Have a nice day.

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Screenshots / Re: Emps-World Meme Center

« on: September 14, 2017, 09:43:11 am »

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Screenshots / Re: Emps-World Meme Center

« on: September 11, 2017, 09:24:12 pm »

When people say they don't know why they're muted or banned

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Guides / Re: Smalldicks' guide to killing Nex (sort of finished)

« on: September 11, 2017, 12:54:15 pm »

Not the worst guide but here are some tips for some serious improvements:

• You have an awful lot of useless filler text, you should start by removing all of it. I'll mark useless text with strikethrough, I won't check everything thoroughly so I might not catch all of it.
• There are some spelling and grammar mistakes, I won't look very thoroughly for them either but I'll mark the ones I notice with an underline.
• Some parts should be rewritten to make them more clear. I'll mark some of these parts with italics. Although it would be more useful to do that once you've removed all the filler text that doesn't give people any useful information, so I won't really bother with this too much right now.
• For all of these, after you make rough edits and change pretty much all of the guide so far, go through it again to check the details to make sure that the guide is clearly written and easily understandable.
• If something's obvious, then don't mention it.
• If you've already mentioned something in one sentence then don't repeat it in the next one.
• Don't explain what you're going to tell people, but instead just tell them it.
• If you're going to explain something later in the guide then don't bring it up before you do explain it.

Overall I can see that the guide could have some potential, if you work on it a bit.

It's been fun watching everyone struggle but we've withheld information for long enough. This is going to be a full guide to killing Nex.

Keep random banter in off-topic or in your clan topic, this is not an appropriate place for it.

Why should I kill Nex?
Some of you may be wondering why someone would even bother with this, here are a few reasons.

• It's the only boss in this game that has some sort of difficulty to it, some people might find the challenge appealing.
• It drops the best in slot armour for each style
• Its common drops are great value and add up to a lot over time
• It's actually fun to kill

If you want to discuss whether it's worth killing Nex then create a topic in General Discussion. The point of creating a guide is teaching people how to do things if they want to do them.

Stat requirements
It goes without saying that Nex has high requirements. I would recommend being completely maxed. You can get away with less, but you sacrifice efficiency and increase your risk of dying by doing so.

• 99
• 99
• 99 or or
• 70 (preferably higher)
• 70 (to get to Nex)

Avoid stating the obvious and don't waste people's xp by making them read text that doesn't give them any useful information.

Getting to Nex
Nex is located in her own section in the god wars dungeon. Teleport there using a ferocious ring. Starting from the rope, go south and go through the big doors and go through the hole. There is another hole you'll have to go through, this requires 70 agility but it doesn't have a membership check so non-members can go through. After you're through it's a short walk to the boss room.

Directions to Nex.

On your way to the boss room there will be ancient creatures and blood reavers. The mages have the ability to freeze you and it's a multi-combat zone so you could actually die or be slowed down significantly on your way there. Thus I'd recommend using an ancient ceremonial set. Blood reavers will still be aggressive, but the ancient creatures won't touch you. You could also bring gear to lose aggro from the npcs of the other factions, but the run to the doors is short so it's not really necessary.

Once again keep it brief, don't repeat yourself and instead of rambling about doors and holes in a single sentence either break it up to a list of steps or just let the pictures do the explaining.

Teams & instances
It's recommended that you do Nex in groups of 4, as that's the amount of people she'll give a drop. She will also get considerably stronger versus larger groups and in the public room. Instances also prevent someone from coming in and ruining your kill or taking your drops. You can join an instance by right clicking on the door you enter before the boss room. What you enter will be the name of the instance, others will be able to enter it by typing the same name.

How to enter an instance.

It should be noted that anything inside the instance will disappear if there is nobody in the instance. If you die your items will appear outside of the instance, however if your group managed to kill Nex while you were busy walking back your loot will be in the instance.

The actual secret to Nex is coordination and communication. You will have a way easier time if your team is able to properly communicate during the fight. Typing during the fight is not recommended, voice chat is definitely the better option. If you're all on the same page about the fight and you're able to communicate you'll be ahead of the vast majority of people that have gone to kill her so far.

Avoid stating the obvious.

Gearing up for Nex
There's a bank just before the boss room where you can gear up. Obviously the better gear you use the more efficient you'll be at killing Nex. I'm not gonna give you single setup though, since there's not really a "best" one.

Stating the obvious again. If you want to start a sentence with the word "obviously" then don't write the sentence.

Choosing a combat style
All combat styles work at Nex, she has no weakness to a specific style and each style has an effective setup. You're still going to have to choose what to use though. Since most of the people reading this guide won't be very experienced with Nex I'd recommend against melee. Ranged and magic are a matter of dps vs safety. Ranged generally has better dps, a magic setup with blood barrage has better healing and is thus safer.

If you want to emphasize that all combat styles work then just say "All combat styles work." Otherwise if you're not giving any useful information then don't waste people's xp by making them read text that only exists to fill the page.

Slayer tasks
Nex can be assigned as a slayer task by Shenven. It may help to get one for your first few kills as slayer helmet and chaotics increase your dps by a huge amount. She also gives really good slayer exp. You won't have to deal the most damage to her to receive credit for your kill.

If it's advice that will overall help boost performance, then don't limit it to beginners, also remember what the guide's about (not a slayer guide).

Actual gear
A list of things to consider when gearing.

• vs
  Third age vs Gwd armour
  Both are perfectly fine to kill Nex with, if you're inexperienced and don't have gear get 3rd age.
• 
  Spectral spirit shield
  Pretty much the go-to shield for Nex due to its hp boost and operate effect. Will be explained later.
• 
  Statius' warhammer
  A really good way of decreasing Nex' defence. Guaranteed 10% decrease regardless of hit, can use with any style. Is lost on death completely, which is risky.
• 
  Bandos godsword
  If you're using melee it can be better at reducing defense than swh. Don't use if not using melee.
• 
  Onyx bolts (e)
  Best damage for bolts, lifesteal on hit, generally really good for Nex.
• 
  Emerald bolts (e)
  The 10 poison damage will add up if she's poisoned in the beginning of the fight, don't use after she's already poisoned.
• 
  Diamond bolts (e)
  Decent damage, reduces defense by an okay amount over time. Slower than swh but worth using if there's a lack of them.
• 
  Staff of light
  Best staff if you're not on a slayer task, spec decreases incoming damage by 20%.
• 
  Damage and accuracy auras
  Solid boost to dps, quite easy to acquire. Nex would be the place to use them at. Use whichever fits your combat style.

Keep it brief and on point, time is xp and you're wasting it.

Supplies
This is all fairly basic but I'm gonna go over it anyways. As a general rule of thumb always take (4) dose potions. Using potions at the bank before entering the boss room can get you an extra dose of brew, super pot and save an inventory slot on antipoison.

• Manta rays - For when you need to heal up.
• Fury sharks - If you have some, bringing a few for when you get really low could save your life.
• Saradomin brews - Defense boost and healing, don't forget to re-pot after use.
• Super potions - Buff to offensive stats, take which fit your combat style.
• Super restores - To restore prayer points if necessary.
• Super antipoison - Prevents poison damage.

You don't need to explain how food works, I can assure you, people know about it. So only emphasize things that truly might need to be emphasized.

Nex
The current most difficult boss fight explained.


2100 175 165 144 156 156

You can enter her boss room by climbing down the hill in the room where the bank is. Once you go down the only way to get out is to teleport. Bringing a teleport you can use in-combat might come in handy if she respawns before you're out of the room.

A map of the boss room.

You should avoid random comments about the quality of content and you don't need two sentences to tell people that they need a teleport to get out of there.

Phases
Fighting Nex you'll go through 6 phases. These are as follows:

• The starting phase
• The smoke phase
• The shadow phase
• The blood phase
• The ice phase
• The zaros phase

No point in listing these here, considering that the detailed list follows immediately afterwards.

All the phases have different mechanics and should be dealt with accordingly. Nex will switch phases based on how much hp she has left.

Starting phase
2100
Protect from magic

Nex has some attacks she will use in every phase, I'll go over these here. She has a standard melee attack that is single target and can hit around 40s. She often won't target someone for a very long time however be wary that this may happen and eat. She has an AoE attack that will deal damage to everyone nearby as well, this attack changes styles depending on the phase.

If you're standing in the middle there is a chance she'll use what I'll refer to as her sliding attack. She will move across one of the lanes, knocking back and damaging anyone in her path. This will hit you two times for up to 40s, be sure to eat if you get hit. She will move to the middle and say "There is no escape!" when she uses this attack. She will target a single player with this attack and move in the direction that this player is standing relative to the middle. You can dodge this by stepping to any lane to the side of the one she's sliding down. If your group stands in the same lane she will only be able to slide down that lane, thus you'll be able to predict where she goes and have an easier time reacting to this attack. If you dodge you're basically getting a few free hits in.

Nex' slide attack.

This phase is just the start of the fight, there's nothing very special to it. Pray mage as her AoE attacks are magic based. If you're using swh or bgs spec use it immediately. If you're using emerald bolts (e) use them until you see poison damage being dealt to her. Nex will summon Fumus at the end of the starting phase, kill him or she will sacrifice him later to heal for 300 hitpoints. You'll generally want to move close to the corner where the next npc will be summoned so that they can be dealt with quickly.

Smoke phase
2000
Protect from magic

The only thing that changes from the starting phase is that she will attack with a high damage dealing poison. You will be completely immune to this if you've had a dose of super antipoison. Nex will summon Umbra at the end of the smoke phase, kill him or she will sacrifice him later to heal for 300 hitpoints.

Nex summons Fumus.

Nex sacrifices Cruor.

Shadow phase
1600
Protect from ranged

During the shadow phase her AoE attacks will switch from magic to ranged, as such you're advised to pray ranged. She will also lay down an area of shadow barrage that will deal damage over time if you're standing in it. This doesn't hit very high but it hits quite rapidly, focus on getting out of this rather than damaging her. Operating your spirit shield if you're in an AoE is a good way to prevent damage as well. Nex will summon Cruor at the end of the shadow phase, kill him or she will sacrifice him later to heal for 300 hitpoints.

Nex' shadow barrage attack.

Blood phase
1200
Protect from magic

Her AoE attacks will switch back from ranged to magic, switch your prayers accordingly. She will occasionally target the square under every player with blood barrage. This attack can be sidestepped, and if you don't do so she will heal the damage she deals. Pay attention to where your teammates are standing as well, you do not want to walk into a blood barrage that targeted them. Nex will say "I demand your blood!" whenever she uses this attack. Nex will summon Glacies at the end of the blood phase, kill him or she will sacrifice him later to heal for 300 hitpoints.

Nex' blood barrage attack.

Ice phase
800
Protect from magic

The ice phase is why you wear a spectral. During this phase nex uses an ice barrage attack that works similarly to her attack during the blood phase. However, instead of healing her this attack will hit a lot harder than the one in the blood phase. It can hit up to 102. Nex can still use other attacks while the ice barrage attack is on the ground, the damage can stack so it is absolutely vital you dodge. She has another attack specific to this phase where she touches the ground, this attack can freeze you. Glacies can also freeze you, but for a much shorter duration. If frozen make sure to make use of your spirit shield operate do negate the damage from at least one barrage. Prioritize healing rather than attacking. At the end of the ice phase she will say "Zaros, protect me!" and enter the last phase.

Nex' ice barrage attack.

Zaros phase
400
Protect from ranged

Her AoE switches back to ranged, pray accordingly. For this phase you'll have to move to the middle. If you aren't in the middle she will heal back up to 400, lifesteal and reflect all damage dealt to her back to whoever dealt it. It's recommended that you move to the middle near the end of the ice phase. Do that as late into the ice phase as possible as it will be slightly harder to dodge the ice barrage when you're standing near the middle. This is the only phase you're forced to deal with the slide attack, sidestep it as instructed earlier.

Nex' healing when not in the middle during the zaros phase.

Once you've killed her pick up your loot and decide if you want to leave or not. Going for single kills per trip is the safest way to go, going for multiple saves you a bit of time since you'll have to run back less.

This whole section is incredibly boring to read, I'd advise that instead of writing an essay, you just list some important points. This could most likely reduce more than half of the text in this section.

Loot
Being a difficult boss Nex has really good loot. If your group properly splits loot you should profit almost every trip, it's amazing profit in the long term. A lot of her common drops are used for supplies to PvM with so they'll always retain value. She also drops the best armour for each combat style, which is probably what most of you are after. You will also get an elite clue scroll every kill. If you've got the hang of the fight you should average about 3 minutes per kill.

I'll make it easy to grasp what you'll get by giving some numbers, keep in mind this loot is based on groups of 4 and should be split between that group. I'm excluding nex pieces as their value is obviously really high. These values were calculated on 10/9/2017.

Minimum value for a single kill: ~200k
If the entire group gets a low value alchable. Very low chance of this occurring.
Average value for a single kill: ~1m
With blood runes and dragon arrows being replaced by wines of zamorak and onyx bolt tips you should get around a mil per kill.
Maximum value in common drops in a single kill: ~4.8m
This is excluding armour piece drops or the rarer drops of supplies that contain higher amounts.

Only the average drop value will be useful for most people to know whether it's worth spending the amount of money that they might be spending on supplies. Everything else here is xp waste.

Honorable mentions
There are certain items or tactics that are effective but there are reasons not to use them.

• Taking Nex to the middle in every phase
  I'd say Jp invented this during his earlier attempts to solo Nex and that's exactly what I think it's effective for. Taking advantage of the fact that successfully dodging her slide attack gives you a few free hits is good. It can most definitely work in groups, however it's a lot harder to coordinate and there's a high chance someone will mess up.
• Vengeance
  Nex hits high quite often so vengeance would be an effective dps increase. With vengeance other you could have only one person be forced onto lunars and effectively let everyone use veng. The reason this isn't entirely viable is that vengeance other can't be cast while attacking. It also gives you yet another thing to pay attention to during the fight, which is the cooldown. It works, but we came to the conclusion it wasn't worth using.
• Vulnerability, enfeeble and stun
  These spells are very cheap ways to reduce Nex' stats and all cap at 50%. Defense, attack and strength can be reduced and the spells should make the fight quite a bit easier overall. However, due to the fact that it can splash and it locking you into the normal spellbook they aren't entirely the most efficient to use. The runes also take up 3 inventory slots and for damage you'll mostly rely on rod of ivandis. Swh beats it in terms of quickly getting rid of her high defense level and a more dps focused setup will result in faster kills. It's definitely good for people on a low budget or groups without swh however.
• Praying melee
  If you're using a ranged setup it sounds quite reasonable to pray melee instead of magic. Especially if Nex is targetting you. In practice this doesn't really work out as you'll spend a lot more time getting hit by her AoE. Magic setups are generally more resistant to her melee attacks.
• Morrigan's javelins and dragon darts
  Both are very effective but highly expensive. Darts also lack the utility bolts bring. If you don't care too much about money feel free to use them, they're quite good. If you're not an ironman or actually sane it'd be better to stay away from using them. Bringing a single javelin to get a phase over with quickly if necessary isn't too bad of an idea though.
• Mirror shield
  It reduces the damage the monster you have as a slayer task will deal to you. It gets a mention because for it's incredibly cheap price it does quite well so long as you're on a slayer task. It's the only that can completely prevent you from being 1-shot during the ice phase, spectral makes it very unlikely but there's a very slim chance you can get stacked for a 125. It's bad besides that though.
• Ice shield
  If you're using mage you might think using ice shield during the ice phase is a good idea. It does completely prevent any freezes from Nex or Galcies during the phase. Being able to always sidestep is definitely valuable, however there's still the chance you run into an attack that was targeted at someone else. It also lacks the small window of immortality spirit shield operate has. Good during the ice phase if you're using mage and don't have a spectral.
• Regen bracelet and vampyrism
  The idea is to just lifesteal back most of the damage she deals to you. However they don't provide enough to heal you at a rate that would benefit you more than just equipping something for higher dps. Can work as budget options, however far less efficient.

If it's not something that people should do then don't teach people about it in the guide. If you really want to discuss what works and what doesn't, then create a topic in General Discussion instead.

Credit
First off I want to thank my group, Nex' kneesocks. There are quite a few things I wouldn't have discovered without this group and generally speaking they're the reason the release of Nex has been so much fun for me. The time we spent from release until we kind of stopped for a bit had easily been the most fun I've had playing emps recently. From running around the wilderness killing defenseless pvmers to sweaty nex kills, it's all been great.

• Thomy: For finally releasing a boss that is actually more than a goblin on steroids. And also for increasing the character limit of posts from 20.000 to 30.000 so that this could be put in a single post.
• Jp: For the initial test duo where we failed and died. I also learned a couple things from your first solo. I'll acknowledge you as a good PvMer.
• Zack: For suggesting this entire update. :kappa:
• Drugs: Seven.
• Crusher123 and Iron 69: For this conversation, we had a great laugh.
• Everyone that was trying to figure out Nex for themselves: We had a great time laughing at most of you.
• Just humen: For trying.

Don't be a dick and don't name and shame, forum rules apply in the guides section.

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Suggestions & Ideas / Re: Spirit shields

« on: September 11, 2017, 09:21:10 am »

It requires a buff because it's cheap? What?

Arcane is a fashion statement not a shield

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Off-Topic / Re: What song are you listening to now?

« on: September 10, 2017, 09:53:58 pm »

Knock knock
Who's there?
Door

Door who?

Door

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Screenshots / Re: Emps-World Meme Center

« on: September 10, 2017, 06:06:55 pm »

When you're writing a guide

Can't relate at all...

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Suggestions & Ideas / Re: Pest control exp rewards

« on: September 10, 2017, 03:44:26 pm »

Will be part of the next update.