Why is ancient energy so cheap, you can kill someone in 60m gear and loot 3m in energy?

Sets are quite op and looking at energy prices it's nothing to recharge them.

Players just die in wilderness before there's a need to recharge, but it doesnt change the fact that getting useless energy for killing someone in pvp armour is shitty shitty shit shit. Add in some coins or something.

Why is ancient energy so cheap, you can kill someone in 60m gear and loot 3m in energy?

Sets are quite op and looking at energy prices it's nothing to recharge them.

Players just die in wilderness before there's a need to recharge, but it doesnt change the fact that getting useless energy for killing someone in pvp armour is shitty shitty shit shit. Add in some coins or something.

Cuz corrupted items are so damn cheap, which makes getting large number of ancient energy cheap by suiciding to your alt account. Since corrupt shit cannot be repaired, they shouldn't even drop ancient energy IMO.

I agree. There is very little demand for energy because 95% of the armour gets destroyed before it has to be repaired. However insane amounts of energy get pumped into the game everytime someone loses their armour.

I agree. There is very little demand for energy because 95% of the armour gets destroyed before it has to be repaired. However insane amounts of energy get pumped into the game everytime someone loses their armour.

Mhm energy is useless, it has no demand whatsoever.
The little energy you get for killing someone has no value at all.

no one uses ancient armor at pvp, that's why.
but yeah, i agree, something should be done about this

This is indeed a problem. Though ancient energy just needs a bit more use. Maybe repairing barrow pieces with energy could be a thing. It would be a more expensive and more convenient way to repair your broken dh sets.

no one uses ancient armor at pvp, that's why.

Not true, it's being used plenty.

no one uses ancient armor at pvp, that's why.

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Quote from: Drugs on January 22, 2016, 11:51:26 am

Why is ancient energy so cheap, you can kill someone in 60m gear and loot 3m in energy?

Sets are quite op and looking at energy prices it's nothing to recharge them.

Players just die in wilderness before there's a need to recharge, but it doesnt change the fact that getting useless energy for killing someone in pvp armour is shitty shitty shit shit. Add in some coins or something.

Cuz corrupted items are so damn cheap, which makes getting large number of ancient energy cheap by suiciding to your alt account. Since corrupt shit cannot be repaired, they shouldn't even drop ancient energy IMO.

Mfw you can repair corrupt items

Also it could possibly have an exchange for it where you can get a set amount of coins for each energy or something.

Another idea would be to have a shop or something where you can exchange it for pking teleports like edgeville, lassar, and mage bank.

And yet another idea, exchanging ancient energy for other forms of portable charges like barrows armor, Rod of Ivandis, amulet of Glory, or other rechargeables.

Quote from: Someone12116 on January 22, 2016, 11:57:33 am

Quote from: Drugs on January 22, 2016, 11:51:26 am

Why is ancient energy so cheap, you can kill someone in 60m gear and loot 3m in energy?

Sets are quite op and looking at energy prices it's nothing to recharge them.

Players just die in wilderness before there's a need to recharge, but it doesnt change the fact that getting useless energy for killing someone in pvp armour is shitty shitty shit shit. Add in some coins or something.

Cuz corrupted items are so damn cheap, which makes getting large number of ancient energy cheap by suiciding to your alt account. Since corrupt shit cannot be repaired, they shouldn't even drop ancient energy IMO.

Mfw you can repair corrupt items

Also it could possibly have an exchange for it where you can get a set amount of coins for each energy or something.

Another idea would be to have a shop or something where you can exchange it for pking teleports like edgeville, lassar, and mage bank.

And yet another idea, exchanging ancient energy for other forms of portable charges like barrows armor, Rod of Ivandis, amulet of Glory, or other rechargeables.

A pk shop for ancient energy sounds pretty awesome actually

Quote from: Bubblebeam2 on January 22, 2016, 02:57:55 pm

Quote from: Someone12116 on January 22, 2016, 11:57:33 am

Quote from: Drugs on January 22, 2016, 11:51:26 am

Why is ancient energy so cheap, you can kill someone in 60m gear and loot 3m in energy?

Sets are quite op and looking at energy prices it's nothing to recharge them.

Players just die in wilderness before there's a need to recharge, but it doesnt change the fact that getting useless energy for killing someone in pvp armour is shitty shitty shit shit. Add in some coins or something.

Cuz corrupted items are so damn cheap, which makes getting large number of ancient energy cheap by suiciding to your alt account. Since corrupt shit cannot be repaired, they shouldn't even drop ancient energy IMO.

Mfw you can repair corrupt items

Also it could possibly have an exchange for it where you can get a set amount of coins for each energy or something.

Another idea would be to have a shop or something where you can exchange it for pking teleports like edgeville, lassar, and mage bank.

And yet another idea, exchanging ancient energy for other forms of portable charges like barrows armor, Rod of Ivandis, amulet of Glory, or other rechargeables.

A pk shop for ancient energy sounds pretty awesome actually

''PK shop''

Mfw any peasant can farm infinite number of energy by killing their alt acc and the currency would be tradeable, which means you wouldn't even need to PK to buy shit from there.

That's the exact reason why a PK shop cannot exist without some restrictions in the wilderness. A PK shop could work if you were to kill assigned targets in the wilderness. But as long as we have about 30 players in the wilderness, that target system isn't going to work out.

On-topic: Ancient energy appears not to be popular. Whenever you die in an ancient armour set, you drop less ancient energy than the actual amount of charges you have, so in theory it shouldn't be worthless.

That's the exact reason why a PK shop cannot exist without some restrictions in the wilderness. A PK shop could work if you were to kill assigned targets in the wilderness. But as long as we have about 30 players in the wilderness, that target system isn't going to work out.

On-topic: Ancient energy appears not to be popular. Whenever you die in an ancient armour set, you drop less ancient energy than the actual amount of charges you have, so in theory it shouldn't be worthless.

The point is that no one uses the energy because they don't have to. Armour gets lost due to deaths before it has to be repaired.

That's the exact reason why a PK shop cannot exist without some restrictions in the wilderness. A PK shop could work if you were to kill assigned targets in the wilderness. But as long as we have about 30 players in the wilderness, that target system isn't going to work out.

On-topic: Ancient energy appears not to be popular. Whenever you die in an ancient armour set, you drop less ancient energy than the actual amount of charges you have, so in theory it shouldn't be worthless.

Its worthless because its a pvp set, it's used to pk and one does not simply use one set long enough for need to recharge because he either dies or it simply doesn't need recharging.
Amongst pkers where pvp sets are commonly used the most, there is no need to recharge a set with ancient energy.

Even if you make it eat more charges, ancient energy wont become useful because there's already so much of it ingame. It will continue to be useless that way regards to getting it as a drop.

edit: I kinda understand the idea of not getting a set, but charges. But what if player kills another one in pvp set and has no intention to use energy himself. There's nothing that particular person can do with his drop, which is ancient energy. It's not useful nor it is a good drop because the energy market value is shit.

Quote from: Thomy on January 22, 2016, 05:14:34 pm

That's the exact reason why a PK shop cannot exist without some restrictions in the wilderness. A PK shop could work if you were to kill assigned targets in the wilderness. But as long as we have about 30 players in the wilderness, that target system isn't going to work out.

On-topic: Ancient energy appears not to be popular. Whenever you die in an ancient armour set, you drop less ancient energy than the actual amount of charges you have, so in theory it shouldn't be worthless.

Its worthless because its a pvp set, it's used to pk and one does not simply use one set long enough for need to recharge because he either dies or it simply doesn't need recharging.
Amongst pkers where pvp sets are commonly used the most, there is no need to recharge a set with ancient energy.

Even if you make it eat more charges, ancient energy wont become useful because there's already so much of it ingame. It will continue to be useless that way regards to getting it as a drop.

I don't understand why the non corrupt items are degradable, aren't just the corrupt items that are supposed to be degradable?

Quote from: Drugs on January 22, 2016, 05:21:47 pm

Quote from: Thomy on January 22, 2016, 05:14:34 pm

That's the exact reason why a PK shop cannot exist without some restrictions in the wilderness. A PK shop could work if you were to kill assigned targets in the wilderness. But as long as we have about 30 players in the wilderness, that target system isn't going to work out.

On-topic: Ancient energy appears not to be popular. Whenever you die in an ancient armour set, you drop less ancient energy than the actual amount of charges you have, so in theory it shouldn't be worthless.

Its worthless because its a pvp set, it's used to pk and one does not simply use one set long enough for need to recharge because he either dies or it simply doesn't need recharging.
Amongst pkers where pvp sets are commonly used the most, there is no need to recharge a set with ancient energy.

Even if you make it eat more charges, ancient energy wont become useful because there's already so much of it ingame. It will continue to be useless that way regards to getting it as a drop.

I don't understand why the non corrupt items are degradable, aren't just the corrupt items that are supposed to be degradable?

If you refer to how it works in rs; no. In rs the normal sets last for 1 hour in combat. The corrupt sets for 15 minutes of equip time (it would even "degrade" when not in combat).