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Offline Deandam7

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Re: Religion
« Reply #210 on: September 08, 2015, 07:53:28 pm »
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.

No I mean other than a book, how can you prove that if someone becomes a muslim they go straight to heaven?

You expect me to believe this from some words written down in your religious book?

If I'm going to start believing fairy tales(like the one you're trying to spit out because of some words in a book), then I guess shrek and donkey really are best friends.
Does this mean harry potter is legitimate proof of the existence of magic? Because if that's so, i'm going to hogwarts.

Only an idiot would think hogwarts is fake. \:kappa:/
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Re: Religion
« Reply #211 on: September 09, 2015, 12:50:52 pm »
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.
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"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Qur'an 2:191
"Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood." Qur'an 9:123
"When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them." Qur'an 9:5
"Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable." Qur'an 3:85
"The Jews and the Christians are perverts fight them."... Qur'an 9:30
"Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Qur'an 5:33
"Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water melt their skin and bellies." Qur'an 22:19
"The unbelievers are silly, urge the Muslims to fight them." Qur'an 8:65
"Muslims must not take the infidels as friends." Qur'an 3:28
"Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an." Qur'an 8:12
"Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels." Qur'an 8:60

Source: http://quran.com
So, you are saying I should believe in such things to go to heaven? Hell is the place for me then...

another thing that is quite amusing is that, true the Quran does have there verses, but it also has verses contradicting the exact things you just quoted, sounds like God couldn't make up his mind back then
“He who has a why to live for can bear almost any how.”
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Re: Religion
« Reply #212 on: September 10, 2015, 03:08:35 pm »
ok guys..
rather than proving if god exists then try to prove that he doesn't exist
most replyes be like: death all around the world etc... but no
can you imagine yourself in grave like whats happening there whats happeing to you, ofc you cant find a correct answer
since its beyond our imagination, us humans are so limited with thinking
thats what i have to say for now

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Re: Religion
« Reply #213 on: September 11, 2015, 08:36:18 pm »
Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

I'm pretty sure you do believe that temperature is real?
Even though you can't see it but you still believe there's temperature
You do believe that coldness is real? and you still can't see it but it's real

It's the same thing about god, If you're closer to him you will feel that he's real but if you far away from him you won't feel anything, same as temperature and coldness.


You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.

No I mean other than a book, how can you prove that if someone becomes a muslim they go straight to heaven?

You expect me to believe this from some words written down in your religious book?

If I'm going to start believing fairy tales(like the one you're trying to spit out because of some words in a book), then I guess shrek and donkey really are best friends.

There's no more legitimate evidence more then a bible (the Quran).
Start reading.

Moreover it's not a fairy tales, Over billion people in this world believe in the quran for a reason so i'm pretty sure there's something you still don't know about it until you figure it out about this bible so don't hesitate just read it as another book, Trust me it won't hurt you.
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Re: Religion
« Reply #214 on: September 11, 2015, 08:47:47 pm »
proving god is real isn't a problem

Then fucking ''prove'' it. You're just another delusional fool

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Re: Religion
« Reply #215 on: September 11, 2015, 09:04:25 pm »
proving god is real isn't a problem

Then fucking ''prove'' it. You're just another delusional fool

Ok, be respectful first, it's not a fight topic as you think, and as i said it will take long to do that and as i said i won't do that, please read the fully post next time, Mr.spammer.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #216 on: September 11, 2015, 10:37:11 pm »
proving god is real isn't a problem

Then fucking ''prove'' it. You're just another delusional fool

Ok, be respectful first, it's not a fight topic as you think, and as i said it will take long to do that and as i said i won't do that, please read the fully post next time, Mr.spammer.

''Mr. Spammer''

> posts into a debate topic unwilling to debate
> calls others spammers
> mfw

It's the same thing about god, If you're closer to him you will feel that he's real but if you far away from him you won't feel anything, same as temperature and coldness.

How does one 'feel' god? Temperature can also be measured, and it affects how physical substance behaves (water starts boiling in high temperature, for example). How do you measure god?

There's no more legitimate evidence more then a bible (the Quran).
Start reading.

The same exact argument of yours would prove cartoon characters to be real as well. That makes no sense, and it has been mentioned at least dozen times on this thread already. Can you please come up with something ORIGINAL next time?

What's the difference between Barney, the drunk fat dude in Simpsons, and your precious god?

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Re: Religion
« Reply #217 on: September 11, 2015, 10:58:14 pm »
What's the difference between Barney, the drunk fat dude in Simpsons, and your precious god?
non of them are real :kappa:

reward plz
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Offline Knight Night

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Re: Religion
« Reply #218 on: September 12, 2015, 10:03:44 am »
proving god is real isn't a problem

Then fucking ''prove'' it. You're just another delusional fool

Ok, be respectful first, it's not a fight topic as you think, and as i said it will take long to do that and as i said i won't do that, please read the fully post next time, Mr.spammer.

''Mr. Spammer''

> posts into a debate topic unwilling to debate
> calls others spammers
> mfw

It's the same thing about god, If you're closer to him you will feel that he's real but if you far away from him you won't feel anything, same as temperature and coldness.

How does one 'feel' god? Temperature can also be measured, and it affects how physical substance behaves (water starts boiling in high temperature, for example). How do you measure god?

There's no more legitimate evidence more then a bible (the Quran).
Start reading.

The same exact argument of yours would prove cartoon characters to be real as well. That makes no sense, and it has been mentioned at least dozen times on this thread already. Can you please come up with something ORIGINAL next time?

What's the difference between Barney, the drunk fat dude in Simpsons, and your precious god?


Before i start answering your questions, Lets keep it professional, respect me and i'll respect you, same thing goes if i believe in something at least respect me for what i believe and i'll respect you for what you believe too, I'll ask you nicely I do believe in god and i think it's something big in my opinion at least so do not compare a carton for a GOD.
I hope you understand me so we answer each other in a good way.

The answer for you questions:
1- How do you measure god?
You already know the answer that we can't measure god, If we could you wouldn't ask this question.
GOD is not something you can measure just imagine for a sec what i say is right, He created this universe, and he created us, So for a GOD who created us (without power) to measure him a powerful thing that created us? It's something impossible
I hope you understand what i said, It's like measure something that created you but you don't have the power to do that, So it's impossible for us to measure something who created us, Doesn't that make any sense to you, I'm saying that if you could imagine for just a sec that he created all this we living in




The same exact argument of yours would prove cartoon characters to be real as well. That makes no sense, and it has been mentioned at least dozen times on this thread already. Can you please come up with something ORIGINAL next time?

Well carton as you know writing by normal people and if you search for who created them, You will find his name,
The quran writing by God, not by peoples.
What can you call something that writing in it, what the future holds? Magic? we all knows that magic is unreal, The quran has proven a lot of things in this word and i can tell you what has been proven but i'm not going to give links i'll mention what the quran proven for this word what the future hold for us and you can just google it, I'll give you few examples:
1- Did you know that ants created from glasses and it contains 94% of there body? The quran proved that.
2- Did you know that The September 11 attacks that happened in the US that before it happen it was mentioned in the quran " when it going to happen, which street, which date, Another thing that the quran proved

I can give you a lot of examples, That what came up to my mind now.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #219 on: September 12, 2015, 10:41:10 am »
An atheist once asked a believer:

atheist: how will you feel if you die and find out that heaven is not real.
believer: not worse than your feeling when you die and find out that heaven is real.

/thread :kappa:
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Re: Religion
« Reply #220 on: September 12, 2015, 02:39:49 pm »
Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

Ok so i find it quite funny you ask this question. Because it's like talking in metaphors that you can relate anything with.

As Nany previously said, religions have existed in various forms for many thousand years.
The ancient greek gods and so on. If you look at how religion(s) have curved past decades.
You will see more and more people that drops out off religion and don't believe in it.
I mean what the fuck do you think all the refugees from Syria think right now? You think God has a purpose with all this?
You think all the homeless people are gifted by god until they die all alone out there? Tell me all off this please, because i don't understand.
Where i live, i have noticed people stop saying god bless when you give them money. Same persons that used to say god bless years back.

You can't prove why God exist, but you can prove why the temprature is how it is.
and i think that ends for me for now.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #221 on: September 12, 2015, 08:57:01 pm »
Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

Ok so i find it quite funny you ask this question. Because it's like talking in metaphors that you can relate anything with.

As Nany previously said, religions have existed in various forms for many thousand years.
The ancient greek gods and so on. If you look at how religion(s) have curved past decades.
You will see more and more people that drops out off religion and don't believe in it.
I mean what the fuck do you think all the refugees from Syria think right now? You think God has a purpose with all this?
You think all the homeless people are gifted by god until they die all alone out there? Tell me all off this please, because i don't understand.
Where i live, i have noticed people stop saying god bless when you give them money. Same persons that used to say god bless years back.

You can't prove why God exist, but you can prove why the temprature is how it is.
and i think that ends for me for now.

I can answer your first question by few words, Don't wait anything from God if you doesn't give him what he asked you to do, Like praying etc.
So the main point here is, So you living your life and waiting for something but you can't give something in return what i mean here, Don't wait until something bad happens for you and ask for God help start doing what he asked you to do, then when the bad things comes to you, so he will help you as you did what he wanted you to do, When shit happens to people they ask for God help, and after that they tell there selfs "He didn't help me" Ye he won't, Because you want him and his help when bad things happens only?
I can tell you that God helped me a lot when i needed him at least in my life, because i pray for him, and when i ask for help i find it. It's my personal experience and I'm not telling any fake stories here.

Your second question is the same as above, Start doing what he asked you to do, so when you need him he will help you, don't wait until bad things happens.

About hearing others says god bless, it doesn't explain that god doesn't exists.
I'd so that where you live people are faithless, And if you do something good it will benefit you not others.

You're the one who said " i don't believe in anything i can't see, You can't see the temperature so how do you believe it is real?
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Re: Religion
« Reply #222 on: September 12, 2015, 09:37:23 pm »
2 things:
Knight well said, In shaa Allah we meet in heaven.
Second; theres about 1.3b muslims on the planet. If we were terrorists, you would have all been dead right now.

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Re: Religion
« Reply #223 on: September 12, 2015, 09:52:06 pm »
you would have all been dead right now.

Not true at the slightest. Most Islam countries lack in actual military strength compared to USA, China and Russia for example.

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« Reply #224 on: September 12, 2015, 10:34:34 pm »
you would have all been dead right now.

Not true at the slightest. Most Islam countries lack in actual military strength compared to USA, China and Russia for example.
Uhm.. I dont know much about that. But I know that some countries such as Pakistan and Turkey have very strong militarys and nuclear bombs.
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