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Title: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Thomy on June 26, 2016, 03:43:51 pm
Hello everybody,

I've got quite a few things ready, so please take your time and read through them. Some updates might be of great interest for you!

Ironman mode
Many people have continuously suggested the famous ironman mode. You're now able to make yourself an ironman account on tutorial island. The quest guide (last npc to visit) will offer you the option to become an ironman account. With this update, I've also reworked parts of the Hiscores (https://emps-world.net/hiscores). The page's layout was updated and an option was added to view ironman accounts only. Ironman accounts cannot get any items from player interactions, they have to get everything themselves (with the exception of membership tickets).
Moreover, ironman accounts have a special icon (https://emps-world.net/data/cache/Sprites/crowns/ironman_chat_badge.png) in front of their name to show off their efforts.
(https://emps-world.net/img/updates/ironman.17361.jpg)

Protection Prayers
The way protection prayers used to work was confusing and I also don't wish to explain it. This update overhauls protection prayers. When fighting an enemy with a protection prayer, your maximum hit is reduced:With this update we have a fair and easy to understand protection prayer system, the maximum damage is simply reduced. Monsters that cannot hit more than 25 will ALWAYS hit 0 with an activated protection prayer. This means that protection prayers give you full protection from weak monsters.

In-game fixes / tweaks:
In other news
I'll now start working on the next huge update, which is going to be a new dungeon with a new boss. I'll most likely combine this with a quest series that continuously gives you more access to the area. I'm not 100% sure on the outcome though, just letting you guys know what I've got in mind. :D

All the best,
Thomy
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Just Humen on July 04, 2016, 08:33:55 am
DAS DA GOOD STUFF KEEP IT UP THOMY HAVE ALL OF OUR SPIRITUAL ENERGY
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: King125 on July 04, 2016, 08:53:30 am
So you can't just bring a bunch of prayer potions to, say abby demons, but food aswell because of the protection prayer changes?
Ironman mode is a great addition, might create an account later.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Thomy on July 04, 2016, 08:59:20 am
So you can't just bring a bunch of prayer potions to, say abby demons, but food aswell because of the protection prayer changes?
Ironman mode is a great addition, might create an account later.

That's true and could be a flaw in the system, I'll have a look at it, thank you!
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Martin on July 04, 2016, 09:05:32 am
Woah didn't expect you to get it ready so fast :)
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Sqkuid Ward on July 04, 2016, 09:08:08 am
Noice! Thanks for the update, Thomy. :)
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Attacker35 on July 04, 2016, 09:23:00 am
Amazing work, you got it done so fast. Stoked on the next one, thanks!
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Zudikas95187 on July 04, 2016, 09:52:53 am
exciting...
thanks
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Jandar on July 04, 2016, 10:02:56 am
Ironman mode!!!! Gonna love it.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: X O L A F X on July 04, 2016, 10:17:13 am
Great update! Im for sure gonna make an ironman :D
Quick question though, how are you going to get member on an ironman? Earlier, the unwritten rules for an ironman said that you can buy them from other players, but what now?

Exited to see what's coming up next!
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Thomy on July 04, 2016, 10:38:45 am
So you can't just bring a bunch of prayer potions to, say abby demons, but food aswell because of the protection prayer changes?
Ironman mode is a great addition, might create an account later.

That's true and could be a flaw in the system, I'll have a look at it, thank you!

Updated this 'issue': Monsters that cannot hit more than 25 will ALWAYS hit 0 with an activated protection prayer. This means that protection prayers give you full protection from weak monsters.

This was also used by the old protection prayer mechanic.


Great update! Im for sure gonna make an ironman :D
Quick question though, how are you going to get member on an ironman? Earlier, the unwritten rules for an ironman said that you can buy them from other players, but what now?

Exited to see what's coming up next!

You're able to trade member tickets and can buy them on the Grand Exchange.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: X O L A F X on July 04, 2016, 10:46:57 am
Great update! Im for sure gonna make an ironman :D
Quick question though, how are you going to get member on an ironman? Earlier, the unwritten rules for an ironman said that you can buy them from other players, but what now?

Exited to see what's coming up next!

You're able to trade member tickets and can buy them on the Grand Exchange.
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Alright, that's great!
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Themarfish on July 04, 2016, 10:59:44 am
love you thomy been waiting for this :D
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Helpmeplease on July 04, 2016, 11:32:35 am
Anyway easy to make an Ironman Mode. Great Updates Thomy...  8)

Also, Do ironman Gets rank on forums That would be nice.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Icedrags on July 04, 2016, 11:57:48 am
oii nice, finally something interesting!
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Sharkx on July 04, 2016, 12:08:18 pm
time to play again
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Lars on July 04, 2016, 01:04:59 pm
"Vesta's spear special now works correctly again."

What do you mean by this?
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Mary on July 04, 2016, 01:12:18 pm
Forum ironman icon likely not coming since we don't do ingame rank showoff unless it matters for the forum powers you have (staff etc)
We dont have donator ranks or maxed account ranks either.

"Vesta's spear special now works correctly again."

What do you mean by this?
the 'hitdelay'display used by weapons that have multiple hits in their special attack was updated (this update is not noticeable for players so it wasnt in the notes). I fixed that so it shows the hit correctly again. It's a different issue than the unable to KO issue before. It only affected pvm since special attacks are individually coded for pvm and pvp combat and vesta spec for pvm was simply forgotten
Bug report: https://emps-world.net/forum/index.php?topic=17391.0
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Il Skil1z Il on July 04, 2016, 01:30:20 pm
https://emps-world.net/forum/index.php?topic=17396.0

no? k den
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Someone12116 on July 04, 2016, 03:19:23 pm
Protection Prayers
The way protection prayers used to work was confusing and I also don't wish to explain it. This update overhauls protection prayers. When fighting an enemy with a protection prayer, your maximum hit is reduced:
  • You get 40% less damage from players with an activated protection prayer.
  • You get 60% less damage from monsters with an activated protection prayer.

Dunno why but protection prayers seem to do absolutely nothing against bosses now...
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Try Again Fo on July 04, 2016, 03:26:08 pm
Not big fan of the iron man mode.
But shouldn't you start with runecrafting first?
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Gorz on July 04, 2016, 03:52:10 pm
When will we be getting the Minigame update that was pitched? Like, out of all the time I've been on Emps I've not even been in a minigame. It feels kinda sad.

I said before that I think we should get a rotating Minigame every week that gives out double or even quad tickets for that game. It'd get people to play the minigames and also have a reason for minigames rewards to even exsist.

The only things I ever see from Minigames are Void things and 99% of the time those are bought on GE now and not worked for.

Idk though, just a minigames lover wanting some love for minigames.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Blade Fiery on July 04, 2016, 04:02:20 pm
Very nice update ! Alot players already playing :). I hope you will update it soon ;).
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Emps Loover on July 04, 2016, 04:15:34 pm
Wup, new boss soon :o. That sounds like music in my ears!
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Eddie1408 on July 04, 2016, 06:07:04 pm
I hope ironmans got membership for free... otherwise there is no way to unlock any of the interesting game content.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Sqkuid Ward on July 04, 2016, 06:08:51 pm
I hope ironmans got membership for free... otherwise there is no way to unlock any of the interesting game content.
They're allowed to obtain member tickets.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Kaarel 123 on July 04, 2016, 06:14:39 pm
Great updates, thanks!
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Eddie1408 on July 04, 2016, 06:28:51 pm
I hope ironmans got membership for free... otherwise there is no way to unlock any of the interesting game content.
They're allowed to obtain member tickets.

do you mean to buy from ge or by donating?
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Jp on July 04, 2016, 06:29:42 pm
I hope ironmans got membership for free... otherwise there is no way to unlock any of the interesting game content.
They're allowed to obtain member tickets.

do you mean to buy from ge or by donating?
Both and you can obtain them from other players too.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Sqkuid Ward on July 04, 2016, 06:29:50 pm
I hope ironmans got membership for free... otherwise there is no way to unlock any of the interesting game content.
They're allowed to obtain member tickets.

do you mean to buy from ge or by donating?
You can do both.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Ironmandommy on July 04, 2016, 07:31:06 pm
Great update! I really love it. But you should start working on runecrafting skill. :(
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Thomy on July 04, 2016, 09:01:21 pm
Protection Prayers
The way protection prayers used to work was confusing and I also don't wish to explain it. This update overhauls protection prayers. When fighting an enemy with a protection prayer, your maximum hit is reduced:
  • You get 40% less damage from players with an activated protection prayer.
  • You get 60% less damage from monsters with an activated protection prayer.

Dunno why but protection prayers seem to do absolutely nothing against bosses now...

They reduce 60% of their maximum hit. Assuming that bosses can hit 60, they'll now deal a maximum hit of 24. The protection system before also blocked a percentage of all hits. We may need to adjust this a little bit, because it may be too little for strong bosses. Which bosses have you been fighting?
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Ironman Tim on July 04, 2016, 11:14:29 pm
U FOKIN WOT
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Someone12116 on July 06, 2016, 05:47:04 pm
Protection Prayers
The way protection prayers used to work was confusing and I also don't wish to explain it. This update overhauls protection prayers. When fighting an enemy with a protection prayer, your maximum hit is reduced:
  • You get 40% less damage from players with an activated protection prayer.
  • You get 60% less damage from monsters with an activated protection prayer.

Dunno why but protection prayers seem to do absolutely nothing against bosses now...

They reduce 60% of their maximum hit. Assuming that bosses can hit 60, they'll now deal a maximum hit of 24. The protection system before also blocked a percentage of all hits. We may need to adjust this a little bit, because it may be too little for strong bosses. Which bosses have you been fighting?

Corp seems to hit a crap load of more than before.

Also I would like to address Barrows: Verac's special ability is to hit through prayer. That, in my opinion, should suggest that no-one else of the 6 brother should be able to do so. Currentl Dharok actually hits higher than verac through prayer.

Same with GWD. You're constantly taking damage from all 3 sources. If you cannot even fully protect yourself from even a single style, it's pointless.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: 2 Sexy For U on July 06, 2016, 07:32:31 pm
Was scrolling down the comments waiting for your comment, but hey? You can start a new ironman account and play with me when i come home ;)
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Bertie on July 07, 2016, 03:08:53 pm
they shud make vestalongsword and statiuswarhammer like the strenght vesta spear has now its best update they ever made!    AND DONT NERF VESTA SPEAR!!!!!
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Mary on July 07, 2016, 03:12:42 pm
they shud make vestalongsword and statiuswarhammer like the strenght vesta spear has now its best update they ever made!    AND DONT NERF VESTA SPEAR!!!!!
already nerfed for next update, it should not be this powerful it was an unintended buff
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Someone12116 on July 07, 2016, 05:09:48 pm
they shud make vestalongsword and statiuswarhammer like the strenght vesta spear has now its best update they ever made!    AND DONT NERF VESTA SPEAR!!!!!
already nerfed for next update, it should not be this powerful it was an unintended buff

When weapons are buffed/nerfed could we please be informed about the changes so we can prevent over nerfing/buffing them and then we have to wait another month for an update.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Mary on July 07, 2016, 08:37:58 pm
they shud make vestalongsword and statiuswarhammer like the strenght vesta spear has now its best update they ever made!    AND DONT NERF VESTA SPEAR!!!!!
already nerfed for next update, it should not be this powerful it was an unintended buff

When weapons are buffed/nerfed could we please be informed about the changes so we can prevent over nerfing/buffing them and then we have to wait another month for an update.
I described the 'buff' and also described the incoming nerf in multiple topics/posts so it might be hard to overview but here they are:

  • You can now KO players and monsters with vesta spear specials (before it would only do 90% of your hit, and since Emps does not use overkill you were never able to kill something with the special)

Since vesta spear special did only 90% of the hit, the maxhit is effectively 11% more than it was before. Stats will be adjusted accordingly soon.
and with this i mean the special strength (and thus the maxhit), not the stats or the normal attack of the weapon itself*




By fixing the weapon from 90% of the hit to 100% hit, I didn't realize that would ofcourse buff it.
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Bigdicks on July 11, 2016, 02:44:37 pm
Loving Ironman mode!!
Title: Re: Updates July 4th - Ironman Mode
Post by: Iron Bart on July 12, 2016, 07:10:36 pm
Very much awesome