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Title: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Thomy on December 27, 2016, 01:14:19 pm
Hey guys,

A happy new year! :) I'm changing a few things with this update, so please take your time and read through them.

God Wars Dungeon
I'd like to keep it simple. The GWD is just too easy. I didn't want to make the monsters stronger, because it's not really funny if they are just going to hit you harder or can take more damage. I'm satisfied with their current combat power and don't wish to change that. So, I've thought of special mechanics that will make the fight more interesting and will require you to pay more attention to the actual fight. On top of that, the drops have also been buffed. The amount of resource drops you get is larger now and in noted form.(https://emps-world.net/img/updates/gwd_v2.18628.jpg)

Grand Exchange Sets
You can now buy/sell item sets on the Grand Exchange. Hovering over the set tells you which items it includes. Every GE clerk allows the exchange of item sets.
(https://emps-world.net/img/updates_no_preview/ge_sets.jpg)

Particles
The system isn't yet 100% finished, but I can already show-off some pretty cool graphics! All elemental weapons have received particles. If you don't like them, they can be disable at the game settings.
(https://emps-world.net/img/updates_no_preview/particles_v2.jpg)
How do you like the system? What could be done to improve it? Where else would particles be cool?

Changes:
All the best,
Thomy
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Reporter007 on January 07, 2017, 10:05:17 am
Isn't this just going to make GWD more deserted? The item prices are really low so even when the dungeon was easier, noone was really motivated to go there (except ironmen of course)  :-\
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Chazz on January 07, 2017, 10:05:59 am
danks mr domey
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Thomy on January 07, 2017, 10:07:28 am
Isn't this just going to make GWD more deserted? The item prices are really low so even when the dungeon was easier, noone was really motivated to go there (except ironmen of course)  :-\

GWD drops have been improved too.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Reporter007 on January 07, 2017, 10:13:39 am
Isn't this just going to make GWD more deserted? The item prices are really low so even when the dungeon was easier, noone was really motivated to go there (except ironmen of course)  :-\

GWD drops have been improved too.
guud, don't know if just getting more skilling items will bring people back there

Where else would particles be cool?
I did the artwork for you.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Thomy on January 07, 2017, 10:14:12 am
Isn't this just going to make GWD more deserted? The item prices are really low so even when the dungeon was easier, noone was really motivated to go there (except ironmen of course)  :-\

GWD drops have been improved too.
guud

Where else would particles be cool?
I did the artwork for you.

Haha, this looks good! I'll see what I can do. ;)
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Kaarel 123 on January 07, 2017, 10:38:52 am
Amazing update. I'm especially glad to see the particle system.

A few examples where particles could be used: fire cape, lava, water, fishing spot, firemaking (smoke and sparks of fire)
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Iron Corne on January 07, 2017, 10:43:30 am
I like the new look of those elemental weapons, nicely done thomy :)
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Jandar on January 07, 2017, 11:21:01 am
Awesome Work Thomy. Love the armors boxes, it saves a lot of bank space.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Bluestorm on January 07, 2017, 11:39:56 am
Good job Thomer.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Rocklal on January 07, 2017, 11:58:56 am
slowly but surely, I like this.
hopefully this will make gwd more lively. thanks thomy
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Emps Loover on January 07, 2017, 11:59:30 am
Awesome updates, thanks !

EDIT : Could you maybe add (elite) void set as well to the GE sets, or is that impossible?
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Magecrune on January 07, 2017, 12:28:20 pm
Can't wait what else you have planned for particles!

Could you maybe add (elite) void set as well to the GE sets, or is that impossible?
Void sets won't be added. Way too many combinations etc, it would just create confusion. We will see more sets in the future though ;)
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Someone12116 on January 07, 2017, 01:02:06 pm
I'd like to keep it simple. The GWD is just too easy

Oh so that's the reason why everyone had to use magic go get more than 1 kill per trip pre-update, got it! RIP everyone without maxed gear trying to pick up PvMing now.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Saif Nawaf on January 07, 2017, 01:24:24 pm
I think you've done a great job by adding GE set.
like the idea of the buffs with having better drops.
thanks for your effort  :)
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Il Skill L on January 07, 2017, 02:13:37 pm
I'd like to keep it simple. The GWD is just too easy
RIP everyone without maxed gear trying to pick up PvMing now.
im not really sure whether GWD should be the place where to "pick up" PvMing. It should be meant for a bit more advanced players imo.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Someone12116 on January 07, 2017, 02:41:34 pm
I'd like to keep it simple. The GWD is just too easy
RIP everyone without maxed gear trying to pick up PvMing now.
im not really sure whether GWD should be the place where to "pick up" PvMing. It should be meant for a bit more advanced players imo.

None of the drops are best-in-slot equipment except the gloves. If you ask me, GWD is hardly even worth doing because most of the drops are garbage and they won't reach higher prices.

If GWD is supposed to be the hardest possible PvM content out there, then make the drops look like it's worth doing it. Getting a single rune platebody 90% of the time isn't really motivating.

This is what high level boss JUNK drops look like in RS: https://i.gyazo.com/4c21ab613811107a11f0d503163a1280.png
(^ would also like to point out that those drops come from a solo boss)
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Papa Troq on January 07, 2017, 10:40:02 pm
Thank's for the great updates thomy ;)
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Rocklal on January 08, 2017, 11:05:14 am
I'd like to keep it simple. The GWD is just too easy
RIP everyone without maxed gear trying to pick up PvMing now.
im not really sure whether GWD should be the place where to "pick up" PvMing. It should be meant for a bit more advanced players imo.

None of the drops are best-in-slot equipment except the gloves. If you ask me, GWD is hardly even worth doing because most of the drops are garbage and they won't reach higher prices.

If GWD is supposed to be the hardest possible PvM content out there, then make the drops look like it's worth doing it. Getting a single rune platebody 90% of the time isn't really motivating.

This is what high level boss JUNK drops look like in RS: https://i.gyazo.com/4c21ab613811107a11f0d503163a1280.png
(^ would also like to point out that those drops come from a solo boss)
is that arraxi's drop table or someone's else, anyways I agree on making the droptable more worth it, depending on the new mechanics that is and how hard it is
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Monster333 on January 08, 2017, 11:58:38 am
nice job. thomy :)
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Kingslayer on January 08, 2017, 02:50:31 pm
the update as a whole is great... but i don't think what you did with gwd is the smartest idea out there, we'll wait and see.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Someone12116 on January 08, 2017, 03:10:18 pm
Can't wait what else you have planned for particles!

Could you maybe add (elite) void set as well to the GE sets, or is that impossible?
Void sets won't be added. Way too many combinations etc, it would just create confusion. We will see more sets in the future though ;)

Elite void black, grey and white. Grand total of 3 actual sets. Man, that's like soooo confusing.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Thomy on January 08, 2017, 03:38:56 pm
Can't wait what else you have planned for particles!

Could you maybe add (elite) void set as well to the GE sets, or is that impossible?
Void sets won't be added. Way too many combinations etc, it would just create confusion. We will see more sets in the future though ;)

Elite void black, grey and white. Grand total of 3 actual sets. Man, that's like soooo confusing.

The point of void not being there, is that the helmets actually do count as parts of the sets. Including them in the sets results in us having 12 different void sets (3 helms multiplied by 4 different combinations). Which is indeed... confusing and misleading. Excluding void helmets from void sets would be a solution, but is it really an armour set then?
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Il Skill L on January 08, 2017, 03:53:14 pm
Can't wait what else you have planned for particles!

Could you maybe add (elite) void set as well to the GE sets, or is that impossible?
Void sets won't be added. Way too many combinations etc, it would just create confusion. We will see more sets in the future though ;)

Elite void black, grey and white. Grand total of 3 actual sets. Man, that's like soooo confusing.

The point of void not being there, is that the helmets actually do count as parts of the sets. Including them in the sets results in us having 12 different void sets (3 helms multiplied by 4 different combinations). Which is indeed... confusing and misleading. Excluding void helmets from void sets would be a solution, but is it really an armour set then?
how about having all 3 helms in one set?
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Someone12116 on January 08, 2017, 04:38:24 pm
Can't wait what else you have planned for particles!

Could you maybe add (elite) void set as well to the GE sets, or is that impossible?
Void sets won't be added. Way too many combinations etc, it would just create confusion. We will see more sets in the future though ;)

Elite void black, grey and white. Grand total of 3 actual sets. Man, that's like soooo confusing.

The point of void not being there, is that the helmets actually do count as parts of the sets. Including them in the sets results in us having 12 different void sets (3 helms multiplied by 4 different combinations). Which is indeed... confusing and misleading. Excluding void helmets from void sets would be a solution, but is it really an armour set then?
how about having all 3 helms in one set?

This.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Thomy on January 08, 2017, 04:39:31 pm
Why would you buy all 3 helms when looking for a void set...?
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Someone12116 on January 08, 2017, 04:57:13 pm
Why would you buy all 3 helms when looking for a void set...?

500k-1M extra on the price tag for the helmets is nothing for the best DPS armor set in the game. Hoarders would also be able to bind more items to a single bank slot, which was the real reason in the first place why people wanted the set box things to be added.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Callmedragon on January 09, 2017, 06:37:47 pm
Pretty cool updates. Thanks Thomy.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Hi Fi Wi Fi on January 09, 2017, 07:58:54 pm
well done. G.e Sets update is dope
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Fer96 on January 10, 2017, 11:05:36 pm
 Thomy I think you have to know that those new godwars'  changes are horrible. It was already quite difficult to get good items from them, now is harder than ever and the drop rate is still junk (i killed bandos 8 times and i got coins as drop 7 times and the other item was garbage too), and there is another problem, the best drops from each boss are worth in 25m or less, and you have to spend hours and tons of mantas and potions to kill them. In my opinion if you wanted to become GW in a non habit place you did. Hope you read this and make something about it.
 Sorry for my writting too, is the first time i write and i never considered that i should do this, but the last update made me get mad.
  Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Someone12116 on January 11, 2017, 03:33:46 am
Thomy I think you have to know that those new godwars'  changes are horrible. It was already quite difficult to get good items from them, now is harder than ever and the drop rate is still junk (i killed bandos 8 times and i got coins as drop 7 times and the other item was garbage too), and there is another problem, the best drops from each boss are worth in 25m or less, and you have to spend hours and tons of mantas and potions to kill them. In my opinion if you wanted to become GW in a non habit place you did. Hope you read this and make something about it.
 Sorry for my writting too, is the first time i write and i never considered that i should do this, but the last update made me get mad.
  Have a nice day.

The number 1 problem with you is that you're expecting a drop in 8 kills. If the drop rates were that ''good'' 3-people team would be able to get multiple full inventories of drops in a single day.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Fer96 on January 11, 2017, 03:06:44 pm
I don't care if i get a bandos item in 8 kills or 100 kills (i said 8 times before to give and example, but i killed each boss from gw 5 times at least. All to see those "new drops" and i got cash every time), but if you think that getting 35k coins with 25% as  drop rate each time that you kill a monster lvl 624 is okey, it shows that you don't kill monsters to get cash communly, and if i am wrong, so you aren't thinking about players who are looking for ways to earn cash, i don't think making best's drop-rates "better" is the solution, but thomy have to think that nowadays there aren't lots of players at the game and making bosses harder to kill all to get a bandos hilt worthed in 3M won't make them get more interested in play this game because they won't know what to do to make cash. I had read a post where you guys were talking about this topic and most of the people said that there are lots of way to make cash, but they aren't being sensible. You could say that there are lots of ways to get cash, but it isn't true at all.

 Sorry if i didn't reply at your posted, but i don't really know how to do that hahaha. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Reporter007 on January 11, 2017, 03:36:12 pm
Sorry if i didn't reply at your posted, but i don't really know how to do that hahaha. Have a nice day.
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Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Someone12116 on January 11, 2017, 04:19:38 pm
I don't care if i get a bandos item in 8 kills or 100 kills (i said 8 times before to give and example, but i killed each boss from gw 5 times at least. All to see those "new drops" and i got cash every time), but if you think that getting 35k coins with 25% as  drop rate each time that you kill a monster lvl 624 is okey, it shows that you don't kill monsters to get cash communly, and if i am wrong, so you aren't thinking about players who are looking for ways to earn cash, i don't think making best's drop-rates "better" is the solution, but thomy have to think that nowadays there aren't lots of players at the game and making bosses harder to kill all to get a bandos hilt worthed in 3M won't make them get more interested in play this game because they won't know what to do to make cash. I had read a post where you guys were talking about this topic and most of the people said that there are lots of way to make cash, but they aren't being sensible. You could say that there are lots of ways to get cash, but it isn't true at all.

 Sorry if i didn't reply at your posted, but i don't really know how to do that hahaha. Have a nice day.

25k per drop is enough to pay back your supplies. The rest is pure profit on top of that.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Fer96 on January 11, 2017, 05:42:45 pm
25k per drop is enough to pay back your supplies. The rest is pure profit on top of that.

LOL i am not sure if you usualy kill bosses to get items, the time you spend and the efford you do, but now i can see the way that you think and I am not sure we'll be agree with each other.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Someone12116 on January 11, 2017, 05:50:02 pm
LOL i am not sure if you usualy kill bosses to get items, the time you spend and the efford you do, but now i can see the way that you think and I am not sure we'll be agree with each other.

I've made my bank with purely PvM. It's impossible to lose money doing so. If you disagree with that, you must be pretty damn shit at the game.
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on January 11, 2017, 06:56:10 pm
I dunno about anyone else but honestly I think that if you don't bring high alch with you to bosses these days your brain has several problems
Title: Re: Updates January 7th 2017 - GWD, Item Sets and Particles
Post by: Ashootsh on January 13, 2017, 05:19:09 am
Mhm, Interesting.