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Emps-World => Suggestions & Ideas => Topic started by: For Freedom on December 13, 2017, 09:20:27 pm
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Hello everone!
I've had a talk with couple people, and got some of their opinions, I was trying to figure out reasons and results... so this is what I've got:
1. There is no pkers left to fight with right now.
2. New items burns old ones.
3. Items hard to buy/sell.
4. With every month emps lags much more than before.
Well, let's start searching problems... So, there is no pkers left these days, that's actually true, nowdays you'll rarely find someone who would like to go fight you in wild. According to the answers I've got, main problem is that there is not enough people these days. If we look back in days, there was much more people, who was fighting in wilderness. So what is the reason of why people leaving?
As you saw before, new items pushes old items in to the side, people rather buys item that has better stats, even if difference in prices are very funny.. How do we solve this problem? Simple! We need more players. If there would be more players, there would be more people wearing different items, than keeping multiple amounts of them in bank. Prices would also find their right places. What is wrong with prices right now? Let's just take for example armadyl or bandos boots, they are same hardly obtainable as a bandos chestplate, bandos tasset, armadyl hilt or any other piece of it.. But the prices, just check it.. bandos boots is 1m-3m and the bandos tasset is 25-30m, thats just ridiculous since they are both can be obtained in a same hard way...
At the moment, since there is alot people quitting, we have problem with buying/selling our stuff we got while bossing or any other way we got that. Why is it hard to sell or buy stuff these days? I was thinking about it, and came to answer. There is a lot people quitted with items we would like to buy, there is a alot people quitted who could buy items we sell. Once again, if there would be more people, there would be more listening to one or another item.
Imagine: Let's say right now there is around 70 players online, there is like 2 dragon boots in each account that is online right now, so it is 70 pair of boots that we would like to sell, and who would buy em? Once again, if there would be more people, the items we have multiple amounts in our banks, would be equalize to more accounts which will cause in better marketing in-game. This may also bring more people, who was hoping to sell their stuff but couldn't do it because of shortage of people.
With every month, emps lags more and more with each update, I'm not expert in this, this is something Thomy have to do with it, but because of lags, some of people quitted aswell.. Lost in wilderness battle 1v1, lost while bossing, lost while walking through dangerous monsters and got lagged. I've nothing to say about lags since I don't really understand how everything works at this point. But the main problem we have just saw, it is shortage of people.. I know this is something we all was talked about many times, but I think we actually need voting system. This may look very stupid option, but just listen... One of the most active administrators got quited few days ago (Ravioli). He still has his 15b+ bank that is in oldies, but where do he have to put them in? Who will buy his items, if there is not enough people to buy them.. Same situation happened with our crazy staker Iwonu5xbetr (Jake), he wants to quit, cause there is no players who would afford his items. And, yes! What for would people buy something that they already have? This is also brings us back to a problem solving by voting system, more people=more items bought, marketing would be better than it is right now. How do we used to make money? Ofcourse it is bossing, skilling, but to who will we be selling all this? To a staker that has 50+ of each of those items? Not trying to be rude against everyone of you guys, I've been playing this game over 3 years, and I still enjoy it, I've also been quitted for 13 times if not more, but I still back here. Because this is that game, we all like, but we are loosing inspiration in playing it. Why?
I think we all know the answer what would help to bring old players back, to bring new players in, and keep our game insane as it always used to be!
Let me know your opinions, share with me the thoughts, let's analyze what could we make, to bring bigger online.
Player Moderator and fan of Emps-World.net (http://Emps-World.net)
Alex.
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can u make it not italics can't read it at all
Also for the millionth time, voting won't help, we've tried it before.
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can u make it not italics can't read it at all
Done.
Also for the millionth time, voting won't help, we've tried it before.
If that not helps, we should find any other solution, we are having actually a great community, but after all, we are missing of newbies.
I've met a lot of newbie players, and that's always nice to see them coming to us.
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We are doing fine with our player count, RS Private Servers are already dead, and this one is doing fine compared to others.
1. We get 100 players and nobody's pking. Maybe it's because nobody wants to? Even with 1000 people there's a chance that nobody would PK aswell. Plus, the PVMing is the one that gets updated, not PVP aspects (Well, PVM gets more updates).
2. It's not the people that make those problems, it's the fact that to kill most bosses you need to have expensive stuff like t75 armour and at least t70 weapons. Barrows pieces are not viable anymore. Plus, nobody would go to PK if every rare drop from bossing would be 15m+ since that's better money.
3. There are too many items in the game, so basically if you try and sell something, nobody would buy it off of you (except a few people that actually don't have that item). Same with buying, most of the people only have 1 of each item which means most of them want to hold onto them if they're not short on money. Here's a tip: Stop jewing out and sell your items for lower/buy for higher and be patient.
4. You didn't even said what kind of lag. Is it performance or network lag? If it's network, make sure your IP isn't leaked and play through a VPN since it might be DDOSing if you conveniently disconnected during PVP, but I'm sure nobody would do that for Emps-World's money and it's the problem of your network. If it's performance problems, that most likely means your PC is breaking down.
Why are you even a mod by the way?
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Why are you even a mod by the way?
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I wish you said voting system without wasting 5 mins of my time reading the whole story you wrote,
anyway I agree on having voting system back, been said over a million time yet still no changes.
we've suggested million ideas on how to improve the market a lil bit and how to be a main part of it for a limited time.
Thomy believes that not changing anything to the economy is the best way instead of risking on ruining it all, however the majority of the online players add to that whoever left cus of this reason as well believes that he is wasting his time on trying to kill bandos boss and end with bandos boots that he sells later as you mentioned for 1mil, or he might get lucky and do 2 stakes and win 1mil and save his ass few hours of pvming.
Just listen to what the players want, if they fucking want a high prices then give it to them by being the main part of the economy by your self, yes that includes few possible ways if he ever change his mind about this situation I might discuss it with him.
anyway as I've said over a 1000 times already, his server he does what he wants.
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Afaik only items that are hard to buy that affect pking are dharok sets, no pker would sell their sets because it would just end up on some mercher bank that would hoard them even more for some profit.
I don't get the lag thing I got a prebuilt HP from 2010 with ancient gpu and I don't lag for shit unless the server actually lags for everyone. If you have worse computer than mine then you shouldn't really expect a lag-free experience in 2017 anyways.
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we are trying to make this game absolutely perfect right? ???
because if its not perfect, don't expect people to stay for long :)
i think there should be like an official group of people who work to make the game perfect,
this * discussing in-game problems and sharing our opinions on how to make the game "better"* thing wont help.
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i think there should be like an official group of people who work to make the game perfect
You mean something like.. uhm.. the freaking staff team?
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I like this game just as it is right now, and even my PC with 1 GB ram don't changes my mind, yes I have lags, but this is last thing I think about. You also can ask Skillz Purez, how long it takes when I'm trying to turn on my google chrome haha. Anyways, I agree that this is Thomy's game, this is his sandbox, and he can do anything he wants. I've received couple messages that I've named before, and decided to share them with community and administration.
Anyways as I've said before, I like this game, and all I've said here, was just to make this game even more better.
P.Moderator and Emps-World.Net (http://Emps-World.Net) fan
Alex.
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ok, we get it, you like this game.
you haven't said anything that hasn't been said a million times already.
try to think of something original and please fix your god damn grammar. i had to cipher most of what you have written.
voting could be re-added, it didn't do any harm while it was in the game. I have no idea why it even got removed.
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voting could be re-added, it didn't do any harm while it was in the game. I have no idea why it even got removed.
There's no interest in RSPS top lists, we would be trading players with other RSPS and we would very likely lose more players to other servers than we would gain. Getting a sponsored spot on a top list might help us a bit as that wouldn't require us to advertise those top lists to our players but that's probably not worth the money.
We need a better strategy for non-paid advertisements, I personally think that a referral system would be a nice start.
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voting could be re-added, it didn't do any harm while it was in the game. I have no idea why it even got removed.
There's no interest in RSPS top lists, we would be trading players with other RSPS and we would very likely lose more players to other servers than we would gain. Getting a sponsored spot on a top list might help us a bit as that wouldn't require us to advertise those top lists to our players but that's probably not worth the money.
We need a better strategy for non-paid advertisements, I personally think that a referral system would be a nice start.
I beg you just stop, its not like players are fucking dumb
we all know about these websites, every goddamn player already knows about it
if I ever feel bored of the game, I am not waiting for a vote command to check such websites for other rsps.
Yes we need voting system, Yes the rewards should be something worth it
Yes we need to buy the votes.
we might not get any players from voting, but I can assure you we won't lose any as well.
we are trying to gain players for 2 years already without letting others knows about us
Facebook, instagram and so on, such advertising won't get us any players.
No I don't know any numbers about the unique logins we daily have, plus its not something very important to me tbh
ok, we get it, you like this game.
you haven't said anything that hasn't been said a million times already.
try to think of something original and please fix your god damn grammar. i had to cipher most of what you have written.
voting could be re-added, it didn't do any harm while it was in the game. I have no idea why it even got removed.
Can you for the love of whoever you believe in stop hating on him and give him a chance ?
His English might not be perfect however no one said you need a perfect English to play a damn game or tell someone how to tele to falador.
Btw, your English is not much better than his, nor your grammar .
^ not hating on you so don't reply to this, however try to show some love for once .
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ok, we get it, you like this game.
you haven't said anything that hasn't been said a million times already.
try to think of something original and please fix your god damn grammar. i had to cipher most of what you have written.
voting could be re-added, it didn't do any harm while it was in the game. I have no idea why it even got removed.
Can you for the love of whoever you believe in stop hating on him and give him a chance ?
His English might not be perfect however no one said you need a perfect English to play a damn game or tell someone how to tele to falador.
Btw, your English is not much better than his, nor your grammar .
^ not hating on you so don't reply to this, however try to show some love for once .
Thank you, I just cannot understand, in the topic where we should suggest our ideas, instead of writing a response, your opinion about an idea, or giving another one to raise the online, he hating my writing skills? If you want to hate me, create a new topic on off-topic section, and say everything you want... Anyways, I'm not waiting any smart reply from him, since I know all he will reply is going to be next hating sentences...
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In my opinion we should help moderators and admins on helping new players,or then just simply promote more ppl to mods.
We cant really affect on getting more players,but we sure as hell can affect on keeping our new players.
ive done alot mining and smithing lately at barabrian village and ive noticed that theres alot new players that are absolutely fucking lost out there and they dont even know how to use clan chat or wiki so they could get help.
id imagine thats a big reason on new players to quit the game when they cant get help.
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Go recruit players. You'll fix none of that with this few players. You cannot have 100 players in the wilderness if there isn't that many even online in total. Also, do they not teach about paragraphing texts in Lithuania...
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In my opinion we should help moderators and admins on helping new players,or then just simply promote more ppl to mods.
We cant really affect on getting more players,but we sure as hell can affect on keeping our new players.
ive done alot mining and smithing lately at barabrian village and ive noticed that theres alot new players that are absolutely fucking lost out there and they dont even know how to use clan chat or wiki so they could get help.
id imagine thats a big reason on new players to quit the game when they cant get help.
A simple advice on what we should focus in this(or any other) suggestion is good start of contributing the whole community itself, you don't even need moderator or higher status to do that much. Regarding new(or old) players, I don't mind helping them myself but when there is full G.E. of half-trolls who usually shoves players in the face their common mistakes instead of working out problems together no wonder players don't seem to get along that well(you can exclude me from that list since I'm already being hated for my own behavior which repeatedly showed my instability of controlling various situations). Doing small but helpful things towards new players, improving and strengthening communication between staff members and normal playerbase is good and all but finding new ways of doing any sort of action is what we need. There was countless topics about voting, referral system and etc. Have we progressed there a lot more than we posted? Guessing not, numbers of players online shows the results.
That is my viewpoint about it. As far as voting system goes, simplify it to three aspects: Why exactly we need it, how beneficial it would be for both newcomers/veterans and ways to enchant it to the point where it couldn't be abused a lot. I support this suggestion because as Daily tasks showed it can be beneficial and abused plus, this let's players to explore new skilling aspects if they haven't done it yet.
Not saying it is universal truth I can be wrong as well. Everyone has their own agenda,
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In my opinion we should help moderators and admins on helping new players,or then just simply promote more ppl to mods.
We cant really affect on getting more players,but we sure as hell can affect on keeping our new players.
ive done alot mining and smithing lately at barabrian village and ive noticed that theres alot new players that are absolutely fucking lost out there and they dont even know how to use clan chat or wiki so they could get help.
id imagine thats a big reason on new players to quit the game when they cant get help.
I actually agree, staff members should definitely be more active around the spawn-point where players have their first experience with the server. Obviously regular players should too, but Barbarian village just looks un-appealing spot to camp at.
I think we have had this home-city discussion before so I'm not going to go into it, but yeah staff members around the area where new players spawn should be a no-brainer.
It would for sure be a + for new players to spawn in a location with staff members, and some players that aren't new themselves.
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In my opinion we should help moderators and admins on helping new players,or then just simply promote more ppl to mods.
We cant really affect on getting more players,but we sure as hell can affect on keeping our new players.
ive done alot mining and smithing lately at barabrian village and ive noticed that theres alot new players that are absolutely fucking lost out there and they dont even know how to use clan chat or wiki so they could get help.
id imagine thats a big reason on new players to quit the game when they cant get help.
I actually agree, staff members should definitely be more active around the spawn-point where players have their first experience with the server. Obviously regular players should too, but Barbarian village just looks un-appealing spot to camp at.
I think we have had this home-city discussion before so I'm not going to go into it, but yeah staff members around the area where new players spawn should be a no-brainer.
It would for sure be a + for new players to spawn in a location with staff members, and some players that aren't new themselves.
I just love newbies and love to play around with them, at the moment, I'am making myself maxed, it will take me like 2 days more, after what I'll be paying attention on spending time with not just newbies, but with old players too.
P.S. I hope to meet more non-toxic newbies :D
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We are doing fine with our player count, RS Private Servers are already dead, and this one is doing fine compared to others.
Quite false actually. Emps-Scape used to be one of the most popular servers back in the day. As of right now I think it's safe to say it's below average.
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These are just some of the examples of the servers out there right now; Note I had to browse quite a lot as I couldn't get the player count from many of them without logging in which I couldn't be arsed to do. These pictures are legit and just taken right now. If you don't believe it, I can give out the names/links although I highly doubt that's allowed around here; would make sense not to be which is why I took just pictures of the counts.
Point being that there are many servers out there with several hundreds of players online; Emps used to be amongst those servers back in the day however as of right now, as I'm writing this reply there are only 24 players online. Now I know that it's night time and hardly anyone is online at this time however I've seen it at its peak as well - a bit over a hundred was the peak in a long time and that was only after the release of Nex and I believe it dropped down again after some time.
I'm not here to bash the server or anything, just trying to convince you people to try some new strategies, new approaches. You'll have to come up with them yourself - it shouldn't be too hard though with all the "competition" out there that you could be mimicing in one way or another. There are actual PI servers (The base that was released back in like '06) that are doing better than Emps at the moment.
In case anyone's wondering why I left - It's simple. The graphics, as much as I appreciate the effort that went into building this client to the state it is, it just throws off for me. I can never get used to these graphics unfortunately, the problem being that it's too different from RSPS in general. I don't get the true RSPS feel when I play Emps (or played.. for a bit some time ago). Should have just stuck to updating server side stuff and kept client the way it is, I'm fairly certain Emps would be at a better place right now.
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I bet it really stings when thomy reads this stuff
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I bet it really stings when thomy reads this stuff
Better stingy truth than sweet lies.
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Osrs came back, people grew up.
Get over it, it’s been told over hundred times.
Plus if you want to actually blame someone its Jagex. They are the reason we lost all out players after the server closed.
Enough with this retarded topic
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Osrs came back, people grew up.
Get over it, it’s been told over hundred times.
Plus if you want to actually blame someone its Jagex. They are the reason we lost all out players after the server closed.
Enough with this retarded topic
Its not a retarded topic, he is suggesting having voting system back which half of the community been asking for a long time already.
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Ameer, it has been suggested and was denied just as chaotics were suggested before and denied and in the end it was implemented into the game.
I get it we need a voting system etc, but doesn't means it has to be suggested over and over and over.
Once is enough. Thomy is aware of the server current situation and he listens to your ideas so just wait and be give him some time.
Just enjoy the current given content.
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Ameer, it has been suggested and was denied just as chaotics were suggested before and denied and in the end it was implemented into the game.
I get it we need a voting system etc, but doesn't means it has to be suggested over and over and over.
Once is enough. Thomy is aware of the server current situation and he listens to your ideas so just wait and be give him some time.
Just enjoy the current given content.
I don't know how it works where you live, but here unless you keep saying whats in your mind over and over again, the boss will be like " ye seems like they got over it there is no need to change anything then " .
people believe that it should be changed back, therefore they will keep trying to do so
eventho Thomy said no to it, however he said no to a lot of other stuff that he changed his mind later on about.
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Ameer, it has been suggested and was denied just as chaotics were suggested before and denied and in the end it was implemented into the game.
I get it we need a voting system etc, but doesn't means it has to be suggested over and over and over.
Once is enough. Thomy is aware of the server current situation and he listens to your ideas so just wait and be give him some time.
Just enjoy the current given content.
I don't know how it works where you live, but here unless you keep saying whats in your mind over and over again, the boss will be like " ye seems like they got over it there is no need to change anything then " .
people believe that it should be changed back, therefore they will keep trying to do so
eventho Thomy said no to it, however he said no to a lot of other stuff that he changed his mind later on about.
and that's why I'm saying just give it some time... Thomy does read your posts and knows the situation about it. Who knows he might be discussing with Martin about this.
OR
He might be working on it as we speak. Just patience is the key