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Title: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Cahit on January 12, 2019, 03:43:36 pm
As the title suggests ...

Introducing the demon defender which requires a combined attack and strength level of 165-170. Since we have demon bosses with a unique tier of demon weapons of all combat styles, this defender would be a cool addition to add. Giving it a special effect would be similar to what we have to spirit shields. However, to give the special effect a unique twist, maybe boost the wielders damage against demon bosses? This effect would of course last for a limited time before being able to activate it again. To give the player a more challenging feeling before having his/her hands on the defender. You would have to collect 3 different parts that are dropped from each demon boss to then later combine and merge into the actual defender.
This process could require a certain crafting level maybe? Or maybe the player has to learn how to make it through the slayer shop? This would introduce a new tab to the slayer shop where the player can exchange his/her slayer points to learn new methods of combining items or other features?

The parts could for example be something like: Demon vine from kal'ger. Demon ____ from Har'lakk. Demon ____ from yk'lagor?

Feel free to discuss your own opinions and share your thoughts  :)
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Nante on January 12, 2019, 03:47:48 pm
sounds cool about the demon parts collecting piece by pice
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Mumm on January 12, 2019, 03:53:27 pm
Make a new boss with demon defender and shield of some sort lul
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: All Gone on January 12, 2019, 03:54:39 pm
Great idea,however this could take lots of time and work from thomy if done the way you suggested :o
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Est Mauler on January 12, 2019, 04:56:07 pm
I like the idea. Getting pieces from each boss and combining them into a defender was first thing that came to my mind before even reading whole thing.
The special is meh imo. It should be something that helps you everywhere or it could be just like other defenders with good str/att bonuses and 0 defence bonuses.
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Cahit on January 12, 2019, 05:11:37 pm
I like the idea. Getting pieces from each boss and combining them into a defender was first thing that came to my mind before even reading whole thing.
The special is meh imo. It should be something that helps you everywhere or it could be just like other defenders with good str/att bonuses and 0 defence bonuses.

Indeed, it should be useful everywhere but it could have an effect where you may benefit from it mostly when using against demon bosses.  ;)
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Ddstaker34 on January 12, 2019, 05:12:37 pm
Interesting idea.First defender to be tradeable? or it will be untradeable like all other defenders?
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Cahit on January 12, 2019, 05:15:22 pm
Great idea,however this could take lots of time and work from thomy if done the way you suggested :o

Of course, everything takes time and Thomy can take all the time he needs to make it if he sees this as a possible upcoming update. It wouldn't necessary have to be exactly as I suggested though what is it you would want to see different?  :)
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Iron 69 on January 12, 2019, 05:25:24 pm
Perhaps the defender could give you flat offensive stats like other defenders do with the cost of 0 defence bonuses and be the best in slot shield for melee dps. Maybe have a side bonus effect to give a small dmg boost against demons and to make it unique in a way? like 5-10% dmg boost against all demon monsters for example.
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Thunder on January 12, 2019, 05:40:14 pm
Interesting idea.First defender to be tradeable? or it will be untradeable like all other defenders?

Making it tradeable would make it less special. What's the point with having a new item introduced to the game if its gonna be worthless due to many being able to buy it and later effects it's price like what happened to for example demon saber. I think the idea of learning the combining method from the new slayer tab is good though.
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Ironman Miku on January 12, 2019, 06:00:21 pm
Really nice idea! I would like to have this item in EW.
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Rotanas on January 12, 2019, 06:18:53 pm
hell yea, i like this idea about demon defender.
Title: Demon defender
Post by: Kurd on January 12, 2019, 10:59:39 pm
This is an absolutely great idea! It would make the demon bosses so much better. I would honestly love this to be introduced.

You have bright and creative mind. I would love for people like you to create more brilliant ideas like this. I am lowkey a fan of yours <3
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Sam on January 13, 2019, 12:43:50 pm
It'd be a decent addition to the game. Your suggestion is well-explained and I support it. :)
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Sonic80 on March 12, 2019, 03:09:33 pm
This amazing  :D
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Drugs on March 12, 2019, 03:41:06 pm
"Giving it a special effect would be similar to what we have to spirit shields. However, to give the special effect a unique twist"

No thanks, why give spirit shield effect to something that's suppose to have more str bonus than the shield?
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Cahit on March 12, 2019, 06:03:12 pm
"Giving it a special effect would be similar to what we have to spirit shields. However, to give the special effect a unique twist"

No thanks, why give spirit shield effect to something that's suppose to have more str bonus than the shield?

It doesn't need to have a special effect but could have a passive effect when used in Pvming. For example a small damage reduction or vice versa, a slightly increased damage when used against demon bosses. That's just one example, I am sure there are other unique twists you can give it.
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Hi Im Ethan on March 12, 2019, 06:49:13 pm
"Giving it a special effect would be similar to what we have to spirit shields. However, to give the special effect a unique twist"

No thanks, why give spirit shield effect to something that's suppose to have more str bonus than the shield?

It doesn't need to have a special effect but could have a passive effect when used in Pvming. For example a small damage reduction or vice versa, a slightly increased damage when used against demon bosses. That's just one example, I am sure there are other unique twists you can give it.
Defenders sacrifice defense bonuses for pure offensive bonuses, they shouldn’t really give any sort of defense IMO as that’s the point of using one over something like an Arcane.

You could base a special ability for it off of the orb perhaps. Something that boosts your strength bonus but maybe decreases your accuracy for a short time, or along those lines if you feel it really needs an ability.
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Cahit on March 12, 2019, 07:15:39 pm
"Giving it a special effect would be similar to what we have to spirit shields. However, to give the special effect a unique twist"

No thanks, why give spirit shield effect to something that's suppose to have more str bonus than the shield?

It doesn't need to have a special effect but could have a passive effect when used in Pvming. For example a small damage reduction or vice versa, a slightly increased damage when used against demon bosses. That's just one example, I am sure there are other unique twists you can give it.
Defenders sacrifice defense bonuses for pure offensive bonuses, they shouldn’t really give any sort of defense IMO as that’s the point of using one over something like an Arcane.

You could base a special ability for it off of the orb perhaps. Something that boosts your strength bonus but maybe decreases your accuracy for a short time, or along those lines if you feel it really needs an ability.
That's possible as well. The main idea afterall is to introduce a new tier defender superior to the dragon defender and it should be somewhat interesting to acquire at the same time. Additionaly, the combining idea could potentially add a new tab to the slayer shop too which i mentioned it's purpose in the topic itself.
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Apoc on March 13, 2019, 07:34:19 pm
I like the idea, however being the best defender it should have a small bonus of some kind(accuracy or str bonus, maybe negative defense stats?) Also should be tradeable and decently hard to get.
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Corne506 on March 13, 2019, 09:36:02 pm
If it can be fit into pking too then i support it, else not
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Cahit on March 13, 2019, 11:19:57 pm
If it can be fit into pking too then i support it, else not
I am sure it would fit, just like the dragon defender but slightly better.
Title: Re: The new defender tier - Demon Defender
Post by: Corne506 on March 14, 2019, 06:15:51 am
If it can be fit into pking too then i support it, else not
I am sure it would fit, just like the dragon defender but slightly better.
Thing is, you lose the dragon defender always upon death, i'd either prefer untradeables to be repairable or the suggested defender to protect over most things