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Emps-World => Suggestions & Ideas => Topic started by: Il Skil1z Il on October 22, 2014, 12:05:31 pm

Title: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Il Skil1z Il on October 22, 2014, 12:05:31 pm
I'm pretty sure this was suggested and discussed before... But I'm gonna say it again,
Make veng for none members once again! I mean why should only members use that ability? Also this shows how low this has becomes that we should donate to be able to do this... or at least get 8M some how, which some of you know is not that easy,
So for the love of everything on this retarded miserable fucking world, bring back veng once again!
Agree/ Disagree and why?
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Mad Str on October 22, 2014, 12:16:12 pm
Yeh i agree pvp is not that fun without vengeance cause low/new players can't afford to be donators while others can so its not kinda fare in the fight ...
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: C4 Nerd on October 22, 2014, 12:25:06 pm
Maybe you even want developers to pay you for playing Emps?

No, because the game needs member features also. Just buy yourself a member ticket, which is really cheap right now (8-10M) and use your vengeance as much as you want for 30 days!

Good things cost money.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Pp on October 22, 2014, 12:38:52 pm
I agree with this one, every pker must have rights to use vengeance, I still have no clue, why they made it only members skill.. :)
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Leo Jr on October 22, 2014, 12:44:43 pm
Disagree, Simply NO, if it's non-memb alot of donators wouldn't donate anymore especially pure pkers just like my pure
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: King125 on October 22, 2014, 03:15:38 pm
The benifits members get for donating are already not that awesome, plus there are often free member weekends. Disagree.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Chris on October 22, 2014, 03:39:08 pm
Wait a second....The Vengeance spell is Members only?

What in the actual fuck is the point of that? That isn't going to do anything but completely kill the wilderness. That was a HUGE factor in why the wilderness was so active on Emps-Scape, so what in Gods' named has possessed our developers to remove it from normal players? Are you trying to kill the wilderness or something?
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Mary on October 22, 2014, 04:07:16 pm
Wait a second....The Vengeance spell is Members only?

What in the actual fuck is the point of that? That isn't going to do anything but completely kill the wilderness. That was a HUGE factor in why the wilderness was so active on Emps-Scape, so what in Gods' named has possessed our developers to remove it from normal players? Are you trying to kill the wilderness or something?
It's been like that since Lunar got introduced, which was quite an old update.
Vengeance usually procs lower hits though, and what's the point of both dying when a guy retaliates a DH hit?
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Chazz on October 22, 2014, 09:13:30 pm
Lol, if you don't like it, lay off pking.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Martin on October 23, 2014, 06:54:40 am
If you have enough money to get 94 mage then i don't see how buying a member ticket is a problem, though i support your suggestion.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Freestuffyay on October 23, 2014, 07:23:28 am
Membership is not that expensive but I agree.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Joshiee on October 23, 2014, 12:30:03 pm
Good things cost money.
I support this quote.

I disagree.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Gmaulerz Xd on October 23, 2014, 12:46:44 pm
Good things cost money.
I support this quote.

I disagree.
Also support that last quote.

Dont really care much ppl aren't pking atm they are just making money to pk...
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: 40thkat on October 25, 2014, 05:51:06 pm
Disagree, veng should stay members. Its only fair you get a slight advantage for paying for it. Not to mention you can easily make the 8-10m back in 3-4hours of membership. If you dislike not bein able to use veng, then just go buy a members ticket and go PvM your cash back.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Nerdrage on October 26, 2014, 04:25:15 pm
Disagreed.

Buy member ring -> unlock Vengeance -> 1 risk fight -> u have ur money back.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Lars on October 27, 2014, 11:30:50 pm
Wait a second....The Vengeance spell is Members only?

What in the actual fuck is the point of that? That isn't going to do anything but completely kill the wilderness. That was a HUGE factor in why the wilderness was so active on Emps-Scape, so what in Gods' named has possessed our developers to remove it from normal players? Are you trying to kill the wilderness or something?
It's been like that since Lunar got introduced, which was quite an old update.
Vengeance usually procs lower hits though, and what's the point of both dying when a guy retaliates a DH hit?
Well that makes no sense at all.

Furthermore, there are many players who only buy member tickets for this sole reason. They have to spend millions on these tickets just to get the most out of their pk experience. They have already spent a lot of time and money on building their account, and now they have to keep doing that just to be able to use the things they worked so hard for. And also not every pker is rich. There are many pures to which 8m (I don't even know the price) is a lot of money. They have to kill dozens of people to regain this money. And what to think of us people who have multiple accounts to pk on. I for example own 7 accounts with 94+ magic, and would like to use vengeance on most of them. As a pker you'll understand that you play on these accounts during the same time period, thus I have to buy 7 tickets just to get the most out of my experience. I also don't see why, as someone stated above, things should be member-only when they are powerful. Ice barrage is arguably the best offensive spell in the game, should this become member-only as well?
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Drugs on October 28, 2014, 12:16:57 am
The fact is we need something to make wilderness active "again". (or active in general)
I don't know if this is it but we need something, so I wouldn't toss away this idea without thinking twice

Don't have a clear opinion yet cause of reasons ..
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Mary on October 28, 2014, 07:41:48 am
You can use vengeance other on one account to veng 'em all
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Lars on October 28, 2014, 11:01:29 am
You can use vengeance other on one account to veng 'em all
Very funny.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Fate on October 29, 2014, 03:38:25 am
I prefer having vengeance restricted to premium members.  However, I simply prefer it; I am not right if I say it's better off this way.

I support the idea of making it available to ALL players for the time being.  We should focus on pleasing the community as best we can right now, and players have been wanting more wilderness activity for ages (since Emps-Scape).  Until we find another way of pleasing pkers, this may be a good fit -- for a limited time, in my opinion.

Keep in mind that we need players to donate in order to keep this server up; having vengeance as Premium only may be too valuable a resource to give up.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on October 31, 2014, 05:51:46 am
Dare i suggest the dreaded members only slayer monsters or maybe, just maybe, a donation ticket could be used to obtain the much-discussed clue scrolls?
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Troq on October 31, 2014, 09:08:25 am
you can either buy some frites for 3,50,- or a member ticket for 3,50,-
you can also just do some skilling for 1 day and you'll also have around 10m to buy one.
its just up to you, stop complaining and start playing.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Il Skil1z Il on October 31, 2014, 12:05:27 pm
The fact is we need something to make wilderness active "again". (or active in general)
I don't know if this is it but we need something, so I wouldn't toss away this idea without thinking twice

Don't have a clear opinion yet cause of reasons ..

Lars is right, I also agree with you on this one^ I mean veng is what made me curious about pking and also about going to pk for the first time, I burned my ass off sitting training magic for this and it all went for nothing, also Wilderness is dying atm, like legit... it's literally dying...
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Mary on October 31, 2014, 01:10:44 pm
Tbh the revenant dungeon quite lives up wildy again, in response on the previous replies.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Magedefender on October 31, 2014, 08:19:52 pm
Blablablabla :D Dont know dont have this problem... + i get member first 2 days if i played, so?! go mining and smith or whatever for the 8m!? Its nothing in this game. blablabla, disagree!! :)
And i think you have main account, if you have pure, so go make money with your main account, and if you are good pker u get easy this money back! :)
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Il Skil1z Il on November 01, 2014, 04:19:37 pm
Blablablabla :D Dont know dont have this problem... + i get member first 2 days if i played, so?! go mining and smith or whatever for the 8m!? Its nothing in this game. blablabla, disagree!! :)
And i think you have main account, if you have pure, so go make money with your main account, and if you are good pker u get easy this money back! :)

That's great.. that's great, well there 70% of those who play the game can't afford that "Easy" 8m, I personally been woodcutting yews and magic trees for about a week just to get a seercull,
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: Joshiee on November 03, 2014, 03:38:17 am
Blablablabla :D Dont know dont have this problem... + i get member first 2 days if i played, so?! go mining and smith or whatever for the 8m!? Its nothing in this game. blablabla, disagree!! :)
And i think you have main account, if you have pure, so go make money with your main account, and if you are good pker u get easy this money back! :)

That's great.. that's great, well there 70% of those who play the game can't afford that "Easy" 8m, I personally been woodcutting yews and magic trees for about a week just to get a seercull,
I strongly suggest you swerve cutting Yews and Magics because they clearly aren't making you money.

I still stand strong on my opinion, despite all the comments. Vengeance is powerful; one of the most wanted spells in Emps, as far as I'm aware. And, as I quoted earlier, good things do come at a cost.

My opinion, however, would be stirred the other way if an alternative was suggested. Perhaps a Vengeance-Ring, Tab or another custom item could be implemented to support the needs of non-members wanting Vengeance. These could last a maximum of 5-10 days and cost as little as 3M. This custom item could be dropped by a high levelled monster (in the wilderness perhaps) but the drop rate must be balanced out so that this custom does not drop in price drastically. Furthermore, Members would not have to go through the process of obtaining one, due to the privileges they get activating their well-earned Member-Rings.
This does need elaborating a little but I'll leave you with this alternative to see what people think.
Title: Re: Taste Vengeance
Post by: 2reapzz on November 03, 2014, 08:05:36 am
Blablablabla :D Dont know dont have this problem... + i get member first 2 days if i played, so?! go mining and smith or whatever for the 8m!? Its nothing in this game. blablabla, disagree!! :)
And i think you have main account, if you have pure, so go make money with your main account, and if you are good pker u get easy this money back! :)

That's great.. that's great, well there 70% of those who play the game can't afford that "Easy" 8m, I personally been woodcutting yews and magic trees for about a week just to get a seercull,
I strongly suggest you swerve cutting Yews and Magics because they clearly aren't making you money.

I still stand strong on my opinion, despite all the comments. Vengeance is powerful; one of the most wanted spells in Emps, as far as I'm aware. And, as I quoted earlier, good things do come at a cost.

My opinion, however, would be stirred the other way if an alternative was suggested. Perhaps a Vengeance-Ring, Tab or another custom item could be implemented to support the needs of non-members wanting Vengeance. These could last a maximum of 5-10 days and cost as little as 3M. This custom item could be dropped by a high levelled monster (in the wilderness perhaps) but the drop rate must be balanced out so that this custom does not drop in price drastically. Furthermore, Members would not have to go through the process of obtaining one, due to the privileges they get activating their well-earned Member-Rings.
This does need elaborating a little but I'll leave you with this alternative to see what people think.
this one, agreed