players loots dont appear to ironmans so i think u can make ironmans loot dont appear to normal players i know its sometimes bugs like ironmans can't pick their own loot.. 
or if ironman die others pick thei loot good that did not happen to me yet

and daganoth kings add to loot rings archer berserk warrior and seers and remove from gargoyles they already have granite moul and gear

Yes, the idea about that regular players couldn't see ironmen dropped/after death items is good. I believe Thomy told, that they shouldn't be seen, so I assume it's bug.

Dont go to wildy with shit u dont want to risk. If you get PKed, the loot should drop to regular accounts. You can still fight back on an ironman and potentially kill your opponent if you dont get the loot.

Dont go to wildy with shit u dont want to risk. If you get PKed, the loot should drop to regular accounts. You can still fight back on an ironman and potentially kill your opponent if you dont get the loot.

He said nothing about getting pked.

He said players' drops aren't visible for ironmen (assuming a player die from monster), therefore it should be the same way around. He doesn't want regular players to pick up his drops when he got ko by pvming.

Op: I think this is bug as Namnori mentioned above.

Reference:
Thomy : "Ironman accounts don't have the ability to trade items with anyone. That includes trying to drop-trade items. "

Yes, I was talking about pvm'ing. I already lost few items due to this, had like one minute to pick my items but someone else was already picking my stuff. Either we need to extend the time, that items wouldn't shown to others or make that they wouldn't see 'em at all. If you die for example at Yk'lagor, you instantly need to run back, if you don't want that others would pick your stuff. After 2 minutes items will be visible to others. So basically you have 2minutes to pick your stuff, not 3.

Yes, I was talking about pvm'ing. I already lost few items due to this, had like one minute to pick my items but someone else was already picking my stuff. Either we need to extend the time, that items wouldn't shown to others or make that they wouldn't see 'em at all. If you die for example at Yk'lagor, you instantly need to run back, if you don't want that others would pick your stuff. After 2 minutes items will be visible to others. So basically you have 2minutes to pick your stuff, not 3.

Changing the timer only for iron man accounts from 2 mins to 3 mins will make it unfair for normal players
if you guys wanna make it fair, then the items should disappear after 2 mins so in this case people won't be able to ' Trade ' using an iron man to main account, and they'll have the same timer as others
Maybe disappear item after item at random every 5 seconds after the first 2 mins.

if you guys wanna make it fair, then the items should disappear after 2 mins so in this case people won't be able to ' Trade ' using an iron man to main account, and they'll have the same timer as others

lol, that's not fair, normal players would still have 3mins to go pick up their loot if he/she solo a monster and die, and 2mins for ironman.


Fix the bug and everyone will be happy, don't let it becomes a feature.

I don't see this being a bug? When an ironman dies the items can be picked up for 2 minutes until the drop becomes global?

I don't see this being a bug? When an ironman dies the items can be picked up for 2 minutes until the drop becomes global?

Well that's contradicting to what you said then :/

"Thomy : "Ironman accounts don't have the ability to trade items with anyone. That includes trying to drop-trade items. "

Quote from: Thomy on June 21, 2018, 06:48:56 pm

I don't see this being a bug? When an ironman dies the items can be picked up for 2 minutes until the drop becomes global?

Well that's contradicting to what you said then :/

"Thomy : "Ironman accounts don't have the ability to trade items with anyone. That includes trying to drop-trade items. "

That means they cannot loot shit other people has dropped. Regular accounts can still loot items dropped by ironmen, once they appear globally. Trading is still impossible.

Quote from: Jandor on June 21, 2018, 07:52:45 pm

Quote from: Thomy on June 21, 2018, 06:48:56 pm

I don't see this being a bug? When an ironman dies the items can be picked up for 2 minutes until the drop becomes global?

Well that's contradicting to what you said then :/

"Thomy : "Ironman accounts don't have the ability to trade items with anyone. That includes trying to drop-trade items. "

That means they cannot loot shit other people has dropped. Regular accounts can still loot items dropped by ironmen, once they appear globally. Trading is still impossible.

Trading is still possible by paying them one of the items they can trade, Member tickets, double xp scrolls
so if Ironman meant to not being able to trade, it also means people shouldn't be able to see the items dropped by them.
however as I said above ( I think I did, no idea ) this also means that there is no point on killing an Ironman account in wildy since its just a risk with no benefit at all for both players, which gives them an advantage while doing skills at wildy,
a possible way to avoid this is by making killing an iron man gives an X amount of pvp points depends on what that dude is using. ----> then we get to another problem that pvp points has no use at all so this system should be fixed.

Quote from: Someone12116 on June 21, 2018, 11:18:21 pm

Quote from: Jandor on June 21, 2018, 07:52:45 pm

Quote from: Thomy on June 21, 2018, 06:48:56 pm

I don't see this being a bug? When an ironman dies the items can be picked up for 2 minutes until the drop becomes global?

Well that's contradicting to what you said then :/

"Thomy : "Ironman accounts don't have the ability to trade items with anyone. That includes trying to drop-trade items. "

That means they cannot loot shit other people has dropped. Regular accounts can still loot items dropped by ironmen, once they appear globally. Trading is still impossible.

Trading is still possible by paying them one of the items they can trade, Member tickets, double xp scrolls
so if Ironman meant to not being able to trade, it also means people shouldn't be able to see the items dropped by them.

And the only way to fix that is to make everyone donate for their member, which I bet minority of the people actually want to see.