Wut about ring of wealth having a small chance to double your drop (twice the same item that is) You'd be extremely lucky to get a rare drop doubled by it then. (maybe 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20 chance on doubling?)

Wut about ring of wealth having a small chance to double your drop (twice the same item that is) You'd be extremely lucky to get a rare drop doubled by it then. (maybe 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20 chance on doubling?)

I believe this would be a really cool addition, but improving drop rates right now in any possible way will just further crash the prices.

Quote from: Range 4 Meee on December 21, 2014, 10:50:11 am

I disagree with this, though I have an alternative;
Instead of having double drop rates, I'd like to see double drops -> which means the NPCs drops 2 items instead of 1.
e.g. The Zamorak boss is possible to drop 2x the same item or ofcourse 2 diffrent items. (you need to be extremely lucky to get 2x a rare drop)

This is not during double experience, this would be a nice little extra after having maintence problems

Correct me if I'm wrong, but let's say this boss has a 1% chance to drop his rare item, one person kills this boss 100 times.
So this person will get the rare item once in 100 kills, with your suggestion this will grant that person that item twice.
With the initial suggestion, the boss now has a 2% chance to drop the item, after 100 kills, this person also received the item twice.

So basically the amount of items entering the economy will remain the same, further pushing prices down. I heavily disagree.

Didn't really look at it in that optic, since I was only looking at the percentage of recieving 2 rare drops in one kill.
1% the first drop is a rare item, but then again 1% of having a second rare item, which will result into a 1% x 1% (=0.01x0.01) = 0.0001 which is equal to 0.01%
This way it would be a nice addition, but I miscalculated it and therefore it would be kinda OP.

But then again, this would be only activated when we recently had maintence problems.
Nowadays we either get free Membership or Double experience as a compensation, but since the weekends still have these extras they aren't anything special anymore.

Quote from: Mary on December 21, 2014, 05:47:11 pm

Wut about ring of wealth having a small chance to double your drop (twice the same item that is) You'd be extremely lucky to get a rare drop doubled by it then. (maybe 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20 chance on doubling?)

I believe this would be a really cool addition, but improving drop rates right now in any possible way will just further crash the prices.

Yeah, it's been rolling around in my mind for a few weeks already, but never bothered to make a topic about adding ring of wealth like this. You'd have to trade off damage by equipping this then, but it is kinda useful

I still think it would be cool to just have the ring have a low chance to increase the drop rate of very rare items from monsters :p
Rare drop tables just make things confusing :p

I still think it would be cool to just have the ring have a low chance to increase the drop rate of very rare items from monsters :p
Rare drop tables just make things confusing :p

That's not what i suggested... That's how the wealth ring works in rs, not how it's gonna work in Emps. It would double every 10th drop or something automatically, without adding some rare drop table.

Increase droprates is hard, as that means the lower value droprates should be decreased simutaneously, which could result in some problems.. And it would take away the randomness luck really.

I know that's not what you suggested, it's just what I thought it should be. :p
I can see how this would create problems though.
What if somebody gets like a double rod drop ._.

What if somebody gets like a double rod drop ._.

Then he gets a double rod drop.

Quote from: Simonyoda3 on December 21, 2014, 05:50:28 pm

Quote from: Mary on December 21, 2014, 05:47:11 pm

Wut about ring of wealth having a small chance to double your drop (twice the same item that is) You'd be extremely lucky to get a rare drop doubled by it then. (maybe 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20 chance on doubling?)

I believe this would be a really cool addition, but improving drop rates right now in any possible way will just further crash the prices.

Yeah, it's been rolling around in my mind for a few weeks already, but never bothered to make a topic about adding ring of wealth like this. You'd have to trade off damage by equipping this then, but it is kinda useful

It would be cool to have a 1/10 or 1/20 chance of double loot in addition to the fact that the ring of wealth crumbles to dust after 10, or maybe even less, uses (uses as in when it procced and actually doubled the loot). This should make the price of dragonstones go up, instead of just everyone using the same ring of wealth over and over again.

Quote from: Mary on December 21, 2014, 07:07:26 pm

Quote from: Simonyoda3 on December 21, 2014, 05:50:28 pm

Quote from: Mary on December 21, 2014, 05:47:11 pm

Wut about ring of wealth having a small chance to double your drop (twice the same item that is) You'd be extremely lucky to get a rare drop doubled by it then. (maybe 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20 chance on doubling?)

I believe this would be a really cool addition, but improving drop rates right now in any possible way will just further crash the prices.

Yeah, it's been rolling around in my mind for a few weeks already, but never bothered to make a topic about adding ring of wealth like this. You'd have to trade off damage by equipping this then, but it is kinda useful

It would be cool to have a 1/10 or 1/20 chance of double loot in addition to the fact that the ring of wealth crumbles to dust after 10, or maybe even less, uses (uses as in when it procced and actually doubled the loot). This should make the price of dragonstones go up, instead of just everyone using the same ring of wealth over and over again.

This would be great actually!

I've suggested this to Thomy about a month or two ago. He replied "Increasing the 'luck' or droprate of something is quite hard to code."
I'm not sure if making a double drop of something is easier to code, my guess is that it should be easier

Quote from: Simonyoda3 on December 21, 2014, 08:00:42 pm

Quote from: Mary on December 21, 2014, 07:07:26 pm

Quote from: Simonyoda3 on December 21, 2014, 05:50:28 pm

Quote from: Mary on December 21, 2014, 05:47:11 pm

Wut about ring of wealth having a small chance to double your drop (twice the same item that is) You'd be extremely lucky to get a rare drop doubled by it then. (maybe 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20 chance on doubling?)

I believe this would be a really cool addition, but improving drop rates right now in any possible way will just further crash the prices.

Yeah, it's been rolling around in my mind for a few weeks already, but never bothered to make a topic about adding ring of wealth like this. You'd have to trade off damage by equipping this then, but it is kinda useful

It would be cool to have a 1/10 or 1/20 chance of double loot in addition to the fact that the ring of wealth crumbles to dust after 10, or maybe even less, uses (uses as in when it procced and actually doubled the loot). This should make the price of dragonstones go up, instead of just everyone using the same ring of wealth over and over again.

This would be great actually!

I've suggested this to Thomy about a month or two ago. He replied "Increasing the 'luck' or droprate of something is quite hard to code."
I'm not sure if making a double drop of something is easier to code, my guess is that it should be easier

Yeah hence i changed it to doubling the drop, which shouldn't be hard to do. And I also was thinking about a limited amount of charges aswell.

Quote from: Range 4 Meee on December 21, 2014, 10:50:11 am

I disagree with this, though I have an alternative;
Instead of having double drop rates, I'd like to see double drops -> which means the NPCs drops 2 items instead of 1.
e.g. The Zamorak boss is possible to drop 2x the same item or ofcourse 2 diffrent items. (you need to be extremely lucky to get 2x a rare drop)

This is not during double experience, this would be a nice little extra after having maintence problems

Correct me if I'm wrong, but let's say this boss has a 1% chance to drop his rare item, one person kills this boss 100 times.
So this person will get the rare item once in 100 kills, with your suggestion this will grant that person that item twice.
With the initial suggestion, the boss now has a 2% chance to drop the item, after 100 kills, this person also received the item twice.

So basically the amount of items entering the economy will remain the same, further pushing prices down. I heavily disagree.

i don't think the number of kills you get will guarantee a drop, it is just that every kill has a 1% chance of rare drop, which means that even if you killed 100 or even 300 you might not get the drop.

Quote from: Range 4 Meee on December 21, 2014, 10:50:11 am

I disagree with this, though I have an alternative;
Instead of having double drop rates, I'd like to see double drops -> which means the NPCs drops 2 items instead of 1.
e.g. The Zamorak boss is possible to drop 2x the same item or ofcourse 2 diffrent items. (you need to be extremely lucky to get 2x a rare drop)

This is not during double experience, this would be a nice little extra after having maintence problems

Correct me if I'm wrong, but let's say this boss has a 1% chance to drop his rare item, one person kills this boss 100 times.
So this person will get the rare item once in 100 kills, with your suggestion this will grant that person that item twice.
With the initial suggestion, the boss now has a 2% chance to drop the item, after 100 kills, this person also received the item twice.

So basically the amount of items entering the economy will remain the same, further pushing prices down. I heavily disagree.

I don't think that you know how maths works. You could do 1000 kills of the said monster and get nothing. Think it this way: every kill has 99% chance of not dropping the item.

Quote from: Simonyoda3 on December 21, 2014, 05:29:15 pm

Quote from: Range 4 Meee on December 21, 2014, 10:50:11 am

I disagree with this, though I have an alternative;
Instead of having double drop rates, I'd like to see double drops -> which means the NPCs drops 2 items instead of 1.
e.g. The Zamorak boss is possible to drop 2x the same item or ofcourse 2 diffrent items. (you need to be extremely lucky to get 2x a rare drop)

This is not during double experience, this would be a nice little extra after having maintence problems

Correct me if I'm wrong, but let's say this boss has a 1% chance to drop his rare item, one person kills this boss 100 times.
So this person will get the rare item once in 100 kills, with your suggestion this will grant that person that item twice.
With the initial suggestion, the boss now has a 2% chance to drop the item, after 100 kills, this person also received the item twice.

So basically the amount of items entering the economy will remain the same, further pushing prices down. I heavily disagree.

i don't think the number of kills you get will guarantee a drop, it is just that every kill has a 1% chance of rare drop, which means that even if you killed 100 or even 300 you might not get the drop.

True, but it can also be the other way round: I got a glory t drop the first KQ kill for example.
It's just a chance of 1 in 100, not a guaranteed drop.

Wut about ring of wealth having a small chance to double your drop (twice the same item that is) You'd be extremely lucky to get a rare drop doubled by it then. (maybe 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 20 chance on doubling?)

Yes! More adamant full helms! Please fix Some drops first before implementing this. Id like to have good drops and not just all Lets say.. Less good ones like addy skirts