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Emps-World => Suggestions & Ideas => Topic started by: Charr on June 07, 2016, 12:45:18 pm

Title: A GE tutorial
Post by: Charr on June 07, 2016, 12:45:18 pm
Months after release, there are still people that don't know about the GE or don't know how it works. I think it would be a great thing to have an npc that could give a proper tutorial on how the GE works.

Opinions?

Edit: I'd also like to bring up adding more GE slots. It might help get more people to put their stuff in if they get more space to do so.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Ironman 506 on June 07, 2016, 03:11:16 pm
Learning how to use GE isn't that hard. in my opinion it would be worthless to create a npc for that. and 8 slots is enough, its the way the GE Always has been.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Charr on June 07, 2016, 03:13:32 pm
Learning how to use GE isn't that hard to learn. in my opinion it would be worthless to create a npc for that
It by no means is. Neither is anything else in the game. I felt it might help those that don't understand how it works. Do you have any possible solution in mind for this?
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Ironman 506 on June 07, 2016, 03:29:21 pm
Learning how to use GE isn't that hard to learn. in my opinion it would be worthless to create a npc for that
It by no means is. Neither is anything else in the game. I felt it might help those that don't understand how it works. Do you have any possible solution in mind for this?

What has to be explaind about using the GE? the GE interface explains it good enough in my opinion
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Just Humen on June 07, 2016, 04:40:00 pm
I agree on the first suggestion.
About the second suggestion, as much as I would love to have extra slots, I think GE was a factor not to be ignored in reducing our player's online time. Since people would just put the items they'd like to buy/sell in the GE and just stay offline until their items are sold/bought, and adding more slots would make this problem even worse.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Charr on June 07, 2016, 04:43:54 pm
Since people would just put the items they'd like to buy/sell in the GE and just stay offline until their items are sold/bought, and adding more slots would make this problem even worse.
Generally, that time they spend online selling things isn't something most people enjoy. I'd say that could be disregarded, especially if the trade on the GE itself is improved due to it.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Deandam7 on June 07, 2016, 07:54:20 pm
The GE is pretty straight forward. My personal opinion is, if you're too dense to figure out how the GE works; you shouldn't be playing RSPS'.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Vindicate on June 07, 2016, 08:32:49 pm
The GE is pretty straight forward. My personal opinion is, if you're too dense to figure out how the GE works; you shouldn't be playing RSPS'.

Then we need to make sure everyone knows we have a working GE, so that they actually use it? It needs some promotion for sure.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Drugs on June 07, 2016, 09:19:47 pm
1)If.you.make.GE.home.location.same.dense.players.wouldnt.find.monsters.to.kill
2)Maybe.new.players.try.to.sell.their.low.level.shit.in.GE.nowadays.instead.of.general.store.and.that.obv.doesnt.work
3)Playercount.has.dropped(summer-exams)
4)Lots.of.players.dont.even.use.GE.because.they.already.have.everything.they.need
5)4.leads.to.nobody.buying.more.items.so.more.players.are.selling

Theres.so.much.do.it.if.you.go.in.details.which.obviously.adds.up.
But.tldr.is.what.Adam.said.

Dense.people.who.dont.know.how.to.use.GE.and.wont.play.enough.to.find.out.on.their.own.will.most.likely.quit.anyways.
GE.is.a.nice.feature.but.when.new.players/dense.noobs.cant.figure.the.game.out.on.their.own.the.well.shit

Took.me.a.year.to.start.understanding.csgo.
The.game.appealed.to.me.and.in.a.year.I.learned.it.all.

You.cant.really.expect.to.keep.players.playing.in.a.long.run.by.explaining.GE(game.in.general).to.them.I.see.it.as.another.hint.that.tells.that.playercount.is.going.down.and.down.
If.players.are.not.interested.in.a.game.and.dont.want.to.learn.simplest.things.then.they.are.not.the.players.I.would.put.my.money.on.playing.after.a.year
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Charr on June 07, 2016, 09:33:19 pm
You.cant.really.expect.to.keep.players.playing.in.a.long.run.by.explaining.GE(game.in.general).to.them.I.see.it.as.another.hint.that.tells.that.playercount.is.going.down.and.down.
If.players.are.not.interested.in.a.game.and.dont.want.to.learn.simplest.things.then.they.are.not.the.players.I.would.put.my.money.on.playing.after.a.year
I am suggesting a tutorial for the GE for the sake of teaching people how to use the GE, that is all there is to it. I do not have any expectations in regard to the playercount with this suggestion. Please do not think all my suggestions are to increase or keep the playercount. That is not their purpose.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Drugs on June 07, 2016, 09:37:46 pm
You.cant.really.expect.to.keep.players.playing.in.a.long.run.by.explaining.GE(game.in.general).to.them.I.see.it.as.another.hint.that.tells.that.playercount.is.going.down.and.down.
If.players.are.not.interested.in.a.game.and.dont.want.to.learn.simplest.things.then.they.are.not.the.players.I.would.put.my.money.on.playing.after.a.year
I am suggesting a tutorial for the GE for the sake of teaching people how to use the GE, that is all there is to it. I do not have any expectations in regard to the playercount with this suggestion. Please do not think all my suggestions are to increase or keep the playercount. That is not their purpose.
And.I.think.that.our.updates.should.include.features.that.should.in.theory.increase.playercount.because.the.way.were.going.theres.not.enough.arabs.to.teach.GE.to.

edit:


and.I.cant.really.nor.can.any.normal.player.that.uses.forums.actually.know.about.people.who."dont.know.how.to.use.GE".because.staff.members.are.ones.annoyed.by.those.people.
But.is.it.seriously.issue.so.bad.that.you.cant.fix.with.linking.arab.some.rs.GE.guide?

Oh.yeah.wait.you.cant.link.thru.ingame.and.same.dense.people.dont.know.the.meaning.behind"go.on.forums.i.send.you.guide.in.pm"
So.how.are.said.people.even.know.about.npc.update.when.they.dont.know.how.to.browse.forums.or.understand.youtube.guides.

If.you.want.a.solid.yes/no.without.any.reasoning.behind.my.yes/no.then.its.a.no.

No.you.dont.need.a.npc
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Mary on June 07, 2016, 09:44:49 pm
increase playercount? remove GE lol
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Just Humen on June 07, 2016, 10:11:57 pm
As a follow up to my agreement in my last comment, I think the best idea to do this thing is by adding an NPC or just add an option to the bankers in GE to talk to them about GE, and they will just give you the link the GE's guide on the forum. In this way, it will spare a lot of time to code and actually let people know that there's a forum.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Drugs on June 08, 2016, 02:04:58 pm
I.think.I.need.to.clarify.

Im.not.hating.on.the.suggestion.any.feedback.is.good.feedback.and.Charrs.topic.is.basically.feedback.

But.im.100%.sure.that.people.who.dont.understand.english.or.dont.understand.GE.ask.from.staff.members.
And.staff.members.should.be.able.to.explain.it.

And.if.a.particular.staff.member.does.not.speak.the.language.then.imo.thats.the.reason.we.have.staff.from.alot.of.different.countries.

What.I.dont.like.is.people.suggesting.other.possible.fixes.that.simply.wont.work.because.the.issue.is.language.barrier.

If.the.npc.idea.finds.a.way.into.the.game.then.it.needs.to.be.in.many.common.languages.that.players.speak.


Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Eliminator on June 08, 2016, 02:49:17 pm
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What.I.dont.like.is.people.suggesting.other.possible.fixes.that.simply.wont.work.because.the.issue.is.language.barrier.

If.the.npc.idea.finds.a.way.into.the.game.then.it.needs.to.be.in.many.common.languages.that.players.speak.


I love this idea! I think that should not only stand for this one npc. I believe it would be best if it applied to all npcs. Maybe an option required when creating an account, language selection. Thus anything there after is now in the language preferred. Now with that being said a button for changing the language would be required aswell, just in case.

Also, i love the part of charrs idea with more slots in the g/e.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Just Humen on June 08, 2016, 03:59:22 pm

If.the.npc.idea.finds.a.way.into.the.game.then.it.needs.to.be.in.many.common.languages.that.players.speak.


If they can't understand simple English sentences, they shouldn't be playing this game.
Plus, Google Translate is always a thing.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Eliminator on June 08, 2016, 06:31:25 pm

If.the.npc.idea.finds.a.way.into.the.game.then.it.needs.to.be.in.many.common.languages.that.players.speak.


If they can't understand simple English sentences, they shouldn't be playing this game.
Plus, Google Translate is always a thing.

So by that logic just because someone does not speak a language they shouldn't have the ability to do what they want. On top of that who the hell would want to sit there trying to use a translation program? You do realize in a program one language to another loses meaning. Unless its translated by a human it loses meaning.

Plus what you just said really limits the people able to play. There is 400 to 430 million people that speak english. There is 7.1 to 7.4 billion people living in the world.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Eddie1408 on June 08, 2016, 08:24:11 pm
Sure. Make a GE tutorial that nobody will understand either because it isn't in arabic/estonian/lithuanian language.



Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Charr on June 08, 2016, 09:10:41 pm
Sure. Make a GE tutorial that nobody will understand either because it isn't in arabic/estonian/lithuanian language.
I suppose I hadn't done a good job of specifying when writing this. This wouldn't be a written tutorial, this would be a cutscene-esque thing quite literally showing you how to buy and sell an item.
Title: Re: A GE tutorial
Post by: Just Humen on June 09, 2016, 12:07:04 am

If.the.npc.idea.finds.a.way.into.the.game.then.it.needs.to.be.in.many.common.languages.that.players.speak.


If they can't understand simple English sentences, they shouldn't be playing this game.
Plus, Google Translate is always a thing.

So by that logic just because someone does not speak a language they shouldn't have the ability to do what they want. On top of that who the hell would want to sit there trying to use a translation program? You do realize in a program one language to another loses meaning. Unless its translated by a human it loses meaning.

Plus what you just said really limits the people able to play. There is 400 to 430 million people that speak english. There is 7.1 to 7.4 billion people living in the world.

Yeah, I was wrong I guess. I take back what I said.