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General Discussion / Re: quesion
« on: September 03, 2015, 03:11:40 am »If you wanted me to stop replying to your posts, you...you could have just asked nicelywuttt n..noo!!!!!
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If you wanted me to stop replying to your posts, you...you could have just asked nicelywuttt n..noo!!!!!
is there any way to detect a bug? or could there be one in the future?i'd like that the game would be able to detect deaths and dropped items , and if possible , the cause of the death. that way there could be a hint on the conditions a certain player died in.We have pickup/drop logs, these also count items on death. These include the location of pickup/drop.
I wasn't being arrogant at all, I'm just stating that it's hard to recover items in this situation.thanks for the objective analysis and criticism of the topic and the situation as a whole. this reply is the only one that actually tried to solve these problems instead of blaming me and running in circles. this game needs more care for the players and new rules to help in these kinds of situations. as for the proof suggestion , since i have barely any basic knowledge about coding , i don't think i can suggest anything, but if it was possible i'd like that the game would be able to detect deaths and dropped items , and if possible , the cause of the death. that way there could be a hint on the conditions a certain player died in.
This situation was also caused by a few rules being broken to begin with.
You have stated that the rules of account sharing were broken due to clans not having a good safeguard for these issues.
As for when it comes to item recovery and punishments for this situation, what do you suggest?
It's hard to punish someone for this as you voluntarily gave them the account information.
There's no scamming or hacking involved, and we (currently) don't have rules that cover this situation yet.
There is no 'crime' here technically, which is making it difficult.
Sure, he gave away the items in the bank, and removed the thread.
If he got into the account illegitimately then this would be much more of an issue.
Now, I'll try and respond to the two points you've posted;
Item Recovery Feedback
We do have logs when it comes to things such as staking and trading.
The issue is with bugs and unique situations is it's hard to prepare against them.
Bugs are just that - if some item randomly got deleted somehow, it could bypass any logs currently put into place, since the action of it being deleted was a bug it might not trigger any script to write about this issue.
Video Proof
The reason we ask for video proof is due to images and logs being easily edited, whereas videos are much harder to manipulate successfully. There are many, and I mean many people in games like this who fake images to try and get items for free from unsuspecting staff.
It's just a way of validating what happened.
Of course, images aren't completely nullified as proof in many cases, though they have a lot of requirements to be valid themselves.
In the end, if we just went off of what users said, then item recovery would be a lot more of a mess.
Clans
Rules regarding account sharing should be looked over and reviewed due to this case, I agree.
What happened in this situation of Estpure giving out the bank items of Noise didn't break the rules.
Though this is something that is considered griefing, with the thread deletion and the items being given away.
Honestly though, I think you would have had better responses from people if you made a suggestion thread with ideas on how to prevent this in the future. With this case there's not much we can do - though in the future we could put rules in so that this isn't acceptable.
In the end though it comes to the fact that even if we put more placeholders in to stop griefing from happening again, they could just be bypassed with social engineering.
For example, you trusted Estpure enough to give him access to the account (to presumably change and update the forum thread) however, if you had a bank pin - the issue of the items being given away wouldn't have happened....unless you also trusted him enough to give out the bank pin as well.
I'll make a thread suggesting that we add in Griefing to the rules and make this a punishable offense in the future, to at least deter people from doing this again.
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Congratulations on 97 firemaking.