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General Discussion / Re: players representatives ?

« on: August 04, 2015, 05:09:38 pm »

Staff members are players, they should be the player representatives?

i think the difference here is like the difference between government and parliament

I think the parliament here on emps is the suggestions and feedback sections (keep in mind anyone can enter their thoughts there rather than going through first a limited group of player representatives and then a limited group of staff members).
If you've been paying attention Thomy reads every discussion players have on the forums, and if he thinks there's a good argument or idea from coming out of any of that, either feedback, changes, content or otherwise, within a moderate limitation of workload, he makes it happen.
Also, there's a limited amount of players already that manages community work. Take a look at Rock Gyo, or Fate, or myself for that instance. Wouldn't they be your representatives?

because you have the mindset of staff members

No. They have a mindset of a mature person, not a kid.

Didn't know mature persons abused their powers on the sb and basically for whatever they want

See: emps thread when emps got closed

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General Discussion / Re: players representatives ?

« on: August 04, 2015, 03:07:46 pm »

Also, there's a limited amount of players already that manages community work. Take a look at Rock Gyo, or Fate, or myself for that instance. Wouldn't they be your representatives?

None of those are non-Romanians normal players. Fate quits a ton and I don't need to explain to you why you aren't a normal player.

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General Discussion / Re: players representatives ?

« on: August 04, 2015, 02:10:00 am »

Staff members are players, they should be the player representatives?

They arent chosen by players, but by some red noob ._.

I'm very sure they would not have been chosen if they are not respected and accepted throughout the whole community and aren't full aware of what's going on in the community. Seems to be pointless to be a staff member if you don't know how to interact.

Yeah right, that's why Martin barely knows the players he's promoting.

Anyway, staff members can't be (they already sort of are) player representatives because they aren't players but staff members
They have privileges and powers that normal players don't and get treated differently.
You'd like someone with the rights/ranks of a player to be a representative.

https://emps-world.net/forum/index.php?topic=8834.0

Here's How it Works:

I. Basic Information:
From here, you are able to nominate three players you think should represent you.
The three players with the most votes will be your representatives. Those 3 players will have an invisible rank; they'll have an equal say in everything just like every other staff member.
The term limit for these representatives is 3 months. After those months are up, new representatives will be chosen.

III. Functions of a Representative:
Discuss current in-game issues.
Rule Changes
Discuss Overall Gameplay
Propose Change in these areas
In Charge of Moderator Promotions

Tl;dr making a staff member a player representative will literally not change anything. The point of a player representative is to get 'another voice in' while a staff member that is also a player representative basically keeps the amount of input the same.

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Off-Topic / Re: The Versus Thread

« on: July 26, 2015, 07:09:56 pm »

Very thin

100 million dollars now or 200 million dollars in 20 years?

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 07:04:58 pm »

We believe in Allah, and you people ask us why you believe in something that doesn't exist or have seen before, Just a question. Does it really bother you or tickles ur ankle to know why?

Lets put it in this way
We believe in Allah And we know that he EXISTS, proofs are, 1 The universe HAVE NOT EXISTED ALONE LIKE THIS someone has to be wise to predict what will happen if he/she/it did this or that 2, How did the humans EXIST in the first place? Allah has created us adding every single system in our bodies(Believe it or not its true) 3, You are right now on the computer, who created the computer, it was Charles Babbage, Who created Charles? who gave Charles the brain to think and create something that we're currently using?

Believe it or not, WE Believe that Allah exists and if it really bothers that you guys think we believe in something that doesn't exist, Then you must go take some religion classes...

1. How do you know this? The worlds smartest scientists aren't sure but yet you are?
2. I don't know, do you?
3. The 'first cause' argument doesn't need to point to a god, it can point towards an object as well. And it certainly doesn't need to point towards your god.

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 06:32:39 pm »

What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

Just don't post in this topic

I'm debating the existence of God from my perspective?

''I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing.''

'' But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh.  ''

Debate is over

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 04:54:29 pm »

What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

Just don't post in this topic

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 03:56:33 pm »

What does this has to do with biology

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "

Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 03:31:02 pm »

'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "

This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."

'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'

Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.

You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.

less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.

Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?

same argument as for the mythological creatures, the story is made up and it's very unlikely that a made up story is reality.

How do you know the story is made up? I didn't say the wizards OF harry potter. I said wizards like them

Harry potter is a fictional sstor, the world and system of harry pottee is made up.
Less likely to be true

>Less likely, so you admit there is a possibility of them existing?

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 03:28:47 pm »

'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "

This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."

'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'

Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.

You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.

less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.

Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?

same argument as for the mythological creatures, the story is made up and it's very unlikely that a made up story is reality.

How do you know the story is made up? I didn't say the wizards OF harry potter. I said wizards like them

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 03:26:56 pm »

'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "

This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."

'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'

Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.

You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.

less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.

Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 03:24:04 pm »

'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "

This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."

'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'

Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.

You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 03:19:37 pm »

You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?

Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula

It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from

The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help

Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers

I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?

My answer would be no because I know that dragons are big creatures, therefore if they existed they would have been seen by people and they would have been discovered.
they are big, can fly, spit fire and are noticed pretty easy.
Now returning to 'God'.
There isn't a good description of how that 'creature' looks like nor where to find it--> you can't be sure it doesn't exist.
Our knowledge is yet way too smal to make claims like 'god doesn't exist'.

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

That is my dragon, it's invisible and has a ghost form.

Does it exist now? What about leprechauns and wizards that hide from us?

no, there is a possibility of it existing.
leprechauns and wizards are imaginary creatures that people came up with.
It is known that they are made up because people told other people they made em up.
It's unknown if God is made up or there really were visions and all that crap.
People could be refering to other creatures as God without us knowing they meant those creatures.
There are so many questions about this subject that aren't aswered yet, therefore you can't be claiming things like 'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist " or 'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'

So if your girlfriend/boss/whatever asks you if unicorns exist would you say  'there is a possibility'  ?

What about people that claim to have seen aliens? Do you think it is possible they are speaking the truth?

Do you believe in russells teapot? it MIGHT be there

Irfox, could you tell me who created 'us' or how did we come? I really want an Atheist to come up with an answer to this question

You're presenting a loaded question by saying 'created'. And the answer is I don't know, go ask a biologist.

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 03:05:56 pm »

You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?

Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula

It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from

The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help

Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers

I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?

My answer would be no because I know that dragons are big creatures, therefore if they existed they would have been seen by people and they would have been discovered.
they are big, can fly, spit fire and are noticed pretty easy.
Now returning to 'God'.
There isn't a good description of how that 'creature' looks like nor where to find it--> you can't be sure it doesn't exist.
Our knowledge is yet way too smal to make claims like 'god doesn't exist'.

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

That is my dragon, it's invisible and has a ghost form.

Does it exist now? What about leprechauns and wizards that hide from us?

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Debates / Re: Religion

« on: July 26, 2015, 02:35:59 pm »

You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?

Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula

It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from

The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help

Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers

I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?