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Not even close of the best and it were gbs so i dont see a reason why would you show it..Got me thinking, what would be the biggest pk in emps? I remember Bhpk killing this kid for lantern and other old school rares at ~lvl 15 multi hill back in scape.
Na men. Darts were op cuz of ability to use shield. God bows had higher dps and 3 times the range.NERFING WEAPONS THAT WERE AVERAGE AT THE VERY BEST??!!??!?!?!?
Are you mad?
pure useless compared to darts even pre-nerf.
Didn't you listen? I already said they are viable.I already said this when this update was being developed but it was insisted the corrupted versions would be released anywayAlso, corrupt items will have half the charges, so they won't produce that much energy anymore.
Isn't it quite sad that you admit that the corrupt versions are just a generator for energy?
Wouldnt it be the best to make these armour and weapons viable now instead of leaving them as they are?
Really interesting read, thank you! I think the main conflict with ancient items is, that they are too easy to obtain and to maintain.Since there is already an insane amount of energy in the game I don't think doubling the repair cost is enough. One of the biggest problems is that corrupt items give jsut as much energy upon death as normal items. Perhaps lowering the amount dropped (at 100%) to 2k for normal items and 1k for corrupt items will help.
I'd recommend following changes:
- Corrupt parts drop chances 1.6% --> 1.2%
- Normal parts drop chances: 1.2% --> 0.8%
- Double repair costs
- Corrupt parts charges halved
- Spectral combat power buff
Thoughts on the possible changes?
Not getting energy when the items are lost on death is a good thing yes but you have to keep in mind that the person who killed someone using ancient armour (the best armour in the game) should get a reward.You are somewhat right. First of all, yes they completely outclass gwd armour. It completely blows my mind when I see people still using gdw armour because ancient armour is so much better and like you said it isn't very expensive to repair and all. However ancient armour being better than gwd isn't a bad thing, but like you said the armour is way too cheap to repair. This is because of the insane amount of ancient energy that enters the game every single day. Energy is like 700gp each so repairing a full set will cost you around 6m which is nothing considering the time it takes to fully degrade. In my opinion the rarity of the items is fine as it is. If energy becomes more difficult to get and thus becomes more expensive people will stop using the armour in pvm situations because it will be too expensive to use compared to gwd armour.
In my opinion the items should no longer turn to energy on death. Instead they should drop like any other item but lose a percentage of their charges, let's say 50%. This means there will be no way to get energy, at least for the time being. There is currently PLENTY of energy in the game to repair all of the items + new items come into the game with 100% charge. Once the amount of energy has been decreased to a low enough amount we can consider new ways of obtaining energy but that will take months.
Also about the corrupt items, they're fine. The armours are used a lot by pures just like the spear. The only items that aren't being used much are the hammer and longsword because they are outclassed by the spear.
Do not understand me wrong. Ancient armour is supposed to be the strongest. But they should not be that easy to obtain/maintain. With all the boss and prayer changes GWD became a challenge and consumes alot of time and ressources. I might be an ironman only, but I have most of the items that are needed to solo any boss and I was able to kill 1-2 bosses per inventory. At the same time I could have killed 7-10 spectrals using prayer. Even 3 itemers can kill couple spectrals without losing anything.
The biggest amount of ancient energy came from people buying all the crappy corrupt items that nobody used, just to die with them so they can loot the ancient energy. Now that there is enough energy in the game, they do not need to do that anymore. Making corrupt items more useful would make people think twice before they want to sacrifice them in the future.
I also have to disagree that the armours should be dropped with half of the charges. This will be complicated because "untradable" items arent lost upon death so the guy who lost them could pick them up. Even if they were made so that the killer gets them, the armours would not get out of the game which is the main purpose of them. There will be also players who could xfer the items they dont want on the account they want.
I do think that lowering the charges and getting energy worth of 50% of the remaining charges is a good start to get less energy into the game. Increasing the repair cost by twice as much results in even more energy getting out of the game. Another idea could be that you do not get any energy at all as you mentioned before. A way to get energy could be adding them to the drop table of spectrals as an always drop (1-25).
I guess the rarity could stay as it is, but the requirements to obtain these sets need to be changed. When you see one player using 2 accounts with 3 items on only to farm spectrals, you know something is not going right.
