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General Discussion / Re: it's time to make a change!
« on: August 18, 2018, 12:05:03 pm »
Guys this post isn't about what made the game die in the first place, it's about how it can be revived. I would like to hear thomy's opinion on the matter.
Btw why not make a voting poll like how jagex did with osrs

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General Discussion / Re: it's time to make a change!
« on: August 17, 2018, 07:58:35 pm »
id disagree with you. Jagex knew osrs would work and it would never fail them. so they had nothing to lose by bringing osrs. me, as one of many other veteran players, can tell you that problem isnt in game version. bring ing back emps scape wont increase our community at all, our community size will stay as it is right now. i do understand people want old times back, but you also have to realise you cannot rewind time back. Time is most valuable thing in our lifes that we cant change nor get more of it from somewhere. time goes on and so do people and everything else. you have to suck it up and deal with the fact that u cant bring back old community.
I TOTALLY disagree with you! bringing oldschool back would triple the current community size in a matter of week, the biggest example is osrs!

It won't triple shit because if would just remove majority of the content there is in the game and all that would remain is the shit that people have been doing for years over years. Also people who have joined back to rs would have no reason to join emps back because there would be absolutely nothing to do.

You need to understand the fact that the gaming market in general has changed. Both runescapes combined are dead compared to what RS used to be a decade ago. Peaks were around 300k players back then. Now they are at 90k. Back when emps-scape was a thing, osrs wasn't. Even if oldschool emps was brought back, it wouldn't gain much of attention because osrs is an option.
im level 126 osr with over 2k total, i play osrs everyday, if emps comes back ill simply play both

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General Discussion / Re: it's time to make a change!
« on: August 17, 2018, 07:40:57 pm »
id disagree with you. Jagex knew osrs would work and it would never fail them. so they had nothing to lose by bringing osrs. me, as one of many other veteran players, can tell you that problem isnt in game version. bring ing back emps scape wont increase our community at all, our community size will stay as it is right now. i do understand people want old times back, but you also have to realise you cannot rewind time back. Time is most valuable thing in our lifes that we cant change nor get more of it from somewhere. time goes on and so do people and everything else. you have to suck it up and deal with the fact that u cant bring back old community.
I TOTALLY disagree with you! bringing oldschool back would triple the current community size in a matter of week, the biggest example is osrs!

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General Discussion / Re: it's time to make a change!
« on: August 17, 2018, 07:39:04 pm »
I am sorry to say this, but there will be no change - atleast not the one you expect.

Let me try to ilustrate you the situation of this server from my point of view. No roasting intended.



We have a smooth running server with tons of (wrong) features, which took alot time to implement.

On the one hand, we have the community that was represented by the same 15-20 players over the last years.
On the other hand, we have all the other players.

Let's turn the time back where Emps-World had 600 online players.
People start leaving after they realize this is not emps-scape.

500 players:

"RSPS are dying out in general. People get old, family, etc. Nothing we can do about it."

350 players:
Emps-World is turning into RS3 with auras, HD graphics, dyes, etc.

300 players:
Thomy: "Let's make a poll which updates the community wants next? I have made a list to choose from.
We want construction (money sink).
One random player: Improve PvP please.
Thomy: "Construction, it is!"

200 players:
F this game. Emps is dead. Empty wildy. No fun.
Bye.

150 players:
Emps is dying. Please bring back old emps-scape. Revive wilderness, etc.
RSPS are dying out in general. Also make specific suggestions to change something or gtfo.
Quick prayers.

100 players:
Thomy: "It's time for our yearly community poll."
Oldschool!
Thomy: "Oldschool sounds interesting. I could do this and this.
No oldschool. Community gets divided!
Thomy: Sorry, community has decided. No oldschool.
Group bosses!
Thomy: We have a winner!
PvP improvements. Quick prayers please.

50 players:

Thomy: "I did everything the community wanted. Why can't we get more players?
How about voting (after it failed in the past)?
Thomy: Sure, let's spend more time and money on emps-world.
Voting does not work.
Improve PvP!
Thomy: Community?
Meh, we don't care. just do it.
After X years, emps-world gets its first pvp update with shitty rewards as always.
Now it's our turn again. Skilling outfits, titles and more pets!
Thomy: Yes, yes, yes!
This is what you call a PvP update? WTF!?!?
You got what you wanted. No more pvp updates, no oldschool, no nothing!

...

Quick prayers?
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I hope this makes you understand the sitatuion of emps-world from my point of view.
Thomy listened to the same players over the last years. The same players still enjoy this game and Thomy does not like big changes in opposite directions.
That's why he keeps moving forward to make the current players happy instead of looking into other directions (e.g. Oldschool). Additionally, he is the only coder this server has. The time he spends on this server is limited as well.

I remember when emps-wars got changed into the flag thing. Even though the whole community disliked the update, Thomy did not revert it, because he spent too much time on it. His time can not be wasted.

Working on oldschool would mean world was a time waste in itself. Try to explain this to someone like Thomy. Additionally, the community could dislike oldschool and quit entirely (which I don't mind tbh considering hundreds of players quit because of the changes that were pushed by the same community.)
And then, there is the biggest risk left. What if oldschool does not live up to its hype? Emps will be dead completely.
Even if Thomy decided to work on oldschool, I can guarantee you that he would approach the same players for ideas that pushed world into its ruin and the other players would get the blame by suggesting oldschool.
what you said is true, if he reverts the game into oldschool all of his work he did so far will go away, but my suggestion is to make an oldschool server, he can hire a developer to help him, that is the only way to bring back the old community, atleast a dozen of my class mates agrees with me, and that's just me! if he spends 2 hours each weekend on the oldschool version he can get it released in few months. this is a risk he must take, otherwise all of his work will be gone, I mean come on emps-world with only 50 players online?? oldschool will have atleast 250

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General Discussion / Re: it's time to make a change!
« on: August 17, 2018, 04:52:09 pm »
I disagree with that, it'll bring all of the old players back. and trust me it' worth the risk because the game is dying anyway this is the only way for it to survive. if this change doesn't happen emps-world is gonna die in a year

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General Discussion / it's time to make a change!
« on: August 17, 2018, 02:19:08 pm »
hello everyone,
I started playing emps-scape since I was 12 years old, that's 8 years ago!
when it got closed It felt like I lost a piece of my childhood it was so devastating, but then emps-world came and it made  me and hundreds others happy.
but unfortunately this game took a very wrong turn with the updates, I remember one day emps reached 1k players online!! it was massive!!! but now? 60 players on peek time.
so I have a suggestion to make and I hope..i really hope you take it seriously.
few years ago runescape was in this same track, it was dying, until someone suggested that they bring back the older version of runescape which is known today by the name :"oldschool runescape". jagex didn't expect for this to work they thought it was a stupid idea, but surprisingly osrs is even bigger than rs3 today!! so I say lets bring back the older version of emps-scape, im pretty sure you have backup files for it! maybe release a beta first! it will work trust me! all of the vets will come back hundreds of players are dying for this to come back! it will make this wonderful game we all love revive! and come back from the dead! it's a shame!! it's a shame that emps-world AKA emps-scape has only 60 players online!! please consider this very carefully! I hope you make the right decision


kind regards,

emps-scape/world veteran player

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