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Title: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Beershake on April 08, 2016, 06:45:46 pm
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The purpose of this guide is to give some information on how to use your food, potions, prayers, spells, teleports, armour and weapons to give your best at "Player versus Monster" combat. Surviving while bossing may save you millions of gp, if not your best gear, and also help to build your bank.
There are still a lot of people who do attempt to kill monsters with experimental gears as they don't know how to do it at the best for certain monsters, so this guide will try to give some basic guide lines about this.

REMEMBER: This is only for PvM and these tips may not fit at all with PvP so please use this at your own risk.

Table of contents

Press 'Ctrl+F' to find easily each part of content you saw in the table above.


1.0 - Equipment
Equipment is one of the most important things in PvM. It's your primary source of defense, can prolong your prayer points and give you a better chance to hit higher. Choosing the right gear is vital to do bossing correctly(may be also applied to Slayer), and incorrect setups will get you killed within seconds at many bosses. These gears are also great for when you're training combat to be able to PvM better. There are also different types of gears which can provide advantages over other types, and I'll try to explain these advantages and disadvantages.

Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Beershake on April 08, 2016, 06:46:21 pm



In order to have the best gear you can actually afford you can combine any of these elements as you like, just use them properly. Make them price-friendly as much as possible, and also give the priority to the main equipment such as amour or weapons, the accessories can come after the selection of those as they aren't the main source of offensive/defensive stats.
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Beershake on April 08, 2016, 06:46:35 pm
2.0 - Consumables
Consumables are the main source of healing or boosting you stats that you have while in combat. So you should stock up a nice amout of these in order to do your PvM without interruptions. You should mainly pay attention prayer potions and food, however if you wanna kill monsters faster I do recommend you stuck up on super potions and brews as well.
I saw people filling their inventories full of food and put their hopes only on that, so I will briefly explain some food/potion effects that might be handy while fighting monsters.

Food

Potions

(http://emps-world.net/img/itemicons/individual/13663.png) - Guardian Angel is an another consumable which is worth a mention. It's special effect will be protecting user's items once from Death, or will revive user's character. It will regenerate the user with full health at the same spot he died. The user will be immune for attacks for 10 seconds.

You may have noticed that some potions give you better advantages than others, it's up to you what to choose but if you're wealthy enough to afford them then do it, it's really worth doing.
You don't always have to keep the disadvantages of some potions, so here you are few 'workarounds'.
Many people prefer using Super restore potions instead of Prayer potions as they restore more prayer points and also you debuffed stats(except Hitpoints). Super restore potions come handy also when using brews as they restore stats that brews debuff.
Super Melee potions save you a lot of inventory space, they're really useful for this, you have some extra slots for food, potions or even equipment. Make good use of them.
Brews are an alternative option to heal your Hitpoints but be sure to not mistake which one you're using for your combat style. Saradomin brews are better while using Magic and Ranged combat types, Zamorak instead for Melee users.

3.0 - Prayers

Prayers are very important if you want consider seriously PvM. They provide excellent way to protect you from damage, boosting your stats and other cool advantages. I will only mention prayers that are useful in PvM which may be completely different from PvP, anyways here we go.



These are the most used prayers in PvM but you may find useful also others. Prayer skill is really worth training I'd say!

4.0 - Spells and Teleports

Spells can give you nice advantages whatever combat type you're using, you can combine spells to melee or ranged combat type to hybrid at the best against certain monsters(even if hybriding isn't really used in PvM).
Teleporting in time can save you from difficult combat situations, bring to monster spots that you can't reach on foot and also take safely your loots to bank. There are also items, like amulets and rings, that can teleport you to monster locations, and not only, but I won't cover those in this guide.
I will talk about most common spells used in combat in order to obtain some nice advantages, but I wont go too much inside Magic skill nor talk about spells to use for magic-only combat type.


Above spells and teleports are from Normal spellbook(except the Teleportat tabs), Ancient spellbook contains only spells that should be used for a constant magic combat, and has pretty much same teleportation spells as Normal and Lunar spellbooks do. Lunar spellbook does contain spells that can be really useful for solo and also team PvM/bossing.


5.0 - General tips

For general tips I mean that tips on how to set up your inventory and all that stuff will be given.
First of all gather all the information about monsters you're willing to fight, be sure to know which prayers to use, which combat style to use, and also which gear to use. Do your best to keep it budget-friendly and also get the best items you could. Don't spend a big part of your budget just for 1 piece of your gear, for example: Don't buy a bandos chesplate if all your other items have to be dragon. Get something in between, Bandos chestplate costs 25M, you can buy an entire gear including weapon with 25M and still be very good.
Use right potions, for example: If you know that the monster you're going to fight requires a prayer activated all the time, bring some extra prayer or restore potions to prolong your trip.
Using spells and teleports is extremely useful so always bring a teleport tab instead of runes(if possible), to preserve some inventory space.
To get aknowledged about the monster you're willing to fight have a good use of forums which contain guides with useful information about bosses and other monsters, and also don't forget the wiki.
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Beershake on April 08, 2016, 06:46:45 pm
6.0 - Conclusion

I hope that, even if this guide isn't finished yet, it can be useful. I'll update this topic within next few days with more information and format corrections.

Credits
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Any staff member is authorised to modify this topic if there's any incorrect information by replacing it with correct information, or even add information I've missed.(just let me know what was modified).
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Charr on April 08, 2016, 08:23:02 pm
Few things:
- Dragon darts are currently the best dps for ranged when paired with divine.
- Combination capes are missing entirely, they have better stats than a skillcape, should be mentioned. (max cape too)
- 3rd mage amulet is worse than fury, shouldn't get a mention
- Antifire potions are not mentioned, they should be
- SOL does preserve runes, you read the wiki description wrong. "Although it does not conserve a specific kind of rune like most staves, it has a chance of 35% to preserve runes on cast."
- You seem to hate gloves, void, bandos, arma and battle gloves need to be added to their sets and barrow gloves need to be mentioned
- Zamorakian spear needs to be mentioned
- Rare whips and d hasta shouldn't be mentioned
- Ags and zgs are barely useful for PvM in comparison to bgs and sgs, they should not be mentioned
- 3rd sets should be up at high budget, not medium
- Elite void should get mentioned, it has better stats than regular
- Guardian angel deserves a mention
- Double spacebar seems to be a common error in your writing, Ctrl + f and typing "  " in the search bar will let you find them

That's all I could find for now, appreciate the effort you've put into this guide, looking forward to more.
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Beershake on April 08, 2016, 10:21:08 pm
Quote from: Charr on April 08, 2016, 08:23:02 pm
Few things:
- Dragon darts are currently the best dps for ranged when paired with divine.
- Combination capes are missing entirely, they have better stats than a skillcape, should be mentioned. (max cape too)
- 3rd mage amulet is worse than fury, shouldn't get a mention
- Antifire potions are not mentioned, they should be
- SOL does preserve runes, you read the wiki description wrong. "Although it does not conserve a specific kind of rune like most staves, it has a chance of 35% to preserve runes on cast."
- You seem to hate gloves, void, bandos, arma and battle gloves need to be added to their sets and barrow gloves need to be mentioned
- Zamorakian spear needs to be mentioned
- Rare whips and d hasta shouldn't be mentioned
- Ags and zgs are barely useful for PvM in comparison to bgs and sgs, they should not be mentioned
- 3rd sets should be up at high budget, not medium
- Elite void should get mentioned, it has better stats than regular
- Guardian angel deserves a mention
- Double spacebar seems to be a common error in your writing, Ctrl + f and typing "  " in the search bar will let you find them

That's all I could find for now, appreciate the effort you've put into this guide, looking forward to more.

Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate that you take time to read this. I will add things that I've forgot, and I will consider removing/changing some things.
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Magecrune on April 09, 2016, 02:46:22 am
I have some points to be made as well.

Overall, I do not approve including all this information in one big topic. You could have created separate topics in which you could have explained it all further without dragging it too long.
Since the topic is so large, don't expect noobs to read it. It just contains too much material. And for more experienced players it's already common knowledge.
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Beershake on April 09, 2016, 08:15:23 am
Quote from: Saoledpede1 on April 09, 2016, 02:46:22 am
I have some points to be made as well.
  • Amulet of glory is better than amulet of power in every aspect.
  • Under low budget equipment it says that "although not all staves preserve runes, Master wand does not but it has a chance of 36% to preserve runes on cast." What you meant is that some staves have infinite amount of elemental runes (air, water, fire, earth) and some preserve runes. Examples: Mystic Lava Staff (fire+earth), Mystic mud staff (water+earth). Master wand certainly preserves runes, so fix that sentence.
  • Under low equipment bolts you should explain what emerald e, ruby e and diamond e bolts do.
  • Medium budget: 3rd melee has risen to 30m atm.
  • When talking about void you must mention that you have to wear gloves as well.
  • Since this part of the topic talks about budget, I would prefer abby whip over hasta (no reason to pay more for the same weapon)
  • Remove 3rd age amulet from 3rd mage gear (fury is better and the price is about the same)
  • As far as I know, Kebbit bolts are not working. Mary mentioned this in a topic a while back. Can't confirm if it's still true.
  • Staff of light preserves runes as well.
  • Non-tradable items: full slayer helm is missing.
  • Under potions you should explain how to actually use brews, so the stat nerfs won't affect you.
  • As Charr said, 3rd age gears are high budget, except 3rd mage gear.
  • You should talk about each weapons special attack as well, not just mention that they have one.

Overall, I do not approve including all this information in one big topic. You could have created separate topics in which you could have explained it all further without dragging it too long.
Since the topic is so large, don't expect noobs to read it. It just contains too much material. And for more experienced players it's already common knowledge.

Thank you for the pointers I will keep in mind them while updating the topic. Anyways I think it is better to keep everything in one place, sure if I would've made three different topics, like: PvM Equipment tips, PvM Consumables, PvM Prayers and Spells; they were shorter and I've could go more in depth but I prefer keeping all information in one place so whoever needs it, just as a reminder or whatever, can 'Ctrl+F' in this thread.
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Magecrune on April 09, 2016, 08:46:03 am
I would personally prefer to see Consumables and prayers in one topic and 2-3 separate Equipment/Pvming guides.
For example: Beginner's guide to PvMing, which would help with the gear (what and when to use) and also whom to kill to level up and get better gear.
Same for intermediate players and experienced players (high-level players).

When writing such guides bear in mind to keep those guides easy to follow (this guide is no way easy to follow, too many items) and you must expect that the reader doesn't know anything, don't leave out anything that you think should be common knowledge.
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Beershake on April 09, 2016, 11:05:18 am
Quote from: Saoledpede1 on April 09, 2016, 08:46:03 am
I would personally prefer to see Consumables and prayers in one topic and 2-3 separate Equipment/Pvming guides.
For example: Beginner's guide to PvMing, which would help with the gear (what and when to use) and also whom to kill to level up and get better gear.
Same for intermediate players and experienced players (high-level players).

When writing such guides bear in mind to keep those guides easy to follow (this guide is no way easy to follow, too many items) and you must expect that the reader doesn't know anything, don't leave out anything that you think should be common knowledge.

Actually yes, separting like that would be easier to follow, if I only thought about that before posting this lol.
Anyways people can easily find what they want to get information about by looking at the content table which just pops in to reader's eyes at the beginig of the thread.
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Kukuruzas on April 22, 2016, 03:03:58 pm
Great guide ! Thank you for all the time and effort you have put into this guide. I really hope that this will help players :)

Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Triangle Dot on April 22, 2016, 08:15:34 pm
Also, include ancient armours in this, the yalso help quite a bit. :)
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Try Again Fo on April 22, 2016, 08:15:40 pm
wow. How much time did you spent on this guide? This is awesome!  ;)
Title: Re: [PvM] Tips on gears, consumables and other
Post by: Beershake on April 22, 2016, 08:21:11 pm
Quote from: Try Again Fo on April 22, 2016, 08:15:40 pm
wow. How much time did you spent on this guide? This is awesome!  ;)

It took me something about 5 hours to write it, but I didn't do it all at the same time, I spent something like 1 hour per day max for this..
Anyways it will be soon deleted, as I'm planing to make few in-depth guides who touch the same topics mentioned in this one, so it will be less confusionary and it will be easier to follow.