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Emps-World => General Discussion => Topic started by: Brony Fggt on February 07, 2017, 02:12:31 pm
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As the title suggests, let's discuss about new players. I was scrolling through the forums, and I've noticed that people complain about new players not coming here and older players quitting, effectively dropping our player count. But the question is: Why are people not coming here? In my opinion, it's because others don't know about this server (poor advertisement). I myself 6 years ago (with my old account) found this server only when I misheard a random conversation. What are your throughts?
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I'm sure newer players do check out the forums but never bother to log in and say something. There are lots of lower players running around the game all the time.
We've been steadily and slowly gaining new players over the course of few months and are doing great compared to other server; nothing to worry about there.
What i've also noticed whenever someone new posts something 'stupid' on shoutbox or suggestions board (i.e pls bring old emps back) they get roasted out
of forums by couple users. Not mentioning any names but YOU can leave that post alone and just ignore the person instead of roasting. This has happened a couple times from what I've noticed
and it's just not fun to see happening.
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There are plenty of new players, this has always been the case.
One thing I find a problem is that they're dropped into 'emps world' cc. This is usually a fustercluck of flaming, people trying to sell shit and people giving misinformation. It can give them quite the misrepresentation of the community. We used to have 'assistance' cc for newer players, but it seems to have disappeared after I left the staff team. Given that I was the only one really active in it that was a logical move, albeit not a good one imo.
It's more about people not staying, regardless if they're new or not.
What i've also noticed whenever someone new posts something 'stupid' on shoutbox or suggestions board (i.e pls bring old emps back) they get roasted out
of forums by couple users. Not mentioning any names but YOU can leave that post alone and just ignore the person instead of roasting. This has happened a couple times from what I've noticed
I know what you're getting at, but I do think stupidity is to be made fun of. I suppose there aren't FAQ's and whatnot on the things 'stupid' people ask for on a consistent basis, but these could be written if deemed necessary. The forums should by no means be a 'safe space' when it comes to opinions. Let people learn.
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I'm sure newer players do check out the forums but never bother to log in and say something. There are lots of lower players running around the game all the time.
We've been steadily and slowly gaining new players over the course of few months and are doing great compared to other server; nothing to worry about there.
What i've also noticed whenever someone new posts something 'stupid' on shoutbox or suggestions board (i.e pls bring old emps back) they get roasted out
of forums by couple users. Not mentioning any names but YOU can leave that post alone and just ignore the person instead of roasting. This has happened a couple times from what I've noticed
and it's just not fun to see happening.
I have been playing on my new pure, and I can only say that the new players leave very quickly. And those "new players" are mostly experienced players with new accounts that hop back to their mains, because of their knowledge about this server like the teleports, training spots, moneymaking, etc. But I still agree that the playerbase has been growing since 2015, but those players are probably old ones that heard about this server coming back just recently. I just would like to see some sort of advertising about this server, or it'll eventually die out.
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It's more about people not staying, regardless if they're new or not.
I know that people will leave someday for irl reasons or just because they got bored or because they're not enjoying the game. I remember when there was vote system added into the game, and I don't know why would you remove it. This server needs to have more players joining the game than quitting.
There are plenty of new players, this has always been the case.
I think that most of those 'new players' are actually old players returning to this game after they heard that it's back online. If you'd take a look at the introductions section, you'd see a lot of posts about introducing themselves. Now look at the OP's. Almost all of them are offline. So, I think that you should change the word plenty to few, but I might be wrong.
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I remember when there was vote system added into the game, and I don't know why would you remove it. This server needs to have more players joining the game than quitting.
https://emps-world.net/wiki/Voting
How many times have I posted this link?
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I do agree with you that when it comes to advertising, we are not doing a great job however its still decent.
I am not with nor against adding voting system back, since something is always better than nothing, if you try there is a small chance that maybe 1 or 2 players a week to check the server out from a voting website, if you don't even try then no chance of it happening
however I don't want the old voting system back, I don't mind adding a TAG or w.e its called next to the players ing name, that ofc can be disabled from the settings if you don't really like it or even a cape to show your loyalty to the server.
maybe adding a monthly reward for the most players that has voted,
IF NOT
then I believe some events should be done by the staff team to encourage people to make videos, post about emps somewhere , pics, I don't really know but rewards can be monthly ( you can keep the item you win for a whole month then another player win another items and so on )
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I remember when there was vote system added into the game, and I don't know why would you remove it. This server needs to have more players joining the game than quitting.
https://emps-world.net/wiki/Voting
How many times have I posted this link?
My apologies, I haven't been on the forums for too long. I've read it, and if it's too expensive, why can't you just leave the server on the list there, which is free? To get the votes, there could be a link for those who care about the server's future and are willing to spend their time voting for nothing in return. That would give this server at least a few new loyal players that this server could use. But that's just my suggestion.
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From what I remember we were on Runelocus first but none voted. People only vote if the voting rewards are ridiculously overpowered. We had none and
overpowered voting rewards would just probably end up ruining the eco in the long run.
When that didn't work we had automatic voting system which voted for you when you logged in. We ended up getting banned from Runelocus because we skyrocketed to top 5 or so lol.
Atleast I remember that being the case^
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I do agree with you that when it comes to advertising, we are not doing a great job however its still decent.
I am not with nor against adding voting system back, since something is always better than nothing, if you try there is a small chance that maybe 1 or 2 players a week to check the server out from a voting website, if you don't even try then no chance of it happening
however I don't want the old voting system back, I don't mind adding a TAG or w.e its called next to the players ing name, that ofc can be disabled from the settings if you don't really like it or even a cape to show your loyalty to the server.
maybe adding a monthly reward for the most players that has voted,
I agree with this! We should at least put this server on the top list without any fancy banners that would stick out at the top of the page that cost quite a lot.
However:
then I believe some events should be done by the staff team to encourage people to make videos, post about emps somewhere , pics, I don't really know but rewards can be monthly ( you can keep the item you win for a whole month then another player win another items and so on )
The only viable "somewhere" would be on youtube, but I'm sure that nobody would find the videos, since people can look at the toplist and find the server. So those "PKing videos" are only for the community to enjoy, and not to attract other players.
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From what I remember we were on Runelocus first but none voted. People only vote if the voting rewards are ridiculously overpowered. We had none and
overpowered voting rewards would just probably end up ruining the eco in the long run.
When that didn't work we had automatic voting system which voted for you when you logged in. We ended up getting banned from Runelocus because we skyrocketed to top 5 or so lol.
Atleast I remember that being the case^
I think that a great reward would be 5 event points for voting. Most of the people do daily tasks just to get them. That's not extremely overpowered, but also aren't extremely upsetting, since you've gained 2 days worth of daily tasks in one click that you can claim everyday. That wouldn't ruin the economy either, since a few more colored items wouldn't change anything, just make non-colored armor or weapons in demand, right?
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if you try there is a small chance that maybe 1 or 2 players a week to check the server out from a voting website
This is not worth showing the entire playerbase alternatives to the game they're playing every single day for.
I believe some events should be done by the staff team to encourage people to make videos, post about emps somewhere
Stop limiting these things to the staff team, can't players do this just as easily?
rewards can be monthly ( you can keep the item you win for a whole month then another player win another items and so on )
Rewards you can't keep are the worst kind of rewards. Why work for something if you know it's gonna be taken away from you?
To get the votes, there could be a link for those who care about the server's future and are willing to spend their time voting for nothing in return. That would give this server at least a few new loyal players that this server could use. But that's just my suggestion.
Considering there's no reward, we'd probably only get votes from active forum users. With that amount of votes we'd end up very very low on the list. I don't think people that stay loyal to one game start looking for one at the bottom of a list.
From what I remember we were on Runelocus first but none voted. People only vote if the voting rewards are ridiculously overpowered. We had none and
overpowered voting rewards would just probably end up ruining the eco in the long run.
When that didn't work we had automatic voting system which voted for you when you logged in. We ended up getting banned from Runelocus because we skyrocketed to top 5 or so lol.
Atleast I remember that being the case^
You should mention this was during emps-scape. Because we did have voting rewards in world, the vp store became the ep store.
I think that a great reward would be 5 event points for voting. Most of the people do daily tasks just to get them. That's not extremely overpowered, but also aren't extremely upsetting, since you've gained 2 days worth of daily tasks in one click that you can claim everyday. That wouldn't ruin the economy either, since a few more colored items wouldn't change anything, just make non-colored armor or weapons in demand, right?
Ep store used to be the Vp store. Rewards weren't the problem.
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From what I remember we were on Runelocus first but none voted. People only vote if the voting rewards are ridiculously overpowered. We had none and
overpowered voting rewards would just probably end up ruining the eco in the long run.
When that didn't work we had automatic voting system which voted for you when you logged in. We ended up getting banned from Runelocus because we skyrocketed to top 5 or so lol.
Atleast I remember that being the case^
I think that a great reward would be 5 event points for voting. Most of the people do daily tasks just to get them. That's not extremely overpowered, but also aren't extremely upsetting, since you've gained 2 days worth of daily tasks in one click that you can claim everyday. That wouldn't ruin the economy either, since a few more colored items wouldn't change anything, just make non-colored armor or weapons in demand, right?
Imo event points shouldn't be given as a reward for voting, at least not that high amount as it can be abused easily.
We could avoid ruining the ECO just by giving the items for 1 month then take it back, same as the event that used to be hosted by Staff managers to force their team to work for a monthly reward.
Maybe top 5 people could win something ? the items can't be traded, dropped nor staked and gives 0 bonuses so it won't be used for pvming nor pking
maybe a TAG next to their names [Loyal]
Stop limiting these things to the staff team, can't players do this just as easily?
There is a big ass difference between an event hosted by a staff member and an event hosted by a player that almost 0 players will even consider joining to, unless you give them crazy ass rewards.
Rewards you can't keep are the worst kind of rewards. Why work for something if you know it's gonna be taken away from you?
Why are you playing a game that eventually will shut down and the xp you gained will be just gone ? that's the same thing
People will enjoy their items for a whole month,
Staff members activity during the event I mentioned before, is so damn high
activity after the event was shut down cus you ( if not mistaken with other staff member aka kaute ) ruined the fun by winning it 15 times -_-, back to 0.
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Why are you playing a game that eventually will shut down and the xp you gained will be just gone ? that's the same thing
People will enjoy their items for a whole month,
The game will not get shut down for quite a lot longer than a month. Kind of a stupid comparison imo.
Staff members activity during the event I mentioned before, is so damn high
activity after the event was shut down cus you ( if not mistaken with other staff member aka kaute ) ruined the fun by winning it 15 times(just gonna make this stand out because you tried to hide it) -_-, back to 0.
What event are you speaking of exactly? I can't really make sense of this part.
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Why play games at all or in fact do anything about your life if you're going to die eventually anyway? Cuz I enjoy it. If you don't enjoy something, don't do it.
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Why are you playing a game that eventually will shut down and the xp you gained will be just gone ? that's the same thing
People will enjoy their items for a whole month,
The game will not get shut down for quite a lot longer than a month. Kind of a stupid comparison imo.
Staff members activity during the event I mentioned before, is so damn high
activity after the event was shut down cus you ( if not mistaken with other staff member aka kaute ) ruined the fun by winning it 15 times(just gonna make this stand out because you tried to hide it) -_-, back to 0.
What event are you speaking of exactly? I can't really make sense of this part.
was the event called '' hall of fame '' ? I don't really remember but close to that.
the game might shut down at any moment while we are replying here by getting another warning from Jagex, Again.
Why play games at all or in fact do anything about your life if you're going to die eventually anyway? Cuz I enjoy it. If you don't enjoy something, don't do it.
That exactly what I meant by giving out that example of the game, a month is more than enough to enjoy something even if it will be taken away from you
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Wasn't Hall of Fame a staff member only event where one staff member was picked out for his/her effort put into the game during the past month? How can you even blame anyone for "winning it 15 times."
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was the event called '' hall of fame '' ? I don't really remember but close to that.
I find your theory on how I won it 15 times quite amusing, given that my total amount of months in the staff team only adds up to about 13.
Here's a list:
- Hall of fame was officially held a total of four times.
- Str8att7 won the first, C4 nerd won the second, Str8att7 won the third, I won the last.
- Hall of fame turns staff activity into a competition, which it frankly shouldn't be. It's a mandatory thing.
- Ultimately it only guarrantees the activity of one person, the winner. The people that don't end up winning end up pissed off because they wasted their effort. This was the case for me twice because I was really close both the second and third month.
- Given that it would frustrate more people than it made happy, Martin deemed it unnecessary. I agree to this fully, let it be known as the one time we actually agreed on something.
- Hall of fame has absolutely nothing to do with this topic at all, why are you bringing it up?
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Wasn't Hall of Fame a staff member only event where one staff member was picked out for his/her effort put into the game during the past month? How can you even blame anyone for "winning it 15 times."
That was more like sarcasm, didn't blame him for winning it, he / Kaute I don't remember who won it the most did actually brilliant job during the event lol
or you can call it an example where staff members worked hard just to win that event eventho the reward was only an item for a whole month
again all of that was just a reply to
Rewards you can't keep are the worst kind of rewards. Why work for something if you know it's gonna be taken away from you?
Hall of fame has absolutely nothing to do with this topic at all, why are you bringing it up?
I suggested an event similar to hall of fame, where the top voter can win an item for a month
then you came up with ' Who would work for something if you know it's gonna be taken away from you '
so I brought it up again to show an example where people actually cared about an item they had for a month and worked so hard for it.
the number I mentioned was again just to show that people work hard for temporary items, you can easily replace it with ' X ' if you gonna take numbers into account .
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Emps-World basically lacks a person who'd take care of the community. There's no one focusing on ANY kind of advertising whatsoever (Except for that unknown-to-almost-all voting link Charr posted above). Someone should definitely look into a person who'd work on advertising - advertising doesn't necessarily have to be costly. There are tens of RSPS communities out there which allow you to simply post your "thread" on the advertising section which DOES in fact get quite a lot of views on a monthly basis. Emps-World would definitely stick out from those PI and Matrix based sources which are almost all the same due to the immense amount of core-work, client-related updates and cache updates.
Regarding the previous statements about voting rewards "ruining" the economy. There is not that much to ruin - if you look at the economy right now, it's not in a good state at all. There's an overflow of items, a BIG overflow of cash (Where the hell have people gotten tens if not hundreds of billions of cash into the economy within just a few years, it's ridiculous). But that's irrelevant right now - who said you necessarily had to put rewards which could affect the economy? It's always possible to add untradable rewards (Perhaps degradable as well) which would affect the economy very little.
But seriously, you're missing a lead person for advertisement-related things. The reason I suggest this is because Thomy has done his part. Provided an enjoyable game - we should return the favour and get the game out there. Because frankly, if you ask anyone on any RSPS related community, you're not going to find many people who've heard of emps regardless of the fame it had in the past.
I've got so much to say but cannot find the right words for it.. The economy is one of the biggest issues around here though in my personal opinion - as a person who just a few days ago returned back into Emps-World. There is no fix for economy once it has gone bad. I believe the main reason it went shit this quick is due to the preserved accounts from the past. Now there's no way to recover the economy. Also, what's up with the experience rates? I haven't "tested" them but I feel like they're MUCH higher than they used to be. I'm getting millions of experience daily from just bossing - I can't recall getting this much experience in the past from bossing..?
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Regarding the previous statements about voting rewards "ruining" the economy. There is not that much to ruin - if you look at the economy right now, it's not in a good state at all. There's an overflow of items, a BIG overflow of cash (Where the hell have people gotten tens if not hundreds of billions of cash into the economy within just a few years, it's ridiculous). But that's irrelevant right now - who said you necessarily had to put rewards which could affect the economy? It's always possible to add untradable rewards (Perhaps degradable as well) which would affect the economy very little.
I agree with this. The only thing that would "fix" the economy would be the wipe of all accounts, which is not going to happen, and many people would leave if that happened. Adding untradeable rewards with stat bonuses would hurt the economy, because if you go to PK, you can retrieve the item you've lost. If it's an item without stat bonuses, I guess the people would still have their items and they'd have it on for like 30 minutes just to show off and then they'd basically forget about it. That's why I think that 5 event points OR 25 emps credits per day is the best reward we could get without having a huge impact on the economy.
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Regarding the previous statements about voting rewards "ruining" the economy. There is not that much to ruin - if you look at the economy right now, it's not in a good state at all. There's an overflow of items, a BIG overflow of cash (Where the hell have people gotten tens if not hundreds of billions of cash into the economy within just a few years, it's ridiculous). But that's irrelevant right now - who said you necessarily had to put rewards which could affect the economy? It's always possible to add untradable rewards (Perhaps degradable as well) which would affect the economy very little.
I agree with this. The only thing that would "fix" the economy would be the wipe of all accounts, which is not going to happen, and many people would leave if that happened. Adding untradeable rewards with stat bonuses would hurt the economy, because if you go to PK, you can retrieve the item you've lost. If it's an item without stat bonuses, I guess the people would still have their items and they'd have it on for like 30 minutes just to show off and then they'd basically forget about it. That's why I think that 5 event points OR 25 emps credits per day is the best reward we could get without having a huge impact on the economy.
If you die in wilderness with untradables you can go and pick them up? That's stupid. Why was it changed to this..? I feel like the direction the game is heading to is the same as RS3. Make everything easier than it used to be because these weak players cannot handle the idea of losing something.. Everything is about gaining in emps right now, this isn't right. A proper economy states actual loss as well not constant gaining. Ugh this is something I strongly despise right now.
I expected untradable shit to disappear completely upon death - that was the whole point of what I said there.
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One of the issues that I have been discussing recently , and it ended with nothing.
I have also asked for Thomy's reply about this and he is not caring at all , In my opinion , no one can help emps expect for it's owner.
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Just to clear things up: since the last update, every untradable item that would be dropped in PK, is alched and dropped as cash instead. So no, you can no longer pick up untradables from wilderness.
Also, wipe wouldn't benefit the economy. It would just turn back time and happen all over again. Yes it's partly our fault by allowing to recover accounts from Emps-Scape, but even without that the combat levelling is very quick, which means that high-level content would be available fairly fast. Look at Jp for example: he maxed an ironman within 2 months, with just the combat and slayer it's even quicker.
So no, bank wipes and account resets wouldn't fix it. It's just a temporary solution, which would piss off most players and make them quit.
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Just to clear things up: since the last update, every untradable item that would be dropped in PK, is alched and dropped as cash instead. So no, you can no longer pick up untradables from wilderness.
Also, wipe wouldn't benefit the economy. It would just turn back time and happen all over again. Yes it's partly our fault by allowing to recover accounts from Emps-Scape, but even without that the combat levelling is very quick, which means that high-level content would be available fairly fast. Look at Jp for example: he maxed an ironman within 2 months, with just the combat and slayer it's even quicker.
So no, bank wipes and account resets wouldn't fix it. It's just a temporary solution, which would piss off most players and make them quit.
Precisely, that's another thing that has actually bothered me. Why is everything so easy nowadays? One of the key elements of Emps was that it was far more difficult than other servers - right now it's not that different from the rest anymore and that MAY be one of the reasons why it's no longer as popular either. Back in Scape before all these experience boosts (Such as double experience weekends) there was a carved-in-stone experience rate which was 4x RS. Rn I feel like the experience rates range from 6-10X RS. Back then it used to take nearly a year to max an account - you cannot say that anymore unless you're playing a few hours per week basically >.>.
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Actually some skills were faster or still are rougly the same speed. Melees are as fast for example. Runecrafting on the other hand is much slower compared to Scape and
herblore from 92(?) to 99 literally took you 15 minutes to get by making sara brews.
4xrs xp rates is VERY far away from the XP rates emps has ever had. *cough* combination runes *cough*
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Actually some skills were faster or still are rougly the same speed. Melees are as fast for example. Runecrafting on the other hand is much slower compared to Scape and
herblore from 92(?) to 99 literally took you 15 minutes to get by making sara brews.
4xrs xp rates is VERY far away from the XP rates emps has ever had. *cough* combination runes *cough*
I don't know what you're talking about to be honest. Back when I played it was indeed 4x RS at least for the combat part, melee specifically. Right now it feels like it's 10x+.
I can remember it crisp clear when double experience weekends first game, that people would speak of 8x XP sometimes instead of "double XP". I've had several people tell me that Emps never had 4x xp.. I'm starting to question my life right now. I don't know too much about skilling as I never did that much though, only certain skills (RC and herb were not within those skills).
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Actually some skills were faster or still are rougly the same speed. Melees are as fast for example. Runecrafting on the other hand is much slower compared to Scape and
herblore from 92(?) to 99 literally took you 15 minutes to get by making sara brews.
4xrs xp rates is VERY far away from the XP rates emps has ever had. *cough* combination runes *cough*
I don't know what you're talking about to be honest. Back when I played it was indeed 4x RS at least for the combat part, melee specifically. Right now it feels like it's 10x+.
I can remember it crisp clear when double experience weekends first game, that people would speak of 8x XP sometimes instead of "double XP". I've had several people tell me that Emps never had 4x xp.. I'm starting to question my life right now. I don't know too much about skilling as I never did that much though, only certain skills (RC and herb were not within those skills).
I might know why does it feel like that. I remember back in 2010 when I was young, I was training 100% focused on the screen and kills, and I got it in 30 minutes, and that's pretty much the exact time of training you require. The reason why it feels faster right now is because most of the people were a little bit clueless back then. People were actually having fun, but getting experience slower. So that might've had some impact.
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Actually some skills were faster or still are rougly the same speed. Melees are as fast for example. Runecrafting on the other hand is much slower compared to Scape and
herblore from 92(?) to 99 literally took you 15 minutes to get by making sara brews.
4xrs xp rates is VERY far away from the XP rates emps has ever had. *cough* combination runes *cough*
I don't know what you're talking about to be honest. Back when I played it was indeed 4x RS at least for the combat part, melee specifically. Right now it feels like it's 10x+.
I can remember it crisp clear when double experience weekends first game, that people would speak of 8x XP sometimes instead of "double XP". I've had several people tell me that Emps never had 4x xp.. I'm starting to question my life right now. I don't know too much about skilling as I never did that much though, only certain skills (RC and herb were not within those skills).
Lowest combat XP per hit has ever been is 40 xp per hit which is no where close to 4xrs. That would be 16 xp per hit.
These are some XP rates from 2009 I was able to find. There is no fixed 4xrs.
Fishing: http://imgur.com/Sm2iQKh
Herblore: http://imgur.com/INSfBmu
Mining: http://imgur.com/O0j4jEB
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I remember when there was vote system added into the game, and I don't know why would you remove it. This server needs to have more players joining the game than quitting.
https://emps-world.net/wiki/Voting
How many times have I posted this link?
Exactly three times.
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It's more about people not staying, regardless if they're new or not.
I remember when there was vote system added into the game, and I don't know why would you remove it.
Because it simply doesn't work.
If you check the Runelocus rsps list, there are maximum of 5 servers with more players than Emps has, the most active having around 400 player daily peaks. The second most active has 200 players if even that and the rest are in the same category as emps with 100-200 players. The most successful ones are pre-EOC servers. As long as majority of our player base is nostalgia QQ'ers, we'll have no chance of growing anywhere. The sponsored servers are even more dead than Emps is.
Voting will not achieve anything because people are no longer actively searching for private servers as they did 5-10 years ago because OSRS exists. It's a waste of resources.
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It's more about people not staying, regardless if they're new or not.
I remember when there was vote system added into the game, and I don't know why would you remove it.
Because it simply doesn't work.
If you check the Runelocus rsps list, there are maximum of 5 servers with more players than Emps has, the most active having around 400 player daily peaks. The second most active has 200 players if even that and the rest are in the same category as emps with 100-200 players. The most successful ones are pre-EOC servers. As long as majority of our player base is nostalgia QQ'ers, we'll have no chance of growing anywhere. The sponsored servers are even more dead than Emps is.
Voting will not achieve anything because people are no longer actively searching for private servers as they did 5-10 years ago because OSRS exists. It's a waste of resources.
Your information on the other servers is outdated by quite a lot. I'm not going to name the servers unless I'm specifically requested to (I believe it's against the rules to advertise like that) but there is one server peaking at slightly over 1k players, another two servers have well over 600 players at most times. There are quite a lot of servers that have far more players than Emps. Even some servers which basically have had no effort put into them whatsoever, simple downloads from RSPS downloads sections and instantly hosted - reaching over 50 players. That's the worrisome part about Emps right now, I feel like most of the staff has given up because the methods they're used to do not work anymore. Well, here's some news for you. Things change, try applying new methods..
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I feel like most of the staff has given up because the methods they're used to do not work anymore.
The function of the staff team is to enforce the rules. Nothing more.
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I feel like most of the staff has given up because the methods they're used to do not work anymore.
The function of the staff team is to enforce the rules. Nothing more.
I was referring to the staff as the entire staff, including Thomy. Who else would be handling this type of stuff if not the very staff members..? Thomy is also a part of staff FYI.
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I feel like most of the staff has given up because the methods they're used to do not work anymore.
The function of the staff team is to enforce the rules. Nothing more.
I was referring to the staff as the entire staff, including Thomy. Who else would be handling this type of stuff if not the very staff members..? Thomy is also a part of staff FYI.
Don't get cocky with Charr. He will destroy you FYI.
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I was referring to the staff as the entire staff, including Thomy. Who else would be handling this type of stuff if not the very staff members..? Thomy is also a part of staff FYI.
The staff team (meaning anyone that isn't high admin) enforces the rules, that's all they're responsible for. Thomy is the owner, his responsibilities are to do whatever the hell he pleases, he's not part of the staff team. Martin is the staff manager, his responsibility is to manage the staff team. Paty is a high admin responsible for account recovery and things related to that.
Granted I know we don't have FAQ topics explaining this type of stuff, but it isn't rocket science. Considering the functionality of the staff team is already brought into question on occasion, I do not think it's a smart idea to throw more responsibilities at them.
All new players need is a place to ask questions, and they have that. It could be improved upon, but it's not a life threatening situation. You could quite literally improve their situation by helping them yourself. So why do you panic like you've got no influence on the situation?
Growth is a gradual process. You can not do something and expect to gain a shit ton of players out of nowhere. So long as we get new players, we will grow, the amount does not matter as long as they keep playing. As such, that should be our focus.
You've been back for four days now, I think it's about time you calm the hell down. Stop acting like the server's caught on fire, Thomy's knocked out on the floor and Martin is running around screaming 'the end is nigh' with his pants on his head. This isn't the case at all. We've experienced visible growth in the last month. We've gotten a considerable amount of donations due to dxp scrolls being made tradable. I don't see the cause for worry.
Given your earlier mishap about experience rates, I recommend you spend some more time doing research before you discuss these kinds of topics. This is purely a recommendation though, you're completely free to discuss what you want.
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I was referring to the staff as the entire staff, including Thomy. Who else would be handling this type of stuff if not the very staff members..? Thomy is also a part of staff FYI.
The staff team (meaning anyone that isn't high admin) enforces the rules, that's all they're responsible for. Thomy is the owner, his responsibilities are to do whatever the hell he pleases, he's not part of the staff team. Martin is the staff manager, his responsibility is to manage the staff team. Paty is a high admin responsible for account recovery and things related to that.
Granted I know we don't have FAQ topics explaining this type of stuff, but it isn't rocket science. Considering the functionality of the staff team is already brought into question on occasion, I do not think it's a smart idea to throw more responsibilities at them.
All new players need is a place to ask questions, and they have that. It could be improved upon, but it's not a life threatening situation. You could quite literally improve their situation by helping them yourself. So why do you panic like you've got no influence on the situation?
Growth is a gradual process. You can not do something and expect to gain a shit ton of players out of nowhere. So long as we get new players, we will grow, the amount does not matter as long as they keep playing. As such, that should be our focus.
You've been back for four days now, I think it's about time you calm the hell down. Stop acting like the server's caught on fire, Thomy's knocked out on the floor and Martin is running around screaming 'the end is nigh' with his pants on his head. This isn't the case at all. We've experienced visible growth in the last month. We've gotten a considerable amount of donations due to dxp scrolls being made tradable. I don't see the cause for worry.
Given your earlier mishap about experience rates, I recommend you spend some more time doing research before you discuss these kinds of topics. This is purely a recommendation though, you're completely free to discuss what you want.
Didn't thoroughly read what you said, can't be bothered with that much text tbh lol. But Thomy is a part of staff. Who do you think picks the staff managers?
Here's a quick "explanation" of staff that I could find:
to be or provide the people who work for an organization.
Of course it's provided in a slightly different context but you'd have to be an idiot not to include the founder of the 'organization'(in this case).
You seem to have the idea that I'm super excited or mad or some shit, no, I couldn't really give a rats ass about any of this shit, I'm only trying to help you people out here because you've obviously all given up.. If you'd like me to stop, just say the word. Doesn't bother me one bit.
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Called it.