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Title: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Best Ever In on October 13, 2016, 11:52:17 am
Hello boys,

I am and oldschool Emps player and I just wanted to say that this server is dead... Seems like Thomy is trying way to hard, like GE, wings and other new shit. I understand he/we want more players, but for example me and some other players left because of these new updates/graphics.
PvP is completely dead, corrupt armour is so op against pures. GE is shit, I used to like standing in fally and selling my shit much more. So pretty much what I\m trying to say that I/we dont want new shit. I want old Emps-Scape. *removed*

So tell me your opinion, what do you want, did you like old game more?
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Magecrune on October 13, 2016, 12:46:15 pm
If corrupt armour is op, make a feedback thread and if everybody agrees, they will be adjusted.
Why do you dislike GE? It's very convenient for both selling and buying items. You could always just stand in GE, if you don't want to use it.

Old Emps will never return. We will not revert back to older graphics. This is not the reason why we have a lower playerbase ;) If you really think otherwise, you're just blinded by your own nostalgia.

I prefer the current version. Runs much more smoothly and is less buggy. Content-wise it's better as well.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Drugs on October 13, 2016, 01:57:50 pm
Short and sweet

1) people dont suggest shit regards pking, but constantly expect new updates (newsflash crying in wilderness to your mates dont work)
2) Grand exchange probably one of the best updates this server ever had, you can still sell your shit the old way - fact that its harder now shows how efficent GE is
3) Old/New is a dead end argument, probably one of the biggest reasons people who dont suggest shit is that they hide behind the argument
4) Yes the server is "dying" but I can always see from these threads that there are people who want to continue playing, but go back to the old routine of crying and not suggesting shit
5) If the server is dying why cant Thomy just update it however he likes, more challenging code etc - you expect Thomy to save this server in a heartbeat but thats not always how shit works
6) Majority of people who cry blame it on new updates, the reason behind crying is the fact that we lost players; newsflash people who quit also suggested updates that we currently have ingame- they just quit because of other reasons

Theres loads of players who simply quit, and not because of updates and you cant do shit about it

Wasnt that short and sweet afterall but its time to accept the direction this server is headed and make the most of it
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Ahrim Ghost on October 15, 2016, 05:32:01 am
Thomy is doing a great job at keeping the game relevant and entertaining. The simple truth is rsps's in general are slowly fading away since the release of 07 and the fact that the generation that played the game have simply grown out of it. Like it or not it is what it is.

Just thought I'd add this but here's the stats for "runescape private server" searches on google trends.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2dm9yzb.png)

Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Freestuffyay on October 15, 2016, 07:34:56 am
Thomy is doing a great job at keeping the game relevant and entertaining. The simple truth is rsps's in general are slowly fading away since the release of 07 and the fact that the generation that played the game have simply grown out of it. Like it or not it is what it is.

Just thought I'd add this but here's the stats for "runescape private server" searches on google trends.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2dm9yzb.png)
People who play private servers are usually the ones who didn't want to spend money on membership but now they're all older and €5 a month isn't hard to come by
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Someone12116 on October 15, 2016, 09:39:14 am
Thomy is doing a great job at keeping the game relevant and entertaining. The simple truth is rsps's in general are slowly fading away since the release of 07 and the fact that the generation that played the game have simply grown out of it. Like it or not it is what it is.

Just thought I'd add this but here's the stats for "runescape private server" searches on google trends.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2dm9yzb.png)
People who play private servers are usually the ones who didn't want to spend money on membership but now they're all older and €5 a month isn't hard to come by

And bonds also exist, making people able to pay for membership with in-game GP.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Drugs on October 15, 2016, 11:21:02 am
Thomy is doing a great job at keeping the game relevant and entertaining. The simple truth is rsps's in general are slowly fading away since the release of 07 and the fact that the generation that played the game have simply grown out of it. Like it or not it is what it is.

Just thought I'd add this but here's the stats for "runescape private server" searches on google trends.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2dm9yzb.png)
People who play private servers are usually the ones who didn't want to spend money on membership but now they're all older and €5 a month isn't hard to come by

And bonds also exist, making people able to pay for membership with in-game GP.
And osrs gp is cheaper to buy then emps gp
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Happy on October 16, 2016, 03:45:57 pm
Yeah this game is dead , there was alot of shit added that changed the game too much , GE was the stupidiest idea ever , wings were a shit idea , random armor , graphics updates , Gods swords are not what they used to be , i remember when everybody wanted gs but not everybody had enough money to afford , Santa hat (the og) is  500k like wtf ... game died , like srsly. Its not because people grew out of it , its mostly because the moderators of different RS servers change too much, adding new random shit that nobody realy wants or need , like GE, Corrupt armor , wings and all that shit , all people needed in emps comunity were more skills yet you added random shit ... and this community will never grow... thats why so many people left and are not coming back...
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Drugs on October 16, 2016, 05:55:58 pm
Yeah this game is dead , there was alot of shit added that changed the game too much , GE was the stupidiest idea ever , wings were a shit idea , random armor , graphics updates , Gods swords are not what they used to be , i remember when everybody wanted gs but not everybody had enough money to afford , Santa hat (the og) is  500k like wtf ... game died , like srsly. Its not because people grew out of it , its mostly because the moderators of different RS servers change too much, adding new random shit that nobody realy wants or need , like GE, Corrupt armor , wings and all that shit , all people needed in emps comunity were more skills yet you added random shit ... and this community will never grow... thats why so many people left and are not coming back...
What if I told you we had wings like 5 years ago ???
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on October 16, 2016, 07:04:08 pm
- Everything that's in game now was suggested or voted upon by the community
- Ge is in no way "the stupidiest idea ever", it's the same thing as standing there and spamming your autotyper, except you don't have to stand and make no progress for three hours.
- Godswords are cheap because of stakes hoarding massive amounts of them, then selling them all at once.

People need to educate themselves ffs
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Ameer on October 16, 2016, 07:08:17 pm
Yeah this game is dead , there was alot of shit added that changed the game too much , GE was the stupidiest idea ever , wings were a shit idea , random armor , graphics updates , Gods swords are not what they used to be , i remember when everybody wanted gs but not everybody had enough money to afford , Santa hat (the og) is  500k like wtf ... game died , like srsly. Its not because people grew out of it , its mostly because the moderators of different RS servers change too much, adding new random shit that nobody realy wants or need , like GE, Corrupt armor , wings and all that shit , all people needed in emps comunity were more skills yet you added random shit ... and this community will never grow... thats why so many people left and are not coming back...
What if I told you we had wings like 5 years ago ???


I miss dem days when Black and white wings were released


Also everything that's in game now was suggested or voted upon by the community

People need to educate themselves ffs

Nop
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on October 16, 2016, 07:14:41 pm
Yeah this game is dead , there was alot of shit added that changed the game too much , GE was the stupidiest idea ever , wings were a shit idea , random armor , graphics updates , Gods swords are not what they used to be , i remember when everybody wanted gs but not everybody had enough money to afford , Santa hat (the og) is  500k like wtf ... game died , like srsly. Its not because people grew out of it , its mostly because the moderators of different RS servers change too much, adding new random shit that nobody realy wants or need , like GE, Corrupt armor , wings and all that shit , all people needed in emps comunity were more skills yet you added random shit ... and this community will never grow... thats why so many people left and are not coming back...
What if I told you we had wings like 5 years ago ???


I miss dem days when Black and white wings were released


Also everything that's in game now was suggested or voted upon by the community

People need to educate themselves ffs

Nop

People voted for Ge, for vesta/etc way back ???
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Freestuffyay on October 16, 2016, 07:18:28 pm
- Everything that's in game now was suggested or voted upon by the community

Suggested or voted upon by the 10 players who check the suggestions and ideas section
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Drugs on October 16, 2016, 09:47:17 pm
- Everything that's in game now was suggested or voted upon by the community

Suggested or voted upon by the 10 players who check the suggestions and ideas section
Cant really complain if youre not taking part of anything and then cry later, I suggested awhile back for Thomy to be more active but even majority of that goes to deaf ears
Also people who vote for shit are ones who try to balance new items etc, not the ones who dont take apart of anything and only complain later

But its true, how can you tell what majority wants, if majority doesnt want to share their thoughts ; , ;

It happens to be that community is split in two, 1 half came back to new server with new ideas and thoughts and are willingly to suggest them, and the other half expect no change whatsoever and dont take part in anything
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Pker Bro X4 on November 08, 2016, 09:54:48 pm
Maybe because the majority of the core group who always suck each others balls(the rich, the old, the staff, the Mr. Know-it-alls) in this game are assholes. No one wants to play in a toxic community. Pretty easy to tell this community isn't the friendliest, just watch how people interact at GE or in wildy or...OR...explore the forums. lol
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Drugs on November 08, 2016, 10:32:13 pm
Maybe because the majority of the core group who always suck each others balls(the rich, the old, the staff, the Mr. Know-it-alls) in this game are assholes. No one wants to play in a toxic community. Pretty easy to tell this community isn't the friendliest, just watch how people interact at GE or in wildy or...OR...explore the forums. lol
If you're surrounded by assholes everywhere you go, maybe you're the asshole?
(http://i.imgur.com/Bv7OcZ8.gif)
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Pker Bro X4 on November 08, 2016, 11:08:52 pm
Maybe because the majority of the core group who always suck each others balls(the rich, the old, the staff, the Mr. Know-it-alls) in this game are assholes. No one wants to play in a toxic community. Pretty easy to tell this community isn't the friendliest, just watch how people interact at GE or in wildy or...OR...explore the forums. lol
If you're surrounded by assholes everywhere you go, maybe you're the asshole?
(http://i.imgur.com/Bv7OcZ8.gif)
Prime example of the old, the staff(ex-staff), and the Mr. Know-it-all right here. ---->Drugs. Thanks for volunteering yourself. Can never post something without another player making a sarcastic question and/or comment which is why no one wants to be involved in the forums/suggestions community.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Drugs on November 08, 2016, 11:28:37 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOPE
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Pker Bro X4 on November 08, 2016, 11:45:25 pm
If you're surrounded by assholes everywhere you go, maybe you're the asshole?
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Prime example of the old, the staff(ex-staff), and the Mr. Know-it-all right here. ---->Drugs. Thanks for volunteering yourself. Can never post something without another player making a sarcastic question and/or comment.
[/quote]Ok I'll bite.

You blame the toxic community for the downfall of this server, but fail to see that only reason to fix it is to either quit yourself or hope that every person that you don't like quits.
You seem to stereotype alot, and missjudge people so by your logic alot of the players that have quit were toxic. Now you have another problem, server is dying because people who you don't like just quit.

If alot of players are toxic, it still don't explain how is that the reason why people quit. You might think that only people left in this community are toxic and the good ones have already quit. That makes me question why are you still here?

There's people playing atm that have played for 5+ years, going back to when we had 250+ players. For the sake of the argument lets assume that most of them were/are toxic too. But then how could we have 250 players in the past if we had those same toxic players in the past that we have now.


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Again, Mr. Know-it-all, trying to make it seem that my suggestion/opinion is the single dumbest reason why the community is failing. You're making my statement turn a 180 degree of what I am trying to say. I'm not going to argue with you because I'm not a Mr. Know-it-all who always has to be right.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Charr on November 08, 2016, 11:57:59 pm
Again, Mr. Know-it-all, trying to make it seem that my suggestion/opinion is the single dumbest reason why the community is failing. You're making my statement turn a 180 degree of what I am trying to say. I'm not going to argue with you because I'm not a Mr. Know-it-all who always has to be right.
May I ask where you draw the line between someone giving you criticism and someone being a know-it-all? Because you're leaving the impression that everyone that is against your point is a know-it-all.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Pker Bro X4 on November 09, 2016, 12:02:33 am
Again, Mr. Know-it-all, trying to make it seem that my suggestion/opinion is the single dumbest reason why the community is failing. You're making my statement turn a 180 degree of what I am trying to say. I'm not going to argue with you because I'm not a Mr. Know-it-all who always has to be right.
May I ask where you draw the line between someone giving you criticism and someone being a know-it-all? Because you're leaving the impression that everyone that is against your point is a know-it-all.

Everyone? or do you mean the one person who responded to opinionated suggestion on why the community was bad. He responded with a sarcastic question and then made it seem that he knows what my suggestion is all about. If you want to discuss it then feel free to message me.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Drugs on November 09, 2016, 12:03:14 am
nope not again cbf nononono
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Pker Bro X4 on November 09, 2016, 12:09:11 am
I feel bad for writing a long ass text now trying to argue with you, knowing that you're actually stupid.
Discussion isn't about stating what you want to and not taking other people into consideration.

Maybe I'm wrong about stating that you can't fix this server back to 250 people, or that you can't please everyone.
But fuck If I ever write a long ass post please just try to consider my opinion as have I considered yours. And please don't try to bring me down with you as you're about to leave clueless again.

Edit sick quote bro



You considered my opinion pretty much by saying it was stupid. How could I consider yours? You keep defending yourself by saying I'm stupid. Stupid or not, I can state my opinion and I wasn't talking about what I want.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Charr on November 09, 2016, 12:19:49 am
Everyone? or do you mean the one person who responded to opinionated suggestion on why the community was bad. He responded with a sarcastic question and then made it seem that he knows what my suggestion is all about. If you want to discuss it then feel free to message me.
I meant that you're leaving the impression that everyone that is against your point is a know-it-all.

You considered my opinion pretty much by saying it was stupid. How could I consider yours? You keep defending yourself by saying I'm stupid. Stupid or not, I can state my opinion and I wasn't talking about what I want.
Yes, he said he thinks it was stupid. He also stated why he thought it was stupid. He read what you wrote and gave his opinion on it. That's quite okay in a discussion, if you don't have any properly backed up counterarguments to that, then he wins the discussion.

These things have been discussed again and again, yet no one that makes these kind of topics seems to have anything else to say than 'the updates killed the game'. Exactly which part of your first post is backed up by facts? Isn't what you wrote purely subjective? I know English isn't that easy of a language, but you're gonna have to do better than this if you want to express yourself.

Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Waylander on November 09, 2016, 12:25:58 am
RSPS playercount has decreased with about 70% over the last 2-3 years due to various causes. EMPS is no exception to that happening and in no way events specific to EMPS contributed to this loss.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Pker Bro X4 on November 09, 2016, 12:34:11 am
Everyone? or do you mean the one person who responded to opinionated suggestion on why the community was bad. He responded with a sarcastic question and then made it seem that he knows what my suggestion is all about. If you want to discuss it then feel free to message me.
I meant that you're leaving the impression that everyone that is against your point is a know-it-all.

You considered my opinion pretty much by saying it was stupid. How could I consider yours? You keep defending yourself by saying I'm stupid. Stupid or not, I can state my opinion and I wasn't talking about what I want.
Yes, he said he thinks it was stupid. He also stated why he thought it was stupid. He read what you wrote and gave his opinion on it. That's quite okay in a discussion, if you don't have any properly backed up counterarguments to that, then he wins the discussion.

These things have been discussed again and again, yet no one that makes these kind of topics seems to have anything else to say than 'the updates killed the game'. Exactly which part of your first post is backed up by facts? Isn't what you wrote purely subjective? I know English isn't that easy of a language, but you're gonna have to do better than this if you want to express yourself.



I'll make sure to have a file full of screenshots, history, player database information, and all of that good stuff the next time I reply to a statement. I'm being sarcastic now, but not all people are reporters and journalists and do not major in English. I apologize if this offends you, but I'm not any of those so no--I am unable to post facts and details about my opinion.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: 321fail on November 09, 2016, 12:36:52 am
Charr, are you sucking up to Drugs? :D
I think there are too many beggars. Too many people want to get rich quick and if not, they simply leave the game. On another note, I agree with Pker Bro with the toxic community as well. Every time people try to buy or sell things, the first comment is typically gtfo or some other stupid words. Anyways, I don't feel like talking more because it's just stoking the fire and yall probs gon flame me for dis. And why yall fighting on forums. Yall explaining to each other how the other is wrong and say some stupid sh*t. Yall da ones bein toxic so das a prime example right der. And now I'm ranting so I'll stop
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Il Skill L on November 09, 2016, 10:53:11 am
Charr, are you sucking up to Drugs? :D
I think there are too many beggars. Too many people want to get rich quick and if not, they simply leave the game. On another note, I agree with Pker Bro with the toxic community as well. Every time people try to buy or sell things, the first comment is typically gtfo or some other stupid words. Anyways, I don't feel like talking more because it's just stoking the fire and yall probs gon flame me for dis. And why yall fighting on forums. Yall explaining to each other how the other is wrong and say some stupid sh*t. Yall da ones bein toxic so das a prime example right der. And now I'm ranting so I'll stop
All ya need in this game is 2-3 friends to skill/boss with and just talk to. Buying/selling is done via GE and requires no communication if you can't handle it.
Also nobody is being toxic in the forums towards people who actually speak some english and have common sense. We are being "toxic" mostly through sarcastic jokes which the stupid ones probably don't even understand. (e.g. people who suggest old graphics back in a separate server, they're just dumbfucks and there's not much we can do about that)
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Someone12116 on November 09, 2016, 01:14:13 pm
RSPS playercount has decreased with about 70% over the last 2-3 years due to various causes. EMPS is no exception to that happening and in no way events specific to EMPS contributed to this loss.

/thread

Idk why this is even open anymore.
Title: Re: Emps Scape/World is dead
Post by: Thomy on November 09, 2016, 01:36:12 pm
There is no more value in this discussion. The question has been answered and it's about to turn into a flame war.