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Emps-World => Feedback => Topic started by: Fireblast12 on January 29, 2016, 06:12:28 pm
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Hi,
when I go and rek people at spectrals, they can just stand and take the aggro from spectrals without me being able to attack em.
spectrals won't hit crap in 10seconds and they can just close their client, ez escape..
another issue there is, is the pj timer.
When you are fcing a random ranger can intercept you because you aren't being under attack, is that meant to be like that?
if not, can you change the pj timer that it works for both parties in a fight, so if I fc someone noone can intercept me since I would be classified as under attack.
ps: not very nice people that will cry that they die in wilderness, don't enter wilderness..
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ps: not very nice people that will cry that they die in wilderness, don't enter wilderness..
ps: not very nice people that will cry that they can't kill PvMers, don't enter wilderness..
Don't be so stupid by getting outsmarted by the most stupid people of the whole damn community. All you PKers do nowadays is cry. If you hate everything in Wilderness so much then quit the game and do the whole goddamn server a favor.
Basically what you're saying there is that PvMers should just accept the fact that they get killed and not get upset about it but you PKers can cry about everything. What a nice hypocrite attitude you have there.
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ps: not very nice people that will cry that they die in wilderness, don't enter wilderness..
ps: not very nice people that will cry that they can't kill PvMers, don't enter wilderness..
Don't be so stupid by getting outsmarted by the most stupid people of the whole damn community. All you PKers do nowadays is cry. If you hate everything in Wilderness so much then quit the game and do the whole goddamn server a favor.
Basically what you're saying there is that PvMers should just accept the fact that they get killed and not get upset about it but you PKers can cry about everything. What a nice hypocrite attitude you have there.
lol
thanks for your input I guess
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ps: not very nice people that will cry that they die in wilderness, don't enter wilderness..
ps: not very nice people that will cry that they can't kill PvMers, don't enter wilderness..
Don't be so stupid by getting outsmarted by the most stupid people of the whole damn community. All you PKers do nowadays is cry. If you hate everything in Wilderness so much then quit the game and do the whole goddamn server a favor.
Basically what you're saying there is that PvMers should just accept the fact that they get killed and not get upset about it but you PKers can cry about everything. What a nice hypocrite attitude you have there.
lol
thanks for your input I guess
Now you may wonder why I'm so offensive towards you? Well, that's because you're whole feedback is at the offensive side. Wanna think what the whole community actually thinks when you suggest shit?
thanks for your input I guess
Or in other words, nobody cares.
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ps: not very nice people that will cry that they die in wilderness, don't enter wilderness..
ps: not very nice people that will cry that they can't kill PvMers, don't enter wilderness..
Don't be so stupid by getting outsmarted by the most stupid people of the whole damn community. All you PKers do nowadays is cry. If you hate everything in Wilderness so much then quit the game and do the whole goddamn server a favor.
Basically what you're saying there is that PvMers should just accept the fact that they get killed and not get upset about it but you PKers can cry about everything. What a nice hypocrite attitude you have there.
lol
thanks for your input I guess
Now you may wonder why I'm so offensive towards you? Well, that's because you're whole feedback is at the offensive side. Wanna think what the whole community actually thinks when you suggest shit?
thanks for your input I guess
Or in other words, nobody cares.
can you just refrain from posting..
Your arguments have no logical side to it , keep your bias to yourself..
It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.
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ps: not very nice people that will cry that they die in wilderness, don't enter wilderness..
not very nice people Pk-ers who cant even kill some noob at Spectrals shouldnt enter wilderness either.
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10/10 intro ;D
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ps: not very nice people that will cry that they die in wilderness, don't enter wilderness..
ps: not very nice people that will cry that they can't kill PvMers, don't enter wilderness..
Don't be so stupid by getting outsmarted by the most stupid people of the whole damn community. All you PKers do nowadays is cry. If you hate everything in Wilderness so much then quit the game and do the whole goddamn server a favor.
Basically what you're saying there is that PvMers should just accept the fact that they get killed and not get upset about it but you PKers can cry about everything. What a nice hypocrite attitude you have there.
lol
thanks for your input I guess
Now you may wonder why I'm so offensive towards you? Well, that's because you're whole feedback is at the offensive side. Wanna think what the whole community actually thinks when you suggest shit?
thanks for your input I guess
Or in other words, nobody cares.
can you just refrain from posting..
Your arguments have no logical side to it , keep your bias to yourself..
It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.
75% of your so called feedback is a monologue of your PK trip. That's no feedback. Look at how Lars or Drugs do their feedback. They don't call every person who dies in Wilderness not very nice people. They tell how to fix a problem; that's feedback. You just report a problem; that's just stating the obvious. There's a major difference. And if you think ''can you change the pj timer'' is feedback then you're more braindead than I ever thought.
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PKers nearly made a huge mob fight because of the pj timer, and yes trio has a point.
PKers do cry everyday for no basic reasons(not all of them)
Plus i would dare to step my feet into the wilderness because i know what shit i'm into, and i've escaped SO many fcers rangers and hybrids.. It's not about not very nice people, It's all about thinking and outplays.
I disagree, I find the pj timer fine.
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The pj timer is supposed to work like that. You aren't classified as under attack if you aren't being attacked, this seems pretty logical to me.
Keep your feedback topics clean, for the love of god.
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The pj timer is supposed to work like that. You aren't classified as under attack if you aren't being attacked, this seems pretty logical to me.
Keep your feedback topics clean, for the love of god.
Nvm i see your point.
However, See Char even knows ;p
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You are in wilderness fighting 1vs1, your opponent is out of food,so he stops attacking you, then his mate comes and rushes you since you aren't under attack anymore..
Is this logical?
People that were insulted with my ps..
I said that people that die and complain about their death are not very nice people.
I didnt call everyone that dies a not very nice person..
Skelettrio,refrain from posting if the only thing you can say is full of hate and bias..
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Pj update has more advantages for deep wildy pking than disadvanatges.
But on topic, it is very silly how you cannot pj people of npc's (especially spectrals because you can't pj the npc of the player either). Like he said they just stop attacking and x log, how is that by any means considered fair.
And with regard to the pkers 'crying' because they can't kill pvmers, it is totally justified in my opinion. Currently there are 2 guaranteed ways to escape from any solo pker (one being x logging, the other being zgs speccing). And if that's not enough there's a escape from the wilderness 30 steps south of the spectral area, even when tbed.
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Pj update has more advantages for deep wildy pking than disadvanatges.
But on topic, it is very silly how you cannot pj people of npc's (especially spectrals because you can't pj the npc of the player either). Like he said they just stop attacking and x log, how is that by any means considered fair.
And with not so smart to the pkers 'crying' because they can't kill pvmers, it is totally justified in my opinion. Currently there are 2 guaranteed ways to escape from any solo pker (one being x logging, the other being zgs speccing). And if that's not enough there's a escape from the wilderness 30 steps south of the spectral area, even when tbed.
Escaping from 1v1 is really easy indeed...
And yeah, it is stupid that you are not able to attack player while (s)he is killing monsters in wild 1v1 combat zones.. There is just noway how you could die at spectrals or green dragons at the moment.
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
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there should seriously be a whole new section dedicated to wilderness feedback.
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there should seriously be a whole new section dedicated to wilderness feedback.
you're irrelevant stfu
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Like 2 months ago i saw you hunting people in deep every day :-*
And what is point having any npc in wild if they are not risky? high reward should come with high risk :-\
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
the fact that you don't care about this feature since it doesn't hurt you in anyway doesn't mean that you have to be a not very nice person..
The escaping is far too easy, it shouldn't be like that, most of the people with a brain agreed with me..
I'm not asking that escaping would be impossible, I'm just asking for a balance between easy escaping and hard escaping..
is it legit I can pj from other players, but I can't pj from a spectral?
I don't care if they do want fight or not, they entered wilderness so they should be prepared for a fight.
High risk high reward...
Now again, if you won't say something close to intelligent, I would like to ask you to stay away from the topic and go bash a wall or some crap to go away with your frustrations, luv <3
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
the fact that you don't care about this feature since it doesn't hurt you in anyway doesn't mean that you have to be a not very nice person..
The escaping is far too easy, it shouldn't be like that, most of the people with a brain agreed with me..
I'm not asking that escaping would be impossible, I'm just asking for a balance between easy escaping and hard escaping..
is it legit I can pj from other players, but I can't pj from a spectral?
I don't care if they do want fight or not, they entered wilderness so they should be prepared for a fight.
High risk high reward...
Now again, if you won't say something close to intelligent, I would like to ask you to stay away from the topic and go bash a wall or some crap to go away with your frustrations, luv <3
Don't make feedback topics if you start crying when people give their honest opinion
try changing my mind with good arguments instead of saying offensive shit that won't change anything
this system is probably here so that when people disconnect while PvM'ing that they have a chance to log out without dying, think your suggestion through in every single way before making a feedback topic
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
That's the only reason they're located in wilderness, so there's a chance you might get pkd while killing specs/revs. If you go there you have to take that in count. The current state of spectrals is ridiculous.
go quit
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
That's the only reason they're located in wilderness, so there's a chance you might get pkd while killing specs/revs. If you go there you have to take that in count. The current state of spectrals is ridiculous.
go quit
'go be inactive'
Anyway, PvMers already have a big disadvantage in a fight versus a pker so why take away the small chances of survival they have?
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
That's the only reason they're located in wilderness, so there's a chance you might get pkd while killing specs/revs. If you go there you have to take that in count. The current state of spectrals is ridiculous.
go quit
'go be inactive'
Anyway, PvMers already have a big disadvantage in a fight versus a pker so why take away the guaranteed ways of survival they have?
Fixed.
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
That's the only reason they're located in wilderness, so there's a chance you might get pkd while killing specs/revs. If you go there you have to take that in count. The current state of spectrals is ridiculous.
go quit
'go be inactive'
Anyway, PvMers already have a big disadvantage in a fight versus a pker so why take away the guaranteed ways of survival they have?
Fixed.
If you have good timing you can attack them between kills
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
the fact that you don't care about this feature since it doesn't hurt you in anyway doesn't mean that you have to be a not very nice person..
The escaping is far too easy, it shouldn't be like that, most of the people with a brain agreed with me..
I'm not asking that escaping would be impossible, I'm just asking for a balance between easy escaping and hard escaping..
is it legit I can pj from other players, but I can't pj from a spectral?
I don't care if they do want fight or not, they entered wilderness so they should be prepared for a fight.
High risk high reward...
Now again, if you won't say something close to intelligent, I would like to ask you to stay away from the topic and go bash a wall or some crap to go away with your frustrations, luv <3
Don't make feedback topics if you start crying when people give their honest opinion
try changing my mind with good arguments instead of saying offensive shit that won't change anything
this system is probably here so that when people disconnect while PvM'ing that they have a chance to log out without dying, think your suggestion through in every single way before making a feedback topic
Where are your legit arguments? did you even read my posts?
You didn't even answer my simple question, yet you are being a smartass
I'll ask it again, is it legit that you can pj players from other players but you can't pj players from spectrals? answer this time please, if yes give me a good argument, since I didn't see a single argument of yours..
"Fight people who actually want to fight"--> what is that? an argument?
HEY IM SMART ILL SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO FIGHT LOL ROFL HAHA SO MUCH USE...
if someone is in the wilderness I could care less whether he wants to fight or not, he took the risk, he made a step into the wilderness.
Giving him more chances of making his escape than giving me more chances to kill him is simply unfair, feel free to escape, idc, but make it legit..
If this server is based on pvmers, then tell all the pkers to fuck off and move spectrals to varrock like earl said, if not then atleast try to listen instead of going all smartass/ignorant mode with your useless replies.. I don't want you on this topic unless you have to say something that will make sense..
You do have all pvmers behind you, not because your post make any sense but because you just share their opinion..
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
That's the only reason they're located in wilderness, so there's a chance you might get pkd while killing specs/revs. If you go there you have to take that in count. The current state of spectrals is ridiculous.
go quit
'go be inactive'
Anyway, PvMers already have a big disadvantage in a fight versus a pker so why take away the guaranteed ways of survival they have?
Fixed.
If you have good timing you can attack them between kills
uhu, when they x log while you can't even start attacking, I'll ask it again, do you even read my posts?
sorry for double post
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
*All Ancient armour drops to 1m ea*
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
the fact that you don't care about this feature since it doesn't hurt you in anyway doesn't mean that you have to be a not very nice person..
The escaping is far too easy, it shouldn't be like that, most of the people with a brain agreed with me..
I'm not asking that escaping would be impossible, I'm just asking for a balance between easy escaping and hard escaping..
is it legit I can pj from other players, but I can't pj from a spectral?
I don't care if they do want fight or not, they entered wilderness so they should be prepared for a fight.
High risk high reward...
Now again, if you won't say something close to intelligent, I would like to ask you to stay away from the topic and go bash a wall or some crap to go away with your frustrations, luv <3
Don't make feedback topics if you start crying when people give their honest opinion
try changing my mind with good arguments instead of saying offensive shit that won't change anything
this system is probably here so that when people disconnect while PvM'ing that they have a chance to log out without dying, think your suggestion through in every single way before making a feedback topic
Where are your legit arguments? did you even read my posts?
You didn't even answer my simple question, yet you are being a smartass
I'll ask it again, is it legit that you can pj players from other players but you can't pj players from spectrals? answer this time please, if yes give me a good argument, since I didn't see a single argument of yours..
"Fight people who actually want to fight"--> what is that? an argument?
HEY IM SMART ILL SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO FIGHT LOL ROFL HAHA SO MUCH USE...
if someone is in the wilderness I could care less whether he wants to fight or not, he took the risk, he made a step into the wilderness.
Giving him more chances of making his escape than giving me more chances to kill him is simply unfair, feel free to escape, idc, but make it legit..
If this server is based on pvmers, then tell all the pkers to fuck off and move spectrals to varrock like earl said, if not then atleast try to listen instead of going all smartass/ignorant mode with your useless replies.. I don't want you on this topic unless you have to say something that will make sense..
You do have all pvmers behind you, not because your post make any sense but because you just share their opinion..
The problem is that you don't make sense either, what do you want? What is your desired change?
Don't give some vague description of your feedback and expect people to understand what you want changed, give a solution.
Wilderness combat works the same on emps as in runescape, you can't PJ people who are in a fight with a monster but you can PJ people who are in a fight with a player (which is how it's supposed to be).
We shouldn't overhaul the way the whole PvP system works just so you can kill people at spectrals, the changes would have to much impact on the wilderness in general.
'When you are fcing a random ranger can intercept you because you aren't being under attack, is that meant to be like that?
if not, can you change the pj timer that it works for both parties in a fight, so if I fc someone noone can intercept me since I would be classified as under attack.'
This is literally what PJ'ing is and why people suggested to add it so they could interupt fights.
Changing it so that it works for both parties isn't possible because you would have to remove the whole PJ system.
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
the fact that you don't care about this feature since it doesn't hurt you in anyway doesn't mean that you have to be a not very nice person..
The escaping is far too easy, it shouldn't be like that, most of the people with a brain agreed with me..
I'm not asking that escaping would be impossible, I'm just asking for a balance between easy escaping and hard escaping..
is it legit I can pj from other players, but I can't pj from a spectral?
I don't care if they do want fight or not, they entered wilderness so they should be prepared for a fight.
High risk high reward...
Now again, if you won't say something close to intelligent, I would like to ask you to stay away from the topic and go bash a wall or some crap to go away with your frustrations, luv <3
Don't make feedback topics if you start crying when people give their honest opinion
try changing my mind with good arguments instead of saying offensive shit that won't change anything
this system is probably here so that when people disconnect while PvM'ing that they have a chance to log out without dying, think your suggestion through in every single way before making a feedback topic
Where are your legit arguments? did you even read my posts?
You didn't even answer my simple question, yet you are being a smartass
I'll ask it again, is it legit that you can pj players from other players but you can't pj players from spectrals? answer this time please, if yes give me a good argument, since I didn't see a single argument of yours..
"Fight people who actually want to fight"--> what is that? an argument?
HEY IM SMART ILL SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO FIGHT LOL ROFL HAHA SO MUCH USE...
if someone is in the wilderness I could care less whether he wants to fight or not, he took the risk, he made a step into the wilderness.
Giving him more chances of making his escape than giving me more chances to kill him is simply unfair, feel free to escape, idc, but make it legit..
If this server is based on pvmers, then tell all the pkers to fuck off and move spectrals to varrock like earl said, if not then atleast try to listen instead of going all smartass/ignorant mode with your useless replies.. I don't want you on this topic unless you have to say something that will make sense..
You do have all pvmers behind you, not because your post make any sense but because you just share their opinion..
The problem is that you don't make sense either, what do you want? What is your desired change?
Don't give some vague description of your feedback and expect people to understand what you want changed, give a solution.
Wilderness combat works the same on emps as in runescape, you can't PJ people who are in a fight with a monster but you can PJ people who are in a fight with a player (which is how it's supposed to be).
We shouldn't overhaul the way the whole PvP system works just so you can kill people at spectrals, the changes would have to much impact on the wilderness in general.
'When you are fcing a random ranger can intercept you because you aren't being under attack, is that meant to be like that?
if not, can you change the pj timer that it works for both parties in a fight, so if I fc someone noone can intercept me since I would be classified as under attack.'
This is literally what PJ'ing is and why people suggested to add it so they could interupt fights.
Changing it so that it works for both parties isn't possible because you would have to remove the whole PJ system.
make it possible to pj from monsters if the guy doesn't attack back in x-time...---> isn't that kinda clear?
and stop about that rs crap argument, this isn't rs
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
You don't understand my point that those people who PvM don't want to fight players which is why they try to escape in whatever way.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
the fact that you don't care about this feature since it doesn't hurt you in anyway doesn't mean that you have to be a not very nice person..
The escaping is far too easy, it shouldn't be like that, most of the people with a brain agreed with me..
I'm not asking that escaping would be impossible, I'm just asking for a balance between easy escaping and hard escaping..
is it legit I can pj from other players, but I can't pj from a spectral?
I don't care if they do want fight or not, they entered wilderness so they should be prepared for a fight.
High risk high reward...
Now again, if you won't say something close to intelligent, I would like to ask you to stay away from the topic and go bash a wall or some crap to go away with your frustrations, luv <3
Don't make feedback topics if you start crying when people give their honest opinion
try changing my mind with good arguments instead of saying offensive shit that won't change anything
this system is probably here so that when people disconnect while PvM'ing that they have a chance to log out without dying, think your suggestion through in every single way before making a feedback topic
Where are your legit arguments? did you even read my posts?
You didn't even answer my simple question, yet you are being a smartass
I'll ask it again, is it legit that you can pj players from other players but you can't pj players from spectrals? answer this time please, if yes give me a good argument, since I didn't see a single argument of yours..
"Fight people who actually want to fight"--> what is that? an argument?
HEY IM SMART ILL SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT PEOPLE THAT WANT TO FIGHT LOL ROFL HAHA SO MUCH USE...
if someone is in the wilderness I could care less whether he wants to fight or not, he took the risk, he made a step into the wilderness.
Giving him more chances of making his escape than giving me more chances to kill him is simply unfair, feel free to escape, idc, but make it legit..
If this server is based on pvmers, then tell all the pkers to fuck off and move spectrals to varrock like earl said, if not then atleast try to listen instead of going all smartass/ignorant mode with your useless replies.. I don't want you on this topic unless you have to say something that will make sense..
You do have all pvmers behind you, not because your post make any sense but because you just share their opinion..
The problem is that you don't make sense either, what do you want? What is your desired change?
Don't give some vague description of your feedback and expect people to understand what you want changed, give a solution.
Wilderness combat works the same on emps as in runescape, you can't PJ people who are in a fight with a monster but you can PJ people who are in a fight with a player (which is how it's supposed to be).
We shouldn't overhaul the way the whole PvP system works just so you can kill people at spectrals, the changes would have to much impact on the wilderness in general.
'When you are fcing a random ranger can intercept you because you aren't being under attack, is that meant to be like that?
if not, can you change the pj timer that it works for both parties in a fight, so if I fc someone noone can intercept me since I would be classified as under attack.'
This is literally what PJ'ing is and why people suggested to add it so they could interupt fights.
Changing it so that it works for both parties isn't possible because you would have to remove the whole PJ system.
Don't even compare it to rs. Spectrals are different because of 2 reasons, them being:
- you can't attack the spectral even though the pvmer isn't fighting it.
- they can be spawned which means you can't prevent players from attacking them by attacking them yourself.
This allows for x logging which isn't good. Also the interval between a spectral dying and digging up a new one is extremely small and glitchy. You can attack someone who is digging and a spectral will still spawn causing you to lose your target.
Right now there is 0% skill needed to escape from pkers at spectrals. I wouldn't even call it escaping, it's more like evading.
-Firstly you can x log.
-Secondly if you somehow got attacked you can zgs spec the pker and there's nothing he can do about it. You don't even have to time it because even when you get refrozen after speccing you will still escape as the zgs freeze lasts longer than ice barrage.
-Thirdly there's a wilderness exit 30 steps south.
Seriously how much protection do pvmers need? Where's the high risk high reward?
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Just revert the change and let pkers hit people who are killing spectrals...This will at least eliminate one easy way to escape via x-logging.
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Fight people who actually want to fight if you don't want them to log or escape
Maybe lets move spectrals and revs to varrock centre?
*All Ancient armour drops to 1m ea*
How the f do tards like you get promoted?
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How the f do tards like you get promoted?
by not being like you, and "go quit" in every single of your reply doesn't help the situation.
i seriously can't handle all the turds that go nerdrage because they couldn't kill a guy in guthans set, if you can't kill a pvmer, how do you expect to kill a legit pker? like seriously, making a few clicks and freezing your enemy, instead of running around isn't that hard.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
arjen is being one of the few reasonable people here, i start to wonder if the rest of butthurt "pkers" here even think of what they're saying first, if i'm going to skill spectrals, i'll most likely end up killing them and not fighting a pker with a 5x times better gear than mine. if what I just said is still too hard for your dead brain to process then let me put it in this way. "WHY WOULD I FIGHT A PKER WHEN I CAME TO KILL SPECTRALS AND WHEN I KNOW I'D DIE?"
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How the f do tards like you get promoted?
by not being like you, and "go quit" in every single of your reply doesn't help the situation.
i seriously can't handle all the turds that go nerdrage because they couldn't kill a guy in guthans set, if you can't kill a pvmer, how do you expect to kill a legit pker? like seriously, making a few clicks and freezing your enemy, instead of running around isn't that hard.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
arjen is being one of the few reasonable people here, i start to wonder if the rest of butthurt "pkers" here even think of what they're saying first, if i'm going to skill spectrals, i'll most likely end up killing them and not fighting a pker with a 5x times better gear than mine. if what I just said is still too hard for your dead brain to process then let me put it in this way. "WHY WOULD I FIGHT A PKER WHEN I CAME TO KILL SPECTRALS AND WHEN I KNOW I'D DIE?"
shut the fuck up retard you're an empty spot, nobody fucking cares about what you write piss off
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How the f do tards like you get promoted?
by not being like you, and "go quit" in every single of your reply doesn't help the situation.
i seriously can't handle all the turds that go nerdrage because they couldn't kill a guy in guthans set, if you can't kill a pvmer, how do you expect to kill a legit pker? like seriously, making a few clicks and freezing your enemy, instead of running around isn't that hard.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
arjen is being one of the few reasonable people here, i start to wonder if the rest of butthurt "pkers" here even think of what they're saying first, if i'm going to skill spectrals, i'll most likely end up killing them and not fighting a pker with a 5x times better gear than mine. if what I just said is still too hard for your dead brain to process then let me put it in this way. "WHY WOULD I FIGHT A PKER WHEN I CAME TO KILL SPECTRALS AND WHEN I KNOW I'D DIE?"
shut the fuck up retard you're an empty spot, nobody fucking cares about what you write piss off
and here's a keyboard warrior in its natural habitat, careful everyone, don't let it get too close to you
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How the f do tards like you get promoted?
by not being like you, and "go quit" in every single of your reply doesn't help the situation.
i seriously can't handle all the turds that go nerdrage because they couldn't kill a guy in guthans set, if you can't kill a pvmer, how do you expect to kill a legit pker? like seriously, making a few clicks and freezing your enemy, instead of running around isn't that hard.
Again: fight people who actually want to fight you or stop crying on the forums when you can't kill PvM'ers
arjen is being one of the few reasonable people here, i start to wonder if the rest of butthurt "pkers" here even think of what they're saying first, if i'm going to skill spectrals, i'll most likely end up killing them and not fighting a pker with a 5x times better gear than mine. if what I just said is still too hard for your dead brain to process then let me put it in this way. "WHY WOULD I FIGHT A PKER WHEN I CAME TO KILL SPECTRALS AND WHEN I KNOW I'D DIE?"
shut the fuck up retard you're an empty spot, nobody fucking cares about what you write piss off
and here's a keyboard warrior in its natural habitat, careful everyone, don't let it get too close to you
You obviously don't even know what "keyboard warrior" means
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You can't say "go fight people who want to fight you" ... Pvmers are the ones who obviously walked into pkers territory, they are out of their comfortzone not us. It's our playground, not theirs.
Wild is for pking, when you have npcs put into wild the obvious idea behind it is that pvmers will should have a harder time of killing those certain npcs. (because pkers attack them). It's intended to be that way.
Like said, mind aswell add them into Varrock Square then. There's really fucking low % of dying at spectrals, which doesn't make sense because it's deep wild.
I dont actually know but I trust people who say so, but generally the damn reason npcs are in wild is that pkers will kill pvmers therefore items will have some value and at the same time create more content for pkers.
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You can't say "go fight people who want to fight you" ... Pvmers are the ones who obviously walked into pkers territory, they are out of their comfortzone not us. It's our playground, not theirs.
Wild is for pking, when you have npcs put into wild the obvious idea behind it is that pvmers will should have a harder time of killing those certain npcs. (because pkers attack them). It's intended to be that way.
Like said, mind aswell add them into Varrock Square then. There's really fucking low % of dying at spectrals, which doesn't make sense because it's deep wild.
I dont actually know but I trust people who say so, but generally the damn reason npcs are in wild is that pkers will kill pvmers therefore items will have some value and at the same time create more content for pkers.
But it's ridiculous to suggest changes into Wilderness because one cannot kill a PvMer who isn't even attacking back. Just accept the fact that you're shit, quit crying and move on with your life.
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You can't say "go fight people who want to fight you" ... Pvmers are the ones who obviously walked into pkers territory, they are out of their comfortzone not us. It's our playground, not theirs.
Wild is for pking, when you have npcs put into wild the obvious idea behind it is that pvmers will should have a harder time of killing those certain npcs. (because pkers attack them). It's intended to be that way.
Like said, mind aswell add them into Varrock Square then. There's really fucking low % of dying at spectrals, which doesn't make sense because it's deep wild.
I dont actually know but I trust people who say so, but generally the damn reason npcs are in wild is that pkers will kill pvmers therefore items will have some value and at the same time create more content for pkers.
But it's ridiculous to suggest changes into Wilderness because one cannot kill a PvMer who isn't even attacking back. Just accept the fact that you're shit, quit crying and move on with your life.
There's a huge difference between not being able to kill someone because of bullshit reasons and not being able to kill someone because you're shit.
Right now I kill everyone except for those that 'abuse':
- zgs
- x log
- pj immunity
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem is here.
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You can't say "go fight people who want to fight you" ... Pvmers are the ones who obviously walked into pkers territory, they are out of their comfortzone not us. It's our playground, not theirs.
Wild is for pking, when you have npcs put into wild the obvious idea behind it is that pvmers will should have a harder time of killing those certain npcs. (because pkers attack them). It's intended to be that way.
Like said, mind aswell add them into Varrock Square then. There's really fucking low % of dying at spectrals, which doesn't make sense because it's deep wild.
I dont actually know but I trust people who say so, but generally the damn reason npcs are in wild is that pkers will kill pvmers therefore items will have some value and at the same time create more content for pkers.
But it's ridiculous to suggest changes into Wilderness because one cannot kill a PvMer who isn't even attacking back. Just accept the fact that you're shit, quit crying and move on with your life.
There's a huge difference between not being able to kill someone because of bullshit reasons and not being able to kill someone because you're shit.
Right now I kill everyone except for those that 'abuse':
- zgs
- x log
- pj immunity
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem is here.
In that case I'd be more interested in reading proper feedback instead of some mad guy insulting people who he kills 'cunts'. I still haven't seen anyone take this thread seriously.
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You can't say "go fight people who want to fight you" ... Pvmers are the ones who obviously walked into pkers territory, they are out of their comfortzone not us. It's our playground, not theirs.
Wild is for pking, when you have npcs put into wild the obvious idea behind it is that pvmers will should have a harder time of killing those certain npcs. (because pkers attack them). It's intended to be that way.
Like said, mind aswell add them into Varrock Square then. There's really fucking low % of dying at spectrals, which doesn't make sense because it's deep wild.
I dont actually know but I trust people who say so, but generally the damn reason npcs are in wild is that pkers will kill pvmers therefore items will have some value and at the same time create more content for pkers.
But it's ridiculous to suggest changes into Wilderness because one cannot kill a PvMer who isn't even attacking back. Just accept the fact that you're shit, quit crying and move on with your life.
There's a huge difference between not being able to kill someone because of bullshit reasons and not being able to kill someone because you're shit.
Right now I kill everyone except for those that 'abuse':
- zgs
- x log
- pj immunity
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem is here.
In that case I'd be more interested in reading proper feedback instead of some mad guy insulting people who he kills 'cunts'. I still haven't seen anyone take this thread seriously.
And you chime in doing the same thing.
"move on with your life, you're shit" while I point out flaws in some bullshit logic in "dont attack pvmers"
Yeah it's equally interesting to read your bullshit quote to my post which was clearly fine.
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You can't say "go fight people who want to fight you" ... Pvmers are the ones who obviously walked into pkers territory, they are out of their comfortzone not us. It's our playground, not theirs.
Wild is for pking, when you have npcs put into wild the obvious idea behind it is that pvmers will should have a harder time of killing those certain npcs. (because pkers attack them). It's intended to be that way.
Like said, mind aswell add them into Varrock Square then. There's really fucking low % of dying at spectrals, which doesn't make sense because it's deep wild.
I dont actually know but I trust people who say so, but generally the damn reason npcs are in wild is that pkers will kill pvmers therefore items will have some value and at the same time create more content for pkers.
But it's ridiculous to suggest changes into Wilderness because one cannot kill a PvMer who isn't even attacking back. Just accept the fact that you're shit, quit crying and move on with your life.
There's a huge difference between not being able to kill someone because of bullshit reasons and not being able to kill someone because you're shit.
Right now I kill everyone except for those that 'abuse':
- zgs
- x log
- pj immunity
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem is here.
In that case I'd be more interested in reading proper feedback instead of some mad guy insulting people who he kills 'cunts'. I still haven't seen anyone take this thread seriously.
And you chime in doing the same thing.
"move on with your life, you're shit" while I point out flaws in some bullshit logic in "dont attack pvmers"
Yeah it's equally interesting to read your bullshit quote to my post which was clearly fine.
The obvious difference is that I wasn't giving feedback on game mechanics.
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"move on with your life, you're shit" while I point out flaws in some bullshit logic in "dont attack pvmers"
you can attack pvmers, but don't complain about that you can't kill them, because of some unclear reasons, like zgz freezing you? seriously? zgz special attack should freeze your opponent, that's how it should be, if you don't want to get stunned, don't come near him like a retard, and just mage him from a remote distance, like you supposed to do.
and what's that about comfort zone? just because pvmers run from you and don't want to get killed you call them wussies? that's one of the stupidest things anyone has said ever.
shut the fuck up retard you're an empty spot, nobody fucking cares about what you write piss off
how are you not moderated yet, seriously?
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"move on with your life, you're shit" while I point out flaws in some bullshit logic in "dont attack pvmers"
you can attack pvmers, but don't complain about that you can't kill them, because of some unclear reasons, like zgz freezing you? seriously? zgz special attack should freeze your opponent, that's how it should be, if you don't want to get stunned, don't come near him like a retard, and just mage him from a remote distance, like you supposed to do.
and what's that about comfort zone? just because pvmers run from you and don't want to get killed you call them wussies? that's one of the stupidest things anyone has said ever.
shut the fuck up retard you're an empty spot, nobody fucking cares about what you write piss off
how are you not moderated yet, seriously?
If the reasons are unclear to you then ask for explanation, don't start to misinterpret something without häving no clue what the fuck it is that you are talking about.
Where exactly did I call anyone a "wussie"?
"That's not one of the stupidest things anyone has said ever" that's another one of your assumptions of what I said whilist it's not true at all.
If you can't understand Basic english I can dumb it down for you, but please let my words be my words not some bullshit translation of what you think they are.
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"move on with your life, you're shit" while I point out flaws in some bullshit logic in "dont attack pvmers"
you can attack pvmers, but don't complain about that you can't kill them, because of some unclear reasons, like zgz freezing you? seriously? zgz special attack should freeze your opponent, that's how it should be, if you don't want to get stunned, don't come near him like a retard, and just mage him from a remote distance, like you supposed to do.
and what's that about comfort zone? just because pvmers run from you and don't want to get killed you call them wussies? that's one of the stupidest things anyone has said ever.
shut the fuck up retard you're an empty spot, nobody fucking cares about what you write piss off
how are you not moderated yet, seriously?
If the reasons are unclear to you then ask for explanation, don't start to misinterpret something without häving no clue what the fuck it is that you are talking about.
Where exactly did I call anyone a "wussie"?
"That's not one of the stupidest things anyone has said ever" that's another one of your assumptions of what I said whilist it's not true at all.
If you can't understand Basic english I can dumb it down for you, but please let my words be my words not some bullshit translation of what you think they are.
why are you in denial that you thought about it when you wrote it? what i said is not an assumption, it's a fact, you want every single pvmer to fight back to their death. now that's stupid.
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"move on with your life, you're shit" while I point out flaws in some bullshit logic in "dont attack pvmers"
you can attack pvmers, but don't complain about that you can't kill them, because of some unclear reasons, like zgz freezing you? seriously? zgz special attack should freeze your opponent, that's how it should be, if you don't want to get stunned, don't come near him like a retard, and just mage him from a remote distance, like you supposed to do.
and what's that about comfort zone? just because pvmers run from you and don't want to get killed you call them wussies? that's one of the stupidest things anyone has said ever.
shut the fuck up retard you're an empty spot, nobody fucking cares about what you write piss off
how are you not moderated yet, seriously?
If the reasons are unclear to you then ask for explanation, don't start to misinterpret something without häving no clue what the fuck it is that you are talking about.
Where exactly did I call anyone a "wussie"?
"That's not one of the stupidest things anyone has said ever" that's another one of your assumptions of what I said whilist it's not true at all.
If you can't understand Basic english I can dumb it down for you, but please let my words be my words not some bullshit translation of what you think they are.
why are you in denial that you thought about it when you wrote it? what i said is not an assumption, it's a fact, you want every single pvmer to fight back to their death. now that's stupid.
Saying that pvmers are out of their comfortzone in level 30 wilderness in pvm inventory and gear, is me calling them pussies?
What the fuck are you on about.
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I will now explain the current situation of spectrals;
>90% of the time when you, the pker, arrive at the spectral area the pvmers will be in a fight with a spectral.
>>10% of the time they are not, but since they can dig up one within like 1 second you won't be able to attack them before they are in combat again. (or when you somehow manage to attack them they are still digging and spawn a spectral anyway=same result)
Therefore;
>100% of the time you, the pker, will have to wait for the pvmers to finish their kill.
Which means;
>they know you are there.
Which means they have the following options;
>kill the spectral and risk being attacked.
>X log.
>do nothing and wait for the pker to leave. (when the pker doesn't leave; X log or kill the spectral)
Now guess which option 90% of the pvmers pick?
When for some reason they decide to kill the spectral and thus risk being attacked they will;
>attempt to dig up a new one before getting attacked which works about 25% of the time. (if succesfull go back to the previous point)
>attempt to escape.
When they attempt to escape they have the following options;
>outlast the pker which is quite easy when the pker isn't very good/doesn't have good gear and teleport away. (or in the case of teleblock use the agility shortcut to exit the wilderness)
>use the zgs special attack.
When they use the zgs special attack their escape is guaranteed because;
>they aren't frozen yet and use the special attack.
>>when they get frozen after they used the special attack they will be unfrozen first because the zgs freeze lasts longer and thus escape.
>> they don't even get frozen after they used the special attack and thus escape.
>they are frozen before they could use the special attack.
>>they use the special attack as soon as they are unfrozen when the pker is close because they can't get frozen before they reach him because of freeze immunity. (go back to the previous point)
>>they run from the pker and be out of reach because he took his distance to avoid being hit by the special attack and thus escape.
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Basically what you're saying is:
- PVMer gets away if the PKer is slow (PKer's fault)
- PVMer gets away because of x-log (obvious abuse)
- PVMer gets away because he has brainpower to use actual tactics (ZGS + outsmart the PKer)
I can't see anything else wrong here besides the x-log abuse. It's a single-combat area, that's how it's supposed to freaking work rofl
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Basically what you're saying is:
- PVMer gets away if the PKer is slow (PKer's fault)
- PVMer gets away because of x-log (obvious abuse)
- PVMer gets away because he has brainpower to use actual tactics (ZGS + outsmart the PKer)
I can't see anything else wrong here besides the x-log abuse. It's a single-combat area, that's how it's supposed to freaking work rofl
I would be okay with the zgs if the pker had a way to counter it. Right now it takes no skill at all to use.
*Oh and if you're basing the 'way it's supposed to work' on Rs then you're wrong.
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Basically what you're saying is:
- PVMer gets away if the PKer is slow (PKer's fault)
- PVMer gets away because of x-log (obvious abuse)
- PVMer gets away because he has brainpower to use actual tactics (ZGS + outsmart the PKer)
I can't see anything else wrong here besides the x-log abuse. It's a single-combat area, that's how it's supposed to freaking work rofl
I would be okay with the zgs if the pker had a way to counter it. Right now it takes no skill at all to use.
*Oh and if you're basing the 'way it's supposed to work' on Rs then you're wrong.
The single combat in Emps has been like this for ages and nobody has complained about it. Suddenly when a PKer can't kill a guy in Guthans it has become a gigantic problem. That's what I meant with ''how it's supposed to freaking work''.
How to counter ZGS? Use one yourself or don't let the PVMer attack you. Simple. Last time I checked outsmarting some random dude at spectrals wasn't that hard.
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Basically what you're saying is:
- PVMer gets away if the PKer is slow (PKer's fault)
- PVMer gets away because of x-log (obvious abuse)
- PVMer gets away because he has brainpower to use actual tactics (ZGS + outsmart the PKer)
I can't see anything else wrong here besides the x-log abuse. It's a single-combat area, that's how it's supposed to freaking work rofl
I would be okay with the zgs if the pker had a way to counter it. Right now it takes no skill at all to use.
*Oh and if you're basing the 'way it's supposed to work' on Rs then you're wrong.
The single combat in Emps has been like this for ages and nobody has complained about it. Suddenly when a PKer can't kill a guy in Guthans it has become a gigantic problem. That's what I meant with ''how it's supposed to freaking work''.
How to counter ZGS? Use one yourself or don't let the PVMer attack you. Simple. Last time I checked outsmarting some random dude at spectrals wasn't that hard.
>You could pj people at spectrals when it was still single combat.
>I already explained that it's nearly impossible to counter a zgs.