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Emps-World => Feedback => Topic started by: Yaz on December 22, 2015, 11:50:15 pm
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IT'S FUCKING BULLSHIT.
Can you just stop doing changes to pvp? It's damn fine and you just ruin it over and over with your goddamn ideas? Who the hell suggested that?
Not like you all 24/7 pk and even give a suggestion for such idea to implement without even testing it in real wildy, oh wait did Martin test it the other day?
Watever, get back the old attacking mode.
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wasnt me
Anyway Thomy would like to have extra feedback on this feature and if it should stay or not, so anyone's opinions are appreciated!
Imo it seems very unclear to have such a different 'feel' of fighting: no other server or rs has this feature and it'll set off people that are not used to it, and other people will abuse that difference.
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It was possible to attack with the same timing before but required really fast clicking and mouse movement. It removes the 'skill level' you need in order to not lose out to someone that is simply clicking faster than you are. It shouldn't majorly impact fights as both parties now have an easier time switching. I quite honestly think it's a good feature, it makes bridding a ton easier and prevents fights from being slowed down.
I'm missing a few things in your topic though:
- What exactly does the change do to fights in PvP?
- Why is it bullshit?
- Constructive criticism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism)
Inb4 charr you don't PvP you wouldn't understand. Please explain it so that I would, what you wrote down doesn't explain much.
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It was possible to attack with the same timing before but required really fast clicking and mouse movement. It removes the 'skill level' you need in order to not lose out to someone that is simply clicking faster than you are. It shouldn't majorly impact fights as both parties now have an easier time switching. I quite honestly think it's a good feature, it makes bridding a ton easier and prevents fights from being slowed down.
I'm missing a few things in your topic though:
- What exactly does the change do to fights in PvP?
- Why is it bullshit?
- Constructive criticism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism)
Inb4 charr you don't PvP you wouldn't understand. Please explain it so that I would, what you wrote down doesn't explain much.
You just answered your whole damn reply.
Edit: When you click on the ground while in combat, and only use the weapon or armor, the character automatically attacks, like please...the f?
Edit2: Any newfag can now easily do a long combo cuz clicking on the opponent attacking option is the most far option from inventory. BUT IT'S NOT NEEDED ANYMORE.
EDIT X: wtf is bridding? This is emps dear friend
Edit sex: Go play Roatpkz Charr, bridding and this stupid auto attack move is also there. Did thomy play roatpkz before implementing this? Jesus lol.
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It was possible to attack with the same timing before but required really fast clicking and mouse movement. It removes the 'skill level' you need in order to not lose out to someone that is simply clicking faster than you are. It shouldn't majorly impact fights as both parties now have an easier time switching. I quite honestly think it's a good feature, it makes bridding a ton easier and prevents fights from being slowed down.
I'm missing a few things in your topic though:
- What exactly does the change do to fights in PvP?
- Why is it bullshit?
- Constructive criticism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism)
Inb4 charr you don't PvP you wouldn't understand. Please explain it so that I would, what you wrote down doesn't explain much.
The update pretty much removed half of the skill needed to PK. Considering how full of coward rushers the Wilderness already is, and which is also the main reason why PKing in Emps is dead, the change is really bad even from a perspective of a person who barely PKs. The lack of combat interruption makes it so you will not have time to eat at all between a regular attack and a special attack no matter how shit of a PKer you're fighting against.
IMO PKing should be made harder, so those with actual skill get rewarded for having it. The nerf to Dragon Claws was a step to a better direction but this just made everything million times easier.
Constructive criticism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism) your ass when you next time post about potential item sinks.
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What staff thinks pkers want > new updates, doesnt matter which ones, just new updates to pvp
What pkers want > To be left alone by staff and their bullshit changes, because every pker already realized that its not even worth anymore suggesting new pvp changes because the staff team will fuck it up sooner or later with some stupid ass Update.
No I dont think your idiotic updates are fine, nor Im not giving you cnc for something that was forced on pkers, and then you ask for cnc? Pfft, get your shit together.
Stop making updates without consent of pkers, or players in general.
Stop trying to make every aspect of the game better, aspects that you know shit about and aspects of the game that are already fine.
Inb4 warning or infraction for off-topic, but seriously if you dont get my point the fuck off.
It was possible to attack with the same timing before but required really fast clicking and mouse movement. It removes the 'skill level' you need in order to not lose out to someone that is simply clicking faster than you are
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS? ^
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Wow never seen someone that mad after the Claws nerf crap
Calm down m8
Anyways I agree
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Wow never seen someone that mad after the Claws nerf crap
Calm down m8
Anyways I agree
There's no reason to praise people responsible for this Update.
There is absolutely no reason to change such small stuff about pvp when it changes so much, why try and lower skill ceiling of wilderness? If you want another duel area just code another duel area next to one that already exists.
Why even waste your time and and screw with pkers (the few that we have).
Nobody ever has complained about what this Update was suppose to "fix". NO BODY EVER
Why try and fix something that is perfectly fine?
Wilderness is about skill, not that it takes much at all to pk at this point, so why lower the skill-req even more?It should have a decent skill-ceiling, so you actually have to do something not click spec and hope for 75 with ags.
It's not fun to pk this way, yes, people pk for fun. I dont see it being any fun this way, all combos and specs are suddenly guaranteed ........
Also, last time someone bridded in emps was 2010/2011. (actual briding not rushing, or briding against someone who is clearly not a brid)
This Update wont bring back those times and make people brid.
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Gotta agree with yaz, it's annoying as shit.
Makes you do things you don't want to do which cause you to die.
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Wow never seen someone that mad after the Claws nerf crap
Calm down m8
Anyways I agree
There's no reason to praise people responsible for this Update.
There is absolutely no reason to change such small stuff about pvp when it changes so much, why try and lower skill ceiling of wilderness? If you want another duel area just code another duel area next to one that already exists.
Why even waste your time and and screw with pkers (the few that we have).
Nobody ever has complained about what this Update was suppose to "fix". NO BODY EVER
Why try and fix something that is perfectly fine?
Wilderness is about skill, not that it takes much at all to pk at this point, so why lower the skill-req even more?It should have a decent skill-ceiling, so you actually have to do something not click spec and hope for 75 with ags.
It's not fun to pk this way, yes, people pk for fun. I dont see it being any fun this way, all combos and specs are suddenly guaranteed ........
Also, last time someone bridded in emps was 2010/2011. (actual briding not rushing, or briding against someone who is clearly not a brid)
This Update wont bring back those times and make people brid.
I'm not praising anyone, in fact Just like I said I totally agree, at least if you want to change something in pk, ask actual pkers on what their opinion would be
It's just Yaz seemed so freaking mad lol
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Wow never seen someone that mad after the Claws nerf crap
Calm down m8
Anyways I agree
There's no reason to praise people responsible for this Update.
There is absolutely no reason to change such small stuff about pvp when it changes so much, why try and lower skill ceiling of wilderness? If you want another duel area just code another duel area next to one that already exists.
Why even waste your time and and screw with pkers (the few that we have).
Nobody ever has complained about what this Update was suppose to "fix". NO BODY EVER
Why try and fix something that is perfectly fine?
Wilderness is about skill, not that it takes much at all to pk at this point, so why lower the skill-req even more?It should have a decent skill-ceiling, so you actually have to do something not click spec and hope for 75 with ags.
It's not fun to pk this way, yes, people pk for fun. I dont see it being any fun this way, all combos and specs are suddenly guaranteed ........
Also, last time someone bridded in emps was 2010/2011. (actual briding not rushing, or briding against someone who is clearly not a brid)
This Update wont bring back those times and make people brid.
I'm not praising anyone, in fact Just like I said I totally agree, at least if you want to change something in pk, ask actual pkers on what their opinion would be
It's just Yaz seemed so freaking mad lol
Bruh all I play for in this game is pking, if you're gonna ruin that too then I'm out, ofc I'M MAD!
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I tested some combos you could advantage from off this update, it's fucking broken and unbalanced, I'm sure that what you meant, Mary.
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yup pretty broken
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Freestuffyay, are you aware that ahrim's set hasn't got high magic att & str bonus? If you consider the fact that your opponent has arma, which is the 2nd best range set att and str-wise, and that range beats mage in combat triangle, your splashing should be quite obvious.
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Freestuffyay, are you aware that ahrim's set hasn't got high magic att & str bonus? If you consider the fact that your opponent has arma, which is the 2nd best range set att and str-wise, and that range beats mage in combat triangle, your splashing should be quite obvious.
Still makes no sense why it splashes 12x without freeze
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@Freestuffyay mage vs range is losing either way and he barely hits on you either
@ other vids, im pretty sure you still target them with mouseclicks (which is not needed) but you still do so either way.
Nothing in those vids proves this update.
The accuracy reduction with protection prayers is getting removed (?) or accuracy will be higher in pvp in general balancing this out.
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Wow never seen someone that mad after the Claws nerf crap
Calm down m8
Anyways I agree
There's no reason to praise people responsible for this Update.
There is absolutely no reason to change such small stuff about pvp when it changes so much, why try and lower skill ceiling of wilderness? If you want another duel area just code another duel area next to one that already exists.
Why even waste your time and and screw with pkers (the few that we have).
Nobody ever has complained about what this Update was suppose to "fix". NO BODY EVER
Why try and fix something that is perfectly fine?
Wilderness is about skill, not that it takes much at all to pk at this point, so why lower the skill-req even more?It should have a decent skill-ceiling, so you actually have to do something not click spec and hope for 75 with ags.
It's not fun to pk this way, yes, people pk for fun. I dont see it being any fun this way, all combos and specs are suddenly guaranteed ........
Also, last time someone bridded in emps was 2010/2011. (actual briding not rushing, or briding against someone who is clearly not a brid)
This Update wont bring back those times and make people brid.
I'm not praising anyone, in fact Just like I said I totally agree, at least if you want to change something in pk, ask actual pkers on what their opinion would be
It's just Yaz seemed so freaking mad lol
Most of the ''real'' PKers are already playing something else because BS updates like this. Yaz and Arjen are some of the oldest PKers left here.
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Freestuffyay, are you aware that ahrim's set hasn't got high magic att & str bonus? If you consider the fact that your opponent has arma, which is the 2nd best range set att and str-wise, and that range beats mage in combat triangle, your splashing should be quite obvious.
THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT OF THIS CLIP GODDAMNIT!
He was running away and everytime he drank a dose of potion or food he stood still and stopped moving. (Doing things you didn't command to do).
Get the f outta here lol.
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THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT OF THIS CLIP GODDAMNIT!
As the splashing was clearly mentioned in the video's headline the author thought it's an issue among other things. If he thought otherwise, he wouldn't have put it into headline.
It's true that I didn't give any feedback on other issues, but that doesn't mean that my comment was irrelevant. I was just stating a fact.
Also there's no need to be disrespectful.
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THAT'S NOT THE FUCKING POINT OF THIS CLIP GODDAMNIT!
As the splashing was clearly mentioned in the video's headline the author thought it's an issue among other things. If he thought otherwise, he wouldn't have put it into headline.
It's true that I didn't give any feedback on other issues, but that doesn't mean that my comment was irrelevant. I was just stating a fact.
Also there's no need to be disrespectful.
Did your read what is the topic about in first place??
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Actually I did. The title may speak about auto-attacking, but the main point is that it broke pvp. And following this idea it could be interpreted that drugs's videos illustrated the broken mechanics as well. With this interpretation (that pvp is broken), my point still stands. It may not talk about the your original thoughts, but it certainly follows your post's content.
No need to continue this small clash, my points are already made.
Also I'd like to add that I agree with you and others that the nature of the update made pvp much easier, but since i don't pk I can't give you any details.
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Freestuffyay, are you aware that ahrim's set hasn't got high magic att & str bonus? If you consider the fact that your opponent has arma, which is the 2nd best range set att and str-wise, and that range beats mage in combat triangle, your splashing should be quite obvious.
Still makes no sense why it splashes 12x without freeze
This^
I shouldn't expect much when using ahrims but it's still tier 70 armour versus tier 75 armour which is kinda ridiculous isn't it?
@Freestuffyay mage vs range is losing either way and he barely hits on you either
@ other vids, im pretty sure you still target them with mouseclicks (which is not needed) but you still do so either way.
I have pked with targeting enemies for over 3 years and now it suddenly changes, I still automatically click on people even tho it's not needed.
The not needed part makes it easy
Plus the guy kept hitting 40s through my prayer when I fought him earlier while I can't even hit a 10 through his prayer
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First of all, thanks for this thread; it's valuable feedback. Please keep the language appropriate though. I enjoy talking about changes, but I want to do it in a decent manner.
Anyway, let's dive straight into it. The thing that's been most complained about is the character not stopping to attack when switching weapons. That's more annoying than useful, so we can remove it? What else is annoying? How could it be improved?
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First of all, thanks for this thread; it's valuable feedback. Please keep the language appropriate though. I enjoy talking about changes, but I want to do it in a decent manner.
Anyway, let's dive straight into it. The thing that's been most complained about is the character not stopping to attack when switching weapons. That's more annoying than useful? What else is annoying? How could it be improved?
What else is annoying? Reducing the skill requirence pk to zero?
You can't improve that, just don't. Revert it and we're good lol.
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I will revert that. You'll no longer keep attacking when equipping / unequipping an item.
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I will revert that. You'll no longer keep attacking when equipping / unequipping an item.
In my opinion it is really usefull at pvm. :'(
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I will revert that. You'll no longer keep attacking when equipping / unequipping an item.
Could just make it not interrupt instead of it acting like you click the attack option, but that'd probably take a lot more time.
I'm fine with it either way
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I will revert that. You'll no longer keep attacking when equipping / unequipping an item.
Could just make it not interrupt instead of it acting like you click the attack option
No. Same bs. The whole point is not just fixing that it makes you does stuff you don't want.
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I will revert that. You'll no longer keep attacking when equipping / unequipping an item.
Could just make it not interrupt instead of it acting like you click the attack option
No. Same bs. The whole point is not just fixing that it makes you does stuff you don't want.
That's literally the thing that makes you do stuff that you don't want. . _ .
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I will revert that. You'll no longer keep attacking when equipping / unequipping an item.
Could just make it not interrupt instead of it acting like you click the attack option
No. Same bs. The whole point is not just fixing that it makes you does stuff you don't want.
That's literally the thing that makes you do stuff that you don't want. . _ .
Noshit. From what u say is that u want it an auto attack still which is against the whole damn topic's main subject. So no.
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Locking this topic now since the mechanic was reverted back as suggested.