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Title: Religion
Post by: Avenus on July 23, 2015, 10:34:50 am
Do you believe in a God?
Why do you believe in God?
Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe?


Have you experienced anything out off the natural?
If so, tell me. I would like to hear :P

In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.
Here is a quote that explains perfectly fine what i believe in :P

I dont believe in heaven and hell. I dont know if i believe in god.
All i know is that as an individual, i wont allow this life - the only thing i know to exist - to be wasted. - George Clooney

"Religion. It’s just the ultimate hustle. Why can’t god just defeat the devil? It’s the same reason a comic book character can’t defeat his nemesis. Then there’s no story. If god gets rid of the devil, and he could because he’s all powerful, well there’s no fear. No reason to come to church." -unknown

I don't believe in god, but ill make some valid points in people who believe in gods favor once the debate start :D

Normal forum and debate rules apply, dont go off-topic or personal!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kaner on July 23, 2015, 10:37:38 am
I can predict the future. I am swegod, the swegger. I believe in myself.

I predict this topic is going to turn into a shitstorm real fast

(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Dis-Gon-Be-Good-Chair-Reaction-Gif.gif)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on July 23, 2015, 10:39:34 am
I can predict the future. I am swegod, the swegger.

I predict this topic is going to turn into a shitstorm real fast
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on July 23, 2015, 10:40:10 am
I can predict the future. I am swegod, the swegger.

I predict this topic is going to turn into a shitstorm real fast

atleast when you go out off the topic as first reply.
Someone ip ban this swegod? Thx in advance
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Icedrags on July 23, 2015, 10:45:09 am
(http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/357852/resized_jesus-says-meme-generator-you-need-jesus-in-your-life-c3e237.jpg)

that sums up everything :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on July 23, 2015, 01:28:11 pm
I believe in unicorns.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on July 23, 2015, 03:41:27 pm
I believe in unicorns.
That's interesting. now tell us more about it :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 23, 2015, 04:08:36 pm
I believe in God, I don't want to prove that he exists or does not, because it does not make difference, you came to this topic as an atheist/theist, you'll just get out of it and stay the same.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 23, 2015, 04:11:51 pm
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Freestuffyay on July 23, 2015, 04:29:27 pm
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 23, 2015, 04:32:55 pm
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that
Christian=believes in Jesus=Jesus is a prophet of God. If you don't believe in God, then you don't believe in Jesus =/= Christian.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on July 23, 2015, 04:35:09 pm
I believe in God, no need to say more or prove he exists.

Nothing happens by accident you know
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 23, 2015, 04:50:13 pm
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that
Christian=believes in Jesus=Jesus is a prophet of God. If you don't believe in God, then you don't believe in Jesus =/= Christian.
You can be christian be belief or by paper. Everyone where I live (everyone in finland?) does some religious shit when we're 15 to become christian on paper. Nobody takes it serious though and just does it so they can get married in church and shit. It's also the door to drinking for many because their parents won't allow them before they go through the process. Otto or jp help me pls i dont know the english word for it. Konfirmation :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 23, 2015, 04:58:37 pm
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that
Christian=believes in Jesus=Jesus is a prophet of God. If you don't believe in God, then you don't believe in Jesus =/= Christian.
You can be christian be belief or by paper. Everyone where I live (everyone in finland?) does some religious shit when we're 15 to become christian on paper. Nobody takes it serious though and just does it so they can get married in church and shit. It's also the door to drinking for many because their parents won't allow them before they go through the process. Otto or jp help me pls i dont know the english word for it. Konfirmation :kappa:
Lmao :D

Are you saying Christianity is a key to do stuff that only Christians do for you? That's a total disrespect to the religion itself....
Although, none can punish you for it, because nobody can prove what is in your mind, if you know what I mean ;)

'Freedom of Religion'- That got your back too. I still don't like it.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 23, 2015, 05:02:27 pm
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that
Christian=believes in Jesus=Jesus is a prophet of God. If you don't believe in God, then you don't believe in Jesus =/= Christian.
You can be christian be belief or by paper. Everyone where I live (everyone in finland?) does some religious shit when we're 15 to become christian on paper. Nobody takes it serious though and just does it so they can get married in church and shit. It's also the door to drinking for many because their parents won't allow them before they go through the process. Otto or jp help me pls i dont know the english word for it. Konfirmation :kappa:
Lmao :D

Are you saying Christianity is a key to do stuff that only Christians do for you? That's a total disrespect to the religion itself....
We're not arabs, we don't respect religion
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 23, 2015, 05:03:11 pm
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that
Christian=believes in Jesus=Jesus is a prophet of God. If you don't believe in God, then you don't believe in Jesus =/= Christian.
You can be christian be belief or by paper. Everyone where I live (everyone in finland?) does some religious shit when we're 15 to become christian on paper. Nobody takes it serious though and just does it so they can get married in church and shit. It's also the door to drinking for many because their parents won't allow them before they go through the process. Otto or jp help me pls i dont know the english word for it. Konfirmation :kappa:
Lmao :D

Are you saying Christianity is a key to do stuff that only Christians do for you? That's a total disrespect to the religion itself....
We're not arabs, we don't respect religion
Hi, arab is not a religion, it's nation. Also, you can find arabs who don't respect religion ???
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on July 23, 2015, 05:23:36 pm
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that
Christian=believes in Jesus=Jesus is a prophet of God. If you don't believe in God, then you don't believe in Jesus =/= Christian.
Being a christian means that you've been baptized. >_>
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on July 23, 2015, 05:28:57 pm
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that
Christian=believes in Jesus=Jesus is a prophet of God. If you don't believe in God, then you don't believe in Jesus =/= Christian.
You can be christian be belief or by paper. Everyone where I live (everyone in finland?) does some religious shit when we're 15 to become christian on paper. Nobody takes it serious though and just does it so they can get married in church and shit. It's also the door to drinking for many because their parents won't allow them before they go through the process. Otto or jp help me pls i dont know the english word for it. Konfirmation :kappa:

Dumbass :D Its written konfirmation in Norway too. And yes it as at age 15. Its the same as jews having their bar mitzvah.
Anyways, in Norway its more common to "konfirmere" yourself atheist nowadays. Before and now, the only ones
who are delusional enough to konfirmere themself christian does it because they believe they get more money by their
grandparents because most grandparents in Norway is off older age and do believe in God. But its new times now with new generations.
Becomming an atheist is so common now.

What i ask for to those who believe in God.
How can you believe in something you havent seen? You just want to believe it.
Same as unicorns. People can imagine unicorns exist. But there is no proof that they dont, same for God.
I just wanna hear if any off you whom believe in God got any experiences with him. Has he talked to you? Have you seen him?
Why are you so certain he is real? That's what i wanna know.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: 66destroyer3 on July 23, 2015, 05:31:20 pm
I can predict the future. I am swegod, the swegger. I believe in myself.

I predict this topic is going to turn into a shitstorm real fast

(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Dis-Gon-Be-Good-Chair-Reaction-Gif.gif)

i read that as swaggot tho :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 23, 2015, 05:31:39 pm
I believe in God, I don't want to prove that he exists or does not, because it does not make difference, you came to this topic as an atheist/theist, you'll just get out of it and stay the same.
Then stay out of a debate forum if you don't want to prove she/he/it does exist.

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 23, 2015, 06:01:44 pm
I believe in God, I don't want to prove that he exists or does not, because it does not make difference, you came to this topic as an atheist/theist, you'll just get out of it and stay the same.
Then stay out of a debate forum if you don't want to prove she/he/it does exist.
I answered the first question I passed by :o whats the big deal lol
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 23, 2015, 06:08:33 pm
I believe in God, I don't want to prove that he exists or does not, because it does not make difference, you came to this topic as an atheist/theist, you'll just get out of it and stay the same.
Then stay out of a debate forum if you don't want to prove she/he/it does exist.
I answered the first question I passed by :o whats the big deal lol

The fact that this is a debate board yet you no deb8. Inb4 the entire topic will be filled with 'I believe in god because of personal experiences!!!1'

Again, those answers are fine irl, but not in a debate-type setting
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 23, 2015, 10:10:41 pm
I.believe.in.karma.and.some.people.genrally.associate.it.with.god.
Tho.I.dont.believe.in.god.and.you.couldnt.sell.me"god".with.talking.about."karma"



mfw.god's.followers.try.to.sell.me.god,if,hes,so.powerful.he.should.be.able.to.sell.himself.
also:I.know.people.irl.(adults)who.used.to.be.the.biggest.dicks.ever.then.turned.into.whatever.religion.(wont.name.religions)and.I.almost.felt.like.they.literally.became.brainwashed.Like.you.can.hear.the.nonsense.they.will.do.or.say.after.they.have.picked.up.a.religion.

not.dicks.anymore.as.a.person.but.just.brainwashed.like.from.the.shit.they.say.its.so.obvious.to.me.that.religion.was.made.to.control.people.

Imo.religion.tries.to.take.out.the.evil.in.you.and.replace.it.with.something.worse
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 23, 2015, 10:36:25 pm
not.dicks.anymore.as.a.person.but.just.brainwashed.like.from.the.shit.they.say.its.so.obvious.to.me.that.religion.was.made.to.control.people.

Imo.religion.tries.to.take.out.the.evil.in.you.and.replace.it.with.something.worse
LMAO :D

You have good imagination, Karel :P but that's the second dumbest non-sense thing I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 24, 2015, 12:11:53 am
I believe in God, no need to say more or prove he exists.

Nothing happens by accident you know
^ this
Why should i prove that he/she/it exists, This topic has been back in emps-scape and now here.
We have tried to convince you guys that Allah Does Exist but you guys don't believe us, What's the point of explaining and proving?
It's really pointless to discuss to prove that allah exist, because you're gonna bring alot of shiz up and end up into a flame war.

I told before, we wait until then. we will see who exists and who doesn't.

Replying towards Avenus reply.
Do we really have to see something to believe in it? There is alot of things that made us believe in Allah. and one of them is the Universe..And the humanity...And the Holy Qu'ran
We're made of Mud(Because that's what written in the Holy Qu'ran) The mud didn't have heart,lungs,hair etc etc, Someone has created the Universe and have made the humans in a perfect shape, and as we muslims Believe in Allah.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 24, 2015, 12:24:01 am
not.dicks.anymore.as.a.person.but.just.brainwashed.like.from.the.shit.they.say.its.so.obvious.to.me.that.religion.was.made.to.control.people.

Imo.religion.tries.to.take.out.the.evil.in.you.and.replace.it.with.something.worse
LMAO :D

You have good imagination, Karel :P but that's the second dumbest non-sense thing I have ever heard.
People.are.brainwashed.by.religion.constantly.

example:terrorists,childterrorists,etc
they.are.taught.to.commit.these.acts.of.terrorism.through.a.religion.made.up.just.for.one.purpose.(to.brainwash.people.into.believing.and.doing.something.that.they.want)

I.know.people.who.were.made.to.believe.in.a.lot.nicer.things.than.blwoing.up.shit.but.its.still.the.same.shit.
By.the.end.of.the.day.god.says.you.go.to.hell.if.you.dont.do.this.and.same.shit.they.say.in.every.other.religion.that.was.made.to.get.people.into.doing.a.certain.thing.

I.might.be.wrong.about.lots.of.things.but.if.my.posts.would.get.constructive.replies.I.wouldnt.have.to.talk.to.myself.
Its.a.bit.of.a.nobrainer.to.try.to.reply.to.myself.to.prove.myself.what.I.said.to.myself.WAT.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on July 24, 2015, 12:54:38 am
not.dicks.anymore.as.a.person.but.just.brainwashed.like.from.the.shit.they.say.its.so.obvious.to.me.that.religion.was.made.to.control.people.

Imo.religion.tries.to.take.out.the.evil.in.you.and.replace.it.with.something.worse
LMAO :D

You have good imagination, Karel :P but that's the second dumbest non-sense thing I have ever heard.

ISIS
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 24, 2015, 08:39:01 am
Religion was just made up by people that have a need of believing in a being higher than man, and I'm completely fine with that. A lot of people need religion in their lives, and if I was given the choice of proving every religion wrong or keeping it as it is I would choose the latter.
I have religious friends and they are some of the nicest people I know. Not overly conservative, but fairly devoted muslims and christians. As long as they don't force their religion upon me I really don't mind.
Religion is an obligatory subject in Finland which imo is bullshit, I don't want to waste my time on learning when Noah built the ark or why jesus hung out with fishermen when I could be using my study hours on things that actually matter.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on July 24, 2015, 11:04:36 am
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Religion+is+like+a+penis+not+mineprobably+a+repost_789376_5053930.jpg)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 24, 2015, 11:17:54 am
I believe in God, no need to say more or prove he exists.

Nothing happens by accident you know
^ this
Why should i prove that he/she/it exists,

Because it's a debate board.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Esam121 on July 24, 2015, 02:45:04 pm
I am - as a christian - a person who adheres to Christianity, I believe that Jesus has a unique significance. However, I don't have to follow the traditions and beliefs of christianity because I am free to choose whether it really helps me in my daily life and has an obvious effect or not. Besides of that, I still respect that religion and call myself a Christian because I've inherited this religion when I was born. I'll still believe in god even though it doesn't give results but it is enough that I am happy, free, living with a good family and enjoying life. Thank god.

God exists.

/end
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 24, 2015, 04:34:39 pm
I am - as a christian - a person who adheres to Christianity, I believe that Jesus has a unique significance. However, I don't have to follow the traditions and beliefs of christianity because I am free to choose whether it really helps me in my daily life and has an obvious effect or not. Besides of that, I still respect that religion and call myself a Christian because I've inherited this religion when I was born. I'll still believe in god even though it doesn't give results but it is enough that I am happy, free, living with a good family and enjoying life. Thank god.

God exists.

/end
Why do you believe in your god?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on July 24, 2015, 04:38:12 pm
I am - as a christian - a person who adheres to Christianity, I believe that Jesus has a unique significance. However, I don't have to follow the traditions and beliefs of christianity because I am free to choose whether it really helps me in my daily life and has an obvious effect or not. Besides of that, I still respect that religion and call myself a Christian because I've inherited this religion when I was born. I'll still believe in god even though it doesn't give results but it is enough that I am happy, free, living with a good family and enjoying life. Thank god.

God exists.

/end
Why do you believe in your god?

Cuz I'm an independent strong woman and stuffzzza and I can do watevaaah I want
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 24, 2015, 07:11:51 pm
I believe in God, no need to say more or prove he exists.

Nothing happens by accident you know
^ this
Why should i prove that he/she/it exists,

Because it's a debate board.
Me and many others tried to prove that he/she/it exists and many of you is against it, what's the point of explaining and proving? I know its a debate topic but whats the point if you will end up saying Give us a picture etc etc, Go take a Religion Class...Debating this will take to nowhere.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 24, 2015, 08:09:59 pm
I believe in God, no need to say more or prove he exists.

Nothing happens by accident you know
^ this
Why should i prove that he/she/it exists,

Because it's a debate board.
Me and many others tried to prove that he/she/it exists and many of you is against it, what's the point of explaining and proving? I know its a debate topic but whats the point if you will end up saying Give us a picture etc etc, Go take a Religion Class...Debating this will take to nowhere.
Then don't post here at all
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Dovahkiin on July 25, 2015, 06:42:53 pm
God exist,
       God exist because you cannot create something without nothing. Science proved it, even the "big bang" is caused by something which mean the "big bang" is not the beginning but only act as current unconfirmed final answer by modern science regarding "origin" topic.Maybe in few decades science will find new evidences and discoveries but the outcome would probably as same as searching for the edge of world,it will go on and on...endless.
       
       There are so many mysteries in this world that even science cannot find the answers.Origin of mankind,living things DNA,basic knowledge obtained by newborn (ever wonder how sea turtle hatchlings know how to dig out of the sand and swim to the sea?),and "deja vu" itself cannot be explain by science.
       
       Do you really think that all events happened in coincidence? look at our system, it is prefectly work without flaw and remain in the physics current laws. Don't you think that something out there is controlling all this? Something that is not attached to space , time , and dimension?   

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 25, 2015, 06:56:01 pm
God exist,
      God exist because you cannot create something without nothing. Science proved it, even the "big bang" is caused by something which mean the "big bang" is not the beginning but only act as current unconfirmed final answer by modern science regarding "origin" topic.Maybe in few decades science will find new evidences and discoveries but the outcome would probably as same as searching for the edge of world,it will go on and on...endless.
       
       There are so many mysteries in this world that even science cannot find the answers.Origin of mankind,living things DNA,basic knowledge obtained by newborn (ever wonder how sea turtle hatchlings know how to dig out of the sand and swim to the sea?),and "deja vu" itself cannot be explain by science.
       
       Do you really think that all events happened in coincidence? look at our system, it is prefectly work without flaw and remain in the physics current laws. Don't you think that something out there is controlling all this? Something that is not attached to space , time , and dimension?
Your.whole.god.thing.is.based.on.something.that."always.existed"and.made.something.from.nothing...

Yeah.theres.something.out.there.that.is."controlling".the.whole.universe.Its.laws.of.physics.that.state.how.can.something.exist.and.how.can.it.exist.

If.god.really.exists.why.would.he.bother.to.come.up.with.such.intelligent.universe.that.has.all.the.planets.their.suns.and.shit.(atmospher,oxygen)
Why.wouldnt.he.just.make.a.perfect.paradise.Why.wouldhe.put.his."thought".into.making.earth.and.the.universe.meanwhile.your."heaven".randomly.exists.without.being.a.planet.and.getting.its.energy.from.sun.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Dovahkiin on July 25, 2015, 07:01:49 pm
Your.whole.god.thing.is.based.on.something.that."always.existed"and.made.something.from.nothing...
Got better idea?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on July 25, 2015, 07:02:52 pm
Your.whole.god.thing.is.based.on.something.that."always.existed"and.made.something.from.nothing...
Got better idea?

God doesn't exist. #rekt
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 25, 2015, 07:04:17 pm
Your.whole.god.thing.is.based.on.something.that."always.existed"and.made.something.from.nothing...
Got better idea?
Yeah-god.doesnt.exist.

Why.the.f.would.you.believe.in.god.anyways?What.has.he.done.for.you?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on July 25, 2015, 07:04:58 pm
Your.whole.god.thing.is.based.on.something.that."always.existed"and.made.something.from.nothing...
Got better idea?
Yeah-god.doesnt.exist.

Why.the.f.would.you.believe.in.god.anyways?What.has.he.done.for.you?

Allah made me win 2B at Duel Arena. ALLAHU AKBAR
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 25, 2015, 07:05:24 pm
Your.whole.god.thing.is.based.on.something.that."always.existed"and.made.something.from.nothing...
Got better idea?
Yeah-god.doesnt.exist.

Why.the.f.would.you.believe.in.god.anyways?What.has.he.done.for.you?

Allah made me win 2B at Duel Arena. ALLAHU AKBAR
PRAISE.THE.LORD.AND.ITS.MIRACLES
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Dovahkiin on July 25, 2015, 07:15:37 pm
Yeah-god.doesnt.exist.

Why.the.f.would.you.believe.in.god.anyways?What.has.he.done.for.you?

well..when you live in weird parts of the world like i am where Thailand Vodoo shaman Djin crap is still practiced. You'll believe in god like i do. Be grateful with your 1st world lux.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 25, 2015, 07:18:58 pm
Yeah-god.doesnt.exist.

Why.the.f.would.you.believe.in.god.anyways?What.has.he.done.for.you?

well..when you live in weird parts of the world like i am where Thailand Vodoo shaman Djin crap is still practiced. You'll believe in god like i do. Be grateful with your 1st world lux.
Not.my.problem.that.you.live.in.a.cave.and.believe.in.god.while.I.live.in.a.house.and.fap.6.times.a.day.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 25, 2015, 07:22:01 pm
Yeah-god.doesnt.exist.

Why.the.f.would.you.believe.in.god.anyways?What.has.he.done.for.you?

well..when you live in weird parts of the world like i am where Thailand Vodoo shaman Djin crap is still practiced. You'll believe in god like i do. Be grateful with your 1st world lux.
You're on emps which means you have a computer and internet connection, your siggy is from skyrim which means you probably also have a high end pc. I think that qualifies for 1st world luxury too.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 25, 2015, 07:23:26 pm
Yeah-god.doesnt.exist.

Why.the.f.would.you.believe.in.god.anyways?What.has.he.done.for.you?

well..when you live in weird parts of the world like i am where Thailand Vodoo shaman Djin crap is still practiced. You'll believe in god like i do. Be grateful with your 1st world lux.
You're on emps which means you have a computer and internet connection, your siggy is from skyrim which means you probably also have a high end pc. I think that qualifies for 1st world luxury too.
mfw.religious.person.says.that.everyone.who.believes.in.god.lives.in.a.3rd.world.country.
l0l
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Food Is Yum on July 25, 2015, 10:20:03 pm
Do you believe in a God? Yes , I belive in Karmalian
Why do you believe in God?Because shes Karma
Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe?It makes me better because shes Karma
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 25, 2015, 11:19:53 pm
God exist,
       God exist because you cannot create something without nothing.

Then where did god come from?

. Science proved it, even the "big bang" is caused by something which mean the "big bang" is not the beginning but only act as current unconfirmed final answer by modern science regarding "origin" topic

Yes and if you don't understand something the proper answer is to say 'I don't know'. Do you have proof for your god aside from assertions?

       There are so many mysteries in this world that even science cannot find the answers.Origin of mankind,living things DNA,basic knowledge obtained by newborn (ever wonder how sea turtle hatchlings know how to dig out of the sand and swim to the sea?),and "deja vu" itself cannot be explain by science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instinct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu


   Do you really think that all events happened in coincidence? look at our system, it is prefectly work without flaw and remain in the physics current laws. Don't you think that something out there is controlling all this? Something that is not attached to space , time , and dimension?

The human body is not perfect, you can personally google the flaws of it. One of my favorites is the one where we can choke because all of our food+air goes through one tube. A dolphin can't choke because they have multiple tubes. We also have a blind spot, muscles that are useless in our feet and the nice ability to get cancer. Do you know who doesn't get cancer? Naked mole rats

Saying that 'do you believe all things happened in coincidence?!!' isn't really a good argument. Each time you play chess/go/a card game you create a position which has an extremely low chance of occurring. Yet you don't stand up and claim it fake.


Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Icedrags on July 26, 2015, 01:23:36 am
What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?

(http://i.aaronmbushnell.com/mindblown.gif)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on July 26, 2015, 02:29:25 am
God exist,
       God exist because you cannot create something without nothing.

Then where did god come from?

. Science proved it, even the "big bang" is caused by something which mean the "big bang" is not the beginning but only act as current unconfirmed final answer by modern science regarding "origin" topic

Yes and if you don't understand something the proper answer is to say 'I don't know'. Do you have proof for your god aside from assertions?

       There are so many mysteries in this world that even science cannot find the answers.Origin of mankind,living things DNA,basic knowledge obtained by newborn (ever wonder how sea turtle hatchlings know how to dig out of the sand and swim to the sea?),and "deja vu" itself cannot be explain by science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instinct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu


   Do you really think that all events happened in coincidence? look at our system, it is prefectly work without flaw and remain in the physics current laws. Don't you think that something out there is controlling all this? Something that is not attached to space , time , and dimension?

The human body is not perfect, you can personally google the flaws of it. One of my favorites is the one where we can choke because all of our food+air goes through one tube. A dolphin can't choke because they have multiple tubes. We also have a blind spot, muscles that are useless in our feet and the nice ability to get cancer. Do you know who doesn't get cancer? Naked mole rats

Saying that 'do you believe all things happened in coincidence?!!' isn't really a good argument. Each time you play chess/go/a card game you create a position which has an extremely low chance of occurring. Yet you don't stand up and claim it fake.

You forgot to put this at the end (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDYjSSiQdkU)


:kappa:






What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?

(http://i.aaronmbushnell.com/mindblown.gif)
damn marek, if we are, then we're a failed experiment :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Chazz on July 26, 2015, 03:07:50 am

What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?
http://i.aaronmbushnell.com/mindblown.gif
damn marek, if we are, then I'm a failed experiment
Fix'd it fer ya
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on July 26, 2015, 05:01:23 am

What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?
http://i.aaronmbushnell.com/mindblown.gif
damn marek, if we are, then Chazz is a failed experiment
Fix'd it fer ya
oi m8 i can also change it :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 08:41:36 am
For those saying that there are no unpredictable happenings , go read about the chaos theory.
As kane said, this topic is becoming a shitstorm since all the overly smart atheists are bashing the religious people because they want proof.
Can you all just be friendly and rational lol?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 09:56:59 am
What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?

(http://i.aaronmbushnell.com/mindblown.gif)

>God is omniscient (most of the time)
>Needs to run tests to which he knows the answer

wat

For those saying that there are no unpredictable happenings , go read about the chaos theory.
As kane said, this topic is becoming a shitstorm since all the overly smart atheists are bashing the religious people because they want proof.
Can you all just be friendly and rational lol?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

I dun geddit.

I'm not bashing people, just politely asking people for proof. Which is rational you know, why believe something without proof?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on July 26, 2015, 10:18:16 am
For those saying that there are no unpredictable happenings , go read about the chaos theory.
As kane said, this topic is becoming a shitstorm since all the overly smart atheists are bashing the religious people because they want proof.
Can you all just be friendly and rational lol?

Asking for proof is the most rational thing one can do in a debate. We could just straight up bash religious people for their lack of proof, but at least Irfox gives them a chance.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on July 26, 2015, 12:08:00 pm
ok, this topic is getting us nowhere, I believe in God, not because I want something from him like marry in a church, or anything else christians and muslims want' I just believe because I want to believe you can call me delusional or an idiot for believing something I can't see and I can call you idiots or anything I want but I wont because being an atheist is your business and me being a believer is my business, People have much other things to worry about in their lives than worry about if God exists or not, I don't have the rights to control your life and tell you to believe and neither do you have the control of my life. Everyone can do the shit they want to do, if you want to believe, then believe, if you can't believe something you can't see, then don't, the person that can force you to believe isnt born yet.

Do the shit that you want to do in your life, and stop worrying about other people lives.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 12:13:17 pm
ok, this topic is getting us nowhere, I believe in God, not because I want something from him like marry in a church, or anything else christians and muslims want' I just believe because I want to believe you can call me delusional or an idiot for believing something I can't see and I can call you idiots or anything I want but I wont because being an atheist is your business and me being a believer is my business, People have much other things to worry about in their lives than worry about if God exists or not, I don't have the rights to control your life and tell you to believe and neither do you have the control of my life. Everyone can do the shit they want to do, if you want to believe, then believe, if you can't believe something you can't see, then don't, the person that can force you to believe isnt born yet.

Do the shit that you want to do in your life, and stop worrying about other people lives.
It's a debate board, why is no one getting that?

If you don't want to debate then stop posting here ffs
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 12:55:50 pm
Quote from: irfox

For those saying that there are no unpredictable happenings , go read about the chaos theory.
As kane said, this topic is becoming a shitstorm since all the overly smart atheists are bashing the religious people because they want proof.
Can you all just be friendly and rational lol?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

I dun geddit.

I'm not bashing people, just politely asking people for proof. Which is rational you know, why believe something without proof?
Chaos theory= there are unpredictable things, you can't predict everything. I said that cos keiskelar and dovahkiin comment
Quote
Do you really think that all events happened in coincidence?
made no sense.
no proof that something exists isn't proof that something can't exist.
When I said that people should be friendly I didn't refer to you, I referred to the other people that are making fun of the believing people.
Most of the atheists are people that think that they are way too smart because they refer to science without even knowing what science is.
Because of this the people start insulting believers with 'idiot' 'delusional' etc.
It really annoys me lol
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 26, 2015, 01:32:02 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?



Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 01:36:38 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 26, 2015, 01:39:08 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from

It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula

if.so.its.their.unpopular.theory.that.they.go.out.to.prove.and.probably.wont.succeed.

afaik:u.cant.predict."everything"

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 01:43:22 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 26, 2015, 01:45:15 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.
It.is.more.likely.that.he.doesnt.exist.just.because.theres.literally.0.0.0.0.proof.of.him?
having.absolutely.fucking.0.proof.of.god.is.a.pretty.fucking.damn.good.proof.for.me.that.states.that.he.doesnt.exist
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 01:54:21 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 26, 2015, 01:57:38 pm
I.have.a.daughter.I.dont.have.any.proof.of.my.claims.BUT.I.TELL.YOU.THAT.I.HAVE.A.DAUGHTER.WHERE.IS.MY.DAUGHTER.OH"GOD".WHERE.IS.MY.DAUGHTER.

mentalhospital/inc
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 02:04:43 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help
Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 02:35:59 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help
Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers


I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:04:57 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help
Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers


I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?
My answer would be no because I know that dragons are big creatures, therefore if they existed they would have been seen by people and they would have been discovered.
they are big, can fly, spit fire and are noticed pretty easy.
Now returning to 'God'.
There isn't a good description of how that 'creature' looks like nor where to find it--> you can't be sure it doesn't exist.
Our knowledge is yet way too smal to make claims like 'god doesn't exist'.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 03:05:56 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help
Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers


I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?
My answer would be no because I know that dragons are big creatures, therefore if they existed they would have been seen by people and they would have been discovered.
they are big, can fly, spit fire and are noticed pretty easy.
Now returning to 'God'.
There isn't a good description of how that 'creature' looks like nor where to find it--> you can't be sure it doesn't exist.
Our knowledge is yet way too smal to make claims like 'god doesn't exist'.

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

That is my dragon, it's invisible and has a ghost form.

Does it exist now? What about leprechauns and wizards that hide from us?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:15:03 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help
Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers


I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?
My answer would be no because I know that dragons are big creatures, therefore if they existed they would have been seen by people and they would have been discovered.
they are big, can fly, spit fire and are noticed pretty easy.
Now returning to 'God'.
There isn't a good description of how that 'creature' looks like nor where to find it--> you can't be sure it doesn't exist.
Our knowledge is yet way too smal to make claims like 'god doesn't exist'.

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

That is my dragon, it's invisible and has a ghost form.

Does it exist now? What about leprechauns and wizards that hide from us?
no, there is a possibility of it existing.
leprechauns and wizards are imaginary creatures that people came up with.
It is known that they are made up because people told other people they made em up.
It's unknown if God is made up or there really were visions and all that crap.
People could be refering to other creatures as God without us knowing they meant those creatures.
There are so many questions about this subject that aren't aswered yet, therefore you can't be claiming things like 'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist " or 'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 26, 2015, 03:17:14 pm
Irfox, could you tell me who created 'us' or how did we come? I really want an Atheist to come up with an answer to this question
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:18:18 pm
Irfox, could you tell me who created 'us' or how did we come? I really want an Atheist to come up with an answer to this question
Evolution and big bang lol
Big bang occured cos of random perfect circumstances
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 26, 2015, 03:19:06 pm
Irfox, could you tell me who created 'us' or how did we come? I really want an Atheist to come up with an answer to this question
Because god snapping his fingers and saying "let there be light" makes a lot of sense.


Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.

Irfox, could you tell me who created 'us' or how did we come? I really want an Atheist to come up with an answer to this question
Evolution and big bang lol
Big bang occured cos of random perfect circumstances
You do realise it took millions upon millions of years for what we call "life" to come into existance after the big bang, right?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 03:19:37 pm
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help
Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers


I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?
My answer would be no because I know that dragons are big creatures, therefore if they existed they would have been seen by people and they would have been discovered.
they are big, can fly, spit fire and are noticed pretty easy.
Now returning to 'God'.
There isn't a good description of how that 'creature' looks like nor where to find it--> you can't be sure it doesn't exist.
Our knowledge is yet way too smal to make claims like 'god doesn't exist'.

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

That is my dragon, it's invisible and has a ghost form.

Does it exist now? What about leprechauns and wizards that hide from us?
no, there is a possibility of it existing.
leprechauns and wizards are imaginary creatures that people came up with.
It is known that they are made up because people told other people they made em up.
It's unknown if God is made up or there really were visions and all that crap.
People could be refering to other creatures as God without us knowing they meant those creatures.
There are so many questions about this subject that aren't aswered yet, therefore you can't be claiming things like 'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist " or 'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'

So if your girlfriend/boss/whatever asks you if unicorns exist would you say  'there is a possibility'  ?

What about people that claim to have seen aliens? Do you think it is possible they are speaking the truth?

Do you believe in russells teapot? it MIGHT be there

Irfox, could you tell me who created 'us' or how did we come? I really want an Atheist to come up with an answer to this question

You're presenting a loaded question by saying 'created'. And the answer is I don't know, go ask a biologist.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:23:06 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 03:24:04 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:25:49 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 26, 2015, 03:26:22 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.
A matter like the Earths shape is something that can be proven, spiritual beings like God can't be proven that they exist or not, it's all a matter of belief. If you don't believe in god, good for you. If you believe in god, good for you.

Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.
And what if i say god is a mythological creature? Mythological creatures exist in history books because there were once people who believed in them. Wether they actually existed or not can't be proven unless you find a corpse or a fossil or something like that. The same could be said about god. "But the bible says he exists!" Yeah well next to me is Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, does that mean there's a castle on some rocks filled with wizards in the middle of the sea? The difference is that Harry Potter is confirmed fiction, but we can't know that about any old religion because nobody on the planet is 2015 years old (just taking christianity as an example)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 03:26:56 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.


Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:27:13 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.
A matter like the Earths shape is something that can be proven, spiritual beings like God can't be proven that they exist or not, it's all a matter of belief. If you don't believe in god, good for you. If you believe in god, good for you.
how are you so certain that it can't be proven?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:28:16 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.


Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?
same argument as for the mythological creatures, the story is made up and it's very unlikely that a made up story is reality.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 03:28:47 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.


Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?
same argument as for the mythological creatures, the story is made up and it's very unlikely that a made up story is reality.

How do you know the story is made up? I didn't say the wizards OF harry potter. I said wizards like them
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:30:30 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.


Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?
same argument as for the mythological creatures, the story is made up and it's very unlikely that a made up story is reality.

How do you know the story is made up? I didn't say the wizards OF harry potter. I said wizards like them
Harry potter is a fictional sstor, the world and system of harry pottee is made up.
Less likely to be true
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 03:31:02 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.


Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?
same argument as for the mythological creatures, the story is made up and it's very unlikely that a made up story is reality.

How do you know the story is made up? I didn't say the wizards OF harry potter. I said wizards like them
Harry potter is a fictional sstor, the world and system of harry pottee is made up.
Less likely to be true
>Less likely, so you admit there is a possibility of them existing?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 26, 2015, 03:32:39 pm
are.there.people.out.there.that.are.religious.and.can.summarize.their.religion.to.me.
the.origin.of.their.religion.etcetc

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:33:02 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.


Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?
same argument as for the mythological creatures, the story is made up and it's very unlikely that a made up story is reality.

How do you know the story is made up? I didn't say the wizards OF harry potter. I said wizards like them
Harry potter is a fictional sstor, the world and system of harry pottee is made up.
Less likely to be true
>Less likely, so you admit there is a possibility of them existing?
I believe that everything that isn't proven to be untrue to exist.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 26, 2015, 03:33:28 pm
Harry potter is a fictional sstor, the world and system of harry pottee is made up.
Less likely to be true
I could make the same argument about god and jesus.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 26, 2015, 03:34:46 pm
Quote
'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist "
This is completely fine to say. It's just as acceptable to say that as saying "I'm 100% sure god exists."
Quote
'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'
Only people that can't accept that there are other cultures and beliefs than their own say this.
You are right, I didn't express myself the right way.
You can believe that something is true but that doesn't make it true.
You can say that you are certain without being certain.
People said 'I'm 100% sure that the earth is flat', then a genius came and told em all to fuck off---> their certanity was proven wrong.
This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.
About the 2nd part of your reply.
A lot of atheists are like that, and you can see it in this topic.
They are so sure about their own genius brain that they tell everyone else to fuck off.
most of the atheists I know are ignorant and mean as fuck.

''This can happen with the question whether God exists or not.''

Also with every other mythological being, but for some reason lets pick god.
less likely since it's known that mythological creatures are made up and you can use my argument that I gave against your dragon in this situtation aswell.
If they existed they would have been noticed.


Yeah and if god existed they would have been noticed too.

What about the wizards like those of harry potter? What if there are wizards but they hide from us?
same argument as for the mythological creatures, the story is made up and it's very unlikely that a made up story is reality.

How do you know the story is made up? I didn't say the wizards OF harry potter. I said wizards like them
Harry potter is a fictional sstor, the world and system of harry pottee is made up.
Less likely to be true
>Less likely, so you admit there is a possibility of them existing?
I believe that everything that isn't proven to be untrue to exist.
That.is.the.single.most.idiotic.sentence.I.have.ever.read.
You.will.get.cancer.in.5.years.I.have.no.proof.of.it.but.you.will.now.spend.5.years.of.your.life.beliving.that.you.will.get.cancer.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:35:02 pm
Harry potter is a fictional sstor, the world and system of harry pottee is made up.
Less likely to be true
I could make the same argument about god and jesus.
Proof that it is all made up
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 26, 2015, 03:35:57 pm
Harry potter is a fictional sstor, the world and system of harry pottee is made up.
Less likely to be true
I could make the same argument about god and jesus.
Proof that it is all made up
Prove that wizards aren't real. What if I am one
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 26, 2015, 03:49:26 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 03:50:38 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
???
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 26, 2015, 03:52:40 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
???
You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?
Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula
It.is.thought.by.millions.of.religous.people.that.god.is.explainable.when.you.dont.have.anything.to.go.off.from
The existence of God isn't proven.
The imposibility of the existence of God isn't proven aswell.

This counts for unicorns too, doesn't mean it makes sense to believe in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof

As long as religious people can't prove god exists, it's fine for me to say that he doesn't.

Saying 'there is no evidence that god DOESN'T exist hurr durr' doesn't really help
Your link to the argument of ignorance wikipedia page isn't well placed imo.
I never said that god exists because it isn't proven that he doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of him existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that he doesn't exist.
---> atheists should stop insulting the believers


I never said that dragons exists because it isn't proven that dragons doesn't exist, I said that there is a possibility of dragons existing and that noone can say with 100% certainty that dragons doesn't exist.

So if I asked you if you think dragons may exist you would answer that you're not sure? Does this count for everything that 'has a possibility of existing' or only for god?
My answer would be no because I know that dragons are big creatures, therefore if they existed they would have been seen by people and they would have been discovered.
they are big, can fly, spit fire and are noticed pretty easy.
Now returning to 'God'.
There isn't a good description of how that 'creature' looks like nor where to find it--> you can't be sure it doesn't exist.
Our knowledge is yet way too smal to make claims like 'god doesn't exist'.

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm

That is my dragon, it's invisible and has a ghost form.

Does it exist now? What about leprechauns and wizards that hide from us?
no, there is a possibility of it existing.
leprechauns and wizards are imaginary creatures that people came up with.
It is known that they are made up because people told other people they made em up.
It's unknown if God is made up or there really were visions and all that crap.
People could be refering to other creatures as God without us knowing they meant those creatures.
There are so many questions about this subject that aren't aswered yet, therefore you can't be claiming things like 'I'm 100% sure God doesn't exist " or 'everyone that believes in God is a delusional idiot'

So if your girlfriend/boss/whatever asks you if unicorns exist would you say  'there is a possibility'  ?

What about people that claim to have seen aliens? Do you think it is possible they are speaking the truth?

Do you believe in russells teapot? it MIGHT be there

Irfox, could you tell me who created 'us' or how did we come? I really want an Atheist to come up with an answer to this question

You're presenting a loaded question by saying 'created'. And the answer is I don't know, go ask a biologist.
....

And for those who think that 'big bang' is the cause of life's existence, I SAY BULLSHIT. That's just so dumb lmao.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 26, 2015, 03:54:31 pm
I think god is dumb. Your own personal belief doesn't unvalidate my opinion. That's just saying "I'm right and you're wrong because reasons"
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 03:56:33 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 26, 2015, 04:21:00 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
english.pls ::)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 26, 2015, 04:48:03 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?
You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on July 26, 2015, 04:49:55 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?
But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.
This whole topic is about wether we believe such a being exists or not.. he clearly already stated he does not believe in something like that
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 26, 2015, 04:52:49 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?
But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.
This whole topic is about wether we believe such a being exists or not.. he clearly already stated he does not believe in something like that
'debate'

And I was not really specific to Irfox
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 04:54:29 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?
You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

Just don't post in this topic
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on July 26, 2015, 06:15:20 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?
You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

Just don't post in this topic
I'm debating the existence of God from my perspective?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 06:32:39 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?
You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

Just don't post in this topic
I'm debating the existence of God from my perspective?

''I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing.''

'' But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh.  ''

Debate is over
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 26, 2015, 06:55:07 pm
What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?
But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.
This whole topic is about wether we believe such a being exists or not.. he clearly already stated he does not believe in something like that

What does this has to do with biology ???

And since you don't know, here it comes to the middle of our argument that made it suspicious for you, "I don't believe in God, but I don't know how are we existed. "
Abiogenesis then

So if you don't know how something came to be, I have to make up some stuff?
You don't believe in God as well as you don't know how People existed. I didn't 'make' God as you say, I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing. I don't know about any of your childhood beliefs or whatsoever you call it, maybe if you were raised as Theist, you'd agree with me. But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh. But I bet you're certain that there is something above us, above the universe, taking control from too far.

Just don't post in this topic
I'm debating the existence of God from my perspective?

''I was born that way (believing in God), taught that way, won't change that way cuz I'm certan it's the right thing.''

'' But for real, if you want a proof of God, logically I can't give you one, nor anyone could tbh.  ''

Debate is over

We believe in Allah, and you people ask us why you believe in something that doesn't exist or have seen before, Just a question. Does it really bother you or tickles ur ankle to know why?

Lets put it in this way
We believe in Allah And we know that he EXISTS, proofs are, 1 The universe HAVE NOT EXISTED ALONE LIKE THIS someone has to be wise to predict what will happen if he/she/it did this or that 2, How did the humans EXIST in the first place? Allah has created us adding every single system in our bodies(Believe it or not its true) 3, You are right now on the computer, who created the computer, it was Charles Babbage, Who created Charles? who gave Charles the brain to think and create something that we're currently using?

Believe it or not, WE Believe that Allah exists and if it really bothers that you guys think we believe in something that doesn't exist, Then you must go take some religion classes...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 26, 2015, 06:59:46 pm
ALLAH.EXISTS?-go.take.religion.classes.

its.a.debate.about.religion.not.only.your.god.yet.allya.like."our.god.exists"
tell.me.more.about.your.religion.not.some.bs.about.god

ok.you.believe.in.allah.what.religion.is.it?Why.do.you.like.that.religion.and.what.makes.it.great?DONT.SAY.ALLAH.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Irfox on July 26, 2015, 07:04:58 pm


We believe in Allah, and you people ask us why you believe in something that doesn't exist or have seen before, Just a question. Does it really bother you or tickles ur ankle to know why?

Lets put it in this way
We believe in Allah And we know that he EXISTS, proofs are, 1 The universe HAVE NOT EXISTED ALONE LIKE THIS someone has to be wise to predict what will happen if he/she/it did this or that 2, How did the humans EXIST in the first place? Allah has created us adding every single system in our bodies(Believe it or not its true) 3, You are right now on the computer, who created the computer, it was Charles Babbage, Who created Charles? who gave Charles the brain to think and create something that we're currently using?

Believe it or not, WE Believe that Allah exists and if it really bothers that you guys think we believe in something that doesn't exist, Then you must go take some religion classes...

1. How do you know this? The worlds smartest scientists aren't sure but yet you are?
2. I don't know, do you?
3. The 'first cause' argument doesn't need to point to a god, it can point towards an object as well. And it certainly doesn't need to point towards your god.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 26, 2015, 07:19:10 pm
ALLAH.EXISTS?-go.take.religion.classes.

its.a.debate.about.religion.not.only.your.god.yet.allya.like."our.god.exists"
tell.me.more.about.your.religion.not.some.bs.about.god

ok.you.believe.in.allah.what.religion.is.it?Why.do.you.like.that.religion.and.what.makes.it.great?DONT.SAY.ALLAH.
The religion is Islam(Deen Allah)
I love this religion because i want to follow the Prophets and Allah, It will guide my path to the right way.
Because my religion will guide me to glory and happiness in this life and the afterlife

And this is from my opinion.(other people have other opinions)


We believe in Allah, and you people ask us why you believe in something that doesn't exist or have seen before, Just a question. Does it really bother you or tickles ur ankle to know why?

Lets put it in this way
We believe in Allah And we know that he EXISTS, proofs are, 1 The universe HAVE NOT EXISTED ALONE LIKE THIS someone has to be wise to predict what will happen if he/she/it did this or that 2, How did the humans EXIST in the first place? Allah has created us adding every single system in our bodies(Believe it or not its true) 3, You are right now on the computer, who created the computer, it was Charles Babbage, Who created Charles? who gave Charles the brain to think and create something that we're currently using?

Believe it or not, WE Believe that Allah exists and if it really bothers that you guys think we believe in something that doesn't exist, Then you must go take some religion classes...

1. How do you know this? The worlds smartest scientists aren't sure but yet you are?
2. I don't know, do you?
3. The 'first cause' argument doesn't need to point to a god, it can point towards an object as well. And it certainly doesn't need to point towards your god.

Because I read the Holy Qu'ran and the Qu'ran has came from Allah to Prophet Mohammad
The same answer as 1 It's all written in Qu'ran, It tells that humans have been created from Clay/mud i dont know we have to meanings in arabic.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 26, 2015, 07:29:04 pm
But.I.dont.think.you.need.religion.to.live.your.life.in.a.very.mannerable.way ::) ::)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 26, 2015, 07:32:23 pm
But.I.dont.think.you.need.religion.to.live.your.life.in.a.very.mannerable.way ::) ::)
That is your opinion

Btw lets just keep this calm.

I need to get some subway
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on July 26, 2015, 10:28:50 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kaner on July 26, 2015, 10:39:39 pm
Why would one want to believe in god? What benefits do you get for believing in "him"?

What will happen to the none believers?

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 27, 2015, 07:20:23 am
Why would one want to believe in god? What benefits do you get for believing in "him"?

What will happen to the none believers?
Bubblebeam expressed it very well.
People feel controlled and want to live good cis otherwise hell.
--->people behave more properly cos they believe that their good deeds will be seen and they will get an award for it.
So another theory could be that the bible was created by a group of people to make the world better with an imaginary all knowing creature.
But again, we can't know that for sure.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 27, 2015, 09:45:28 am
Why would one want to believe in god? What benefits do you get for believing in "him"?

What will happen to the none believers?
That question mate, i don't know how to answer it.
It's up to you if you want to believe in god.
About benefits i've already stated it above(my opinions).
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on July 27, 2015, 11:54:48 am
The people who have absolutely no goddamn idea what debating is, please quit posting on this thread. Debating board = debating threads, just like showcase board = showcase threads, screenshot board = screenshot threads, suggestions & ideas board = suggestions & ideas threads and so on.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 05:37:42 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on July 27, 2015, 06:41:37 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.
If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 27, 2015, 07:12:33 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.
I've seen this in the news, and I actually have no idea about this AT all. The current war in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) are trying to show that Islam is a bad religion.
But, thanks for reminding me Avenus, It kinda itches me why he would write 'God' on wall..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 07:13:01 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.
If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 27, 2015, 07:25:59 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.
If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.
I still don't believe it. It is kinda suprising me but i won't believe it.
It cud be a lie(not sure)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 08:41:12 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.
If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.
I still don't believe it. It is kinda suprising me but i won't believe it.
It cud be a lie(not sure)

LIE WTF????
I LIVE IN NORWAY, in norway shit like this rarely happends besides the other guy who was a psychopat 22/7/11.
If something like this happends, it get broadcasted on the national channel run by government for freaking years in here.
All newspaper wrote about it. And you could see a video a neighbour took from when the man was crawling outside to the street from the apartment (the guy who didnt die).
So no this is not bullshit. He wrote God on the wall cause as he said himself, he got a vision from god.

Its not something you cant believe because its true lol.
This is proven with death, stabs and coma. Pictures, videoes and witnesses.
If we relate this to God on the other hand.

No pictures - just imagination, no witnesses - just people hoping.
We are in 2015, growing up religious is starting to get more and more unusual now because former religious people
can see that it is bullshit. And the numbers will keep raising, and one day you will realize the same.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 27, 2015, 08:47:28 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.
If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.
I still don't believe it. It is kinda suprising me but i won't believe it.
It cud be a lie(not sure)

LIE WTF????
I LIVE IN NORWAY, in norway shit like this rarely happends besides the other guy who was a psychopat 22/7/11.
If something like this happends, it get broadcasted on the national channel run by government for freaking years in here.
All newspaper wrote about it. And you could see a video a neighbour took from when the man was crawling outside to the street from the apartment (the guy who didnt die).
So no this is not bullshit. He wrote God on the wall cause as he said himself, he got a vision from god.

Its not something you cant believe because its true lol.
This is proven with death, stabs and coma. Pictures, videoes and witnesses.
If we relate this to God on the other hand.

No pictures - just imagination, no witnesses - just people hoping.
We are in 2015, growing up religious is starting to get more and more unusual now because former religious people
can see that it is bullshit. And the numbers will keep raising, and one day you will realize the same.
Why it happened in Norway? That's what tickles me also.
When i ment by lying is that THE Guy who murdered these people might be lying Who knows?

Why it happened in Norway, Between all the countries Why Norway?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on July 27, 2015, 08:51:54 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.
If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.
I still don't believe it. It is kinda suprising me but i won't believe it.
It cud be a lie(not sure)

LIE WTF????
I LIVE IN NORWAY, in norway shit like this rarely happends besides the other guy who was a psychopat 22/7/11.
If something like this happends, it get broadcasted on the national channel run by government for freaking years in here.
All newspaper wrote about it. And you could see a video a neighbour took from when the man was crawling outside to the street from the apartment (the guy who didnt die).
So no this is not bullshit. He wrote God on the wall cause as he said himself, he got a vision from god.

Its not something you cant believe because its true lol.
This is proven with death, stabs and coma. Pictures, videoes and witnesses.
If we relate this to God on the other hand.

No pictures - just imagination, no witnesses - just people hoping.
We are in 2015, growing up religious is starting to get more and more unusual now because former religious people
can see that it is bullshit. And the numbers will keep raising, and one day you will realize the same.
Why it happened in Norway? That's what tickles me also.
When i ment by lying is that THE Guy who murdered these people might be lying Who knows?

Why it happened in Norway, Between all the countries Why Norway?

He lives in Norway, therefore he knows pretty well what has happened specifically in Norway ???

 In addition to what Avenus has told so far, I know that there has been multiple terrorist attacks as well, car bombs and stuff.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on July 27, 2015, 09:02:56 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.
If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.
I still don't believe it. It is kinda suprising me but i won't believe it.
It cud be a lie(not sure)

LIE WTF????
I LIVE IN NORWAY, in norway shit like this rarely happends besides the other guy who was a psychopat 22/7/11.
If something like this happends, it get broadcasted on the national channel run by government for freaking years in here.
All newspaper wrote about it. And you could see a video a neighbour took from when the man was crawling outside to the street from the apartment (the guy who didnt die).
So no this is not bullshit. He wrote God on the wall cause as he said himself, he got a vision from god.

Its not something you cant believe because its true lol.
This is proven with death, stabs and coma. Pictures, videoes and witnesses.
If we relate this to God on the other hand.

No pictures - just imagination, no witnesses - just people hoping.
We are in 2015, growing up religious is starting to get more and more unusual now because former religious people
can see that it is bullshit. And the numbers will keep raising, and one day you will realize the same.
Why it happened in Norway? That's what tickles me also.
When i ment by lying is that THE Guy who murdered these people might be lying Who knows?

Why it happened in Norway, Between all the countries Why Norway?

The murder lied? He killed only one? One person survived, but is permantly damaged for life.
He told what he remembered, the murder told what happened to him.
Thats why we know what happened. Thats why they know what happened.
Why Norway? What kind of question is that?

Why did 9/11 happend in New York?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 27, 2015, 09:17:44 pm
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?
In Norway, in 2011. 3 friends where hanging out. They was all 21 years old and had been friends since childhood.
The guys place they where in, he was expecting a child, and recently engaged his girlfriend.
This was on Halloween.

They where all sleeping, until one off the guys came into a psychosis if you can call it that.
He had a vision, from God. To kill both off his friends, otherwise he wouldnt come to heaven.
So what the fuck you think he did? Went to the kitchen. Found a knife. Stabbed the guy who was expecting
a child 19 times in the chest, face and legs. Killed him instantly. Dragged him too a wall, cut him up and wrote GOD on the wall with his blood.

The other guy who was sleeping. He got stabbed 15 times, but managed to run out on the street and get in a taxi car standing on the outside.
He got a ride to the hospital asap but fell in a coma and was there for 3 months. He was lucky to survive but with permanent damages for the rest off his life.

What caused this shit?

A vision from god. So dont come tell me god is all good and shit, because he is not. Religion cause war, and thats it. Who is the biggest murder off all time?
God, if you read the christian bible. He killed more people than all the nazis ever could during ww2.




But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works.
If there was no religion that guy wouldn't have killed anyone?
He is a psycho and he will find another reason to kill if needed.
You can't blame religion for that murder

I can?
He got the vision from God. He would be going to hell if he didnt.
What other psycho story can you relate to this? Nothing.
I still don't believe it. It is kinda suprising me but i won't believe it.
It cud be a lie(not sure)

LIE WTF????
I LIVE IN NORWAY, in norway shit like this rarely happends besides the other guy who was a psychopat 22/7/11.
If something like this happends, it get broadcasted on the national channel run by government for freaking years in here.
All newspaper wrote about it. And you could see a video a neighbour took from when the man was crawling outside to the street from the apartment (the guy who didnt die).
So no this is not bullshit. He wrote God on the wall cause as he said himself, he got a vision from god.

Its not something you cant believe because its true lol.
This is proven with death, stabs and coma. Pictures, videoes and witnesses.
If we relate this to God on the other hand.

No pictures - just imagination, no witnesses - just people hoping.
We are in 2015, growing up religious is starting to get more and more unusual now because former religious people
can see that it is bullshit. And the numbers will keep raising, and one day you will realize the same.
Why it happened in Norway? That's what tickles me also.
When i ment by lying is that THE Guy who murdered these people might be lying Who knows?

Why it happened in Norway, Between all the countries Why Norway?

The murder lied? He killed only one? One person survived, but is permantly damaged for life.
He told what he remembered, the murder told what happened to him.
Thats why we know what happened. Thats why they know what happened.
Why Norway? What kind of question is that?

Why did 9/11 happend in New York?
Honestly, idk how to reply. it's kinda awkward to me Why would they attack other countries for no specific reson. Is it because of hate or Ruining the picture of the religion they believe in..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Il Skill L on July 27, 2015, 09:35:48 pm
It has nothing to do with religion if a person murders someone and tells it was because of a vision from god. That guy must have been ill and he needs special treatment from doctors. *even tho he most likely will never be 100% fine again*
I bet there have been thousands of murderers who acted because of some kind of voices they heard inside their heads. This Norwegian case is no different.


Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 27, 2015, 09:57:17 pm
It has nothing to do with religion if a person murders someone and tells it was because of a vision from god. That guy must have been ill and he needs special treatment from doctors. *even tho he most likely will never be 100% fine again*
I bet there have been thousands of murderers who acted because of some kind of voices they heard inside their heads. This Norwegian case is no different.
I know, but Why like why? Is it just because they want to ruin the picture of the religion he believes in or something? is it just some kind of hatred towards this religion or that.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on July 27, 2015, 10:03:06 pm
It has nothing to do with religion if a person murders someone and tells it was because of a vision from god. That guy must have been ill and he needs special treatment from doctors. *even tho he most likely will never be 100% fine again*
I bet there have been thousands of murderers who acted because of some kind of voices they heard inside their heads. This Norwegian case is no different.
I know, but Why like why? Is it just because they want to ruin the picture of the religion he believes in or something? is it just some kind of hatred towards this religion or that.
often characterized by abnormal social behavior and failure to recognize what is real. Common symptoms include false beliefs, unclear or confused thinking, auditory hallucinations, reduced social engagement and emotional expression, and lack of motivation. Diagnosis is based on observed behavior and the person's reported experiences.

Individuals with schizophrenia may experience hallucinations (most reported are hearing voices), delusions (often bizarre or persecutory in nature), and disorganized thinking and speech. The last may range from loss of train of thought, to sentences only loosely connected in meaning, to speech that is not understandable known as word salad in severe cases.

Now.excuse.me.for.not.wanting.to.google.schizophrenia.in.the.middle.of.night
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on July 28, 2015, 03:07:10 am
I believe religions were created to give SOME people a push in the right direction. For SOME ,  believing in a higher power can help them become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Blue Bird on July 28, 2015, 03:43:54 am
i believe in everything that i can and cant c
but im blind so basicly i believe in everything
not sure what the things is yet..
i <3 Dogs
Title: “Hey, Christian, have you read the bible?”
Post by: Avenus on July 28, 2015, 10:34:03 am
i suggest you all "believers" to read this...

http://www.atheismresource.com/2011/hey-christian-read-bible-15-year-atheist-christian-school-speaks-out

"But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true."
Title: Re: “Hey, Christian, have you read the bible?”
Post by: Ashootsh on July 28, 2015, 10:52:07 am
i suggest you all "believers" to read this...

http://www.atheismresource.com/2011/hey-christian-read-bible-15-year-atheist-christian-school-speaks-out

"But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true."

So I encourage you to go out, whoever you are, whatever religion you are: read about your own religion, and read about someone else’s too. Maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer. But at the very least, you will know a little more about the world. As the motto goes, knowledge is power.

^ is from the link
Could take a peak to read someone's else religion... As she said Knowledge is Power.
Title: Re: “Hey, Christian, have you read the bible?”
Post by: Avenus on July 28, 2015, 10:56:35 am
i suggest you all "believers" to read this...

http://www.atheismresource.com/2011/hey-christian-read-bible-15-year-atheist-christian-school-speaks-out

"But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true."

So I encourage you to go out, whoever you are, whatever religion you are: read about your own religion, and read about someone else’s too. Maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer. But at the very least, you will know a little more about the world. As the motto goes, knowledge is power.

^ is from the link
Could take a peak to read someone's else religion... As she said Knowledge is Power.

True. But then again, i have taken a peak in every religion after having religion as a subject in school for 13 years now.
Title: Re: “Hey, Christian, have you read the bible?”
Post by: Il Skill L on July 28, 2015, 03:33:31 pm
i suggest you all "believers" to read this...

http://www.atheismresource.com/2011/hey-christian-read-bible-15-year-atheist-christian-school-speaks-out

"But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true."

So I encourage you to go out, whoever you are, whatever religion you are: read about your own religion, and read about someone else’s too. Maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer. But at the very least, you will know a little more about the world. As the motto goes, knowledge is power.

^ is from the link
Could take a peak to read someone's else religion... As she said Knowledge is Power.

True. But then again, i have taken a peak in every religion after having religion as a subject in school for 13 years now.
To me it seems like your teacher has done some crappy work then because you're just being disrespectful towards different religions.
Title: Re: “Hey, Christian, have you read the bible?”
Post by: Avenus on July 28, 2015, 04:50:17 pm
i suggest you all "believers" to read this...

http://www.atheismresource.com/2011/hey-christian-read-bible-15-year-atheist-christian-school-speaks-out

"But back to the original question of how I can read about the wondrous miracles of God and be an Atheist. It’s easy, all I had to do was actually read the miracles, and after reading them I don’t know how anyone could be Christian knowing what they say they think is true."

So I encourage you to go out, whoever you are, whatever religion you are: read about your own religion, and read about someone else’s too. Maybe you will realize that you have wasted years listening to someone scam for your money, or maybe you become convinced that you have found the true answer. But at the very least, you will know a little more about the world. As the motto goes, knowledge is power.

^ is from the link
Could take a peak to read someone's else religion... As she said Knowledge is Power.

True. But then again, i have taken a peak in every religion after having religion as a subject in school for 13 years now.
To me it seems like your teacher has done some crappy work then because you're just being disrespectful towards different religions.

Haha you are one funny crybaby.
Teacher? More like teachers. Its through different schools and grades. In Norway.
It's normal to change all your teachers once a year besides the first 1-7years.

What it seems like to you doesn't matter to anyone. This is a debate topic about religion. Not me not you. But then again. I want you to show me where i have been dissing and bashing religions.

Ontopicagain.

What is the difference between believing in superheroes and god?
Is there any? You tell me.
Would it be wrong to tell someone who believes in superman and other heroes that he/she is wrong?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Il Skill L on July 28, 2015, 05:32:52 pm
You said that religion caused psycho related bullshit. Also you said that god is the biggest murderer and questioned his nature.. Even tho I am not religious i'm pretty sure thats offensive towards people who believe.

"What it seems like to you doesn't matter to anyone. " ???
Also why are you calling me a "crybaby"?
You make all those long ass replies and try to make religion look bad and now you're calling me a crybaby?

Also superheroes haven't been talked about for thousands of years. Believing in superheroes isn't as popular as any religion is. Why would you want to prove anyone religious wrong anyways? As far as i'm concerned you can be a Brony and believe in those little ponies too. If this helps you to live your life better and make better choices then go ahead. I'm not going to judge you.

Also i don't need to be told about European school systems. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 28, 2015, 05:39:35 pm
You said that religion caused psycho related bullshit. Also you said that god is the biggest murderer and questioned his nature.. Even tho I am not religious i'm pretty sure thats offensive towards people who believe.

"What it seems like to you doesn't matter to anyone. " ???
Also why are you calling me a "crybaby"?
You make all those long ass replies and try to make religion look bad and now you're calling me a crybaby?
It's not the first time that Our god has been offended.
We can't do anything about it, If they really hate our god because they think he/she/it a murderer, that's their opinion.

We tried defending and showin that our god is peaceful and wise god. But they seem to not be affected by it. As i stated. It's their opinion on what god is.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Il Skill L on July 28, 2015, 05:43:39 pm
You said that religion caused psycho related bullshit. Also you said that god is the biggest murderer and questioned his nature.. Even tho I am not religious i'm pretty sure thats offensive towards people who believe.

"What it seems like to you doesn't matter to anyone. " ???
Also why are you calling me a "crybaby"?
You make all those long ass replies and try to make religion look bad and now you're calling me a crybaby?
It's not the first time that Our god has been offended.
We can't do anything about it, If they really hate our god because they think he/she/it a murderer, that's their opinion.

We tried defending and showin that our god is peaceful and wise god. But they seem to not be affected by it. As i stated. It's their opinion on what god is.
It's all that Charlie Hebdo shit all over again.
I find Islam to be incredibly interesting and peaceful religion.
I believe that your god and religion have been offended so much because people just know nothing about Islam and its something different for them. And different people(for example black and white people, lesbians and homos and so on) have always been kind of discriminated.


You wrote in bold for us not to go personal but that's what you're doing Avenus.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Saligta5 on July 28, 2015, 06:49:00 pm
Do you believe in a God? No
Why do you believe in God? Because i dont
Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe? Better because i dont have to waste time for worshipping it
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on July 28, 2015, 07:51:13 pm
You said that religion caused psycho related bullshit. Also you said that god is the biggest murderer and questioned his nature.. Even tho I am not religious i'm pretty sure thats offensive towards people who believe.

"What it seems like to you doesn't matter to anyone. " ???
Also why are you calling me a "crybaby"?
You make all those long ass replies and try to make religion look bad and now you're calling me a crybaby?

Also superheroes haven't been talked about for thousands of years. Believing in superheroes isn't as popular as any religion is. Why would you want to prove anyone religious wrong anyways? As far as i'm concerned you can be a Brony and believe in those little ponies too. If this helps you to live your life better and make better choices then go ahead. I'm not going to judge you.

Also i don't need to be told about European school systems. Thank you very much.

Delusional as always. You only read what you want to read.
As you can see Bubblebeam commented ->
Quote
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

He said there is nothing wrong with religion. That it was created to give some people a push in the right direction.
Then i asked a question. Mark question. Hence why i used this sign "?".
And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?

^That is my exact quote. So don't come here tell me that i wrote if you can't even read.

Quote
You said that religion caused psycho related bullshit. Also you said that god is the biggest murderer and questioned his nature.
I didnt say nor stated. I questioned. And i also gave an example off something that happened in Norway.
The coroners concluded after hundreds off house with interview with the "murderer" that he was in a psychosis.
Where he thought or atleast claimed that he was speaking to God. What i didn't state before now.
Is that he smoked marijuana hourse before this, and came in the psychosis while they all where sleeping.
And then he "got the vision from god".

So my question again is. What if there was no religion? Would something else tip him off?
Something strong as thinking he would go straight to hell?

Then i wrote under, in same comment:
"But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works."


You also said: You make all those long ass replies and try to make religion look bad and now you're calling me a crybaby?
Long ass replies? I got no long ass replies in this topic yet but my first one where i told a story. I dont try to make religion look bad, it's not why i made the topic. If people want to believe its their choice. What i want to know, hence the reason i made the topic is [...]. That i wanted to discuss this exact sentence: Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe?. I had this debate with my gf 2 days before i made the topic, and then i had it with some friends the night before when we were out and drunk and just discussing this. So i made the thread instead to see what people around the world think. Because in my area it's pretty much onesided.

Oh and BTW HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE BIBLE??? Cause i have. And god is the biggest murder off all in there.
If you even try to come tell me something else then you can just travel on a 10 year vacation to bahamas and start reading the bible.
Cause you got no clue if not.

You also said that "Also superheroes haven't been talked about for thousands of years"
They haven't? Have you been to the cinema past 2 decades? Or dont you have cinema in estonia?  ::)
Havent you looked in the bookshelves off your libraries that i bet you have?
Thousands of years? Most absurd thing i have read today lmfao.

Greek gods, ancient mythology. Maybe. Superheroes. Nty.

And you also said "If this helps you to live your life better and make better choices then go ahead".
Are you now saying that something is the correct way to believe? Because if he make good choices as a christian.
He couldnt have med good choices as an atheist? Or budhist?. What you said in that sentence, is the real offending thing in here.
Because after what i have experienced. There is no blueprint on how to live life.

You might follow ISIS and believe in what they believe in. As long as they make "better choices" for themselves it's ok?
You're tripping. Tripping realllllllllllll bad.

Also i don't need to be told about European school systems. Thank you very much.
Scandinavian school system and european school system is not the same. Dont come here and tell me you know how my school system work unless you went through the grades.
You need to be told a lot off stuff, like get away from my topic until you learn to reflect comments. You are so obsessed with me and my comments in here that you are blindfolded
and can't see what i respond to. You went personal, not me.

^Now that is a long ass reply.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 28, 2015, 08:08:29 pm
You said that religion caused psycho related bullshit. Also you said that god is the biggest murderer and questioned his nature.. Even tho I am not religious i'm pretty sure thats offensive towards people who believe.

"What it seems like to you doesn't matter to anyone. " ???
Also why are you calling me a "crybaby"?
You make all those long ass replies and try to make religion look bad and now you're calling me a crybaby?

Also superheroes haven't been talked about for thousands of years. Believing in superheroes isn't as popular as any religion is. Why would you want to prove anyone religious wrong anyways? As far as i'm concerned you can be a Brony and believe in those little ponies too. If this helps you to live your life better and make better choices then go ahead. I'm not going to judge you.

Also i don't need to be told about European school systems. Thank you very much.

Delusional as always. You only read what you want to read.
As you can see Bubblebeam commented ->
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I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.

He said there is nothing wrong with religion. That it was created to give some people a push in the right direction.
Then i asked a question. Mark question. Hence why i used this sign "?".
And religion hasnt caused war or anything psycho related bullshit?

^That is my exact quote. So don't come here tell me that i wrote if you can't even read.

Quote
You said that religion caused psycho related bullshit. Also you said that god is the biggest murderer and questioned his nature.
I didnt say nor stated. I questioned. And i also gave an example off something that happened in Norway.
The coroners concluded after hundreds off house with interview with the "murderer" that he was in a psychosis.
Where he thought or atleast claimed that he was speaking to God. What i didn't state before now.
Is that he smoked marijuana hourse before this, and came in the psychosis while they all where sleeping.
And then he "got the vision from god".

So my question again is. What if there was no religion? Would something else tip him off?
Something strong as thinking he would go straight to hell?

Then i wrote under, in same comment:
"But then again. You got those who murder people, go to jail and find god and might live a peacefull life until they get back out on the streets to see how the world actually works."


You also said: You make all those long ass replies and try to make religion look bad and now you're calling me a crybaby?
Long ass replies? I got no long ass replies in this topic yet but my first one where i told a story. I dont try to make religion look bad, it's not why i made the topic. If people want to believe its their choice. What i want to know, hence the reason i made the topic is [...]. That i wanted to discuss this exact sentence: Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe?. I had this debate with my gf 2 days before i made the topic, and then i had it with some friends the night before when we were out and drunk and just discussing this. So i made the thread instead to see what people around the world think. Because in my area it's pretty much onesided.

Oh and BTW HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE BIBLE??? Cause i have. And god is the biggest murder off all in there.
If you even try to come tell me something else then you can just travel on a 10 year vacation to bahamas and start reading the bible.
Cause you got no clue if not.

You also said that "Also superheroes haven't been talked about for thousands of years"
They haven't? Have you been to the cinema past 2 decades? Or dont you have cinema in estonia?  ::)
Havent you looked in the bookshelves off your libraries that i bet you have?
Thousands of years? Most absurd thing i have read today lmfao.

Greek gods, ancient mythology. Maybe. Superheroes. Nty.

And you also said "If this helps you to live your life better and make better choices then go ahead".
Are you now saying that something is the correct way to believe? Because if he make good choices as a christian.
He couldnt have med good choices as an atheist? Or budhist?. What you said in that sentence, is the real offending thing in here.
Because after what i have experienced. There is no blueprint on how to live life.

You might follow ISIS and believe in what they believe in. As long as they make "better choices" for themselves it's ok?
You're tripping. Tripping realllllllllllll bad.

Also i don't need to be told about European school systems. Thank you very much.
Scandinavian school system and european school system is not the same. Dont come here and tell me you know how my school system work unless you went through the grades.
You need to be told a lot off stuff, like get away from my topic until you learn to reflect comments. You are so obsessed with me and my comments in here that you are blindfolded
and can't see what i respond to. You went personal, not me.

^Now that is a long ass reply.
Lol, Might wanna take a break :D Btw avenus, No hard feelings aye? we can joke, have fun together.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on July 28, 2015, 08:29:32 pm
Nono ash there is no hard feelings. I just wanted to know why people believed in what they did.
And then debate it. We are all grown up in different communities. And environment and communities and friends and family have a big impact on how you are as a person.

If i met you irl ash i wouldnt even mention the fact you are religious.
I have friends that are muslims, budhists, christians and so on.
I am always up for a discussion but it never ends up being like im right fuck you jump off a cliff... :D
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on July 28, 2015, 08:38:50 pm
Nono ash there is no hard feelings. I just wanted to know why people believed in what they did.
And then debate it. We are all grown up in different communities. And environment and communities and friends and family have a big impact on how you are as a person.

If i met you irl ash i wouldnt even mention the fact you are religious.
I have friends that are muslims, budhists, christians and so on.
I am always up for a discussion but it never ends up being like im right fuck you jump off a cliff... :D
<33
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on July 28, 2015, 09:29:53 pm
My comment that religion isn't a bad thing is right in some cases, and also wrong in some cases. It affects different people in different ways.
*Cough* The Crusades *Cough*
Just one example of religion being a bad thing. Sometimes it can help people, and sometimes it makes people do terrible things.
But there are people, like Avenus said, that go to prison and come out as better people. In conclusion, religions help some people, and hurt others.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on August 02, 2015, 04:32:37 am
Nobody has ever killed in the name of atheism.

/kek
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on August 13, 2015, 08:14:55 am
Yes, I believe in Allah, Islam.
Nowadays Islam is been given a bad face by social media and America and co.
But Islam is the most peaceful and loving religion out there.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Sir Rambo on August 13, 2015, 12:45:06 pm
Yes, I believe in Allah, Islam.
Nowadays Islam is been given a bad face by social media and America and co.
But Islam is the most peaceful and loving religion out there.
my nigga ;)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on August 13, 2015, 01:38:54 pm
Yes, I believe in Allah, Islam.
Nowadays Islam is been given a bad face by social media and America and co.
But Islam is the most peaceful and loving religion out there.
Islam is a great religion. There's about 99% of good people who belive in Islam,  and then there's the 1% who are terrorists. For whatever reason,  here in America everyone overlooks the 99% and only see the 1%.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on August 13, 2015, 02:19:31 pm
Yes, I believe in Allah, Islam.
Nowadays Islam is been given a bad face by social media and America and co.
But Islam is the most peaceful and loving religion out there.
Islam is a great religion. There's about 99% of good people who belive in Islam,  and then there's the 1% who are terrorists. For whatever reason,  here in America everyone overlooks the 99% and only see the 1%.

It's the media brainwashing the stupid people, a.k.a. the majority.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on August 15, 2015, 05:14:54 am
Quote
"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Qur'an 2:191
"Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood." Qur'an 9:123
"When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them." Qur'an 9:5
"Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable." Qur'an 3:85
"The Jews and the Christians are perverts fight them."... Qur'an 9:30
"Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Qur'an 5:33
"Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water melt their skin and bellies." Qur'an 22:19
"The unbelievers are silly, urge the Muslims to fight them." Qur'an 8:65
"Muslims must not take the infidels as friends." Qur'an 3:28
"Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an." Qur'an 8:12
"Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels." Qur'an 8:60

Source: http://quran.com
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Theoneofall on August 15, 2015, 05:28:30 am
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that

Srry but you are 100% retarded and stupid. With out god you cant do shit!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Chazz on August 15, 2015, 06:09:26 am
Quote
"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Qur'an 2:191
"Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood." Qur'an 9:123
"When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them." Qur'an 9:5
"Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable." Qur'an 3:85
"The Jews and the Christians are perverts fight them."... Qur'an 9:30
"Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Qur'an 5:33
"Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water melt their skin and bellies." Qur'an 22:19
"The unbelievers are silly, urge the Muslims to fight them." Qur'an 8:65
"Muslims must not take the infidels as friends." Qur'an 3:28
"Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an." Qur'an 8:12
"Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels." Qur'an 8:60

Source: http://quran.com

Lets look at History instead.
Occupation of Mecca, 629 CE: Upon victory, Muhammad emphasized on refraining from fighting instead of slaughtering the entire population of the Idol worshippers who occupied Mecca at the time.

Now at your selections from the Quraan:
>"kill the unbelievers"
Idol worshippers are nonbelievers, yet they were not killed when found
>"make war with infidels"
Did happen, but as a result of failed diplomatic attempts.
>"kill infidels where you catch them"
Idol worshippers not killed

etc
From what I learned, all Muslims take Muhammad as the ideal figure to try strive to be like. If Muhammad didn't do as the Quraan had 'decreed', and he is the representative of the Religion , either Muhammad was an infidel, or the selections are being taken out of context/are open to interpretation depending on the situations at hand.

Also
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If someone kills another person—unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth—it is as if he had murdered all mankind (Al-Ma'idah 5: 32)

The "unless" clause seems pretty justified to me. And when the religion condones senseless killing to such a degree, I fail to see how that religion, as you claim, advocates it.

inb4 50000 more quotes from the quraan saying it advocates murder when i just fucking said history's seen otherwise
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on August 15, 2015, 06:15:46 am
Islam doesn't say "kill the nonbelivers" ISIS created that. Islam, the one I believe in doesn't allow me to take someone's soul unless for self-defense. Even if there was no Islam, that's what I would believe in.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on August 15, 2015, 06:37:37 am
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on August 15, 2015, 06:56:53 am
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that

Srry but you are 100% retarded and stupid. With out god you cant do shit!
great argument my friend
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on August 15, 2015, 07:30:02 am
I don't believe in god nor any of the crap the bible says (the superficial stuff at least) but I'm still a christian. Mainly because I want to get married in church and stuff like that

Srry but you are 100% retarded and stupid. With out god you cant do shit!

Rofl. 5/5 argumentation my friend.

I've lived a great life so far being an atheist. However, it sounds like you haven't.

Anyway, let's try to upkeep the friendly atmosphere on this thread. There hasn't been too much shitposting so far, which I find surprising in a thread like this.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ekke on August 15, 2015, 01:45:32 pm
Islam doesn't say "kill the nonbelivers" ISIS created that. Islam, the one I believe in doesn't allow me to take someone's soul unless for self-defense. Even if there was no Islam, that's what I would believe in.
Qu'ran has violent statements in it and is supposed to be a muslim's guideline?
How come you believe in "Islam" that doesn't support violence?
Do you believe in other kind of "Islam"?
I haven't studied anything about religions so could you lighten me a bit?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Chazz on August 15, 2015, 01:58:38 pm
Islam doesn't say "kill the nonbelivers" ISIS created that. Islam, the one I believe in doesn't allow me to take someone's soul unless for self-defense. Even if there was no Islam, that's what I would believe in.
Qu'ran has violent statements in it and is supposed to be a muslim's guideline?
How come you believe in "Islam" that doesn't support violence?
Do you believe in other kind of "Islam"?
I haven't studied anything about religions so could you lighten me a bit?
https://emps-world.net/forum/index.php?topic=11946.msg96784#msg96784 ayy read lmao
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ekke on August 15, 2015, 02:00:10 pm
Islam doesn't say "kill the nonbelivers" ISIS created that. Islam, the one I believe in doesn't allow me to take someone's soul unless for self-defense. Even if there was no Islam, that's what I would believe in.
Qu'ran has violent statements in it and is supposed to be a muslim's guideline?
How come you believe in "Islam" that doesn't support violence?
Do you believe in other kind of "Islam"?
I haven't studied anything about religions so could you lighten me a bit?
https://emps-world.net/forum/index.php?topic=11946.msg96784#msg96784 ayy read lmao
Things that didn't happen is a bit different from "doesn't allow".
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Freestuffyay on August 15, 2015, 03:12:28 pm
TL;DR of this topic

Religion equals war
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on August 15, 2015, 03:17:27 pm
TL;DR of this topic

Religion equals war

I'd rather say extremists = war. Doesn't need to be religion.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on August 15, 2015, 06:32:27 pm
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on August 15, 2015, 06:51:30 pm
Most.of.the.religious.people.havent.read.the.bible.or.koran.or.whatever.that.is.anyways.
wouldnt.translate.that.into.much.of.anything.tbh
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on August 15, 2015, 08:22:38 pm
Most.of.the.religious.people.havent.read.the.bible.or.koran.or.whatever.that.is.anyways.
wouldnt.translate.that.into.much.of.anything.tbh
Every religious person that went to school did read either of Qur'an or Bible.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on August 15, 2015, 10:28:04 pm
Most.of.the.religious.people.havent.read.the.bible.or.koran.or.whatever.that.is.anyways.
wouldnt.translate.that.into.much.of.anything.tbh
Every religious person that went to school did read either of Qur'an or Bible.
nope,simply.nope
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on August 15, 2015, 11:40:59 pm
Most.of.the.religious.people.havent.read.the.bible.or.koran.or.whatever.that.is.anyways.
wouldnt.translate.that.into.much.of.anything.tbh
Every religious person that went to school did read either of Qur'an or Bible.

In Norway, they call themself christians, but most off them have no clue what the bible says.
That is a fact, they know about god and famous stories with moses and such, but nothing else.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Noname18 on August 16, 2015, 12:41:44 am
First of all I'm posting this from a different account because I don't want anyone [Irl friends mostly] know how I really am.
so I was born and raised as a Christian going to church every Sunday,praying etc.
last 2-3 years I read hundreds of debates about Religion on Facebook Twitter Reddit etc which made me think a lot about my religion and do research my self  which made me and convinced me to stop believing in my religion.
you could say I'm now agnostic not following my religion anymore and NO I don't want to follow any other religion as well.

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on August 17, 2015, 04:38:45 am
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
You can type the chapters into Google for yourself, they will show what I have posted. Why would I need to read the Qu'ran when I am not a Muslim, nor do I want to be one or a member of any other relgion.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on August 21, 2015, 01:10:28 pm
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
You can type the chapters into Google for yourself, they will show what I have posted. Why would I need to read the Qu'ran when I am not a Muslim, nor do I want to be one or a member of any other relgion.
You are stating fake shit about what you are saying stands in the Quran.. Dont say stuff where you know nothing about.
If the Islam would encourage people to murder others..
Theres about 1.7 billion muslims right now. You would have all been dead right now.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on August 21, 2015, 02:16:54 pm
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
You can type the chapters into Google for yourself, they will show what I have posted. Why would I need to read the Qu'ran when I am not a Muslim, nor do I want to be one or a member of any other relgion.
You are stating fake shit about what you are saying stands in the Quran.. Dont say stuff where you know nothing about.
If the Islam would encourage people to murder others..
Theres about 1.7 billion muslims right now. You would have all been dead right now.

(http://orig11.deviantart.net/345b/f/2013/164/d/a/facedesk_by_tinity123-d68y8e6.png)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on August 21, 2015, 03:41:42 pm
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
You can type the chapters into Google for yourself, they will show what I have posted. Why would I need to read the Qu'ran when I am not a Muslim, nor do I want to be one or a member of any other relgion.
You are stating fake shit about what you are saying stands in the Quran.. Dont say stuff where you know nothing about.
If the Islam would encourage people to murder others..
Theres about 1.7 billion muslims right now. You would have all been dead right now.

The elementary school is that way ----->
Seriously, how uneducated can an individual go...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on August 21, 2015, 09:14:17 pm
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
You can type the chapters into Google for yourself, they will show what I have posted. Why would I need to read the Qu'ran when I am not a Muslim, nor do I want to be one or a member of any other relgion.
You are stating fake shit about what you are saying stands in the Quran.. Dont say stuff where you know nothing about.
If the Islam would encourage people to murder others..
Theres about 1.7 billion muslims right now. You would have all been dead right now.
Right now you are making showing them that we are bad.

Just let them say what they want anyways, It's kinda obvious alot of websites will show a bad picture of Islam and this is not new to us, It's been happening IRL for centuries..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on August 23, 2015, 01:24:26 am
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
You can type the chapters into Google for yourself, they will show what I have posted. Why would I need to read the Qu'ran when I am not a Muslim, nor do I want to be one or a member of any other relgion.
You are stating fake shit about what you are saying stands in the Quran.. Dont say stuff where you know nothing about.
If the Islam would encourage people to murder others..
Theres about 1.7 billion muslims right now. You would have all been dead right now.
Right now you are making showing them that we are bad.

Just let them say what they want anyways, It's kinda obvious alot of websites will show a bad picture of Islam and this is not new to us, It's been happening IRL for centuries..
Ik bro,
Just the fact they try to make it worse.. I cant take it. Thousands of innocent children and parents die daily to the zionists from Israel and still they are saying we are the ones hurting others.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on August 23, 2015, 09:49:28 am
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
You can type the chapters into Google for yourself, they will show what I have posted. Why would I need to read the Qu'ran when I am not a Muslim, nor do I want to be one or a member of any other relgion.

but Josh it's the last book in the best selling fantasy series "the desert trilogy", it's probably worth the read

on a srs note, one of the problems I have with religion is the fact that there's been so many of them over the years, more than 2000 years ago the greeks believed in the gods of Olympus and believed that Zeus was the true omnipotent god,hence him being the one in charge. (in the iliad Zeus decided to let the trojans win for a certain amount of time because Achilles was pissed off at Agamemnon, and the other gods dared not defy him). the Vikings believed Odin was the allfather, The Aztecs believed their king was the embodiment of their own god, the egyptians had a buttload of gods aswell. The point is:
why should I believe in Allah or God and not Zeus, Odin or Ra?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on August 23, 2015, 02:09:09 pm
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
You can type the chapters into Google for yourself, they will show what I have posted. Why would I need to read the Qu'ran when I am not a Muslim, nor do I want to be one or a member of any other relgion.

but Josh it's the last book in the best selling fantasy series "the desert trilogy", it's probably worth the read

on a srs note, one of the problems I have with religion is the fact that there's been so many of them over the years, more than 2000 years ago the greeks believed in the gods of Olympus and believed that Zeus was the true omnipotent god,hence him being the one in charge. (in the iliad Zeus decided to let the trojans win for a certain amount of time because Achilles was pissed off at Agamemnon, and the other gods dared not defy him). the Vikings believed Odin was the allfather, The Aztecs believed their king was the embodiment of their own god, the egyptians had a buttload of gods aswell. The point is:
why should I believe in Allah or God and not Zeus, Odin or Ra?

Väinämöinen is the one true god
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Slothknows on August 24, 2015, 01:06:50 pm
i want to state some facts here
1st:convincing atheist people of a god existence is like making a dog speak (no offense)
2nd:religions with more than 1 book and god are most likely to be wrong
3rd: believing in something you can only see is just a stupid statement[no offense again] for example  you do believe that u were born from your mom's (***), don't tell me that you checked internet etc, since you didn't even know that since you were a kid
4th:searching for info in the internet is just a waste of time since it doesn't provide as much information as the real thing

other than that sorry for bad grammar
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on August 24, 2015, 02:09:10 pm
i want to state some facts here
1st:convincing atheist people of a god existence is like making a dog speak (no offense)
2nd:religions with more than 1 book and god are most likely to be wrong
3rd: believing in something you can only see is just a stupid statement[no offense again] for example  you do believe that u were born from your mom's (***), don't tell me that you checked internet etc, since you didn't even know that since you were a kid
4th:searching for info in the internet is just a waste of time since it doesn't provide as much information as the real thing

other than that sorry for bad grammar

There is absolutely no proof of how many gods there are, if such things even exist. You are saying that religions with more than one book/god are ''wrong'', but yet you cannot provide us with any proof that your own religion is ''right''.

I don't have to believe that I came out to this world from my mom's vagina, I have gone to school and learned how human reproduction. Therefore I know for a fact I came into this world just like everyone else did. In fact, believing into something that exists is even bigger waste of time than believing in god. For example, I don't believe that I have a Fanta bottle on my table, I know for a fact that I have one (shitty example, I know). You believe into things that you think exist, but you cannot prove their existence.

Convincing an atheist person into believing that god exists is nearly impossible for the reason I already stated. You simply cannot proof one's existence.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on August 24, 2015, 02:26:30 pm
i want to state some facts here
1st:convincing atheist people of a god existence is like making a dog speak (no offense)
2nd:religions with more than 1 book and god are most likely to be wrong
3rd: believing in something you can only see is just a stupid statement[no offense again] for example  you do believe that u were born from your mom's (***), don't tell me that you checked internet etc, since you didn't even know that since you were a kid
4th:searching for info in the internet is just a waste of time since it doesn't provide as much information as the real thing

other than that sorry for bad grammar

1) this is a DEBATE board where we DEBATE topics, regardless whether or not we're convinced or not, when we leave this DEBATE in the end everyone has probably learned something knew from the DEBATE, we don't have to completely convince the other person of our believes, since y'know we're giving our opinions in this DEBATE and whatnot.

2)a) I hope you know the Bible itself has like 24 books in the old testament and idk how many in the new testament. (from Genesis and Exodus to Revelations)
b)I would like to kindly ask you to tell me why a religion with more than one god is most likely false, what is that belief based on?
3)It's not believing in something I only see, I don't see molecules in the air everyday, I can't see the Andromeda Galaxy, but I know they exist because they have been proven scientifically and are based on scientific research.
4)what is the "real thing"? also the internet can be reliable in certain cases, you just have to know where to look.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Slothknows on August 24, 2015, 11:21:05 pm
i want to state some facts here
1st:convincing atheist people of a god existence is like making a dog speak (no offense)
2nd:religions with more than 1 book and god are most likely to be wrong
3rd: believing in something you can only see is just a stupid statement[no offense again] for example  you do believe that u were born from your mom's (***), don't tell me that you checked internet etc, since you didn't even know that since you were a kid
4th:searching for info in the internet is just a waste of time since it doesn't provide as much information as the real thing

other than that sorry for bad grammar

1) this is a DEBATE board where we DEBATE topics, regardless whether or not we're convinced or not, when we leave this DEBATE in the end everyone has probably learned something knew from the DEBATE, we don't have to completely convince the other person of our believes, since y'know we're giving our opinions in this DEBATE and whatnot.

2)a) I hope you know the Bible itself has like 24 books in the old testament and idk how many in the new testament. (from Genesis and Exodus to Revelations)
b)I would like to kindly ask you to tell me why a religion with more than one god is most likely false, what is that belief based on?
3)It's not believing in something I only see, I don't see molecules in the air everyday, I can't see the Andromeda Galaxy, but I know they exist because they have been proven scientifically and are based on scientific research.
4)what is the "real thing"? also the internet can be reliable in certain cases, you just have to know where to look.
1) i said i want to state some facts i didn't say to stop trying to convincing'em
2-a) yes i know that much so Christianity is most likely to be wrong
b) ah then seriously humans  shouldn't really be compared to a god as 1 god is more than enough  to create a sky that has no pillars to hold it from falling like for example if you get a god for everything in this world then humans are gods, isn't that what you are saying,like workers have their own jobs so stating that more than one god is as much as saying there are gods for everything have their jobs on nature which is wrong since us mere humans know nothing about what would happen if there was to be more than 1 god
3) well then since you were a kid im sure you knew that you were born from your mom you didn't really overlook scientific research or something
4)well the real thing is the religion itself,(you never made a research on quran for example you never experienced  islam or did you?)
 

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on August 25, 2015, 12:16:20 am
i want to state some facts here
1st:convincing atheist people of a god existence is like making a dog speak (no offense)
2nd:religions with more than 1 book and god are most likely to be wrong
3rd: believing in something you can only see is just a stupid statement[no offense again] for example  you do believe that u were born from your mom's (***), don't tell me that you checked internet etc, since you didn't even know that since you were a kid
4th:searching for info in the internet is just a waste of time since it doesn't provide as much information as the real thing

other than that sorry for bad grammar

1) this is a DEBATE board where we DEBATE topics, regardless whether or not we're convinced or not, when we leave this DEBATE in the end everyone has probably learned something knew from the DEBATE, we don't have to completely convince the other person of our believes, since y'know we're giving our opinions in this DEBATE and whatnot.

2)a) I hope you know the Bible itself has like 24 books in the old testament and idk how many in the new testament. (from Genesis and Exodus to Revelations)
b)I would like to kindly ask you to tell me why a religion with more than one god is most likely false, what is that belief based on?
3)It's not believing in something I only see, I don't see molecules in the air everyday, I can't see the Andromeda Galaxy, but I know they exist because they have been proven scientifically and are based on scientific research.
4)what is the "real thing"? also the internet can be reliable in certain cases, you just have to know where to look.
1) i said i want to state some facts i didn't say to stop trying to convincing'em
2-a) yes i know that much so Christianity is most likely to be wrong
b) ah then seriously humans  shouldn't really be compared to a god as 1 god is more than enough  to create a sky that has no pillars to hold it from falling like for example if you get a god for everything in this world then humans are gods, isn't that what you are saying,like workers have their own jobs so stating that more than one god is as much as saying there are gods for everything have their jobs on nature which is wrong since us mere humans know nothing about what would happen if there was to be more than 1 god
3) well then since you were a kid im sure you knew that you were born from your mom you didn't really overlook scientific research or something
4)well the real thing is the religion itself,(you never made a research on quran for example you never experienced  islam or did you?)

humans are gods? mate i have to say, you have one big imagination...:L

However, inspeaking of convincing people to believe in god, As a muslim i know im not supposed to force ANYONE to believe in god and believe in the religion i'm in, The life is wide open to believe in or not, you can be atheist if thats WHAT YOU want, Plus our religion is wide welcomed for anyone to join. but considering to what i see among these wars n shit. problly wont happen within centuries..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on August 25, 2015, 01:56:14 am
i want to state some facts here
1st:convincing atheist people of a god existence is like making a dog speak (no offense)
2nd:religions with more than 1 book and god are most likely to be wrong
3rd: believing in something you can only see is just a stupid statement[no offense again] for example  you do believe that u were born from your mom's (***), don't tell me that you checked internet etc, since you didn't even know that since you were a kid
4th:searching for info in the internet is just a waste of time since it doesn't provide as much information as the real thing

other than that sorry for bad grammar
Brb.asking.my.mom
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on August 25, 2015, 03:33:31 pm
I am only posting what the Qur'an states...
Have you read it yourself?
No you have not.
Nowadays people do everything to give it a bad look.
Even making fake websites and pages.
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
You can type the chapters into Google for yourself, they will show what I have posted. Why would I need to read the Qu'ran when I am not a Muslim, nor do I want to be one or a member of any other relgion.

but Josh it's the last book in the best selling fantasy series "the desert trilogy", it's probably worth the read

on a srs note, one of the problems I have with religion is the fact that there's been so many of them over the years, more than 2000 years ago the greeks believed in the gods of Olympus and believed that Zeus was the true omnipotent god,hence him being the one in charge. (in the iliad Zeus decided to let the trojans win for a certain amount of time because Achilles was pissed off at Agamemnon, and the other gods dared not defy him). the Vikings believed Odin was the allfather, The Aztecs believed their king was the embodiment of their own god, the egyptians had a buttload of gods aswell. The point is:
why should I believe in Allah or God and not Zeus, Odin or Ra?

Most accurate shit i have ever read!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on August 25, 2015, 04:58:40 pm
Before saying fake shit lets state some facts:
Bin Laden never did 9 11, jet fuel cant melt steel beams.
America has done a ton of research to the Bermuda Triangle,  they know what it is. But they wont tell.. know why? Because they know 90% of the world will become muslim. Whats behind it is probably because there is the Jannat (heaven for muslims).
An Americans statewoman went to space, she looked at the world and saw 1 specific spot which really was lightening. Know what that was? Mekka. (Holy place of muslims)
In the Quran, there's been written about all the things and miracles to happen on the Earth. All the things, literally all the things, have been the truth. And they have happened.

Im thankful of the Almighty for making me a muslim. I could not have asked for any more.

If I havent convinced you yet, send me a PM. We'll talk.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on August 25, 2015, 05:08:10 pm
Before saying fake shit lets state some facts:
Bin Laden never did 9 11, jet fuel cant melt steel beams.
America has done a ton of research to the Bermuda Triangle,  they know what it is. But they wont tell.. know why? Because they know 90% of the world will become muslim. Whats behind it is probably because there is the Jannat (heaven for muslims).
An Americans statewoman went to space, she looked at the world and saw 1 specific spot which really was lightening. Know what that was? Mekka. (Holy place of muslims)
In the Quran, there's been written about all the things and miracles to happen on the Earth. All the things, literally all the things, have been the truth. And they have happened.

Im thankful of the Almighty for making me a muslim. I could not have asked for any more.

If I havent convinced you yet, send me a PM. We'll talk.

I am sorry buy this is so much bullshit in one place.
You cant even prove any off what you just said, not anything. With a valid source behind ofcourse.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on August 25, 2015, 05:39:52 pm
Before saying fake shit lets state some facts:
Bin Laden never did 9 11, jet fuel cant melt steel beams.
America has done a ton of research to the Bermuda Triangle,  they know what it is. But they wont tell.. know why? Because they know 90% of the world will become muslim. Whats behind it is probably because there is the Jannat (heaven for muslims).
An Americans statewoman went to space, she looked at the world and saw 1 specific spot which really was lightening. Know what that was? Mekka. (Holy place of muslims)
In the Quran, there's been written about all the things and miracles to happen on the Earth. All the things, literally all the things, have been the truth. And they have happened.

Im thankful of the Almighty for making me a muslim. I could not have asked for any more.

If I havent convinced you yet, send me a PM. We'll talk.

I am sorry buy this is so much bullshit in one place.
You cant even prove any off what you just said, not anything. With a valid source behind ofcourse.
So.. Bin Laden did do 9 11?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Slothknows on August 25, 2015, 05:59:56 pm
Before saying fake shit lets state some facts:
Bin Laden never did 9 11, jet fuel cant melt steel beams.
America has done a ton of research to the Bermuda Triangle,  they know what it is. But they wont tell.. know why? Because they know 90% of the world will become muslim. Whats behind it is probably because there is the Jannat (heaven for muslims).
An Americans statewoman went to space, she looked at the world and saw 1 specific spot which really was lightening. Know what that was? Mekka. (Holy place of muslims)
In the Quran, there's been written about all the things and miracles to happen on the Earth. All the things, literally all the things, have been the truth. And they have happened.

Im thankful of the Almighty for making me a muslim. I could not have asked for any more.

If I havent convinced you yet, send me a PM. We'll talk.
lets see there are some few good things you pointed there- first the fact about the triangle isn't 100% to be true but that america actually know the hidden truth about it and refuses to tell is 80% to be true
another thing you pointed that the woman who went to the space and saw makka is a  true story i heared it recently
it might not make sense from some people's point of view since they know nothing
i like how loyal you are to be honest, but saying things this way just wrong as it leads to a misunderstanding since the people you are speaking to refuse to even believe of the existence of the god
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on August 25, 2015, 08:20:40 pm
Some people shouldn't be debating at all lmao, no offense <3
D0nt, what does it matter who was the cause of 9/11?
Even if it wasn't Al Qaida, does that proof the existence of God?
The woman that saw that Mekka was enlighted in space, does that proof the existence of God? If yes explain me how.
Your argument about the Bermuda triangle is just a wild guess that it is the Jannat, there is no proof of it being the Jannat.
Also, can you please give more information about your last argument, can you give some examples of the miracles that have been written in the Quran that happened on Earth?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on August 25, 2015, 08:48:32 pm
Why are you guys disrespecting each other?

Ok so I'm a religious person, I believe in God and lets take Even or Rasmus for an example, they are athiests, but I wont disrepsect them or hate them for that, because they have their opinions and I respect their opinions, so everyone is saying you're an idiot,  delusional, they are the idiots, so they are saying shit about your religion? so, you chose your religion and they chose to be athiest, why should you care about what they say about your religion or why should you care about what they about an athiest.

Never let anyone even make you rethink about your choice, cuz that's your choice and it's your own life, so you decide what ever the fuck you want to do in your life.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fireblast12 on August 25, 2015, 08:56:33 pm
Why are you guys disrespecting each other?

Ok so I'm a religious persion, I believe in God and lets take Even or Rasmus for an example, they are athiest, but I wont disrepsect them for that or hate them, because they have their opinions and I respect their opinions, so everyone saying you're an idiot delusional are the idiots, so they are saying shit about your religion? so, you decided your religion and they decided to be athiest, why should you care what they say about their religion or why should you care about what they about an athiest.

Never let anyone even make you rethink about your choice, cuz that's your choice and it's your own life, so you decide what ever the fuck you want to do in your life.
The answer to that question is simple, everyone on the internet thinks that they are some geniusses.
Also they love to think that they are some special fluffy snowflakes and that everyone else is a stupid cow.
well anyway, I fully agree with you, people should be more tolerant and respectful towards each other.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on August 26, 2015, 03:21:25 am
Before saying fake shit lets state some facts:
America has done a ton of research to the Bermuda Triangle,  they know what it is. But they wont tell.. know why? Because they know 90% of the world will become muslim. Whats behind it is probably because there is the Jannat (heaven for muslims).
An Americans statewoman went to space, she looked at the world and saw 1 specific spot which really was lightening. Know what that was? Mekka. (Holy place of muslims)
Most accurate thing I have ever read.



Not.



Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Iownu5xbetr on August 26, 2015, 05:13:44 am
I believe religions were created to give some people a push in the right direction. For some,  believing in a higher power can help them to become better people. There is nothing wrong with religion,  each person can belive in whatever God/Object/Mythical Creature they choose,  and I have no problem with that if it helps them to grow as an individual.
I agree with Bubble on this one. I'm not saying two different religions haven't fought one another about it and got violent, but that is also a result of human nature when people tend to not agree with each other. I'm not really saying I believe in God 100% but i'm also not saying I don't believe in him 100% . But in a reference to God and in a sense being a spirit do you all agree in that? For example like Ghosts or Demonic Spirits?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on August 26, 2015, 01:06:43 pm
America has done a ton of research to the Bermuda Triangle,  they know what it is. But they wont tell

Why don't you go check out yourself and get your ass killed in that hellhole.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on August 26, 2015, 04:36:20 pm
Don't bring 9/11 into this... Seriously don't. It doesn't matter who did it,  everyone knows what happened. Those buildings were destroyed,  no matter who did it. All those people are still dead.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on August 31, 2015, 10:01:09 pm
Before saying fake shit lets state some facts:
Bin Laden never did 9 11, jet fuel cant melt steel beams.
America has done a ton of research to the Bermuda Triangle,  they know what it is. But they wont tell.. know why? Because they know 90% of the world will become muslim. Whats behind it is probably because there is the Jannat (heaven for muslims).
An Americans statewoman went to space, she looked at the world and saw 1 specific spot which really was lightening. Know what that was? Mekka. (Holy place of muslims)
In the Quran, there's been written about all the things and miracles to happen on the Earth. All the things, literally all the things, have been the truth. And they have happened.

Im thankful of the Almighty for making me a muslim. I could not have asked for any more.

If I havent convinced you yet, send me a PM. We'll talk.
I.knew.that.god.is.real.when.I.killed.you.in.wild.and.you.started.pming.me.in.a.language.not.known.to.any.man.on.earth.
And.now.the.same.miracle.happens.

This.is.all.I.need
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Icecloud on September 01, 2015, 01:08:57 am
This thread is hilarious. Seriously. Hats off to all the trolls. (I hope you're trolls)

But D0nt Rang it. You take the cake.

Before saying fake shit lets state some facts:
Bin Laden never did 9 11, jet fuel cant melt steel beams

I just want to highlight this part first. Please read this.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/

America has done a ton of research to the Bermuda Triangle,  they know what it is. But they wont tell.. know why? Because they know 90% of the world will become muslim. Whats behind it is probably because there is the Jannat (heaven for muslims).
An Americans statewoman went to space, she looked at the world and saw 1 specific spot which really was lightening. Know what that was? Mekka. (Holy place of muslims)
In the Quran, there's been written about all the things and miracles to happen on the Earth. All the things, literally all the things, have been the truth. And they have happened.

You don't state any facts. At all.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on September 02, 2015, 05:39:10 pm
How the f can you all be this hypnosed.. How comes all the passports of all people got burned but just the one of the muslim was not? How comes the building started collapsing even before the plane went in? So fucking dumb
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 02, 2015, 05:40:37 pm
How the f can you all be this hypnosed.. How comes all the passports of all people got burned but just the one of the muslim was not? How comes the building started collapsing even before the plane went in? So fucking dumb

Now you don't state facts, just some bullshit you have heard.
You have been deluded to believe in something so badly that you even believe in it yourself now.

We are not the hypnotised ones, you're :P
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Slothknows on September 02, 2015, 05:57:50 pm
i'll just say 2 things about 9/11
1st-binladen most likely the one responsible for this incident but doesn't mean that the US Government has nothing to do with it
2nd-bringing 9/11 out of the blue is  just dumb since it won't really convince anyone that god exists which is way off the topic

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 02, 2015, 06:14:43 pm
How the f can you all be this hypnosed.. How comes all the passports of all people got burned but just the one of the muslim was not? How comes the building started collapsing even before the plane went in? So fucking dumb
Just stop, you've embarrased yourself enough. Seriously
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on September 05, 2015, 10:47:18 pm
Look
Im not here to force you all into something... But I will tell you, once a non muslim becomes muslim, straight to heaven.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on September 05, 2015, 11:10:10 pm
Look
Im not here to force you all into something... But I will tell you, once a non muslim becomes muslim, straight to heaven.

Do you have actual, legitimate evidence to prove this?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on September 06, 2015, 07:07:24 am
Look
Im not here to force you all into something... But I will tell you, once a non muslim becomes muslim, straight to heaven.

Lol, it's like once a player becomes a wiki contributor, straight to the staff team
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 06, 2015, 08:55:41 am
Look
Im not here to force you all into something... But I will tell you, once a non muslim becomes muslim, straight to heaven.

Lol, it's like once a player becomes a wiki contributor, straight to the staff team

^That association is too close.

More like once a person lost his virginity, he is still a virgin.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on September 08, 2015, 05:01:40 am
Look
Im not here to force you all into something... But I will tell you, once a non muslim becomes muslim, straight to heaven.
What back-up evidence are you giving us other than your word to say that this place is real? As open-minded as I am, I do not believe that once someone becomes a Muslim, they will go to heaven.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 08, 2015, 05:59:43 am
Look
Im not here to force you all into something... But I will tell you, once a non muslim becomes muslim, straight to heaven.
I.dont.want.to.go.to.heaven



Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on September 08, 2015, 01:30:37 pm
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 08, 2015, 02:30:15 pm
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.

Last time somebody quoted the English tranbslated Quran here you told it was all fake. Try to make your goddamn mind.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 08, 2015, 02:40:33 pm
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.
I'm a duck. Read donald duck magazines if you need evidence
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on September 08, 2015, 02:58:23 pm
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.

No I mean other than a book, how can you prove that if someone becomes a muslim they go straight to heaven?

You expect me to believe this from some words written down in your religious book?

If I'm going to start believing fairy tales(like the one you're trying to spit out because of some words in a book), then I guess shrek and donkey really are best friends.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on September 08, 2015, 03:35:07 pm
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.
Quote
"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Qur'an 2:191
"Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood." Qur'an 9:123
"When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them." Qur'an 9:5
"Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable." Qur'an 3:85
"The Jews and the Christians are perverts fight them."... Qur'an 9:30
"Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Qur'an 5:33
"Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water melt their skin and bellies." Qur'an 22:19
"The unbelievers are silly, urge the Muslims to fight them." Qur'an 8:65
"Muslims must not take the infidels as friends." Qur'an 3:28
"Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an." Qur'an 8:12
"Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels." Qur'an 8:60

Source: http://quran.com
So, you are saying I should believe in such things to go to heaven? Hell is the place for me then...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 08, 2015, 03:38:19 pm
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.
Quote
"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Qur'an 2:191
"Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood." Qur'an 9:123
"When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them." Qur'an 9:5
"Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable." Qur'an 3:85
"The Jews and the Christians are perverts fight them."... Qur'an 9:30
"Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Qur'an 5:33
"Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water melt their skin and bellies." Qur'an 22:19
"The unbelievers are silly, urge the Muslims to fight them." Qur'an 8:65
"Muslims must not take the infidels as friends." Qur'an 3:28
"Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an." Qur'an 8:12
"Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels." Qur'an 8:60

Source: http://quran.com
So, you are saying I should believe in such things to go to heaven? Hell is the place for me then...

It's warmer in hell -> the real paradise :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 08, 2015, 03:42:25 pm
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.

No I mean other than a book, how can you prove that if someone becomes a muslim they go straight to heaven?

You expect me to believe this from some words written down in your religious book?

If I'm going to start believing fairy tales(like the one you're trying to spit out because of some words in a book), then I guess shrek and donkey really are best friends.
Does this mean harry potter is legitimate proof of the existence of magic? Because if that's so, i'm going to hogwarts.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on September 08, 2015, 07:53:28 pm
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.

No I mean other than a book, how can you prove that if someone becomes a muslim they go straight to heaven?

You expect me to believe this from some words written down in your religious book?

If I'm going to start believing fairy tales(like the one you're trying to spit out because of some words in a book), then I guess shrek and donkey really are best friends.
Does this mean harry potter is legitimate proof of the existence of magic? Because if that's so, i'm going to hogwarts.

Only an idiot would think hogwarts is fake. \:kappa:/
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on September 09, 2015, 12:50:52 pm
You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.
Quote
"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Qur'an 2:191
"Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood." Qur'an 9:123
"When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them." Qur'an 9:5
"Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable." Qur'an 3:85
"The Jews and the Christians are perverts fight them."... Qur'an 9:30
"Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Qur'an 5:33
"Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water melt their skin and bellies." Qur'an 22:19
"The unbelievers are silly, urge the Muslims to fight them." Qur'an 8:65
"Muslims must not take the infidels as friends." Qur'an 3:28
"Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an." Qur'an 8:12
"Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels." Qur'an 8:60

Source: http://quran.com
So, you are saying I should believe in such things to go to heaven? Hell is the place for me then...

another thing that is quite amusing is that, true the Quran does have there verses, but it also has verses contradicting the exact things you just quoted, sounds like God couldn't make up his mind back then
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Slothknows on September 10, 2015, 03:08:35 pm
ok guys..
rather than proving if god exists then try to prove that he doesn't exist
most replyes be like: death all around the world etc... but no
can you imagine yourself in grave like whats happening there whats happeing to you, ofc you cant find a correct answer
since its beyond our imagination, us humans are so limited with thinking
thats what i have to say for now
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 11, 2015, 08:36:18 pm
Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

I'm pretty sure you do believe that temperature is real?
Even though you can't see it but you still believe there's temperature
You do believe that coldness is real? and you still can't see it but it's real

It's the same thing about god, If you're closer to him you will feel that he's real but if you far away from him you won't feel anything, same as temperature and coldness.


You want to see evidence? Read the Quran. If you cant speak Arabic or read.. You can always get a translated version of it in English.

No I mean other than a book, how can you prove that if someone becomes a muslim they go straight to heaven?

You expect me to believe this from some words written down in your religious book?

If I'm going to start believing fairy tales(like the one you're trying to spit out because of some words in a book), then I guess shrek and donkey really are best friends.

There's no more legitimate evidence more then a bible (the Quran).
Start reading.

Moreover it's not a fairy tales, Over billion people in this world believe in the quran for a reason so i'm pretty sure there's something you still don't know about it until you figure it out about this bible so don't hesitate just read it as another book, Trust me it won't hurt you.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 11, 2015, 08:47:47 pm
proving god is real isn't a problem

Then fucking ''prove'' it. You're just another delusional fool
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 11, 2015, 09:04:25 pm
proving god is real isn't a problem

Then fucking ''prove'' it. You're just another delusional fool

Ok, be respectful first, it's not a fight topic as you think, and as i said it will take long to do that and as i said i won't do that, please read the fully post next time, Mr.spammer.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 11, 2015, 10:37:11 pm
proving god is real isn't a problem

Then fucking ''prove'' it. You're just another delusional fool

Ok, be respectful first, it's not a fight topic as you think, and as i said it will take long to do that and as i said i won't do that, please read the fully post next time, Mr.spammer.

''Mr. Spammer''

> posts into a debate topic unwilling to debate
> calls others spammers
> mfw

It's the same thing about god, If you're closer to him you will feel that he's real but if you far away from him you won't feel anything, same as temperature and coldness.

How does one 'feel' god? Temperature can also be measured, and it affects how physical substance behaves (water starts boiling in high temperature, for example). How do you measure god?

There's no more legitimate evidence more then a bible (the Quran).
Start reading.

The same exact argument of yours would prove cartoon characters to be real as well. That makes no sense, and it has been mentioned at least dozen times on this thread already. Can you please come up with something ORIGINAL next time?

What's the difference between Barney, the drunk fat dude in Simpsons, and your precious god?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 11, 2015, 10:58:14 pm
What's the difference between Barney, the drunk fat dude in Simpsons, and your precious god?
non of them are real :kappa:

reward plz
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 12, 2015, 10:03:44 am
proving god is real isn't a problem

Then fucking ''prove'' it. You're just another delusional fool

Ok, be respectful first, it's not a fight topic as you think, and as i said it will take long to do that and as i said i won't do that, please read the fully post next time, Mr.spammer.

''Mr. Spammer''

> posts into a debate topic unwilling to debate
> calls others spammers
> mfw

It's the same thing about god, If you're closer to him you will feel that he's real but if you far away from him you won't feel anything, same as temperature and coldness.

How does one 'feel' god? Temperature can also be measured, and it affects how physical substance behaves (water starts boiling in high temperature, for example). How do you measure god?

There's no more legitimate evidence more then a bible (the Quran).
Start reading.

The same exact argument of yours would prove cartoon characters to be real as well. That makes no sense, and it has been mentioned at least dozen times on this thread already. Can you please come up with something ORIGINAL next time?

What's the difference between Barney, the drunk fat dude in Simpsons, and your precious god?


Before i start answering your questions, Lets keep it professional, respect me and i'll respect you, same thing goes if i believe in something at least respect me for what i believe and i'll respect you for what you believe too, I'll ask you nicely I do believe in god and i think it's something big in my opinion at least so do not compare a carton for a GOD.
I hope you understand me so we answer each other in a good way.

The answer for you questions:
1- How do you measure god?
You already know the answer that we can't measure god, If we could you wouldn't ask this question.
GOD is not something you can measure just imagine for a sec what i say is right, He created this universe, and he created us, So for a GOD who created us (without power) to measure him a powerful thing that created us? It's something impossible
I hope you understand what i said, It's like measure something that created you but you don't have the power to do that, So it's impossible for us to measure something who created us, Doesn't that make any sense to you, I'm saying that if you could imagine for just a sec that he created all this we living in




The same exact argument of yours would prove cartoon characters to be real as well. That makes no sense, and it has been mentioned at least dozen times on this thread already. Can you please come up with something ORIGINAL next time?

Well carton as you know writing by normal people and if you search for who created them, You will find his name,
The quran writing by God, not by peoples.
What can you call something that writing in it, what the future holds? Magic? we all knows that magic is unreal, The quran has proven a lot of things in this word and i can tell you what has been proven but i'm not going to give links i'll mention what the quran proven for this word what the future hold for us and you can just google it, I'll give you few examples:
1- Did you know that ants created from glasses and it contains 94% of there body? The quran proved that.
2- Did you know that The September 11 attacks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks) that happened in the US that before it happen it was mentioned in the quran " when it going to happen, which street, which date, Another thing that the quran proved

I can give you a lot of examples, That what came up to my mind now.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on September 12, 2015, 10:41:10 am
An atheist once asked a believer:

atheist: how will you feel if you die and find out that heaven is not real.
believer: not worse than your feeling when you die and find out that heaven is real.

/thread :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 12, 2015, 02:39:49 pm
Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

Ok so i find it quite funny you ask this question. Because it's like talking in metaphors that you can relate anything with.

As Nany previously said, religions have existed in various forms for many thousand years.
The ancient greek gods and so on. If you look at how religion(s) have curved past decades.
You will see more and more people that drops out off religion and don't believe in it.
I mean what the fuck do you think all the refugees from Syria think right now? You think God has a purpose with all this?
You think all the homeless people are gifted by god until they die all alone out there? Tell me all off this please, because i don't understand.
Where i live, i have noticed people stop saying god bless when you give them money. Same persons that used to say god bless years back.

You can't prove why God exist, but you can prove why the temprature is how it is.
and i think that ends for me for now.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 12, 2015, 08:57:01 pm
Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

Ok so i find it quite funny you ask this question. Because it's like talking in metaphors that you can relate anything with.

As Nany previously said, religions have existed in various forms for many thousand years.
The ancient greek gods and so on. If you look at how religion(s) have curved past decades.
You will see more and more people that drops out off religion and don't believe in it.
I mean what the fuck do you think all the refugees from Syria think right now? You think God has a purpose with all this?
You think all the homeless people are gifted by god until they die all alone out there? Tell me all off this please, because i don't understand.
Where i live, i have noticed people stop saying god bless when you give them money. Same persons that used to say god bless years back.

You can't prove why God exist, but you can prove why the temprature is how it is.
and i think that ends for me for now.

I can answer your first question by few words, Don't wait anything from God if you doesn't give him what he asked you to do, Like praying etc.
So the main point here is, So you living your life and waiting for something but you can't give something in return what i mean here, Don't wait until something bad happens for you and ask for God help start doing what he asked you to do, then when the bad things comes to you, so he will help you as you did what he wanted you to do, When shit happens to people they ask for God help, and after that they tell there selfs "He didn't help me" Ye he won't, Because you want him and his help when bad things happens only?
I can tell you that God helped me a lot when i needed him at least in my life, because i pray for him, and when i ask for help i find it. It's my personal experience and I'm not telling any fake stories here.

Your second question is the same as above, Start doing what he asked you to do, so when you need him he will help you, don't wait until bad things happens.

About hearing others says god bless, it doesn't explain that god doesn't exists.
I'd so that where you live people are faithless, And if you do something good it will benefit you not others.

You're the one who said " i don't believe in anything i can't see, You can't see the temperature so how do you believe it is real?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on September 12, 2015, 09:37:23 pm
2 things:
Knight well said, In shaa Allah we meet in heaven.
Second; theres about 1.3b muslims on the planet. If we were terrorists, you would have all been dead right now.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 12, 2015, 09:52:06 pm
you would have all been dead right now.

Not true at the slightest. Most Islam countries lack in actual military strength compared to USA, China and Russia for example.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on September 12, 2015, 10:34:34 pm
you would have all been dead right now.

Not true at the slightest. Most Islam countries lack in actual military strength compared to USA, China and Russia for example.
Uhm.. I dont know much about that. But I know that some countries such as Pakistan and Turkey have very strong militarys and nuclear bombs.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on September 13, 2015, 06:28:42 am
Dude don't even start the "We have big bombs"  Bullshit ... Every country has big bombs. If there was a Nuclear War it would most probably end the world. There's just too many alliances and explosives strewn throughout the world.

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 13, 2015, 09:32:52 am
Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

Ok so i find it quite funny you ask this question. Because it's like talking in metaphors that you can relate anything with.

As Nany previously said, religions have existed in various forms for many thousand years.
The ancient greek gods and so on. If you look at how religion(s) have curved past decades.
You will see more and more people that drops out off religion and don't believe in it.
I mean what the fuck do you think all the refugees from Syria think right now? You think God has a purpose with all this?
You think all the homeless people are gifted by god until they die all alone out there? Tell me all off this please, because i don't understand.
Where i live, i have noticed people stop saying god bless when you give them money. Same persons that used to say god bless years back.

You can't prove why God exist, but you can prove why the temprature is how it is.
and i think that ends for me for now.

I can answer your first question by few words, Don't wait anything from God if you doesn't give him what he asked you to do, Like praying etc.
So the main point here is, So you living your life and waiting for something but you can't give something in return what i mean here, Don't wait until something bad happens for you and ask for God help start doing what he asked you to do, then when the bad things comes to you, so he will help you as you did what he wanted you to do, When shit happens to people they ask for God help, and after that they tell there selfs "He didn't help me" Ye he won't, Because you want him and his help when bad things happens only?
I can tell you that God helped me a lot when i needed him at least in my life, because i pray for him, and when i ask for help i find it. It's my personal experience and I'm not telling any fake stories here.

Your second question is the same as above, Start doing what he asked you to do, so when you need him he will help you, don't wait until bad things happens.

About hearing others says god bless, it doesn't explain that god doesn't exists.
I'd so that where you live people are faithless, And if you do something good it will benefit you not others.

You're the one who said " i don't believe in anything i can't see, You can't see the temperature so how do you believe it is real?

Because temprature can be proved why it is how it is, i don't know what you dont understand.
But God can't be proven, at all. Science is the difference. You can't associate those two. Because if its proven i can believe in it.

Also, i am fortunate. I am richer than most people in this world, and guess what. Am i religious? No
Do i pray to god? No. Does my mom or dad pray to god? Do they believe in God? No, no they don't. How could they
build a fortune by not believing in God?

Well, here is the thing. You wont get shit that you dont work for in this life. You live to die, what you make is on you.
What you want to do with your life is on you. Your happiness is on YOU.

Previously i was talking about how unfortunate kids and families that pray gets nowhere in life.
Praying to god wont help when you got a gun to your head. No money and about to take the last overdoze off your life.
A prayer wont help when you got a rapist behind you about to fuck you up anal :S

It's all about being real. What you say God helped you with, is all mentally. If you believed in me, i could have done the exact same thing for you.


Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Queen Martin on September 13, 2015, 08:35:27 pm
If people feel like spending their time on religion... then let them lol. There's no point in fighting over it, if they are right they get all their heavenly privileges and we go to hell or whatever. Just mind your own business. You can't 'unbrainwash' people once they're brainwashed, that's the only thing that saddens me.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 13, 2015, 08:52:50 pm
Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

Ok so i find it quite funny you ask this question. Because it's like talking in metaphors that you can relate anything with.

As Nany previously said, religions have existed in various forms for many thousand years.
The ancient greek gods and so on. If you look at how religion(s) have curved past decades.
You will see more and more people that drops out off religion and don't believe in it.
I mean what the fuck do you think all the refugees from Syria think right now? You think God has a purpose with all this?
You think all the homeless people are gifted by god until they die all alone out there? Tell me all off this please, because i don't understand.
Where i live, i have noticed people stop saying god bless when you give them money. Same persons that used to say god bless years back.

You can't prove why God exist, but you can prove why the temprature is how it is.
and i think that ends for me for now.

I can answer your first question by few words, Don't wait anything from God if you doesn't give him what he asked you to do, Like praying etc.
So the main point here is, So you living your life and waiting for something but you can't give something in return what i mean here, Don't wait until something bad happens for you and ask for God help start doing what he asked you to do, then when the bad things comes to you, so he will help you as you did what he wanted you to do, When shit happens to people they ask for God help, and after that they tell there selfs "He didn't help me" Ye he won't, Because you want him and his help when bad things happens only?
I can tell you that God helped me a lot when i needed him at least in my life, because i pray for him, and when i ask for help i find it. It's my personal experience and I'm not telling any fake stories here.

Your second question is the same as above, Start doing what he asked you to do, so when you need him he will help you, don't wait until bad things happens.

About hearing others says god bless, it doesn't explain that god doesn't exists.
I'd so that where you live people are faithless, And if you do something good it will benefit you not others.

You're the one who said " i don't believe in anything i can't see, You can't see the temperature so how do you believe it is real?

Because temprature can be proved why it is how it is, i don't know what you dont understand.
But God can't be proven, at all. Science is the difference. You can't associate those two. Because if its proven i can believe in it.

Also, i am fortunate. I am richer than most people in this world, and guess what. Am i religious? No
Do i pray to god? No. Does my mom or dad pray to god? Do they believe in God? No, no they don't. How could they
build a fortune by not believing in God?

Well, here is the thing. You wont get shit that you dont work for in this life. You live to die, what you make is on you.
What you want to do with your life is on you. Your happiness is on YOU.

Previously i was talking about how unfortunate kids and families that pray gets nowhere in life.
Praying to god wont help when you got a gun to your head. No money and about to take the last overdoze off your life.
A prayer wont help when you got a rapist behind you about to fuck you up anal :S

It's all about being real. What you say God helped you with, is all mentally. If you believed in me, i could have done the exact same thing for you.

I just gave you a something you believing in without saying it, It was the main point.
So you might believe in other things if you doesn't see them, and was proven.
So believing in something doesn't have to be in front of you eyes to believe in it, That was my point.

Being rich, I'll tell you few words, i hope you will remember them.
The god gifted you by this money, trust me he did, and by saying " I don't need your help and I worked for this money" WILL MAKE YOU LOSE IT.
Anything comes in waste as "Poker" as you did, will go in waste.

Surely you won't get anything if you do not work, money won't come to you if you sit in couch each day, God tells us to go and work for living, it's the meaning of life

Do not convince yourself that who prays doesn't get nothing, and if he doesn't in this life, he will get more in the another life (in heaven)
You don't know everyone's story neither how he lives or what he got
Maybe you have some money in there, but you're not happy as you think, or maybe as others.

Yes he will help you to avoid this kind of people who tried to rape you or whatever bad things peoples hold for you, He could not put you in this situation at all.

Moreover what God helped me with there's no power in earth could do it, and i don't have to tell you what he gave me, Start praying for him and he will help you too.

You know something, How could you know a thing that you never tried before?
Lets say that your friend tells you swimming is amazing, and you never tried it before, So will you answer your friend, No it's not amazing at all,
The point is, Don't judge something you never tried before.
The same thing for praying to god, You never did it, You never had the feeling, So don't fucking tell me it's for nothing, You didn't fucking tried it before.


If people feel like spending their time on religion... then let them lol. There's no point in fighting over it, if they are right they get all their heavenly privileges and we go to hell or whatever. Just mind your own business. You can't 'unbrainwash' people once they're brainwashed, that's the only thing that saddens me.

I'd respect your opinion, but we didn't get brainwashed other then that, I'm free to tell others what i know, Maybe someone want to take this way.

You're right if what i say is right we go to heaven, But if it's not right as you assume, Trust me it's not a few words just to say that "I will go to hell"
Words can't describe what hell is.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fate on September 13, 2015, 08:58:39 pm
Let's lighten the mood :-*

(http://i.imgur.com/g83jkSa.png)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 13, 2015, 09:06:06 pm
Let's lighten the mood :-*

(http://i.imgur.com/g83jkSa.png)

Lol /thread
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 14, 2015, 11:49:40 am
Jesus.is.real
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 14, 2015, 03:49:09 pm
If people feel like spending their time on religion... then let them lol. There's no point in fighting over it, if they are right they get all their heavenly privileges and we go to hell or whatever. Just mind your own business. You can't 'unbrainwash' people once they're brainwashed, that's the only thing that saddens me.
Im sorry but WAIT WHAT?!@#$?
aren't you saying that people who believe in god are brainwashed and they "waste time" on it?
don't talk when you have 0 knowledge about something, if you think you know something tell me what you know so you can "unbrainwashme"

Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

Ok so i find it quite funny you ask this question. Because it's like talking in metaphors that you can relate anything with.

As Nany previously said, religions have existed in various forms for many thousand years.
The ancient greek gods and so on. If you look at how religion(s) have curved past decades.
You will see more and more people that drops out off religion and don't believe in it.
I mean what the fuck do you think all the refugees from Syria think right now? You think God has a purpose with all this?
You think all the homeless people are gifted by god until they die all alone out there? Tell me all off this please, because i don't understand.
Where i live, i have noticed people stop saying god bless when you give them money. Same persons that used to say god bless years back.

You can't prove why God exist, but you can prove why the temprature is how it is.
and i think that ends for me for now.

I can answer your first question by few words, Don't wait anything from God if you doesn't give him what he asked you to do, Like praying etc.
So the main point here is, So you living your life and waiting for something but you can't give something in return what i mean here, Don't wait until something bad happens for you and ask for God help start doing what he asked you to do, then when the bad things comes to you, so he will help you as you did what he wanted you to do, When shit happens to people they ask for God help, and after that they tell there selfs "He didn't help me" Ye he won't, Because you want him and his help when bad things happens only?
I can tell you that God helped me a lot when i needed him at least in my life, because i pray for him, and when i ask for help i find it. It's my personal experience and I'm not telling any fake stories here.

Your second question is the same as above, Start doing what he asked you to do, so when you need him he will help you, don't wait until bad things happens.

About hearing others says god bless, it doesn't explain that god doesn't exists.
I'd so that where you live people are faithless, And if you do something good it will benefit you not others.

You're the one who said " i don't believe in anything i can't see, You can't see the temperature so how do you believe it is real?

Because temprature can be proved why it is how it is, i don't know what you dont understand.
But God can't be proven, at all. Science is the difference. You can't associate those two. Because if its proven i can believe in it.

Also, i am fortunate. I am richer than most people in this world, and guess what. Am i religious? No
Do i pray to god? No. Does my mom or dad pray to god? Do they believe in God? No, no they don't. How could they
build a fortune by not believing in God?

Well, here is the thing. You wont get shit that you dont work for in this life. You live to die, what you make is on you.
What you want to do with your life is on you. Your happiness is on YOU.

Previously i was talking about how unfortunate kids and families that pray gets nowhere in life.
Praying to god wont help when you got a gun to your head. No money and about to take the last overdoze off your life.
A prayer wont help when you got a rapist behind you about to fuck you up anal :S

It's all about being real. What you say God helped you with, is all mentally. If you believed in me, i could have done the exact same thing for you.



wait wait wait..... when was  being rich  a measure for the existence of god, if so let me tell you then god does exist if you want to think this way
for example DUBAI, they are bunch of muslims/christians etc and they are hyper rich 

also yeah right temperature can be proved,but existence of god can't be proved?
hmmm assuming you are right that it can't be proved but the non-existence of god can't be proved either
right?
something got my attention btw
Slothknows said that imagining what it looks like in death is beyond our imagination
which is right,us humans have only our minds to use
so humans have nothing to use but their minds and look for clues etc.
 also keiskelar said it himself no need to repeat everything.


An atheist once asked a believer:

atheist: how will you feel if you die and find out that heaven is not real.
believer: not worse than your feeling when you die and find out that heaven is real.

/thread :kappa:



Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on September 14, 2015, 03:55:46 pm
Well i'll be honest with you, proving god is real isn't a problem and i can prove, but i'm not going to do that, Because it will take long time to explain things, and i'm pretty sure after writing a huge topic everyone will start quoting it by asking question and they will expect answers otherwise they will say: oh wait don't come up with things without proves, so as I searched for the "real answer" that i was expecting by wasting my time, You could do the same and by wasting some time you'll find the answer you are looking for about if god is real or not, Which you can find it in the internet if you search a little bit, anyway i do believe god is real and as i said i will not prove it if you going to ask why, i'll keep it simple as this


In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.

Well for you Mr avenus,
Here's something i would like you to answer if you want as you started this topic,

Ok so i find it quite funny you ask this question. Because it's like talking in metaphors that you can relate anything with.

As Nany previously said, religions have existed in various forms for many thousand years.
The ancient greek gods and so on. If you look at how religion(s) have curved past decades.
You will see more and more people that drops out off religion and don't believe in it.
I mean what the fuck do you think all the refugees from Syria think right now? You think God has a purpose with all this?
You think all the homeless people are gifted by god until they die all alone out there? Tell me all off this please, because i don't understand.
Where i live, i have noticed people stop saying god bless when you give them money. Same persons that used to say god bless years back.

You can't prove why God exist, but you can prove why the temprature is how it is.
and i think that ends for me for now.

I can answer your first question by few words, Don't wait anything from God if you doesn't give him what he asked you to do, Like praying etc.
So the main point here is, So you living your life and waiting for something but you can't give something in return what i mean here, Don't wait until something bad happens for you and ask for God help start doing what he asked you to do, then when the bad things comes to you, so he will help you as you did what he wanted you to do, When shit happens to people they ask for God help, and after that they tell there selfs "He didn't help me" Ye he won't, Because you want him and his help when bad things happens only?
I can tell you that God helped me a lot when i needed him at least in my life, because i pray for him, and when i ask for help i find it. It's my personal experience and I'm not telling any fake stories here.

Your second question is the same as above, Start doing what he asked you to do, so when you need him he will help you, don't wait until bad things happens.

About hearing others says god bless, it doesn't explain that god doesn't exists.
I'd so that where you live people are faithless, And if you do something good it will benefit you not others.

You're the one who said " i don't believe in anything i can't see, You can't see the temperature so how do you believe it is real?

Because temprature can be proved why it is how it is, i don't know what you dont understand.
But God can't be proven, at all. Science is the difference. You can't associate those two. Because if its proven i can believe in it.

Also, i am fortunate. I am richer than most people in this world, and guess what. Am i religious? No
Do i pray to god? No. Does my mom or dad pray to god? Do they believe in God? No, no they don't. How could they
build a fortune by not believing in God?

Well, here is the thing. You wont get shit that you dont work for in this life. You live to die, what you make is on you.
What you want to do with your life is on you. Your happiness is on YOU.

Previously i was talking about how unfortunate kids and families that pray gets nowhere in life.
Praying to god wont help when you got a gun to your head. No money and about to take the last overdoze off your life.
A prayer wont help when you got a rapist behind you about to fuck you up anal :S

It's all about being real. What you say God helped you with, is all mentally. If you believed in me, i could have done the exact same thing for you.

I just gave you a something you believing in without saying it, It was the main point.
So you might believe in other things if you doesn't see them, and was proven.
So believing in something doesn't have to be in front of you eyes to believe in it, That was my point.

Being rich, I'll tell you few words, i hope you will remember them.
The god gifted you by this money, trust me he did, and by saying " I don't need your help and I worked for this money" WILL MAKE YOU LOSE IT.
Anything comes in waste as "Poker" as you did, will go in waste.

Surely you won't get anything if you do not work, money won't come to you if you sit in couch each day, God tells us to go and work for living, it's the meaning of life

Do not convince yourself that who prays doesn't get nothing, and if he doesn't in this life, he will get more in the another life (in heaven)
You don't know everyone's story neither how he lives or what he got
Maybe you have some money in there, but you're not happy as you think, or maybe as others.

Yes he will help you to avoid this kind of people who tried to rape you or whatever bad things peoples hold for you, He could not put you in this situation at all.

Moreover what God helped me with there's no power in earth could do it, and i don't have to tell you what he gave me, Start praying for him and he will help you too.

You know something, How could you know a thing that you never tried before?
Lets say that your friend tells you swimming is amazing, and you never tried it before, So will you answer your friend, No it's not amazing at all,
The point is, Don't judge something you never tried before.
The same thing for praying to god, You never did it, You never had the feeling, So don't fucking tell me it's for nothing, You didn't fucking tried it before.


If people feel like spending their time on religion... then let them lol. There's no point in fighting over it, if they are right they get all their heavenly privileges and we go to hell or whatever. Just mind your own business. You can't 'unbrainwash' people once they're brainwashed, that's the only thing that saddens me.

I'd respect your opinion, but we didn't get brainwashed other then that, I'm free to tell others what i know, Maybe someone want to take this way.

You're right if what i say is right we go to heaven, But if it's not right as you assume, Trust me it's not a few words just to say that "I will go to hell"
Words can't describe what hell is.

if you think the meaning of life is just working then I feel sorry for you.

also, Avenus may not have, but I used to pray as a kid since I kind of grew up in a semi-christian household (half of the family prays to god, the other half makes fun of him :D)
and yep, still got me nothing. also please tell us how God helped you out, regardless if we believe you or not, just tell us, don't prove it, don't show pics, just... just tell us. you refusing to tell us is like me saying
"Oi guys I have this cool thing you ALL wanna see and you have to believe me that I have it, but of course I won't tell you what it is or show it to you", you're all just gonna make fun of me

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Queen Martin on September 14, 2015, 05:04:31 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 14, 2015, 05:07:18 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 14, 2015, 05:08:33 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

Go to an elementary school in any developed country and they'll tell you how.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 14, 2015, 05:28:02 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 14, 2015, 05:32:43 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 14, 2015, 05:49:24 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 14, 2015, 05:53:00 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on September 14, 2015, 06:36:59 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.
wait wait wait wait ok ok, so, so you're telling me, that like 1 single event, not complex organisms, not fucking cyborg robots, literally just 1 single event that created the universe is complete bullshit, however some big omnipotent omniscient omnipresent skydaddy can just poof into existence and everything is all fine and dandy? or wait wait sorry was he there in the first place anyways?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 14, 2015, 06:48:34 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 14, 2015, 07:01:46 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid
Something tells me you don't have snow where you live
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 14, 2015, 07:05:02 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid
Something tells me you don't have snow where you live
not a direct way of being racist huh?ok ok lets say we can actually do that but can you create humans fully functioned with gas no fking way unless you are a god
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 14, 2015, 07:09:28 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid
Something tells me you don't have snow where you live
not a direct way of being racist huh?ok ok lets say we can actually do that but can you create humans fully functioned with gas no fking way unless you are a god
not gas, carbon
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on September 14, 2015, 07:10:31 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P

1)Religion has just as many/more holes than the big bang theory,it's just that the big bang theory is somewhat more plausible for some
2)"there is no way we can turn gas into solid" is that comment even serious ??????????????????
m9 have you never been in a chemistry lab, get me some solid iodine and I'll turn that into gas and vice versa.
3)ok let me give you a quick physics lesson, it doesn't really prove the big bang but it may cure you of your scientific illiteracy. So basically, the explosions in the nuclear bombs are made by Nuclear fission, it's when you have elements that are heavier than iron (Uranium for example) split into two, hence the word "fission", (Uranium turning into krypton(no not supermans homeland) and barium). then a chain reaction happens causing it to go boom ( I don't wanna get into details I did this 2 years ago in school). However, what happens in stars is THE EXACT OPPOSITE,the process is called nuclear FUSION, where elements that are lighter than iron (hydrogen) turn into a heavier element (Hydrogen turns into helium), which is happening to our star right now, since it's small when the hydrogen runs out it's gonna slowly cool off into a white dwarf, however stars bigger than our sun make heavier elements, and then when they run out, it collapses into itself and a big gigantic BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM happens, (look up nova or supernova) which makes up more, heavier elements. so yeah, you can make stuff out of big booms ok?

the origin of life however has not been proven yet, I doubt we'll ever know the origin of life, but it's certainly not big old skydaddy
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 14, 2015, 07:11:49 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P
That's exactly my point lol. It doesn't create shit it destroys.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 14, 2015, 07:13:05 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P

1)Religion has just as many/more holes than the big bang theory,it's just that the big bang theory is somewhat more plausible for some
2)"there is no way we can turn gas into solid" is that comment even serious ??????????????????
m9 have you never been in a chemistry lab, get me some solid iodine and I'll turn that into gas and vice versa.
3)ok let me give you a quick physics lesson, it doesn't really prove the big bang but it may cure you of your scientific illiteracy. So basically, the explosions in the nuclear bombs are made by Nuclear fission, it's when you have elements that are heavier than iron (Uranium for example) split into two, hence the word "fission", (Uranium turning into krypton(no not supermans homeland) and barium). then a chain reaction happens causing it to go boom ( I don't wanna get into details I did this 2 years ago in school). However, what happens in stars is THE EXACT OPPOSITE,the process is called nuclear FUSION, where elements that are lighter than iron (hydrogen) turn into a heavier element (Hydrogen turns into helium), which is happening to our star right now, since it's small when the hydrogen runs out it's gonna slowly cool off into a white dwarf, however stars bigger than our sun make heavier elements, and then when they run out, it collapses into itself and a big gigantic BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM happens, (look up nova or supernova) which makes up more, heavier elements. so yeah, you can make stuff out of big booms ok?

the origin of life however has not been proven yet, I doubt we'll ever know the origin of life, but it's certainly not big old skydaddy

but my magical book says otherwise
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on September 14, 2015, 07:14:35 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P

1)Religion has just as many/more holes than the big bang theory,it's just that the big bang theory is somewhat more plausible for some
2)"there is no way we can turn gas into solid" is that comment even serious ??????????????????
m9 have you never been in a chemistry lab, get me some solid iodine and I'll turn that into gas and vice versa.
3)ok let me give you a quick physics lesson, it doesn't really prove the big bang but it may cure you of your scientific illiteracy. So basically, the explosions in the nuclear bombs are made by Nuclear fission, it's when you have elements that are heavier than iron (Uranium for example) split into two, hence the word "fission", (Uranium turning into krypton(no not supermans homeland) and barium). then a chain reaction happens causing it to go boom ( I don't wanna get into details I did this 2 years ago in school). However, what happens in stars is THE EXACT OPPOSITE,the process is called nuclear FUSION, where elements that are lighter than iron (hydrogen) turn into a heavier element (Hydrogen turns into helium), which is happening to our star right now, since it's small when the hydrogen runs out it's gonna slowly cool off into a white dwarf, however stars bigger than our sun make heavier elements, and then when they run out, it collapses into itself and a big gigantic BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM happens, (look up nova or supernova) which makes up more, heavier elements. so yeah, you can make stuff out of big booms ok?

the origin of life however has not been proven yet, I doubt we'll ever know the origin of life, but it's certainly not big old skydaddy

also please look up "Supernova nucleosynthesis", sorry I forgot to add that in my original comment
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 14, 2015, 07:15:11 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P

1)Religion has just as many/more holes than the big bang theory,it's just that the big bang theory is somewhat more plausible for some
2)"there is no way we can turn gas into solid" is that comment even serious ??????????????????
m9 have you never been in a chemistry lab, get me some solid iodine and I'll turn that into gas and vice versa.
3)ok let me give you a quick physics lesson, it doesn't really prove the big bang but it may cure you of your scientific illiteracy. So basically, the explosions in the nuclear bombs are made by Nuclear fission, it's when you have elements that are heavier than iron (Uranium for example) split into two, hence the word "fission", (Uranium turning into krypton(no not supermans homeland) and barium). then a chain reaction happens causing it to go boom ( I don't wanna get into details I did this 2 years ago in school). However, what happens in stars is THE EXACT OPPOSITE,the process is called nuclear FUSION, where elements that are lighter than iron (hydrogen) turn into a heavier element (Hydrogen turns into helium), which is happening to our star right now, since it's small when the hydrogen runs out it's gonna slowly cool off into a white dwarf, however stars bigger than our sun make heavier elements, and then when they run out, it collapses into itself and a big gigantic BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM happens, (look up nova or supernova) which makes up more, heavier elements. so yeah, you can make stuff out of big booms ok?

the origin of life however has not been proven yet, I doubt we'll ever know the origin of life, but it's certainly not big old skydaddy

but my magical book says otherwise
So atheism has different ways to expalin life's origin; therefore Humanity's existence? :kappa:

I'm confused now.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 14, 2015, 07:16:29 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P

1)Religion has just as many/more holes than the big bang theory,it's just that the big bang theory is somewhat more plausible for some
2)"there is no way we can turn gas into solid" is that comment even serious ??????????????????
m9 have you never been in a chemistry lab, get me some solid iodine and I'll turn that into gas and vice versa.
3)ok let me give you a quick physics lesson, it doesn't really prove the big bang but it may cure you of your scientific illiteracy. So basically, the explosions in the nuclear bombs are made by Nuclear fission, it's when you have elements that are heavier than iron (Uranium for example) split into two, hence the word "fission", (Uranium turning into krypton(no not supermans homeland) and barium). then a chain reaction happens causing it to go boom ( I don't wanna get into details I did this 2 years ago in school). However, what happens in stars is THE EXACT OPPOSITE,the process is called nuclear FUSION, where elements that are lighter than iron (hydrogen) turn into a heavier element (Hydrogen turns into helium), which is happening to our star right now, since it's small when the hydrogen runs out it's gonna slowly cool off into a white dwarf, however stars bigger than our sun make heavier elements, and then when they run out, it collapses into itself and a big gigantic BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM happens, (look up nova or supernova) which makes up more, heavier elements. so yeah, you can make stuff out of big booms ok?

the origin of life however has not been proven yet, I doubt we'll ever know the origin of life, but it's certainly not big old skydaddy

but my magical book says otherwise
So atheism has different ways to expalin life's origin; therefore Humanity's existence? :kappa:

I'm confused now.
It's called science, not atheism
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 14, 2015, 07:17:24 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P

1)Religion has just as many/more holes than the big bang theory,it's just that the big bang theory is somewhat more plausible for some
2)"there is no way we can turn gas into solid" is that comment even serious ??????????????????
m9 have you never been in a chemistry lab, get me some solid iodine and I'll turn that into gas and vice versa.
3)ok let me give you a quick physics lesson, it doesn't really prove the big bang but it may cure you of your scientific illiteracy. So basically, the explosions in the nuclear bombs are made by Nuclear fission, it's when you have elements that are heavier than iron (Uranium for example) split into two, hence the word "fission", (Uranium turning into krypton(no not supermans homeland) and barium). then a chain reaction happens causing it to go boom ( I don't wanna get into details I did this 2 years ago in school). However, what happens in stars is THE EXACT OPPOSITE,the process is called nuclear FUSION, where elements that are lighter than iron (hydrogen) turn into a heavier element (Hydrogen turns into helium), which is happening to our star right now, since it's small when the hydrogen runs out it's gonna slowly cool off into a white dwarf, however stars bigger than our sun make heavier elements, and then when they run out, it collapses into itself and a big gigantic BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM happens, (look up nova or supernova) which makes up more, heavier elements. so yeah, you can make stuff out of big booms ok?

the origin of life however has not been proven yet, I doubt we'll ever know the origin of life, but it's certainly not big old skydaddy

but my magical book says otherwise
So atheism has different ways to expalin life's origin; therefore Humanity's existence? :kappa:

I'm confused now.
It's called science, not atheism
No but what you both share in common is Atheism, science is part of it
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on September 14, 2015, 07:18:56 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P

1)Religion has just as many/more holes than the big bang theory,it's just that the big bang theory is somewhat more plausible for some
2)"there is no way we can turn gas into solid" is that comment even serious ??????????????????
m9 have you never been in a chemistry lab, get me some solid iodine and I'll turn that into gas and vice versa.
3)ok let me give you a quick physics lesson, it doesn't really prove the big bang but it may cure you of your scientific illiteracy. So basically, the explosions in the nuclear bombs are made by Nuclear fission, it's when you have elements that are heavier than iron (Uranium for example) split into two, hence the word "fission", (Uranium turning into krypton(no not supermans homeland) and barium). then a chain reaction happens causing it to go boom ( I don't wanna get into details I did this 2 years ago in school). However, what happens in stars is THE EXACT OPPOSITE,the process is called nuclear FUSION, where elements that are lighter than iron (hydrogen) turn into a heavier element (Hydrogen turns into helium), which is happening to our star right now, since it's small when the hydrogen runs out it's gonna slowly cool off into a white dwarf, however stars bigger than our sun make heavier elements, and then when they run out, it collapses into itself and a big gigantic BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM happens, (look up nova or supernova) which makes up more, heavier elements. so yeah, you can make stuff out of big booms ok?

the origin of life however has not been proven yet, I doubt we'll ever know the origin of life, but it's certainly not big old skydaddy

but my magical book says otherwise
So atheism has different ways to expalin life's origin; therefore Humanity's existence? :kappa:

I'm confused now.
It's called science, not atheism

what Ras said, if you read what I typed carefully, you can see that I was explaining to you how you can make elements out of explosions that go BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM, as I stated in the end and will state again: (it's in bold this time friends)
the origin of life however has not been proven yet, I doubt we'll ever know the origin of life, but it's certainly not big old skydaddy
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 14, 2015, 07:20:19 pm
We are debating the existence of god, and you ask people to prove that he doesn't exist. How does this make sense?
Then prove how we exist in first place lol.

*Don't refer to the big bang thingy, it's total bullshit.

Please, explain, why is it bullshit? This is the debates section after all.

I thought you arabs liked big explosions and stuff.
There is no logical explanation of an explosion to be a cause of human existence, prove to me how is it possible since you came up with the idea in first place lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
You could still wiki the opposite of this and get the answer, hah ???

Brb making some explosions, hoping on getting some biological sons.
XD ikr
big bang theory has so many holes since putting a theory requires proofs for example:
 as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
assuming that you can create living beings with explosions then why didn't the nuclear bomb in Hirushima
or Nakasaki create humans or aliens for example :S?, wait now that i think of it, it even killed way so many people so explosions do the exact opposite of creating :P

1)Religion has just as many/more holes than the big bang theory,it's just that the big bang theory is somewhat more plausible for some
2)"there is no way we can turn gas into solid" is that comment even serious ??????????????????
m9 have you never been in a chemistry lab, get me some solid iodine and I'll turn that into gas and vice versa.
3)ok let me give you a quick physics lesson, it doesn't really prove the big bang but it may cure you of your scientific illiteracy. So basically, the explosions in the nuclear bombs are made by Nuclear fission, it's when you have elements that are heavier than iron (Uranium for example) split into two, hence the word "fission", (Uranium turning into krypton(no not supermans homeland) and barium). then a chain reaction happens causing it to go boom ( I don't wanna get into details I did this 2 years ago in school). However, what happens in stars is THE EXACT OPPOSITE,the process is called nuclear FUSION, where elements that are lighter than iron (hydrogen) turn into a heavier element (Hydrogen turns into helium), which is happening to our star right now, since it's small when the hydrogen runs out it's gonna slowly cool off into a white dwarf, however stars bigger than our sun make heavier elements, and then when they run out, it collapses into itself and a big gigantic BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM happens, (look up nova or supernova) which makes up more, heavier elements. so yeah, you can make stuff out of big booms ok?

the origin of life however has not been proven yet, I doubt we'll ever know the origin of life, but it's certainly not big old skydaddy

but my magical book says otherwise
So atheism has different ways to expalin life's origin; therefore Humanity's existence? :kappa:

I'm confused now.
It's called science, not atheism
No but what you both share in common is Atheism, science is part of it
Seems like you don't know just how much people in the world that are both religious and believe in science (poor wording but you get what I mean)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Charr on September 14, 2015, 07:34:31 pm
as far as i know in the current time there is no way we can turn gas into solid or  into living creatures, so saying that a gas explosion could create human beings is absolutely wrong.
There is, it happens to water vapor in winter quite a lot. Here's your wikipedia article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deposition_(phase_transition)
Honestly, the sheer lack of basic physics and chemistry knowledge is starting to dissapoint me.

As for the big bang, you do know the 'gas explosion' released a ton of atoms that started reacting to eachother, this happened over the course of millions upon millions of years. As for how life started, it had to do something with the creation of membranes, which formed the first cells. I can't really find any good links on this one, I'll leave that to someone else.

As for my own stance on religion, I might post something later. I'd have to explain the allegory of the cave, which would take quite a while. Just here to share some of my biology/physics/chemistry knowledge for now.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 14, 2015, 08:41:38 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 14, 2015, 08:48:25 pm
wait what you are saying religions has more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
>They'll just say ISIS :kappa:

Although ISIS are not an actualy Muslims, just some group of terrorists motherfuckers trying to doom in the name of Allah and Islam. But that's the only so-called hole which is not actually true.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 14, 2015, 08:51:44 pm
wait what you are saying religions has more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
>They'll just say ISIS :kappa:

Although ISIS are not an actualy Muslims, just some group of terrorists motherfuckers trying to doom in the name of Allah and Islam. But that's the only so-called hole which is not actually true.
ISIS kill muslims for no reason so that only is enough to prove that they aren't really Muslims
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 14, 2015, 08:52:26 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Charr on September 14, 2015, 08:53:06 pm
wait what you are saying religions has more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
So far I have said nothing about your religion and I don't plan to. I just attempted to educate you as to how physics work, and cover said 'holes' in the big bang theory. I will not talk about any religion in particular, nor will I judge you for beliving in it. I will post my own view on religion sometime later. Once again, I did not say anything about your religion and I do not mean to disprove or deface it in any way by explaining these things. I mean no harm.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 14, 2015, 08:58:33 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
You dumbo haven't read it even and yet you just judge it the way you want from your own delusional perspective.

READ IT THEN COME AND JUDGE ffs
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Charr on September 14, 2015, 09:10:56 pm
You dumbo haven't read it even and yet you just judge it the way you want from your own delusional perspective.

READ IT THEN COME AND JUDGE ffs
Would you be so kind as to provide us with an online readable version of it, so we don't end up googling a wrongfully translated one instead?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 14, 2015, 09:11:10 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
ho ho ho i was waiting for this to come
lets go for some facts about Quran
1-it's written in arabic so you saying shit about Quran when you can't even read it is just dumb sorry i don't mean any offense,if you say that you can read the translated version then no sorry  Arabic is just something else, you can't really translate Quran when you want to see how great it is, as reading Quran in translated language ruins the whole meaning of the words  which shows a great hole to other people who know nothing about Arabic
2-  that being said it still shows how great it is for more than 1000 years to the people who read it not just blindly follow it,also the fact that every one who can read arabic very well and understand it's meanings etc
WILL get into Islam
3- ever wondered why almost everyone who was muslim since he was kid never really changed his mind and started being atheist?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on September 14, 2015, 09:15:29 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
ho ho ho i was waiting for this to come
lets go for some facts about Quran
1-it's written in arabic so you saying shit about Quran when you can't even read it is just dumb sorry i don't mean any offense,if you say that you can read the translated version then no sorry  Arabic is just something else, you can't really translate Quran when you want to see how great it is, as reading Quran in translated language ruins the whole meaning of the words  which shows a great hole to other people who know nothing about Arabic
2-  that being said it still shows how great it is for more than 1000 years to the people who read it not just blindly follow it,also the fact that every one who can read arabic very well and understand it's meanings etc
WILL get into Islam

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Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 14, 2015, 09:17:31 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
3- ever wondered why almost everyone who was muslim since he was kid never really changed his mind and started being atheist?
because once you're brainwashed it's very hard to get unbrainwashed
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 14, 2015, 09:20:12 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
3- ever wondered why almost everyone who was muslim since he was kid never really changed his mind and started being atheist?
because once you're brainwashed it's very hard to get unbrainwashed
ignored everything and directly went on to make a joke hmm
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 14, 2015, 09:21:51 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
3- ever wondered why almost everyone who was muslim since he was kid never really changed his mind and started being atheist?
because once you're brainwashed it's very hard to get unbrainwashed
ignored everything and directly went on to make a joke hmm
I wasn't making a joke.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 14, 2015, 09:25:36 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
3- ever wondered why almost everyone who was muslim since he was kid never really changed his mind and started being atheist?
because once you're brainwashed it's very hard to get unbrainwashed
ignored everything and directly went on to make a joke hmm
Because they actually are brainwashed in case you don't know it. if a kid would choose by himself/herself, i bet most of them wouldn't believe any of that nonsense. the parents are the ones responsible of their religion.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 14, 2015, 09:30:31 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
3- ever wondered why almost everyone who was muslim since he was kid never really changed his mind and started being atheist?
because once you're brainwashed it's very hard to get unbrainwashed
ignored everything and directly went on to make a joke hmm
Because they actually are brainwashed in case you don't know it. if a kid would choose by himself/herself, i bet most of them wouldn't believe any of that nonsense. the parents are the ones responsible of their religion.
did you even reconsider anything else i wrote?? no you didn't ofc
a dumb answer as usual would be: because it's bullshit
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on September 14, 2015, 09:41:46 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
3- ever wondered why almost everyone who was muslim since he was kid never really changed his mind and started being atheist?
because once you're brainwashed it's very hard to get unbrainwashed
ignored everything and directly went on to make a joke hmm
Because they actually are brainwashed in case you don't know it. if a kid would choose by himself/herself, i bet most of them wouldn't believe any of that nonsense. the parents are the ones responsible of their religion.
did you even reconsider anything else i wrote?? no you didn't ofc
a dumb answer as usual would be: because it's bullshit

I find it thoroughly enjoying at how much of a hypocrite you're being. "Did you even read what I wrote blah blah blah".

You're not reading his replies either, lol.

I agree with Suryoyo, parents force children into religion. From a young age kids are fed horse shit regarding religion, my own personal view is, let your child grow up and choose to be religious or not. If I ask you one simple question, will you answer it honestly?

When you started going to church/mosque whatever, was it your choice, or did your parents take you while you were growing up? Making it become apart of your life, something you do to this day because it's how you've been raised.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 14, 2015, 10:27:29 pm
wait what you are saying religions have more holes than big bang theory, tell me 1 hole in islam and i will shut up , since you lack knowledge about islam you will use wiki or any other internet source
so yeah go on, ill fix every corrupt thought about islam
The quran itself is the hole. That damn book is more than a thousand year old and you expect us to believe in it? if people are this ignorant enough to believe in it, imagine how ignorant they were a thousand years ago when delusional people wrote it.
3- ever wondered why almost everyone who was muslim since he was kid never really changed his mind and started being atheist?
because once you're brainwashed it's very hard to get unbrainwashed
ignored everything and directly went on to make a joke hmm
Because they actually are brainwashed in case you don't know it. if a kid would choose by himself/herself, i bet most of them wouldn't believe any of that nonsense. the parents are the ones responsible of their religion.
did you even reconsider anything else i wrote?? no you didn't ofc
a dumb answer as usual would be: because it's bullshit

I find it thoroughly enjoying at how much of a hypocrite you're being. "Did you even read what I wrote blah blah blah".

You're not reading his replies either, lol.

I agree with Suryoyo, parents force children into religion. From a young age kids are fed horse shit regarding religion, my own personal view is, let your child grow up and choose to be religious or not. If I ask you one simple question, will you answer it honestly?

When you started going to church/mosque whatever, was it your choice, or did your parents take you while you were growing up? Making it become apart of your life, something you do to this day because it's how you've been raised.
I've been raised like this but I also had the choice to decide after all what I have been through regarding religion.

I'm totally convinced that I'm on the right path though. And oh, it was not my parents whom forced me, there is nothing like 'religious force' that's ISIS logic, that's why they kill. Parents only teach.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on September 15, 2015, 01:04:55 am
From what I have read, when Muslim children disobey their parents wishes they get physically disciplined. Even though the Quran may not promote abusive behaviour towards children, the culture as a whole is quite abusive when it comes to a child disobeying his/her parents.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 15, 2015, 01:07:48 am
From what I have read, when Muslim children disobey their parents wishes they get physically disciplined. Even though the Quran may not promote abusive behaviour towards children, the culture as a whole is quite abusive when it comes to a child disobeying his/her parents.
This is not about diobeying, it's about FORCE. Plus, we're not talking about a culture, Josh, a religion.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on September 15, 2015, 01:57:10 am
From what I have read, when Muslim children disobey their parents wishes they get physically disciplined. Even though the Quran may not promote abusive behaviour towards children, the culture as a whole is quite abusive when it comes to a child disobeying his/her parents.
This is not about diobeying, it's about FORCE. Plus, we're not talking about a culture, Josh, a religion.
Islam is a culture.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 15, 2015, 02:04:41 am
From what I have read, when Muslim children disobey their parents wishes they get physically disciplined. Even though the Quran may not promote abusive behaviour towards children, the culture as a whole is quite abusive when it comes to a child disobeying his/her parents.
This is not about diobeying, it's about FORCE. Plus, we're not talking about a culture, Josh, a religion.
Islam is a culture.
What the f did I just read??? Islam is a religon dude. There are Chinese Muslims and Arabic Muslims (For example) ARE THEIR TRADITIONS THE SAME? FUCK NO. Islam is a religion. Unless you don't know culture 'means' in particular lol.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Queen Martin on September 15, 2015, 05:16:52 am
You wouldn't even know the quran existed if it wasn't for your parents. You are never going to convince any of us into believing your beliefs, we are by far too developed to be brainwashed at this state. Also you never had much of a choice since the environment around you is all religious, you would probably be condemned by people around you so i fear being religious is actually essential for surviving there.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 15, 2015, 10:41:31 am
You wouldn't even know the quran existed if it wasn't for your parents. You are never going to convince any of us into believing your beliefs, we are by far too developed to be brainwashed at this state. Also you never had much of a choice since the environment around you is all religious, you would probably be condemned by people around you so i fear being religious is actually essential for surviving there.
for the 10000th time it's not called brainwashed i rather was sucked into this and completely convinced how
perfect Islam can be, so many situations happened, like just so many i can't really remember everything,
i live Islam in my country or rather in my village everyone is so close and bonded there, we aren't bunch of farmers who believe in something and blindly follow it we made researches alot of other things that is just enough to make us believe Islam
and probably we aren't some smart asses think that we are geniuses and everyone else is stupid and "brainwashed" 
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 15, 2015, 11:07:52 am
You wouldn't even know the quran existed if it wasn't for your parents. You are never going to convince any of us into believing your beliefs, we are by far too developed to be brainwashed at this state. Also you never had much of a choice since the environment around you is all religious, you would probably be condemned by people around you so i fear being religious is actually essential for surviving there.
for the 10000th time it's not called brainwashed i rather was sucked into this and completely convinced how
perfect Islam can be, so many situations happened, like just so many i can't really remember everything,
i live Islam in my country or rather in my village everyone is so close and bonded there, we aren't bunch of farmers who believe in something and blindly follow it we made researches alot of other things that is just enough to make us believe Islam
and probably we aren't some smart asses think that we are geniuses and everyone else is stupid and "brainwashed"
Go.research.a.dictionary
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 15, 2015, 11:20:49 am
You wouldn't even know the quran existed if it wasn't for your parents. You are never going to convince any of us into believing your beliefs, we are by far too developed to be brainwashed at this state. Also you never had much of a choice since the environment around you is all religious, you would probably be condemned by people around you so i fear being religious is actually essential for surviving there.
Assuming you don't believe in the after life as well right? What if it really existed, you don't want to live once again? If there was heaven you would not be a part of it? I have no idea why so much negativity although the ideas are really optimistic and positive.

If you're gonna tell me you don't wish to live once again, go ahead and fuck you then, lol.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 15, 2015, 11:38:19 am
You wouldn't even know the quran existed if it wasn't for your parents. You are never going to convince any of us into believing your beliefs, we are by far too developed to be brainwashed at this state. Also you never had much of a choice since the environment around you is all religious, you would probably be condemned by people around you so i fear being religious is actually essential for surviving there.
Assuming you don't believe in the after life as well right? What if it really existed, you don't want to live once again? If there was heaven you would not be a part of it? I have no idea why so much negativity although the ideas are really optimistic and positive.

If you're gonna tell me you don't wish to live once again, go ahead and fuck you then, lol.
If.god.exists.id.want.to.punch.the.fucker.in.the.face.not.go.live.with.him.and.9.billion.arabs.
Sorry.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 15, 2015, 11:40:12 am
You wouldn't even know the quran existed if it wasn't for your parents. You are never going to convince any of us into believing your beliefs, we are by far too developed to be brainwashed at this state. Also you never had much of a choice since the environment around you is all religious, you would probably be condemned by people around you so i fear being religious is actually essential for surviving there.
Assuming you don't believe in the after life as well right? What if it really existed, you don't want to live once again? If there was heaven you would not be a part of it? I have no idea why so much negativity although the ideas are really optimistic and positive.

If you're gonna tell me you don't wish to live once again, go ahead and fuck you then, lol.
If.god.exists.id.want.to.punch.the.fucker.in.the.face.not.go.live.with.him.and.9.billion.arabs.
Sorry.
Who are you referring to? "fucker"
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 15, 2015, 11:42:17 am
You wouldn't even know the quran existed if it wasn't for your parents. You are never going to convince any of us into believing your beliefs, we are by far too developed to be brainwashed at this state. Also you never had much of a choice since the environment around you is all religious, you would probably be condemned by people around you so i fear being religious is actually essential for surviving there.
Assuming you don't believe in the after life as well right? What if it really existed, you don't want to live once again? If there was heaven you would not be a part of it? I have no idea why so much negativity although the ideas are really optimistic and positive.

If you're gonna tell me you don't wish to live once again, go ahead and fuck you then, lol.
If.god.exists.id.want.to.punch.the.fucker.in.the.face.not.go.live.with.him.and.9.billion.arabs.
Sorry.
Who are you referring to? "fucker"
God

turns.out.god.created.life...
god.created.me...

why.would.I.care.I.didnt.ask.for.it.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 15, 2015, 11:44:31 am
lol drugs i would like to see you punch someone who can make a universe :P
us humans can die so easily
if a flee gets in your ear you are done for, so if a flee can kill you that easily, then what a god can do XD?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 15, 2015, 11:45:25 am
lol drugs i would like to see you punch someone who can make a universe
well.I.wouldnt.fucking.praise.him.either.

I.dont.pray.to.atoms.every.day.for.creating.me.or.whatever.

point.being.if.I.dont.want.to.go.live.with.muslims.and.get.into.that.religion.while.I.live.Why.would.I.suddenly.want.after.I.die(heaven.exists)
I.wouldnt.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 15, 2015, 11:48:35 am
lol drugs i would like to see you punch someone who can make a universe
well.I.wouldnt.fucking.praise.him.either.

I.dont.pray.to.atoms.every.day.for.creating.me.or.whatever.
Lol, nobody is forcing you haha, even religious people don't pray but that's not the thing 'it's called worshipping' and oh well, you could just believe...atleast if you're unable to do the stuff you dislike, although it takes me 3 mins for each pray (we have 5 a day). :)

But I guess you already don't care ::) anyways, time will come and shit will show up..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 15, 2015, 11:55:06 am
lol drugs i would like to see you punch someone who can make a universe
well.I.wouldnt.fucking.praise.him.either.

I.dont.pray.to.atoms.every.day.for.creating.me.or.whatever.
Lol, nobody is forcing you haha, even religious people don't pray but that's not the thing 'it's called worshipping' and oh well, you could just believe...atleast if you're unable to do the stuff you dislike, although it takes me 3 mins for each pray (we have 5 a day). :)

But I guess you already don't care ::) anyways, time will come and shit will show up..
;)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Queen Martin on September 15, 2015, 11:56:09 am
lol drugs i would like to see you punch someone who can make a universe
well.I.wouldnt.fucking.praise.him.either.

I.dont.pray.to.atoms.every.day.for.creating.me.or.whatever.
Lol, nobody is forcing you haha, even religious people don't pray but that's not the thing 'it's called worshipping' and oh well, you could just believe...atleast if you're unable to do the stuff you dislike, although it takes me 3 mins for each pray (we have 5 a day). :)

But I guess you already don't care ::) anyways, time will come and shit will show up..
You are not scaring anyone with your "you will see" etc as you obviously see we don't care.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 15, 2015, 11:57:03 am
lol drugs i would like to see you punch someone who can make a universe
well.I.wouldnt.fucking.praise.him.either.

I.dont.pray.to.atoms.every.day.for.creating.me.or.whatever.
Lol, nobody is forcing you haha, even religious people don't pray but that's not the thing 'it's called worshipping' and oh well, you could just believe...atleast if you're unable to do the stuff you dislike, although it takes me 3 mins for each pray (we have 5 a day). :)

But I guess you already don't care ::) anyways, time will come and shit will show up..
You are not scaring anyone with your "you will see" etc as you obviously see we don't care.
I ain't threatening or 'scaring' anyone lol. As I said, matter of time.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 15, 2015, 11:57:38 am
lol drugs i would like to see you punch someone who can make a universe
well.I.wouldnt.fucking.praise.him.either.

I.dont.pray.to.atoms.every.day.for.creating.me.or.whatever.
Lol, nobody is forcing you haha, even religious people don't pray but that's not the thing 'it's called worshipping' and oh well, you could just believe...atleast if you're unable to do the stuff you dislike, although it takes me 3 mins for each pray (we have 5 a day). :)

But I guess you already don't care ::) anyways, time will come and shit will show up..
I.dont.care.if.you.believe.in.god.itself.I.hate.that.you.believe.in.some.other.shit.without.hesitation.

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Assuming you don't believe in the after life as well right? What if it really existed, you don't want to live once again? If there was heaven you would not be a part of it? I have no idea why so much negativity although the ideas are really optimistic and positive.

If you're gonna tell me you don't wish to live once again, go ahead and fuck you then, lol.

Ok.so.im.assuming.you.werent.born.either;blind,deaf,without.limbs,in,a,shithole.of.a.place.where.you.have.no.food.
What.did.people.do.wrong.to.be.born.without.limbs.or.even.worse.medical.condition?What.do.they.have.to.do.to.be.born.normal?

And.then.theres.healthy.motherfuckers.eating.3.meals.a.day.without.not.much.concerns.about.shit.that.some.people.have.and.they.want.to.be.born.again...

theres.probably.a.sick.fucking.twist.in.your.beliefs.that.say.that.they.were.meant.to.be.born.this.way.or.I.dont.fucking.know...but.thats.just.weird.

some.people.wish.they.werent.born.at.all...wheres.your.god.when.you.need.it.
Do.you.get.a.better.seat.at.heaven.if.you.were.born.in.fucking.africa.

would.you.still.have.the.same.fucking.faith.in.god.when.it.seems.that.god.has.done.everything.to.fuck.you.over?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 15, 2015, 12:02:28 pm
lol drugs i would like to see you punch someone who can make a universe
well.I.wouldnt.fucking.praise.him.either.

I.dont.pray.to.atoms.every.day.for.creating.me.or.whatever.
Lol, nobody is forcing you haha, even religious people don't pray but that's not the thing 'it's called worshipping' and oh well, you could just believe...atleast if you're unable to do the stuff you dislike, although it takes me 3 mins for each pray (we have 5 a day). :)

But I guess you already don't care ::) anyways, time will come and shit will show up..
I.dont.care.if.you.believe.in.god.itself.I.hate.that.you.believe.in.some.other.shit.without.hesitation.

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Assuming you don't believe in the after life as well right? What if it really existed, you don't want to live once again? If there was heaven you would not be a part of it? I have no idea why so much negativity although the ideas are really optimistic and positive.

If you're gonna tell me you don't wish to live once again, go ahead and fuck you then, lol.

Ok.so.im.assuming.you.werent.born.either;blind,deaf,without.limbs,in,a,shithole.of.a.place.where.you.have.no.food.
What.did.people.do.wrong.to.be.born.without.limbs.or.even.worse.medical.condition?What.do.they.have.to.do.to.be.born.normal?

And.then.theres.healthy.motherfuckers.eating.3.meals.a.day.without.not.much.concerns.about.shit.that.some.people.have.and.they.want.to.be.born.again...

theres.probably.a.sick.fucking.twist.in.your.beliefs.that.say.that.they.were.meant.to.be.born.this.way.or.I.dont.fucking.know...but.thats.just.weird.

some.people.wish.they.werent.born.at.all...wheres.your.god.when.you.need.it.
Islam says the current life is just a test you either pass or you don't. What you see if people being disable or I don't know, missing a body part maybe is all part of the test. In Doom's day, everyone will be rebirthed from his grave, everyone will be young, everyone is mentally and physically cured. Waiting for the judgment to occur, however. The second life is endless. Everyone is immortal but it's up to you to be immortal in heaven or hell.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Queen Martin on September 15, 2015, 12:03:15 pm
Karel pls there is no point in debating anything with them they will stick to their quran.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 15, 2015, 12:04:37 pm
Why.is.my.test.harder.than.your.test?
seems.like.a.harder.test.would.instantly.put.majority.of.people.taking.a.harder.test.in.hell?And.those.with.easier.test.get.a.free.pass.to.heaven?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 15, 2015, 12:05:41 pm
Karel pls there is no point in debating anything with them they will stick to their quran.
I know that most I say is supernatural for mind to accept but meh...why the fuck not, I still don't get it, why wouldn't you just believe and if it's fucking wrong then you didn't lose anything and if it's true then you won everything, that's what I can't understand...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ameer on September 15, 2015, 01:47:58 pm
Karel pls there is no point in debating anything with them they will stick to their quran.
I know that most I say is supernatural for mind to accept but meh...why the fuck not, I still don't get it, why wouldn't you just believe and if it's fucking wrong then you didn't lose anything and if it's true then you won everything, that's what I can't understand...

I don't think it works like dat  ::)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 15, 2015, 06:31:51 pm
@Rockmanexe

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wait wait wait..... when was  being rich  a measure for the existence of god, if so let me tell you then god does exist if you want to think this way
for example DUBAI, they are bunch of muslims/christians etc and they are hyper rich 

also yeah right temperature can be proved,but existence of god can't be proved?
hmmm assuming you are right that it can't be proved but the non-existence of god can't be proved either
right?
something got my attention btw
Slothknows said that imagining what it looks like in death is beyond our imagination
which is right,us humans have only our minds to use
so humans have nothing to use but their minds and look for clues etc.

The temprature can be proven by science, God can't be proven by anything
http://www.scienceclarified.com/everyday/Real-Life-Physics-Vol-2/Temperature-How-it-works.html

Saying he can't be unproven is the same as saying unicorns really do exist.
123213headed dragons with 232 dicks flying around exists.
It can't be unproven? Right?

It's a really bad arguement because it states no facts...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on September 15, 2015, 09:09:37 pm
Judgement Day will come. Let them talk Yaz. In shaa Allah they will realise what they have done. Also a question to non believers: What d ya think will happen when you die?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on September 15, 2015, 09:14:38 pm
Judgement Day will come. Let them talk Yaz. In shaa Allah they will realise what they have done. Also a question to non believers: What d ya think will happen when you die?

Life will switch off just like a light does. Then you get buried 6ft under to rot and let the insects feast on your flesh.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 15, 2015, 09:22:48 pm
Judgement Day will come. Let them talk Yaz. In shaa Allah they will realise what they have done. Also a question to non believers: What d ya think will happen when you die?
a thousand year old book predicts judgement day, Sounds legit.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Tomtim1 on September 15, 2015, 09:58:47 pm
Judgement Day will come. Let them talk Yaz. In shaa Allah they will realise what they have done. Also a question to non believers: What d ya think will happen when you die?
I become a tiger just as Mario becomes a camel.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 15, 2015, 10:08:57 pm
theory:

kid.borns.with.down.syndrome.Nicely.put.hes.retarded.as.fuck.Doesnt.know.what.god.is.Doesnt.understand.when.you.explain.it.
God.created.him.but.he.has.no.idea.of.it.whatsoever.and.you.cant.tell.him.that.cause.hes.stupid.

doesnt.believe.in.god...but.god.created.him.

-goes.to.hell
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kaner on September 16, 2015, 03:07:44 am
Why should we have to spend our lives praying to god. If it were a test, don't you think god would want us to focus on it, instead of praying to him.

Anyone who says "Time will come, you will see" or "You're going to hell" can jog on. I'd happily punch each and every one of you in the face. If I am a hard worker, kind to people and the best person I can be, I don't give a fuck what god thinks of me. If me not believing means I'm going to hell, god can suck my dick.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/mlyN1HpIzElDa/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 16, 2015, 09:01:36 am
Why should we have to spend our lives praying to god. If it were a test, don't you think god would want us to focus on it, instead of praying to him.

Anyone who says "Time will come, you will see" or "You're going to hell" can jog on. I'd happily punch each and every one of you in the face. If I am a hard worker, kind to people and the best person I can be, I don't give a fuck what god thinks of me. If me not believing means I'm going to hell, god can suck my dick.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/mlyN1HpIzElDa/giphy.gif)

First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in,

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.

In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.




In my opinion who ever doesn't believe in god here, I know deep down that if i give him a million prove that god does exists, Because he doesn't believe in god, he will go to find something in return that's gives the opposite of it by using wiki or any source by google, but what he doesn't know that whatever he gives back in return that shows the opposite isn't PROVEN, Just couple of human decided to write some words without proves, discussing here will not lead to any achieve in my opinion that's why in the first place i didn't want to gives proves that god is real and I WONT.

However I'd like to share a little something, The quran tells things how this universes created for example things that in our day scientists just figure it out, So how come before 1400 years a messenger  know all this stuff? Things that we still doesn't know and we still figure it out, which before 1400 years there was technology or anything that will let them know things that in our days hard to figure.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 16, 2015, 11:37:18 am
Why should we have to spend our lives praying to god. If it were a test, don't you think god would want us to focus on it, instead of praying to him.

Anyone who says "Time will come, you will see" or "You're going to hell" can jog on. I'd happily punch each and every one of you in the face. If I am a hard worker, kind to people and the best person I can be, I don't give a fuck what god thinks of me. If me not believing means I'm going to hell, god can suck my dick.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/mlyN1HpIzElDa/giphy.gif)

First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in,

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.

1)In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.




In my opinion who ever doesn't believe in god here, I know deep down that if i give him a million prove that god does exists, Because he doesn't believe in god, he will go to find something in return that's gives the opposite of it by using wiki or any source by google, but what he doesn't know that whatever he gives back in return that shows the opposite isn't PROVEN, Just couple of human decided to write some words without proves, discussing here will not lead to any achieve in my opinion that's why in the first place i didn't want to gives proves that god is real and I WONT.

However I'd like to share a little something, The quran tells things how this universes created for example things that in our day scientists just figure it out, So how come before 1400 years a messenger  know all this stuff? Things that we still doesn't know and we still figure it out, which before 1400 years there was technology or anything that will let them know things that in our days hard to figure.

1)
Believes.that.god.created.all.humans..gets.mad.at.gods.creation.
When.god.created.us.then.why.did.they.create.us.to.not.believe.him.And.furthermore.why.would.you.question.your.gods.creation?

Rest.of.the.stuff.you.wrote.was.something.like.this...

I.believe.if.I.gave.you.the.proof-doesnt.give.me.anything...
-but.I.believe.if.I.did.you.would.overrule.it.therefore.I.cant.do.it.because.I.would.be.wrong...kcool.

-
If.its.true.that.your.messenger.assumed.few.things.correctly.(and.probably.most.of.them.were.incorrect).does.that.mean.hes.the.smartest.man.in.the.world?He.didnt.prove.it.
Scientists.make.theories.and.go.out.to.prove.them-they.wont.claim.their.theories.to.be.the.absolute.truth.until.they.can.prove.it.

Did.your.messenger.write.down.the.physics.and.numbers.behind.his.assumptions?I.doubt.
He.might.have.assumed.few.things.correctly.but.he.didnt.prove.his.assumptions.nor.he.tried.to.
He.probably.just.wanted.100%.faith.in.his.theories.

If.I.tell.you.that.you.will.die.in.7.years.and.I.cant.prove.it.you.wont.take.me.seriously.now.if.I.had.proof.you.would.believe.me..
Why.would.I.believe.that.your.god.is.real.when.you.have.no.proof.of.it.

also:
You.didnt.list.any.of.the.things.your.messenger.claimed.1400years.ago.with.valid.sources.you.just.said.that.he.did.
Is.it.so.hard.for.you.to.even.know.what.your.messenger.stated.to.be.true?When,youre.such.a.good.follower.of.him.why.couldnt.you.just.quickly.list.few.of.the.things.isntead.you.decided.not.to.because.we.dont.believe.in.god.anyways...

but...Discussing.what.some.random.dude.wrote.down.1400.years.ago.can.still.be.debated.if.you.gave.us.proof.Excluding.the.god.debate.

I.notice.it.more.and.more.that.you.even.vaguely.quote.Quaran.even.tho.you.claim.that.its.the.holy.book.
Maybe.you.should.know.more.shit.about.your.holy.book.then?Maybe.go.read.it.to.a.extent.that.you.know.most.of.the.shit.about.it.or.atleast.basics.so.you.can.pull.out.some.certain.quotes.from.the.book.instead.of.just.stuttering.out.some.random.shit.about.your.book.in.half.a.sentence.

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The quran tells things how this universes created for example things that in our day scientists just figure it out, So how come before 1400 years a messenger  know all this stuff? Things that we still doesn't know and we still figure it out, which before 1400 years there was technology or anything that will let them know things that in our days hard to figure.

Like.this^
What.the.fuck.thats.a.waste.of.sentence.
It.doesnt.say.anything.you.didnt.quote.anything.from.the.book.itself.you.just.said.that.it.was.written.down.
If.it.was.written.down.then.maybe.fucking.write.it.down.for.us.also?

"the.Quaran.tells"
Tells.fucking.what.you.didnt.say.anything.that.Quaran.tells..

Go.read.your.own.fucking.Quaran.and.learn.it.to.a.extent.that.you.understand.it.
It.seems.that.you.cant.even.udnerstand.the.damn.book.yet.you.bring.it.up.so.fucking.much.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 16, 2015, 11:46:34 am
God created something that questions him by saying that he doesn't exist.

Good job, God.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 16, 2015, 11:49:44 am
God created something that questions him by saying that he doesn't exist.

Good job, God.
My.point.exactly.

are.we.just.people.that.are.suppose.to.test.belivers.faith?
Is.our.purpose.in.this.life.to.test.belivers.faith.and.if.they.keep.believing.they.still.go.to.heaven.cause.their.faith.is.strong?

Then.what.is.our.purpose?(who.dont.believe.in.god)our.only.purpose.is.to.test.your.faith.
So.god.created.us.nonbelievers.because.thats.our.purpose.
Does.that.mean.we.get.a.free.pass.to.heaven?Or.did.god.just.randomly.create.people.that.directly.go.to.hell?

Why.did.god.create.humans.that.are.nonbelivers.and.go.to.hell?


our.purpose.in.life.is.to.be.nonbelivers
-to.test.belivers.faith
-but.we.were.still.created.by.god
-god.creates.nonbelivers
-nonbelievers.go.to.hell
-god.created.people.that.automatically.go.to.hell
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 16, 2015, 01:08:53 pm
Just couple of human decided to write some words without proves,
And here's the definition of religion
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 16, 2015, 01:50:17 pm
Why should we have to spend our lives praying to god. If it were a test, don't you think god would want us to focus on it, instead of praying to him.

Anyone who says "Time will come, you will see" or "You're going to hell" can jog on. I'd happily punch each and every one of you in the face. If I am a hard worker, kind to people and the best person I can be, I don't give a fuck what god thinks of me. If me not believing means I'm going to hell, god can suck my dick.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/mlyN1HpIzElDa/giphy.gif)

First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in,

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.

1)In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.




In my opinion who ever doesn't believe in god here, I know deep down that if i give him a million prove that god does exists, Because he doesn't believe in god, he will go to find something in return that's gives the opposite of it by using wiki or any source by google, but what he doesn't know that whatever he gives back in return that shows the opposite isn't PROVEN, Just couple of human decided to write some words without proves, discussing here will not lead to any achieve in my opinion that's why in the first place i didn't want to gives proves that god is real and I WONT.

However I'd like to share a little something, The quran tells things how this universes created for example things that in our day scientists just figure it out, So how come before 1400 years a messenger  know all this stuff? Things that we still doesn't know and we still figure it out, which before 1400 years there was technology or anything that will let them know things that in our days hard to figure.

1)
Believes.that.god.created.all.humans..gets.mad.at.gods.creation.
When.god.created.us.then.why.did.they.create.us.to.not.believe.him.And.furthermore.why.would.you.question.your.gods.creation?

Rest.of.the.stuff.you.wrote.was.something.like.this...

I.believe.if.I.gave.you.the.proof-doesnt.give.me.anything...
-but.I.believe.if.I.did.you.would.overrule.it.therefore.I.cant.do.it.because.I.would.be.wrong...kcool.

-
If.its.true.that.your.messenger.assumed.few.things.correctly.(and.probably.most.of.them.were.incorrect).does.that.mean.hes.the.smartest.man.in.the.world?He.didnt.prove.it.
Scientists.make.theories.and.go.out.to.prove.them-they.wont.claim.their.theories.to.be.the.absolute.truth.until.they.can.prove.it.

Did.your.messenger.write.down.the.physics.and.numbers.behind.his.assumptions?I.doubt.
He.might.have.assumed.few.things.correctly.but.he.didnt.prove.his.assumptions.nor.he.tried.to.
He.probably.just.wanted.100%.faith.in.his.theories.

If.I.tell.you.that.you.will.die.in.7.years.and.I.cant.prove.it.you.wont.take.me.seriously.now.if.I.had.proof.you.would.believe.me..
Why.would.I.believe.that.your.god.is.real.when.you.have.no.proof.of.it.

also:
You.didnt.list.any.of.the.things.your.messenger.claimed.1400years.ago.with.valid.sources.you.just.said.that.he.did.
Is.it.so.hard.for.you.to.even.know.what.your.messenger.stated.to.be.true?When,youre.such.a.good.follower.of.him.why.couldnt.you.just.quickly.list.few.of.the.things.isntead.you.decided.not.to.because.we.dont.believe.in.god.anyways...

but...Discussing.what.some.random.dude.wrote.down.1400.years.ago.can.still.be.debated.if.you.gave.us.proof.Excluding.the.god.debate.

I.notice.it.more.and.more.that.you.even.vaguely.quote.Quaran.even.tho.you.claim.that.its.the.holy.book.
Maybe.you.should.know.more.shit.about.your.holy.book.then?Maybe.go.read.it.to.a.extent.that.you.know.most.of.the.shit.about.it.or.atleast.basics.so.you.can.pull.out.some.certain.quotes.from.the.book.instead.of.just.stuttering.out.some.random.shit.about.your.book.in.half.a.sentence.

Quote
The quran tells things how this universes created for example things that in our day scientists just figure it out, So how come before 1400 years a messenger  know all this stuff? Things that we still doesn't know and we still figure it out, which before 1400 years there was technology or anything that will let them know things that in our days hard to figure.

Like.this^
What.the.fuck.thats.a.waste.of.sentence.
It.doesnt.say.anything.you.didnt.quote.anything.from.the.book.itself.you.just.said.that.it.was.written.down.
If.it.was.written.down.then.maybe.fucking.write.it.down.for.us.also?

"the.Quaran.tells"
Tells.fucking.what.you.didnt.say.anything.that.Quaran.tells..

Go.read.your.own.fucking.Quaran.and.learn.it.to.a.extent.that.you.understand.it.
It.seems.that.you.cant.even.udnerstand.the.damn.book.yet.you.bring.it.up.so.fucking.much.

Ok, I got your point for the first question and here's your answer:
God created us for a reason, But you asking why he created us to start asking if he exists or not, Well this question is being asked only by someone who doesn't believe in him, Which means why don't you search a little bit more if he's real or not? if there's a big question mark about this question,
I can tell you if you just search a little bit and start telling yourself that MAYBE this bible book is real, and i should just find out that for myself if he's real or not

Moreover what do you call a book that tells us things that we didn't know and a messenger just write it down in a book, before 1400 years? nothing?

actually i can give you a proves and i didn't say i can't but i just simple said i won't because i know if i even give a million proofs nobody want to believe, It's like i will never believe in god and even if you give me more proofs i will not, so why should i waste my time?

I didn't say he's the smartest i said how could he knows things before 1400 years and that things we still don't know or we still figure them out, and there's nothing incorrect that he said, if you have something PROVEN that my messenger gave it wrong, quote it to me "no fucking wiki"
What i meant there must be a god who told my messenger about things before 1400 years that we still figure them out until this day.

Scientists.make.theories.and.go.out.to.prove.them: ok well so how did he know things that in our day scientists still looking to figure them out?

So number which means you believe that god is real?

I didn't say that i don't have proof " i said i have but i won't show proofs"

Yes i didn't give anything that my messenger stated because i don't want to, simple as this if you want to find out just google for it, it won't take long by title name, "miracles the quran proven"

I did read it and as i said i won't give any proofs if you want proofs go search for them by yourself,

Why do you know prove the opposite that god doesn't exists while i have to prove he's real?
Give me something proofs anything that tells you that he doesn't exists

I'd say that you have some rage issues that you must work on, Seems like my bible books gives you a lot rage which leads you to not respect other and what they believe in, so please if you would like to discuss more about it, be fucking respectful at least it's all i'm asking for.

By.the.way.it.should.took.you.so.long.to.quote.my.reply.by.writing.this.dots.

Just couple of human decided to write some words without proves,
And here's the definition of religion

If you read my whole post you wouldn't reply this,
What i meant is, When i give proofs that god is real, people will come up with un proved proofs that couple of humans decided to write it down, just because they hate the religion itself.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on September 16, 2015, 01:58:58 pm

actually i can give you a proves and i didn't say i can't but i just simple said i won't because i know if i even give a million proofs nobody want to believe, It's like i will never believe in god and even if you give me more proofs i will not, so why should i waste my time?

This is all that matters ^
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 16, 2015, 02:58:00 pm
Allah.and.jesus.are.terrorists.who.live.in.heaven.
This.is.my.bible.and.it.clearly.states.it.

I.cant.prove.it.but.I.have.my.bible.and.it.says.so.right.there.
If.anyone.disagrees.im.gonna.claim.that.youre.stupid.and.ignorant.
if.you.dont.like.my.religion.then.dont.reply.
I.am.the.only.god.in.universe.
I.cant.prove.that.im.god.even.tho.im.alive.but.trust.me.im.god.
I.created.shit

(http://i.imgur.com/o0LJwKQ.png)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 16, 2015, 03:11:12 pm
Why should we have to spend our lives praying to god. If it were a test, don't you think god would want us to focus on it, instead of praying to him.

Anyone who says "Time will come, you will see" or "You're going to hell" can jog on. I'd happily punch each and every one of you in the face. If I am a hard worker, kind to people and the best person I can be, I don't give a fuck what god thinks of me. If me not believing means I'm going to hell, god can suck my dick.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/mlyN1HpIzElDa/giphy.gif)
ehm in quran it doesn't really tell you to waste your time on praying just to clear things, it never forces you to do anything, actually it even points to do jobs and science and all life needs, we aren't robots that only pray :P.
also you guys saying why would god create someone who question his existence, well since you were informed that Islam and quran exist you should really search for the truth.
also why do you have the idea that all arabs are terrorists, when you stop having these ideas you can come to shit from your mouth
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 16, 2015, 03:26:52 pm
Hey scientists I still didn't know how we exist.

You said it has to do something with explosions which are caused by elements...Okay maybe. But how in the world elements existed from the nothingness???
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 16, 2015, 03:28:14 pm
Hey scientists I still didn't know how we exist.

You said it has to do something with explosions which are caused by elements...Okay maybe. But how in the world elements existed from the nothingness???
How.does.god.exist.from.nothingness ::)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on September 16, 2015, 03:41:37 pm
God is not real.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ameer on September 16, 2015, 03:55:30 pm
Dam ,


Dunno what are you guys discussing here ,
It doesn't matter how hard you to try to explain it they won't believe in him / her or it, moreover Yaz , knight night and the other dudes will keep believing in god / allah or whatever you wanna call him.


Can I lock it pls ?


EDIT : I don't believe in Mohamed , Quran , Bible , Jesus , Jews book and Jews god / messenger .


Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 16, 2015, 04:21:24 pm
Dam ,


Dunno what are you guys discussing here ,
It doesn't matter how hard you to try to explain it they won't believe in him / her or it, moreover Yaz , knight night and the other dudes will keep believing in god / allah or whatever you wanna call him.


Can I lock it pls ?


EDIT : I don't believe in Mohamed , Quran , Bible , Jesus , Jews book and Jews god / messenger .

No need to lock, people would just take the discussion to SB or other threads. Dedicated thread for this is nice.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 16, 2015, 05:09:21 pm
Dam ,


Dunno what are you guys discussing here ,
It doesn't matter how hard you to try to explain it they won't believe in him / her or it, moreover Yaz , knight night and the other dudes will keep believing in god / allah or whatever you wanna call him.


Can I lock it pls ?


EDIT : I don't believe in Mohamed , Quran , Bible , Jesus , Jews book and Jews god / messenger .

No, you can't lock it sorry :P
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 16, 2015, 05:21:06 pm
Hey scientists I still didn't know how we exist.

You said it has to do something with explosions which are caused by elements...Okay maybe. But how in the world elements existed from the nothingness???
How.does.god.exist.from.nothingness ::)
That's not my business lol, my question was very clear lol.

As for your thingy...'God' that's the answer lol.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Charr on September 16, 2015, 06:03:55 pm
Hey scientists I still didn't know how we exist.

You said it has to do something with explosions which are caused by elements...Okay maybe. But how in the world elements existed from the nothingness???
That there are only theories on, because we only know of the big bang due to the universe's constant expansion.
There is another theory called the 'big bounce' which is basically a cycle of expansion and contraction of the universe, this is only a theory though but it is still interesting to read about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bounce

Just here to drop off some science again, this doesn't really answer your question directly though.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on September 16, 2015, 06:05:31 pm
Hey scientists I still didn't know how we exist.

You said it has to do something with explosions which are caused by elements...Okay maybe. But how in the world elements existed from the nothingness???
That there are only theories on, because we only know of the big bang due to the universe's constant expansion.
There is another theory called the 'big bounce' which is basically a cycle of expansion and contraction of the universe, this is only a theory though but it is still interesting to read about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bounce

Just here to drop off some science again, this doesn't really answer your question directly though.

yh there is a theory that when the universe expands to it's limit it will shrink again and go back to where it started.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Charr on September 16, 2015, 06:05:54 pm
Hey scientists I still didn't know how we exist.

You said it has to do something with explosions which are caused by elements...Okay maybe. But how in the world elements existed from the nothingness???
That there are only theories on, because we only know of the big bang due to the universe's constant expansion.
There is another theory called the 'big bounce' which is basically a cycle of expansion and contraction of the universe, this is only a theory though but it is still interesting to read about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bounce

Just here to drop off some science again, this doesn't really answer your question directly though.

yh there is a theory that when the universe expands to it's limit it will shrink again and go back to where it started.
Thank you for repeating what I just said.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on September 16, 2015, 06:09:37 pm
Hey scientists I still didn't know how we exist.

You said it has to do something with explosions which are caused by elements...Okay maybe. But how in the world elements existed from the nothingness???
That there are only theories on, because we only know of the big bang due to the universe's constant expansion.
There is another theory called the 'big bounce' which is basically a cycle of expansion and contraction of the universe, this is only a theory though but it is still interesting to read about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bounce

Just here to drop off some science again, this doesn't really answer your question directly though.

yh there is a theory that when the universe expands to it's limit it will shrink again and go back to where it started.
Thank you for repeating what I just said.

just checked the article and noticed that I repeated what you said :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 16, 2015, 06:34:29 pm
Allah.and.jesus.are.terrorists.who.live.in.heaven.
This.is.my.bible.and.it.clearly.states.it.

I.cant.prove.it.but.I.have.my.bible.and.it.says.so.right.there.
If.anyone.disagrees.im.gonna.claim.that.youre.stupid.and.ignorant.
if.you.dont.like.my.religion.then.dont.reply.
I.am.the.only.god.in.universe.
I.cant.prove.that.im.god.even.tho.im.alive.but.trust.me.im.god.
I.created.shit

(http://i.imgur.com/o0LJwKQ.png)

1- Link me to your bible book
2- You're a fucking piece of shit not a god, If i punch you in the face you will run to your mom crying, GOD DOESN'T CRY, DOESN'T BLEED
3- I don't like you and your should be hated for not respecting other and what they believe in.
4- And you're right you create shit nothing more then that
5- I already said it once and i'll say it again, You will be more then respected if you being called a human.

as i said before you asking for proves that god exists, I want you to prove the opposite that he doesn't exists can you or anyone prove that he's not real?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 16, 2015, 06:37:41 pm
Allah.and.jesus.are.terrorists.who.live.in.heaven.
This.is.my.bible.and.it.clearly.states.it.

I.cant.prove.it.but.I.have.my.bible.and.it.says.so.right.there.
If.anyone.disagrees.im.gonna.claim.that.youre.stupid.and.ignorant.
if.you.dont.like.my.religion.then.dont.reply.
I.am.the.only.god.in.universe.
I.cant.prove.that.im.god.even.tho.im.alive.but.trust.me.im.god.
I.created.shit

(http://i.imgur.com/o0LJwKQ.png)

as i said before you asking for proves that god exists, I want you to prove the opposite that he doesn't exists can you or anyone prove that he's not real?
Again with this dumb ass reply. Don't bother replying with it 1231323 times.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 16, 2015, 06:37:56 pm
Allah.and.jesus.are.terrorists.who.live.in.heaven.
This.is.my.bible.and.it.clearly.states.it.

I.cant.prove.it.but.I.have.my.bible.and.it.says.so.right.there.
If.anyone.disagrees.im.gonna.claim.that.youre.stupid.and.ignorant.
if.you.dont.like.my.religion.then.dont.reply.
I.am.the.only.god.in.universe.
I.cant.prove.that.im.god.even.tho.im.alive.but.trust.me.im.god.
I.created.shit

(http://i.imgur.com/o0LJwKQ.png)

1- Link me to your bible book
2- You're a fucking pies of shit not a god, If i punch you in the face you will run to your mom crying, GOD DOESN'T CRY, DOESN'T BLEED
3- I don't like you and your should be hated for not respecting other and what they believe in.
4- And you're right you create shit nothing more then that
5- I already said it once and i'll say it again, You will be more then respected if you being called a human.

as i said before you asking for proves that god exists, I want you to prove the opposite that he doesn't exists can you or anyone prove that he's not real?

I said before. Can you prove 2312312313 headed dragons with 9999 thousand dicks is not real? If not, it's real. Right?

Who said God doesn't cry, God doesnt bleed? How do you even know that? Have you ever seen him cry? Or bleed?
No, because you have never seen him at all. Stop saying this random bullshit that when you turn the words it can be used against you.

Prove god exist - Prove dragons with 12321 dicks raping a child on 2131 off his dicks doesnt exist.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 16, 2015, 06:44:15 pm
Allah.and.jesus.are.terrorists.who.live.in.heaven.
This.is.my.bible.and.it.clearly.states.it.

I.cant.prove.it.but.I.have.my.bible.and.it.says.so.right.there.
If.anyone.disagrees.im.gonna.claim.that.youre.stupid.and.ignorant.
if.you.dont.like.my.religion.then.dont.reply.
I.am.the.only.god.in.universe.
I.cant.prove.that.im.god.even.tho.im.alive.but.trust.me.im.god.
I.created.shit

(http://i.imgur.com/o0LJwKQ.png)

1- Link me to your bible book
2- You're a fucking piece of shit not a god, If i punch you in the face you will run to your mom crying, GOD DOESN'T CRY, DOESN'T BLEED
3- I don't like you and your should be hated for not respecting other and what they believe in.
4- And you're right you create shit nothing more then that
5- I already said it once and i'll say it again, You will be more then respected if you being called a human.

as i said before you asking for proves that god exists, I want you to prove the opposite that he doesn't exists can you or anyone prove that he's not real?
Charr asked someone here earlier to link the quran, but whoever it was refused because it's in arbec language and he wouldn't understand. What if drugs' bible is in his own made up language
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 16, 2015, 08:13:45 pm
@Suryoyo K0, This isn't a dumb question, You want from me to prove something, Could you just prove that he doesn't exists, Or why you doesn't believe that he isn't there?
I know that nobody will answer this question, Because nobody got an answer for it, And that's why you call it dumb question, because you couldn't find the answer.

@Avenus, Sorry i didn't get the example you were trying to give.
How could be that a God as i'm believing in, Who created us, and this universes, AS I'M SAYING/BELIEVING, will bleed? or cry?
It's not about seeing him, It's about believing in him that he created something non human could do.
Moreover if he will bleed/cry well he won't be called a GOD.
You just asked the dumbest question i ever heard.

You just keep asking for the same over and over and i just keep answer the same question over and over again, I'm not proving for you anything, YOU WANT PROVES FIND IT YOURSELF, START SEARCHING.

@King125,
Well, If you read his fully post he said something, You might not read it, He said that the true meaning for the quran in only in Arabic, and if you do translate it into another language, It will change the meaning of it, and it might be not as clear as the original language, if you really want to read it, just search in google for this: The quran, simple.

Here's a link who thinks about the big bang, please watch it all:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 16, 2015, 08:27:43 pm
@Suryoyo K0, This isn't a dumb question, You want from me to prove something, Could you just prove that he doesn't exists, Or why you doesn't believe that he isn't there?
I know that nobody will answer this question, Because nobody got an answer for it, And that's why you call it dumb question, because you couldn't find the answer.

@Avenus, Sorry i didn't get the example you were trying to give.
How could be that a God as i'm believing in, Who created us, and this universes, AS I'M SAYING/BELIEVING, will bleed? or cry?
It's not about seeing him, It's about believing in him that he created something non human could do.
Moreover if he will bleed/cry well he won't be called a GOD.
You just asked the dumbest question i ever heard.

You just keep asking for the same over and over and i just keep answer the same question over and over again, I'm not proving for you anything, YOU WANT PROVES FIND IT YOURSELF, START SEARCHING.

@King125,
Well, If you read his fully post he said something, You might not read it, He said that the true meaning for the quran in only in Arabic, and if you do translate it into another language, It will change the meaning of it, and it might be not as clear as the original language, if you really want to read it, just search in google for this: The quran, simple.

Dumshit, you said.

"as i said before you asking for proves that god exists, I want you to prove the opposite that he doesn't exists can you or anyone prove that he's not real?"

You want us to prove the opposite that he doesnt exist.
How the fuck can you prove that something doesn't exist - doesn't exist. When it doesn't exist, it really doesn't fucking exist. It's just a fairytale.
Just like all the dragons you have ever heard or read about. You must be the most deluded kid out there.
You keep saying you won't prove that god exist. Well ofcourse you want, because you cant.
Everything you say, have said or will say is retarded or will be retarded. I dont know why you even bother to reply with no legitimate arguements.

"i talk to him before i sleep" is not an arguement.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 16, 2015, 08:30:59 pm
@Suryoyo K0, This isn't a dumb question, You want from me to prove something, Could you just prove that he doesn't exists, Or why you doesn't believe that he isn't there?
I know that nobody will answer this question, Because nobody got an answer for it, And that's why you call it dumb question, because you couldn't find the answer.

@Avenus, Sorry i didn't get the example you were trying to give.
How could be that a God as i'm believing in, Who created us, and this universes, AS I'M SAYING/BELIEVING, will bleed? or cry?
It's not about seeing him, It's about believing in him that he created something non human could do.
Moreover if he will bleed/cry well he won't be called a GOD.
You just asked the dumbest question i ever heard.

You just keep asking for the same over and over and i just keep answer the same question over and over again, I'm not proving for you anything, YOU WANT PROVES FIND IT YOURSELF, START SEARCHING.

@King125,
Well, If you read his fully post he said something, You might not read it, He said that the true meaning for the quran in only in Arabic, and if you do translate it into another language, It will change the meaning of it, and it might be not as clear as the original language, if you really want to read it, just search in google for this: The quran, simple.

Dumshit, you said.

"as i said before you asking for proves that god exists, I want you to prove the opposite that he doesn't exists can you or anyone prove that he's not real?"

You want us to prove the opposite that he doesnt exist.
How the fuck can you prove that something doesn't exist - doesn't exist. When it doesn't exist, it really doesn't fucking exist. It's just a fairytale.
Just like all the dragons you have ever heard or read about. You must be the most deluded kid out there.
You keep saying you won't prove that god exist. Well ofcourse you want, because you cant.
Everything you say, have said or will say is retarded or will be retarded. I dont know why you even bother to reply with no legitimate arguements.

"i talk to him before i sleep" is not an arguement.

I've gave a samll link of a video in my previous reply could you watch it?
If you doesn't believe in something tell us why???, That's the point of my question.
It's like you doesn't believe in him, Then why?
You doesn't believe he exists, why do you think he doesn't exists?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 16, 2015, 09:45:29 pm
Allah.and.jesus.are.terrorists.who.live.in.heaven.
This.is.my.bible.and.it.clearly.states.it.

I.cant.prove.it.but.I.have.my.bible.and.it.says.so.right.there.
If.anyone.disagrees.im.gonna.claim.that.youre.stupid.and.ignorant.
if.you.dont.like.my.religion.then.dont.reply.
I.am.the.only.god.in.universe.
I.cant.prove.that.im.god.even.tho.im.alive.but.trust.me.im.god.
I.created.shit

(http://i.imgur.com/o0LJwKQ.png)

1- Link me to your bible book
2- You're a fucking piece of shit not a god, If i punch you in the face you will run to your mom crying, GOD DOESN'T CRY, DOESN'T BLEED
3- I don't like you and your should be hated for not respecting other and what they believe in.
4- And you're right you create shit nothing more then that
5- I already said it once and i'll say it again, You will be more then respected if you being called a human.

as i said before you asking for proves that god exists, I want you to prove the opposite that he doesn't exists can you or anyone prove that he's not real?

1)my.bible.book.only.contains.2.pages.Page.1.is.how.I.created.the.universe.in.one.sentence...I.just.did.and.theres.nothing.do.it.
2)if.you.live.in.Estonia.I.can.pm.you.my.facebook.or.whatever.contacts.you.need.to.find.me.and.punch.me.in.the.face.and.well.see.from.that.If.not.lets.leave.it.at.that.
3)You.dont.like.me?I.dont.like.you.I.dont.respect.your.religion...you.dont.respect.my.religion.
4)Do.you.even.understand.the.stuff.you.write.down?I.dont.
5)Same.as.4.didnt.understand.

Stop.trying.to.even.post.in.this.thread.and.go.back.to.whatever.you.were.doing.previously.
I.think.you.should.know.the.basics.of.english.language.to.some.degree.that.you.can.explain.yourself.and.your.thoughts

I.can.see.that.you.are.trying.your.hardest.to.write.down.sentences.but.its.just.not.working.out.in.anyones.favor.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kaner on September 17, 2015, 03:23:55 am
Why should we have to spend our lives praying to god. If it were a test, don't you think god would want us to focus on it, instead of praying to him.

Anyone who says "Time will come, you will see" or "You're going to hell" can jog on. I'd happily punch each and every one of you in the face. If I am a hard worker, kind to people and the best person I can be, I don't give a fuck what god thinks of me. If me not believing means I'm going to hell, god can suck my dick.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/mlyN1HpIzElDa/giphy.gif)

First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in,

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.

In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.


First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in

I was not raging or mad when writing that post. If you were to come up to me in real life and say that I'm going to hell or something along those lines simply because I don't believe I would tell you to get fucked and give you a good jab to the face <3 (Not saying you would, however you sound like you're that type of person)

Religion is let down by so many half-wits who follow god. I bet you're one of those people who think everyone who doesn't believe in god is a terrible person.

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.


Why would I waste my "test" time praying to him when I can do that when I'm in heaven. Also, what does he get from me praying to him?

In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.

Your opinion is invalid because you're a fruit loop. And I eat fruit loops for breakfast

(http://i.imgur.com/6gstmSl.png)


ehm in quran it doesn't really tell you to waste your time on praying just to clear things, it never forces you to do anything

If it never forces you to do anything then why do we have to pray to go to heaven? Why do we have to believe to go to heaven?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 17, 2015, 10:18:55 am
Why should we have to spend our lives praying to god. If it were a test, don't you think god would want us to focus on it, instead of praying to him.

Anyone who says "Time will come, you will see" or "You're going to hell" can jog on. I'd happily punch each and every one of you in the face. If I am a hard worker, kind to people and the best person I can be, I don't give a fuck what god thinks of me. If me not believing means I'm going to hell, god can suck my dick.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/mlyN1HpIzElDa/giphy.gif)

First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in,

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.

In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.


First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in

I was not raging or mad when writing that post. If you were to come up to me in real life and say that I'm going to hell or something along those lines simply because I don't believe I would tell you to get fucked and give you a good jab to the face <3 (Not saying you would, however you sound like you're that type of person)

Religion is let down by so many half-wits who follow god. I bet you're one of those people who think everyone who doesn't believe in god is a terrible person.

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.


Why would I waste my "test" time praying to him when I can do that when I'm in heaven. Also, what does he get from me praying to him?

In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.

Your opinion is invalid because you're a fruit loop. And I eat fruit loops for breakfast

(http://i.imgur.com/6gstmSl.png)


ehm in quran it doesn't really tell you to waste your time on praying just to clear things, it never forces you to do anything

If it never forces you to do anything then why do we have to pray to go to heaven? Why do we have to believe to go to heaven?

From your last post, It seems that you raging, i couldn't tell more, neither i wasn't right next to you when you writhed it down, so i do judge you from the way you talking only.

I didn't say who doesn't believe in god is a terrible person, You might be a good person, who knows.

Imagine for a sec that God is real and he gave you everything in your life, Isn't that enough reason to pray for him?
You have to pray for him in this life and not in heaven because, This life called a test and he's testing you in this life not in heaven.
Actually i have no answer for your last question, which was, what he gets if we pray to him?
But i'm pretty sure i can find an answer for it if you want, and i'm more sure that there's a reason why.

*Nice picture tho.

By the way, I've posted a video if you would like to watch it, One prove that god exists, If you want!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 17, 2015, 10:33:46 am
Why should we have to spend our lives praying to god. If it were a test, don't you think god would want us to focus on it, instead of praying to him.

Anyone who says "Time will come, you will see" or "You're going to hell" can jog on. I'd happily punch each and every one of you in the face. If I am a hard worker, kind to people and the best person I can be, I don't give a fuck what god thinks of me. If me not believing means I'm going to hell, god can suck my dick.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/mlyN1HpIzElDa/giphy.gif)

First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in,

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.

In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.


First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in

I was not raging or mad when writing that post. If you were to come up to me in real life and say that I'm going to hell or something along those lines simply because I don't believe I would tell you to get fucked and give you a good jab to the face <3 (Not saying you would, however you sound like you're that type of person)

Religion is let down by so many half-wits who follow god. I bet you're one of those people who think everyone who doesn't believe in god is a terrible person.

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.


Why would I waste my "test" time praying to him when I can do that when I'm in heaven. Also, what does he get from me praying to him?

In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.

Your opinion is invalid because you're a fruit loop. And I eat fruit loops for breakfast

(http://i.imgur.com/6gstmSl.png)


ehm in quran it doesn't really tell you to waste your time on praying just to clear things, it never forces you to do anything

If it never forces you to do anything then why do we have to pray to go to heaven? Why do we have to believe to go to heaven?

From your last post, It seems that you raging, i couldn't tell more, neither i wasn't right next to you when you writhed it down, so i do judge you from the way you talking only.

I didn't say who doesn't believe in god is a terrible person, You might be a good person, who knows.

Imagine for a sec that God is real and he gave you everything in your life, Isn't that enough reason to pray for him?
You have to pray for him in this life and not in heaven because, This life called a test and he's testing you in this life not in heaven.
Actually i have no answer for your last question, which was, what he gets if we pray to him?
But i'm pretty sure i can find an answer for it if you want, and i'm more sure that there's a reason why.

*Nice picture tho.

By the way, I've posted a video if you would like to watch it, One prove that god exists, If you want!

We fighting with links now?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on September 17, 2015, 12:19:30 pm
If God is real, why is there so much hatred, war, disease, and terminal illness in the world? Don't reply with your bullshit "life is a test, if you have cancer you will be reborn as a gold majestic 12 headed dragon that can do anything he wants".

How can you say God is real when young children suffer/die from horrific illnesses, surely if God was real, the world would be perfect?

I am not religious, and there is nothing anybody in this thread can say that would even have the slightest chance of converting me.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 17, 2015, 12:47:07 pm
If God is real, why is there so much hatred, war, disease, and terminal illness in the world? Don't reply with your bullshit "life is a test, if you have cancer you will be reborn as a gold majestic 12 headed dragon that can do anything he wants".

How can you say God is real when young children suffer/die from horrific illnesses, surely if God was real, the world would be perfect?

I am not religious, and there is nothing anybody in this thread can say that would even have the slightest chance of converting me.

Watching stillbirths are among the absolute favorite past time activities for God. I bet homosexuals were also created so God can watch Muslims brutally execute them for great laughs.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 17, 2015, 12:50:39 pm
If God is real, why is there so much hatred, war, disease, and terminal illness in the world? Don't reply with your bullshit "life is a test, if you have cancer you will be reborn as a gold majestic 12 headed dragon that can do anything he wants".

How can you say God is real when young children suffer/die from horrific illnesses, surely if God was real, the world would be perfect?

I am not religious, and there is nothing anybody in this thread can say that would even have the slightest chance of converting me.
Muslims don't execute homosexuals ???

Watching stillbirths are among the absolute favorite past time activities for God. I bet homosexuals were also created so God can watch Muslims brutally execute them for great laughs.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 17, 2015, 12:57:01 pm
If God is real, why is there so much hatred, war, disease, and terminal illness in the world? Don't reply with your bullshit "life is a test, if you have cancer you will be reborn as a gold majestic 12 headed dragon that can do anything he wants".

How can you say God is real when young children suffer/die from horrific illnesses, surely if God was real, the world would be perfect?

I am not religious, and there is nothing anybody in this thread can say that would even have the slightest chance of converting me.

Watching stillbirths are among the absolute favorite past time activities for God. I bet homosexuals were also created so God can watch Muslims brutally execute them for great laughs.
Muslims don't execute homosexuals ???

(https://i.gyazo.com/543f32aef17d06d78b16b745870e1db7.png)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 17, 2015, 01:06:25 pm
If God is real, why is there so much hatred, war, disease, and terminal illness in the world? Don't reply with your bullshit "life is a test, if you have cancer you will be reborn as a gold majestic 12 headed dragon that can do anything he wants".

How can you say God is real when young children suffer/die from horrific illnesses, surely if God was real, the world would be perfect?

I am not religious, and there is nothing anybody in this thread can say that would even have the slightest chance of converting me.

Watching stillbirths are among the absolute favorite past time activities for God. I bet homosexuals were also created so God can watch Muslims brutally execute them for great laughs.
Muslims don't execute homosexuals ???

(https://i.gyazo.com/543f32aef17d06d78b16b745870e1db7.png)
WORLDWIDE ??????
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 17, 2015, 01:47:44 pm
If God is real, why is there so much hatred, war, disease, and terminal illness in the world? Don't reply with your bullshit "life is a test, if you have cancer you will be reborn as a gold majestic 12 headed dragon that can do anything he wants".

How can you say God is real when young children suffer/die from horrific illnesses, surely if God was real, the world would be perfect?

I am not religious, and there is nothing anybody in this thread can say that would even have the slightest chance of converting me.

Watching stillbirths are among the absolute favorite past time activities for God. I bet homosexuals were also created so God can watch Muslims brutally execute them for great laughs.
Muslims don't execute homosexuals ???

(https://i.gyazo.com/543f32aef17d06d78b16b745870e1db7.png)
WORLDWIDE ??????

ARE YOU DUMB OR DO I NEED TO POINT AT WHERE THE FUCK YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT AS WELL?

(https://i.gyazo.com/3444b9c456960fcc4b33569326d363fe.png)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Muslim_distribution.png/550px-Muslim_distribution.png)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 17, 2015, 02:02:18 pm
If God is real, why is there so much hatred, war, disease, and terminal illness in the world? Don't reply with your bullshit "life is a test, if you have cancer you will be reborn as a gold majestic 12 headed dragon that can do anything he wants".

How can you say God is real when young children suffer/die from horrific illnesses, surely if God was real, the world would be perfect?

I am not religious, and there is nothing anybody in this thread can say that would even have the slightest chance of converting me.

Watching stillbirths are among the absolute favorite past time activities for God. I bet homosexuals were also created so God can watch Muslims brutally execute them for great laughs.
Muslims don't execute homosexuals ???

(https://i.gyazo.com/543f32aef17d06d78b16b745870e1db7.png)
WORLDWIDE ??????

ARE YOU DUMB OR DO I NEED TO POINT AT WHERE THE FUCK YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT AS WELL?

(https://i.gyazo.com/3444b9c456960fcc4b33569326d363fe.png)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Muslim_distribution.png/550px-Muslim_distribution.png)
Haven't hear of such law, tbh, although Islam dislikes homosexuals, but executing was never part of it. Not in my country atleast
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 17, 2015, 02:40:39 pm
Why should we have to spend our lives praying to god. If it were a test, don't you think god would want us to focus on it, instead of praying to him.

Anyone who says "Time will come, you will see" or "You're going to hell" can jog on. I'd happily punch each and every one of you in the face. If I am a hard worker, kind to people and the best person I can be, I don't give a fuck what god thinks of me. If me not believing means I'm going to hell, god can suck my dick.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/mlyN1HpIzElDa/giphy.gif)

First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in,

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.

In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.


First, You could share your opinion without all this rage and your offensive at least when someone believe in something you don't have to rage at him neither what he believes in

I was not raging or mad when writing that post. If you were to come up to me in real life and say that I'm going to hell or something along those lines simply because I don't believe I would tell you to get fucked and give you a good jab to the face <3 (Not saying you would, however you sound like you're that type of person)

Religion is let down by so many half-wits who follow god. I bet you're one of those people who think everyone who doesn't believe in god is a terrible person.

You should spend time praying for him because he's the one who gave you all the things you're living in, Isn't that enough to pray for him?
Or you're the greedy guy who always want more without giving him something in return.


Why would I waste my "test" time praying to him when I can do that when I'm in heaven. Also, what does he get from me praying to him?

In my opinion you're not close to be called a human.

Your opinion is invalid because you're a fruit loop. And I eat fruit loops for breakfast

(http://i.imgur.com/6gstmSl.png)


ehm in quran it doesn't really tell you to waste your time on praying just to clear things, it never forces you to do anything

If it never forces you to do anything then why do we have to pray to go to heaven? Why do we have to believe to go to heaven?
i am not that type of person you think of,and i wasn't raging at all at you, i was talking about drugs since he believes that all arabs are terrorists, also i don't really think that any unbeliever is a bad guy or something, we actually hate that type of people in our culture (he thinks himself better/smarter than everyone isn't the type to be liked in our country) so someone like drugs is sure to be hated since he is literally swearing, if you got the message in the wrong way then I'm sorry.

i did say it never forces you to "stay praying all day" you have 5 prayers a day the longest day prayer takes maximum of 10 minutes, not like you pray for a whole hour, there are certain times for each prayer, not gonna get into details but i think i cleared my point,so if some people didn't understand my point ill write it clearly for you.
praying doesn't take alot of anyone's time,also not everyone who is religious is a hateful guy etc.
so yeah that's what i have to say


 

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 17, 2015, 03:10:07 pm
Haven't hear of such law, tbh, although Islam dislikes homosexuals, but executing was never part of it. Not in my country atleast

Most people in Israel are Jews, aren't they? That would explain the differences in law.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on September 18, 2015, 04:27:44 am
Haven't hear of such law, tbh, although Islam dislikes homosexuals, but executing was never part of it. Not in my country atleast

Most people in Israel are Jews, aren't they? That would explain the differences in law.

Isreal isn't too friendly towards homosexuals either though, but that's not our debate so carry on
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 18, 2015, 12:32:11 pm
This time I'm not going to quote anyone trying to convincing him that god is real,

But I really would like to know what really gonna makes you believe in god?
What proves which will make you really believe he's in there?

I've gave in my previous posts that one of the "proves god is real", The bible (the Quran) proves things that happening in our days, and our scientists proven them, Which they were mentioned before in the Quran before over 1400 years, So i'd believe that the bible (the Quran) isn't a human words, and it wouldn't be because nobody can know the future for a human, So it must be "Something that has power" Which we calls God.

So the point of all this is just to prove that the bible (The Quran), First it's not a human words  it must be a God, Who knows the future, And i can give proves from the Quran itself that shows things in our days that the scientists discovered and they were mentioned in my bible before.

I'll try to answer with proves this time if you really want to believe, If you just want to discuss or to prove me wrong, I'll not respond to you, So if you REALLY want to believe in god and you just want a few answers, I'll do my best to answer you, Thanks.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 18, 2015, 12:38:55 pm
and our scientists proven them

Source?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 18, 2015, 12:52:38 pm
and our scientists proven them

Source?

I can give you proves and sources but ask yourself first, Do you really want to believe or you just want to talk? because everyone can talk but none won't to believe.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on September 18, 2015, 01:02:48 pm
and our scientists proven them

Source?

https://sunandshield.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/10-prophecies-predicted-in-the-bible-fulfilled-in-history/
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 18, 2015, 01:13:02 pm
and our scientists proven them

Source?

I can give you proves and sources but ask yourself first, Do you really want to believe or you just want to talk? because everyone can talk but none won't to believe.
Yep.this.is.100%.true.

we.are.suppose.to.debate.by.believing.Talking.is.pointless.in.debates.
we.are.suppose.to.believe.that.we.are.right.And.that.the.other.guy.is.right.And.everyone.is.right.

you.allright?

I.BELIEVE.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 18, 2015, 01:23:23 pm
and our scientists proven them

Source?

I can give you proves and sources but ask yourself first, Do you really want to believe or you just want to talk? because everyone can talk but none won't to believe.

So you have no source.
I came to debate board to debate, not to believe.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Knight Night on September 18, 2015, 01:35:37 pm
and our scientists proven them

Source?

I can give you proves and sources but ask yourself first, Do you really want to believe or you just want to talk? because everyone can talk but none won't to believe.
Yep.this.is.100%.true.

we.are.suppose.to.debate.by.believing.Talking.is.pointless.in.debates.
we.are.suppose.to.believe.that.we.are.right.And.that.the.other.guy.is.right.And.everyone.is.right.

you.allright?

I.BELIEVE.

First i didn't mean it like this, What i meant is, You are here just to debate and talk or you are looking for a reason from the debating to believe?
Because i think there are people here just want talk and there don't intend to believe.

And if you're are looking for a solid proves to believe that he's real and start believing in him, Tell me what will makes you believe in him? what proves you need?

For example here in my next quote this guy just want to debate and he's not willing to believe in any matter.

and our scientists proven them

Source?

I can give you proves and sources but ask yourself first, Do you really want to believe or you just want to talk? because everyone can talk but none won't to believe.

So you have no source.
I came to debate board to debate, not to believe.

Ok, I'd respect you, and what you want, so you don't intend to believe, which means i have no more talk with you about this subject, Since you not willing to believe.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on September 18, 2015, 01:42:45 pm
>Goes on debate board
>Debates
>Decides he doesn't want to debate because other people want to debate
>???
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ekke on September 18, 2015, 02:39:43 pm
My opinion is probably the most neutral one in this topic.

Let us start with an example from politics.

What is politics?

Humans arguing what is wrong and what is right.

Why do politics change?

Humans change their mind on what is wrong and what is right.

What can we conclude from this?

There is no right or wrong.
If the amount of people(1st group) supporting one idea exceeds the amount of people(2nd group) saying the idea is wrong, the 1st group becomes automatically "right". (democratic example).

There are tons and tons of opinions, there is no way to say who is right or wrong.

And by that logic, the chances of that god exists are exactly the same as the chances that god does not.
We don't know it. How could we, we are just humans.

Although, religion is somewhat else.

I watched the video that King125 posted before and there it mentioned that there have been thousands of religions in world.
So what are the chances that muslims got it right? the jews got it right? the ancient Estonians got it right?
Maybe there is god somewhere. He could be on Earth. He could be behind a PS2 controller controlling the world.

So what are the chances that some religion in the world got it right, exactly right - who is the god, where is the god, where is the heaven, is there even a heaven? or second life? how can you get there? how does god act? etc, etc, etc.

Exactly the same as there is a god no one has discovered or knows about, we are not aware of him at all, we don't know how he acts, we don't know what we should do to get his attention, do we even get his attention? is he human? maybe he is the whole earth (as ancient Estonians believed that everything has a soul)?

And, Drugs really did give a perfect example. All of the religions have been made up by someone. Anyone could make a religion this moment and you couldn't tell him that he is not right. Maybe Drugs is god.

There simply is no right or wrong in this debate,

Thank you.

TL;DR: WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT DRUGS IS GOD? EXACTLY THE SAME AS GOD IS NOT REAL, JEWS GOT IT RIGHT, MUSLIMS GOT IT RIGHT, ANY RELIGION IN THE WORLD GOT IT RIGHT.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 18, 2015, 02:52:11 pm
Humans arguing what is wrong and what is right.

That's ethics.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ekke on September 18, 2015, 05:14:44 pm
Humans arguing what is wrong and what is right.

That's ethics.
That in no way changes my point though.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 18, 2015, 05:34:31 pm
Humans arguing what is wrong and what is right.

That's ethics.
That in no way changes my point though.

Wrong information in a long post that early doesn't really encourage people to read it, making your ''point'' suddenly pointless. If that was a beginning paragraph of an essay and you'd hand it to my literature teacher I had in highschool, you'd find your text in the nearest thrash can. I'm not even kidding.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Chazz on September 18, 2015, 11:16:12 pm
What can we conclude from this?

There is no right or wrong.
HUE my sides
k remove every infraction from every member on this forums now bls.

Also this just in: 1+1=3 isn't right or wrong
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fate on September 19, 2015, 12:38:45 am
What can we conclude from this?

There is no right or wrong.

There is only soup!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Chazz on September 19, 2015, 12:56:42 am
What can we conclude from this?

There is no right or wrong.

There is only soup!

im sorry ill stop

edit soup (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5hALDdieTE)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 19, 2015, 11:45:57 am
Random video time?


im sorry ill stop
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ekke on September 20, 2015, 11:04:36 am
Humans arguing what is wrong and what is right.

That's ethics.
That in no way changes my point though.

Wrong information in a long post that early doesn't really encourage people to read it, making your ''point'' suddenly pointless. If that was a beginning paragraph of an essay and you'd hand it to my literature teacher I had in highschool, you'd find your text in the nearest thrash can. I'm not even kidding.
You can call it ethics, but it is also a part of politics. Anyways, is this a debate about religion or about how your literature teacher acts? Stay on topic, I could remove half of my post and it wouldn't change my point. You should actually try to understand the point not pick on "mistakes" that I can easily find an argument against.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on September 22, 2015, 09:16:00 am
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 22, 2015, 09:33:31 am
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.

Guess i have to convert to islam now
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 22, 2015, 10:07:33 am
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 22, 2015, 10:11:39 am
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 22, 2015, 11:48:35 am
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?


Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
You got anything to back that statement up?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 22, 2015, 12:20:20 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 22, 2015, 12:26:37 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Keiskelar on September 22, 2015, 12:53:25 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

(http://www.troll.me/images/lost/im-so-lost-im-lost.jpg)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 22, 2015, 01:05:59 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

Yeah, but that's because i converted to islam and was wearing a full burka so there was no way you could see me  ::)
Try to shout avenus next time you die to see if i died to see if mario died to see if range it died and came to heaven!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 22, 2015, 01:22:20 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

Yeah, but that's because i converted to islam and was wearing a full burka so there was no way you could see me  ::)
Try to shout avenus next time you die to see if i died to see if mario died to see if range it died and came to heaven!
That would be difficult because I'm christian now so according to rang it I can't go to heaven to see if you are in heaven after dying wearing a burka to see if mario died and went to heaven to see if rang it did and went to heaven
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 22, 2015, 01:27:23 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

Yeah, but that's because i converted to islam and was wearing a full burka so there was no way you could see me  ::)
Try to shout avenus next time you die to see if i died to see if mario died to see if range it died and came to heaven!
That would be difficult because I'm christian now so according to rang it I can't go to heaven to see if you are in heaven after dying wearing a burka to see if mario died and went to heaven to see if rang it did and went to heaven
To point something out, you don't instantly go to hell/heaven lol, everyone is judged together therefore none can know if anyone else including himself is going either to hell or heaven. @Judgement day.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 22, 2015, 01:28:46 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

Yeah, but that's because i converted to islam and was wearing a full burka so there was no way you could see me  ::)
Try to shout avenus next time you die to see if i died to see if mario died to see if range it died and came to heaven!
That would be difficult because I'm christian now so according to rang it I can't go to heaven to see if you are in heaven after dying wearing a burka to see if mario died and went to heaven to see if rang it did and went to heaven
To point something out, you don't instantly go to hell/heaven lol, everyone is judged together therefore none can know if anyone else including himself is going either to hell or heaven. @Judgement day.

So the all the billions that died paste thousand years are waiting for judgement day :( ?
Are they in hell now then til judgement day come?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 22, 2015, 01:32:31 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

Yeah, but that's because i converted to islam and was wearing a full burka so there was no way you could see me  ::)
Try to shout avenus next time you die to see if i died to see if mario died to see if range it died and came to heaven!
That would be difficult because I'm christian now so according to rang it I can't go to heaven to see if you are in heaven after dying wearing a burka to see if mario died and went to heaven to see if rang it did and went to heaven
To point something out, you don't instantly go to hell/heaven lol, everyone is judged together therefore none can know if anyone else including himself is going either to hell or heaven. @Judgement day.

So the all the billions that died paste thousand years are waiting for judgement day :( ?
Are they in hell now then til judgement day come?
Everyone is waiting yeah, but you won't feel this whole thingy it so. There are some special people that mentioned that done something really really unique are ''straight to heaven''. So those are not waiting, for example, prophets, Atheist people that didn't get to know religion or God and none taught them.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 22, 2015, 01:34:02 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

Yeah, but that's because i converted to islam and was wearing a full burka so there was no way you could see me  ::)
Try to shout avenus next time you die to see if i died to see if mario died to see if range it died and came to heaven!
That would be difficult because I'm christian now so according to rang it I can't go to heaven to see if you are in heaven after dying wearing a burka to see if mario died and went to heaven to see if rang it did and went to heaven
To point something out, you don't instantly go to hell/heaven lol, everyone is judged together therefore none can know if anyone else including himself is going either to hell or heaven. @Judgement day.

So the all the billions that died paste thousand years are waiting for judgement day :( ?
Are they in hell now then til judgement day come?
Everyone is waiting yeah, but you won't feel this whole thingy it so. There are some special people that mentioned that done something really really unique are ''straight to heaven''. So those are not waiting, for example, prophets, Atheist people that didn't get to know religion or God and none taught them.

That's what he said tho. Once a non believer starts believing he goes straight to heaven.
You just said the same :D
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 22, 2015, 01:35:02 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

Yeah, but that's because i converted to islam and was wearing a full burka so there was no way you could see me  ::)
Try to shout avenus next time you die to see if i died to see if mario died to see if range it died and came to heaven!
That would be difficult because I'm christian now so according to rang it I can't go to heaven to see if you are in heaven after dying wearing a burka to see if mario died and went to heaven to see if rang it did and went to heaven
To point something out, you don't instantly go to hell/heaven lol, everyone is judged together therefore none can know if anyone else including himself is going either to hell or heaven. @Judgement day.

So the all the billions that died paste thousand years are waiting for judgement day :( ?
Are they in hell now then til judgement day come?
Everyone is waiting yeah, but you won't feel this whole thingy it so. There are some special people that mentioned that done something really really unique are ''straight to heaven''. So those are not waiting, for example, prophets, Atheist people that didn't get to know religion or God and none taught them.

That's what he said tho. Once a non believer starts believing he goes straight to heaven.
You just said the same :D
I gave an example on the answer of ur question lol.
And no, that's not what he said. He said if a non believer becomes a believer. Even wat ???
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on September 22, 2015, 02:18:09 pm
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
how do you know? Did you die and see it for yourself? No.

How do you know? Did you die to see if he died to see him in heaven? :D No.
what if he did? Did u die to see if mario died to see if rang it died and came to heaven?

What if i did? What if i died to see if mario died to see if rang it died to see if he came to heaven?
nope i died once and went to heaven and i didnt see you in heaven to see if mario died and was in heaven to see if rang it died and was in heaven

Yeah, but that's because i converted to islam and was wearing a full burka so there was no way you could see me  ::)
Try to shout avenus next time you die to see if i died to see if mario died to see if range it died and came to heaven!
That would be difficult because I'm christian now so according to rang it I can't go to heaven to see if you are in heaven after dying wearing a burka to see if mario died and went to heaven to see if rang it did and went to heaven
To point something out, you don't instantly go to hell/heaven lol, everyone is judged together therefore none can know if anyone else including himself is going either to hell or heaven. @Judgement day.

So the all the billions that died paste thousand years are waiting for judgement day :( ?
Are they in hell now then til judgement day come?
Everyone is waiting yeah, but you won't feel this whole thingy it so. There are some special people that mentioned that done something really really unique are ''straight to heaven''. So those are not waiting, for example, prophets, Atheist people that didn't get to know religion or God and none taught them.

That's what he said tho. Once a non believer starts believing he goes straight to heaven.
You just said the same :D
I gave an example on the answer of ur question lol.
And no, that's not what he said. He said if a non believer becomes a believer. Even wat ???

Soo if you are a non believer and become a believer don't you "start believing then?". Is this some mindgames? Wordfeud?

Once a non believer starts believing he goes straight to heaven. (what i said)
Once non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven. (what he said)
It's the exact same thing? He just didnt express himself real.

You gave an example to what i said, and that example is the same thing as this^
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on September 22, 2015, 02:20:42 pm
I said if a non believer DIDN'T GET TO KNOW GOD OR RELIGION. In shortcut, none taught him and he could not decide weather choose either paths..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Fate on September 23, 2015, 12:35:40 am
(http://i.imgur.com/L8TyA5N.jpg)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on September 23, 2015, 01:09:10 am
http://i.imgur.com/L8TyA5N.jpg
I refuse to believe that we're the only ones out there.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 23, 2015, 01:23:46 am
http://i.imgur.com/L8TyA5N.jpg
I refuse to believe that we're the only ones out there.
Indeed.there.is.life.outside.of.your.computer.suryrtyuo :-[
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on September 23, 2015, 08:47:07 am
(http://i.imgur.com/L8TyA5N.jpg)


Pictures like these always strike me with awe(ofcourse excluding the last picture :P), we're literally just a spec of dust out there and people want us to believe that our lives actually matter. What I do barely affects what's happening here on earth.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on September 28, 2015, 02:43:11 pm
Conclusion: turn into muslim or your getting 360 noscoped :)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 28, 2015, 02:46:11 pm
Conclusion: turn into muslim or your getting 360 noscoped :)

Come back after you have grown a pair.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on September 28, 2015, 03:45:09 pm
Conclusion: turn into muslim or your getting 360 noscoped :)
I'd rather get noscoped
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 28, 2015, 05:02:59 pm
geez every single one of you is just babbeling around for no reason, there is a problem in humans that everyone thinks that he is correct,so there is no reason to debate unless you throw away your meaningless bad habit of stupidity that's why we can never come to a good answer that satisfy all of us no matter how everyone "here" tried
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nany499 on September 28, 2015, 05:25:33 pm
geez every single one of you is just babbeling around for no reason, there is a problem in humans that everyone thinks that he is correct,so there is no reason to debate unless you throw away your meaningless bad habit of stupidity that's why we can never come to a good answer that satisfy all of us no matter how everyone "here" tried

so we are incorrect and we should fix our incorrect ways because you, rockmanexe, are the correct one telling us about your correct religion?

geez every single one of you is just babbeling around for no reason, there is a problem in humans that everyone thinks that he is correct
hmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on September 28, 2015, 07:51:36 pm
Conclusion: turn into muslim or your getting 360 noscoped :)

you're*





a fgt :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 28, 2015, 08:22:06 pm
geez every single one of you is just babbeling around for no reason, there is a problem in humans that everyone thinks that he is correct,so there is no reason to debate unless you throw away your meaningless bad habit of stupidity that's why we can never come to a good answer that satisfy all of us no matter how everyone "here" tried

so we are incorrect and we should fix our incorrect ways because you, rockmanexe, are the correct one telling us about your correct religion?

geez every single one of you is just babbeling around for no reason, there is a problem in humans that everyone thinks that he is correct
hmmmmmmmm
nope don't get the idea i was merely saying that truth,and pulling out myself of this dead-end topic.
the truth i was referring for is that humans can never agree to each other 100%,since everyone thinks that he is correct that's  all
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 29, 2015, 06:14:29 am
And that, son, is the exact reason why people should practice debating skills, unless you want to become somebody's bitch, agreeing to everything they tell you.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 29, 2015, 11:23:20 am
And that, son, is the exact reason why people should practice debating skills, unless you want to become somebody's bitch, agreeing to everything they tell you.
yup exactly and my experience tells me that debating here is just a waste of time nothing else,I'm sure by now that everyone noticed what is happening with this topic,and how it's gonna end.
here is a good fact for everyone: what are we debating? religion
why are we debating this? technical answer would be so you can convince and show your religion to other players.
but the real answer is that it was made to see who is "brainwashed" and who's not so you then know who to ignore and who to hate,and above of all to kill time that for some dumb reason everyone wants to do the same.
everyone here is carefree and "happy-go-lucky" while im sure as **** that they at least have something USEFUL to do,if not in the real life then in Emps, at least shows that you actually work hard.
seriously you are whining about players quitting when WE are ONE of the reasons of them quitting,oh I'm sure there are 3 or even more reasons to quit the game:-
1- bored
2- time,school--life problems
3- the "Nerdy"COMMUNITY
ill continue everything later
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 29, 2015, 12:58:55 pm
they.make.quite.large.and.succesful.religion.debates.all.the.time.
they.are.fun.to.watch.on.youtube.because.both.parties.know.how.to.debate.

you.can.make.debates.just.l2debate
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 29, 2015, 02:50:28 pm
while im sure as **** that they at least have something USEFUL to do,if not in the real life then in Emps, at least shows that you actually work hard.

Says the nine-year-old who seems to be completely unaware of the fact that over half of the forums community go to university or work. It's not like posting to this thread takes freaking hours, as you seem to think. While taking a buss to home or while on a break at work, why not take a minute or two to check the forums and post? If you are at the point that school becomes your whole life, you need to reconsider your life choices.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 29, 2015, 03:46:55 pm
while im sure as **** that they at least have something USEFUL to do,if not in the real life then in Emps, at least shows that you actually work hard.

Says the nine-year-old who seems to be completely unaware of the fact that over half of the forums community go to university or work. It's not like posting to this thread takes freaking hours, as you seem to think. While taking a buss to home or while on a break at work, why not take a minute or two to check the forums and post? If you are at the point that school becomes your whole life, you need to reconsider your life choices.
oh really my bad then if i offended anyone with that,but don't forget what i said is actually true to a some degree.
Also i don't have to consider my life choices since i came up with a plan that i polished frequently,until i was satisfied,my goals in life aren't small at all which makes them "dreams" but i was granted with both talent and brain,that being said this is where I'm going to stop debating Religion
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on September 29, 2015, 05:09:53 pm
while im sure as **** that they at least have something USEFUL to do,if not in the real life then in Emps, at least shows that you actually work hard.

Says the nine-year-old who seems to be completely unaware of the fact that over half of the forums community go to university or work. It's not like posting to this thread takes freaking hours, as you seem to think. While taking a buss to home or while on a break at work, why not take a minute or two to check the forums and post? If you are at the point that school becomes your whole life, you need to reconsider your life choices.
oh really my bad then if i offended anyone with that,but don't forget what i said is actually true to a some degree.
Also i don't have to consider my life choices since i came up with a plan that i polished frequently,until i was satisfied,my goals in life aren't small at all which makes them "dreams" but i was granted with both talent and brain,that being said this is where I'm going to stop debating Religion

If your ''life'' includes school 24/7, you can't call it a life. That's my point. And see, you are posting shit here just like the rest of use here, despite your ''great goals''.

Practice what you preach.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 29, 2015, 08:46:16 pm
Implies.that.our.lives.arent.related.to.internet.
We.spend.hours.and.hours.behind.computers.every.day.stop.saying.shit.like.that.

Im.sorry.that.your.turbanking.wifi.sucks.or.whatever.and.you.cant.access.internet.that.often.

something.useful.to.do.in.real.life...What.if.my.life.is.behind.a.computer?
what.if.what.I.do.behind.a.computer.is.useful?

Why.would.I.work.hard?Maybe.I.can.work.however.the.fuck.I.want.and.maybe.not.work.at.all?Does.it.concern.you.or.your.god?
Does.it.have.anything.to.do.with.religion?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on September 29, 2015, 09:18:51 pm
while im sure as **** that they at least have something USEFUL to do,if not in the real life then in Emps, at least shows that you actually work hard.

Says the nine-year-old who seems to be completely unaware of the fact that over half of the forums community go to university or work. It's not like posting to this thread takes freaking hours, as you seem to think. While taking a buss to home or while on a break at work, why not take a minute or two to check the forums and post? If you are at the point that school becomes your whole life, you need to reconsider your life choices.
oh really my bad then if i offended anyone with that,but don't forget what i said is actually true to a some degree.
Also i don't have to consider my life choices since i came up with a plan that i polished frequently,until i was satisfied,my goals in life aren't small at all which makes them "dreams" but i was granted with both talent and brain,that being said this is where I'm going to stop debating Religion

If your ''life'' includes school 24/7, you can't call it a life. That's my point. And see, you are posting shit here just like the rest of use here, despite your ''great goals''.

Practice what you preach.
ah i didn't get your point,nah not really I'm quite lazy with school stuff,but yeah you get it and I'm sure
thanks for everything if you did anything anyways,just nvm that im going to stop posting here since it  seems that there isn't any any development here just like it ever started,

Implies.that.our.lives.arent.related.to.internet.
We.spend.hours.and.hours.behind.computers.every.day.stop.saying.shit.like.that.

Im.sorry.that.your.turbanking.wifi.sucks.or.whatever.and.you.cant.access.internet.that.often.

something.useful.to.do.in.real.life...What.if.my.life.is.behind.a.computer?
what.if.what.I.do.behind.a.computer.is.useful?

Why.would.I.work.hard?Maybe.I.can.work.however.the.fuck.I.want.and.maybe.not.work.at.all?Does.it.concern.you.or.your.god?
Does.it.have.anything.to.do.with.religion?
Not really i was stating facts nothing less or more, I don't even mind if you don't treasure time as much as me

and YES actually in qurran it urges for working hard,and qurran treasures time and show how important time would be, "before you start regretting"
that being said I'm done with this topic so yeah
saraba  ahou domo
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on September 29, 2015, 09:45:54 pm
saraba  ahou domo

Seriously? >_> lol
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on September 29, 2015, 09:54:43 pm
Quote
I'm quite lazy with school stuff

Quote
YES actually in qurran it urges for working hard,and qurran treasures time and show how important time would be, "before you start regretting"

Stop.being.lazy.with.school.stuff.Quaran.encourages.you.to.do.better
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on October 02, 2015, 03:55:00 pm

Relevant
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on October 05, 2015, 08:23:05 pm
Ill say it for the 2nd and last time:
Once a non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Deandam7 on October 05, 2015, 08:23:57 pm
Ill say it for the 2nd and last time:
Once a non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.

proof or gtfo
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on October 05, 2015, 08:25:07 pm
Ill say it for the 2nd and last time:
Once a non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
Can you just leave this topic please?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on October 05, 2015, 08:41:29 pm
Ill say it for the 2nd and last time:
Once a non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.
If.youre.in.heaven.then.I.dont.want.to.go.there
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: 3st Ranger X on October 05, 2015, 08:50:44 pm
As i havent posted on this topic before, then i will now. I dont really believe in god, but i do think there's some higher power or something, but sure as hell not like it's said in Bible/Quaran.

Ill say it for the 2nd and last time:
Once a non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.

Doesnt matter if you're a muslim, Christian or atheist, you'll end up 6 feet under ground in a wooden coffin, and that's it. That's the end.
And like Karel said, then (if there is hell/heaven, wich i'm pretty sure there isnt), then i'd rather go to hell than be in heaven with you.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on October 05, 2015, 09:23:09 pm
As i havent posted on this topic before, then i will now. I dont really believe in god, but i do think there's some higher power or something, but sure as hell not like it's said in Bible/Quaran.

Ill say it for the 2nd and last time:
Once a non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.

Doesnt matter if you're a muslim, Christian or atheist, you'll end up 6 feet under ground in a wooden coffin, and that's it. That's the end.
And like Karel said, then (if there is hell/heaven, wich i'm pretty sure there isnt), then i'd rather go to hell than be in heaven with you.

What about those who chose to get burned to ashes?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on October 06, 2015, 04:56:04 am
As i havent posted on this topic before, then i will now. I dont really believe in god, but i do think there's some higher power or something, but sure as hell not like it's said in Bible/Quaran.

Ill say it for the 2nd and last time:
Once a non believer turns muslim, straight to heaven.

Doesnt matter if you're a muslim, Christian or atheist, you'll end up 6 feet under ground in a wooden coffin, and that's it. That's the end.
And like Karel said, then (if there is hell/heaven, wich i'm pretty sure there isnt), then i'd rather go to hell than be in heaven with you.

What about those who chose to get burned to ashes?
This is a traditional thing in some nations which when someone dies they burn him/her. Gather his burnt ashes and put them in a bottle or Idk, but the point is keeping his "part" (ashes) near and not in a graveyard.

* I have no idea what nation(s) does/do this but I know that shit from TV and News sites.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ekke on October 06, 2015, 03:58:45 pm
What if this is heaven
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on October 06, 2015, 04:01:22 pm
What if this is heaven

(http://assets-s3.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/66358-jaden-smith-if-everyone-dropped-out-of-school-society-would-be-more-intelligent/promo/1379356443_jaden-smith-441.jpg)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Zeepleeuw on October 06, 2015, 04:03:42 pm
What if this is heaven
And what if sometimes when we hear someone random call our name but see no one, it's just the persons who cared about you in your life shouting your name because you are in a coma and you heard them. Now wouldn't that be fucked up.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on October 06, 2015, 04:25:55 pm
What if this is heaven
And what if sometimes when we hear someone random call our name but see no one, it's just the persons who cared about you in your life shouting your name because you are in a coma and you heard them. Now wouldn't that be fucked up.


It has been reported that some victims of torture, during the act, would retreat into a fantasy world from which they could not wake up. In this catatonic state, the victim lived in a world just like their normal one, except they weren’t being tortured. The only way that they realized they needed to WAKE UP was a note they found in their fantasy world. It would tell them about their condition, and tell them to WAKE UP. Even then, it would often take months until they were ready to discard their fantasy world and PLEASE WAKE UP.





this text kinda creeped me out the first time i read it ;_;
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on October 06, 2015, 05:04:32 pm
Oh, so it's like the final episode of season eight of Doctor Who with those facehugger crab things that make you dream. Interesting.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ameer on October 16, 2015, 08:42:59 pm
God --> (http://i.imgur.com/bSyAKS5.jpg)



Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Icecloud on October 16, 2015, 09:34:15 pm
God --> (http://i.imgur.com/bSyAKS5.jpg)

god wouldn't release 4 mediocre albums.

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on October 17, 2015, 01:01:19 pm
God --> (http://i.imgur.com/bSyAKS5.jpg)




Eminem is not a fucking God. He is an abomination.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on October 18, 2015, 08:44:24 am
1. In 23 Years, Muslims Went from Being Powerless to Control the World.

When Islam started in Mecca, it was the prophet Mohammed by himself. A one man religion. He was exposed to punishments and oppression. The people who first entered Islam were weak and also were oppressed and tortured by the pagans of Mecca (their relatives). Forward 23 years later to see the transformation of these uneducated powerless individuals to the most powerful ones and to control the world.

The Arabs at the time of the prophet peace be upon him (6th century) were tribes and clans fighting each other. The Romans and the Persians were vast powerful empires. Forward 23 years later to see how some powerless individuals were able climb the mountain of world power to take over the Persian empire and the Roman empire and introduce new world order.

Not only did this transformation achieve miraculousness in its happenings but it’s also marvelous in its timing and its duration.

Had it not been to Islam, the world would be different (much worse). The heroes of Islam would not have been heroes but would have been forgotten.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Suryoyo K0 on October 18, 2015, 09:00:57 am
1. In 23 Years, Muslims Went from Being Powerless to Control the World.

When Islam started in Mecca, it was the prophet Mohammed by himself. A one man religion. He was exposed to punishments and oppression. The people who first entered Islam were weak and also were oppressed and tortured by the pagans of Mecca (their relatives). Forward 23 years later to see the transformation of these uneducated powerless individuals to the most powerful ones and to control the world.

The Arabs at the time of the prophet peace be upon him (6th century) were tribes and clans fighting each other. The Romans and the Persians were vast powerful empires. Forward 23 years later to see how some powerless individuals were able climb the mountain of world power to take over the Persian empire and the Roman empire and introduce new world order.

Not only did this transformation achieve miraculousness in its happenings but it’s also marvelous in its timing and its duration.

Had it not been to Islam, the world would be different (much worse). The heroes of Islam would not have been heroes but would have been forgotten.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-right-religion-with-the-directories-to-believe-it


http://i.imgur.com/q4QiXzF.png

3 followers woohooo!!!


dont come here with some bs posts
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on October 18, 2015, 09:11:07 am
1. In 23 Years, Muslims Went from Being Powerless to Control the World.

When Islam started in Mecca, it was the prophet Mohammed by himself. A one man religion. He was exposed to punishments and oppression. The people who first entered Islam were weak and also were oppressed and tortured by the pagans of Mecca (their relatives). Forward 23 years later to see the transformation of these uneducated powerless individuals to the most powerful ones and to control the world.

The Arabs at the time of the prophet peace be upon him (6th century) were tribes and clans fighting each other. The Romans and the Persians were vast powerful empires. Forward 23 years later to see how some powerless individuals were able climb the mountain of world power to take over the Persian empire and the Roman empire and introduce new world order.

Not only did this transformation achieve miraculousness in its happenings but it’s also marvelous in its timing and its duration.

Had it not been to Islam, the world would be different (much worse). The heroes of Islam would not have been heroes but would have been forgotten.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-right-religion-with-the-directories-to-believe-it


http://i.imgur.com/q4QiXzF.png

3 followers woohooo!!!


dont come here with some bs posts
It isnt bs, its the truth.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: L2avoidban on October 18, 2015, 09:32:03 am
For people saying that if God exists then why are there good and believing people all around the world suffering?

here is something for you
The best of us don't suffer, the suffering makes the best of us.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on October 18, 2015, 10:04:10 am
For people saying that if God exists then why are there good and believing people all around the world suffering?

here is something for you
The best of us don't suffer, the suffering makes the best of us.

So you're saying children getting raped and murdered is a good thing?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: 3st Ranger X on October 18, 2015, 11:53:43 am
1. In 23 Years, Muslims Went from Being Powerless to Control the World.

When Islam started in Mecca, it was the prophet Mohammed by himself. A one man religion. He was exposed to punishments and oppression. The people who first entered Islam were weak and also were oppressed and tortured by the pagans of Mecca (their relatives). Forward 23 years later to see the transformation of these uneducated powerless individuals to the most powerful ones and to control the world.

The Arabs at the time of the prophet peace be upon him (6th century) were tribes and clans fighting each other. The Romans and the Persians were vast powerful empires. Forward 23 years later to see how some powerless individuals were able climb the mountain of world power to take over the Persian empire and the Roman empire and introduce new world order.

Not only did this transformation achieve miraculousness in its happenings but it’s also marvelous in its timing and its duration.

Had it not been to Islam, the world would be different (much worse). The heroes of Islam would not have been heroes but would have been forgotten.

Congratulations, you just went full retard. Never go full retard
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on October 18, 2015, 11:56:11 am
For people saying that if God exists then why are there good and believing people all around the world suffering?

here is something for you
The best of us don't suffer, the suffering makes the best of us.
This.video.is.the.fakest.shit.ever.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Slothknows on October 18, 2015, 01:16:02 pm
Soo yeah for those who keep that god is a fairy tale and there's no need to prove his non-existence,well if you want to look at it from this side then no actually there are way more proofs of his existence than his non-existence.
you will go saying that the suffering in the world is one huge proof of his non-existence but actually no. those who suffer and yet still pray are the most to be rewarded.

if you go saying if god knows everything about destiny, then why can't he just move on and make the judgement day already, well the answer is quite easy if you think of it. it's rather unfair  when you actually go to hell while knowing that you didn't do anything.while if you are alive and keep doing sins and mistakes,you know you did that
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on October 18, 2015, 01:29:55 pm
Soo yeah for those who keep that god is a fairy tale and there's no need to prove his non-existence,well if you want to look at it from this side then no actually there are way more proofs of his existence than his non-existence.
you will go saying that the suffering in the world is one huge proof of his non-existence but actually no. those who suffer and yet still pray are the most to be rewarded.

if you go saying if god knows everything about destiny, then why can't he just move on and make the judgement day already, well the answer is quite easy if you think of it. it's rather unfair  when you actually go to hell while knowing that you didn't do anything.while if you are alive and keep doing sins and mistakes,you know you did that
I.want.whatever.youve.been.smoking
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on October 20, 2015, 02:10:54 pm
Im loving the hate boys keep it going!
Allahu akbar.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Uliarr on October 20, 2015, 02:28:03 pm
Im loving the hate boys keep it going!
Allahu akbar.
I hate you.
Allauh akbar
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on October 21, 2015, 12:48:57 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on October 21, 2015, 01:59:25 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: 3st Ranger X on October 21, 2015, 02:27:01 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2530651.jpg)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on October 21, 2015, 04:34:39 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2530651.jpg)
Have you even read the topic name?

Dumbass.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: 3st Ranger X on October 21, 2015, 05:19:25 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2530651.jpg)
Have you even read the topic name?

Dumbass.
Every post he makes basically praises Allah. We get it, he wants to go to heaven or wherever the fuck you go. And saying Allah everywhere aint debate. So please, shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on October 21, 2015, 05:53:14 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2530651.jpg)
Have you even read the topic name?

Dumbass.
Every post he makes basically praises Allah. We get it, he wants to go to heaven or wherever the fuck you go. And saying Allah everywhere aint debate. So please, shut the fuck up.
DID U EVEN TRANSLATE WHAT HE SAID?

Have some respect at least, if not for religion, for yourself. Nobody is humiliating you here, no need for being offensive toward a religion. tl;dr "Muslim shit". That's not something nice to say.

Would you remain silent if I said "Estonian shit"? That's just, meh.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on October 22, 2015, 10:15:55 am
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2530651.jpg)
Have you even read the topic name?

Dumbass.
Every post he makes basically praises Allah. We get it, he wants to go to heaven or wherever the fuck you go. And saying Allah everywhere aint debate. So please, shut the fuck up.
DID U EVEN TRANSLATE WHAT HE SAID?

Have some respect at least, if not for religion, for yourself. Nobody is humiliating you here, no need for being offensive toward a religion. tl;dr "Muslim shit". That's not something nice to say.

Would you remain silent if I said "Estonian shit"? That's just, meh.
Yeah so shut up you fat nub. Nice chubby belly kiddo.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on October 22, 2015, 12:23:37 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2530651.jpg)
Have you even read the topic name?

Dumbass.
Every post he makes basically praises Allah. We get it, he wants to go to heaven or wherever the fuck you go. And saying Allah everywhere aint debate. So please, shut the fuck up.
DID U EVEN TRANSLATE WHAT HE SAID?

Have some respect at least, if not for religion, for yourself. Nobody is humiliating you here, no need for being offensive toward a religion. tl;dr "Muslim shit". That's not something nice to say.

Would you remain silent if I said "Estonian shit"? That's just, meh.
Yeah so shut up you fat nub. Nice chubby belly kiddo.

You have sinned. Go to hell.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on October 23, 2015, 12:29:11 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2530651.jpg)
Have you even read the topic name?

Dumbass.
Every post he makes basically praises Allah. We get it, he wants to go to heaven or wherever the fuck you go. And saying Allah everywhere aint debate. So please, shut the fuck up.
DID U EVEN TRANSLATE WHAT HE SAID?

Have some respect at least, if not for religion, for yourself. Nobody is humiliating you here, no need for being offensive toward a religion. tl;dr "Muslim shit". That's not something nice to say.

Would you remain silent if I said "Estonian shit"? That's just, meh.
Yeah so shut up you fat nub. Nice chubby belly kiddo.

You have sinned. Go to hell.
Shut up fat nub go outside for once, just to remind you: the sky is blue. Idiet :kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on October 23, 2015, 01:07:24 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2530651.jpg)
Have you even read the topic name?

Dumbass.
Every post he makes basically praises Allah. We get it, he wants to go to heaven or wherever the fuck you go. And saying Allah everywhere aint debate. So please, shut the fuck up.
DID U EVEN TRANSLATE WHAT HE SAID?

Have some respect at least, if not for religion, for yourself. Nobody is humiliating you here, no need for being offensive toward a religion. tl;dr "Muslim shit". That's not something nice to say.

Would you remain silent if I said "Estonian shit"? That's just, meh.
Yeah so shut up you fat nub. Nice chubby belly kiddo.

You have sinned. Go to hell.
Shut up fat nub go outside for once, just to remind you: the sky is blue. Idiet :kappa:

One day you will realize how pathetic you sound and how worthless your whole life has been.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Queen Martin on October 23, 2015, 02:27:20 pm
Hiii :)  I saw the new generation of mormons today, they were recently cooked up in some lab :O I wonder if each generation has its own model name, like Audi a7 etc :p
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on October 23, 2015, 02:31:06 pm
Hiii :)  I saw the new generation of mormons today, they were recently cooked up in some lab :O I wonder if each generation has its own model name, like Audi a7 etc :p

That generation has to be Audi r8 if the story seems to be true ;)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Avenus on October 23, 2015, 02:32:47 pm
Inshallah

(http://i.imgur.com/F0ogWUN.jpg)
In shaa Allah*
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2530651.jpg)
Have you even read the topic name?

Dumbass.
Every post he makes basically praises Allah. We get it, he wants to go to heaven or wherever the fuck you go. And saying Allah everywhere aint debate. So please, shut the fuck up.
DID U EVEN TRANSLATE WHAT HE SAID?

Have some respect at least, if not for religion, for yourself. Nobody is humiliating you here, no need for being offensive toward a religion. tl;dr "Muslim shit". That's not something nice to say.

Would you remain silent if I said "Estonian shit"? That's just, meh.
Yeah so shut up you fat nub. Nice chubby belly kiddo.

You have sinned. Go to hell.
Shut up fat nub go outside for once, just to remind you: the sky is blue. Idiet :kappa:

Ohhhhhhh so we are drawing comparisons now?

Your heart is red, your blood is red. Satan and hell is red.
You = Satanist???
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on October 23, 2015, 02:40:11 pm
Ohhhhhhh so we are drawing comparisons now?

Your heart is red, your blood is red. Satan and hell is red.
You = Satanist???

ALL HAIL THE ALL MIGHTY STAN (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/southpark/images/a/a7/StanMarsh.png/revision/latest?cb=20150211181652)!!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on October 23, 2015, 10:23:28 pm
Goes.outside.at.night-sky.is.black.
what.the.fuck.you.cant.trust.anyone.thesedays
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on October 31, 2015, 07:50:34 am
Goes.outside.at.night-sky.is.black.
what.the.fuck.you.cant.trust.anyone.thesedays
<weird thought>

When youre dreaming and you die in a dream, you either wake up and well the dream ends there.
If afterlife were to be real wouldnt our brains be able to recreate an afterlife situation in a dream automatically?

as I said its just a thought...But our brains can come up with crazy shit while dreaming but not something as common as afterlife?
Or does that happen to some religious people? Do you actually experience afterlife in a dream where you have just died?

Idkidk.
Actually curious ::)

I couldnt and wouldnt start an argument about god over this thought but I still find it somewhat of an appealing question to me.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on November 01, 2015, 09:40:05 am
You know what they say, once you go black....
You're a single mother!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on November 01, 2015, 09:42:01 am
You know what they say, once you go black....
You're a single mother!
You know what they say
once you go retard youre a retard you fucking retard
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on November 08, 2015, 10:45:49 am
Goes.outside.at.night-sky.is.black.
what.the.fuck.you.cant.trust.anyone.thesedays
<weird thought>

When youre dreaming and you die in a dream, you either wake up and well the dream ends there.
If afterlife were to be real wouldnt our brains be able to recreate an afterlife situation in a dream automatically?

as I said its just a thought...But our brains can come up with crazy shit while dreaming but not something as common as afterlife?
Or does that happen to some religious people? Do you actually experience afterlife in a dream where you have just died?

Idkidk.
Actually curious ::)

I couldnt and wouldnt start an argument about god over this thought but I still find it somewhat of an appealing question to me.
it happened a lot to me actually, it's not like I experience heaven or hell though, but happened to me once were everything was quite blurry white, i dunno how to express the dream itself though it's out of the ordinary. there is no scientific explanation for dreams or how we get them, so yeah just to tell you IT'S VERY SCARY AND EXCITING at the same time!!!
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on November 08, 2015, 11:45:46 am
Goes.outside.at.night-sky.is.black.
what.the.fuck.you.cant.trust.anyone.thesedays
<weird thought>

When youre dreaming and you die in a dream, you either wake up and well the dream ends there.
If afterlife were to be real wouldnt our brains be able to recreate an afterlife situation in a dream automatically?

as I said its just a thought...But our brains can come up with crazy shit while dreaming but not something as common as afterlife?
Or does that happen to some religious people? Do you actually experience afterlife in a dream where you have just died?

Idkidk.
Actually curious ::)

I couldnt and wouldnt start an argument about god over this thought but I still find it somewhat of an appealing question to me.
it happened a lot to me actually, it's not like I experience heaven or hell though, but happened to me once were everything was quite blurry white, i dunno how to express the dream itself though it's out of the ordinary. there is no scientific explanation for dreams or how we get them, so yeah just to tell you IT'S VERY SCARY AND EXCITING at the same time!!!
Cool.cool.I.wish.I.had.something.like.that
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on November 13, 2015, 12:04:14 am
Goes.outside.at.night-sky.is.black.
what.the.fuck.you.cant.trust.anyone.thesedays
<weird thought>

When youre dreaming and you die in a dream, you either wake up and well the dream ends there.
If afterlife were to be real wouldnt our brains be able to recreate an afterlife situation in a dream automatically?

as I said its just a thought...But our brains can come up with crazy shit while dreaming but not something as common as afterlife?
Or does that happen to some religious people? Do you actually experience afterlife in a dream where you have just died?

Idkidk.
Actually curious ::)

I couldnt and wouldnt start an argument about god over this thought but I still find it somewhat of an appealing question to me.
What if your brain was destroyed.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: The Dreams on November 13, 2015, 07:31:58 pm
yh I experienced something like that before, I was watching interstellar that night so I dreamed about me fighting spiritual beings and there was a huge library between us and then I had sex with 13 women and grabbed boobs of 39 women

thank you, heaven
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Someone12116 on November 13, 2015, 09:41:55 pm
yh I experienced something like that before, I was watching interstellar that night so I dreamed about me fighting spiritual beings and there was a huge library between us and then I had sex with 13 women and grabbed boobs of 39 women

thank you, heaven

DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on November 13, 2015, 09:57:47 pm
yh I experienced something like that before, I was watching interstellar that night so I dreamed about me fighting spiritual beings and there was a huge library between us and then I had sex with 13 women and grabbed boobs of 39 women

thank you, heaven
when your joke is so shit that you have to make an alt to post it.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on November 14, 2015, 12:35:57 am
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Marytheslut on November 14, 2015, 12:37:08 am
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on November 14, 2015, 12:39:38 am
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on November 14, 2015, 07:48:16 am
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on November 14, 2015, 12:07:24 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on November 14, 2015, 03:16:55 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on November 14, 2015, 04:22:43 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on November 14, 2015, 04:25:42 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
BUT IT'S DIFFERENT, Religion is a supposedly order from God. I knew you would not understand me at first but I explained further in case you didn't, yet you didn't understand what I explained after.

What ISIS think is a religion is just a group of hopeless motherfuckers led by a cunt called Abu Baker Albaghdadi WHICH CREATED THAT SO-CALLED RELIGION. Religion can not be created, it's a God thing. A human can't be God alright?

They're not Muslims, end of discussion.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on November 14, 2015, 04:27:17 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
Religion can not be created, it's a God thing.
Oh my sweet summer child...
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Kaarel 123 on November 15, 2015, 10:59:49 am
You cannot judge religion by what extremists do, you can judge them by taking a normal muslim, for example Yazan, who hates ISIS. Every religion has had extremists, yet you have no problem with other religions.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on November 15, 2015, 01:26:37 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
Religion can not be created, it's a God thing.
Oh my sweet summer child...
Aha, so when I go on the streets tonight, with a Bible in my hand, start killing random people, will that make me anything else a muslim? No it will not.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on November 15, 2015, 01:30:03 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
Religion can not be created, it's a God thing.
Oh my sweet summer child...
Aha, so when I go on the streets tonight, with a Bible in my hand, start killing random people, will that make me anything else a muslim? No it will not.
did anyone else comprehend what this thing just said
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Pr4y3r on November 15, 2015, 06:08:49 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
Religion can not be created, it's a God thing.
Oh my sweet summer child...
Aha, so when I go on the streets tonight, with a Bible in my hand, start killing random people, will that make me anything else a muslim? No it will not.
did anyone else comprehend what this thing just said
http://www.faithstreet.com/onfaith/2015/02/06/3-quranic-verses-that-prove-isis-is-un-islamic/36096
^^ just read this who think ISIS is islam kthxbai ;)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Il Skill L on November 16, 2015, 07:14:49 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
Muslims actually believe that Quran is worth nothing unless it is written in Arabic. So much gets lost when reading it as a translation to your native language or to english.
Quran is extremely hard to understand. Therefore there are so many different understandings and translations of what's actually written there. And that's pretty much what has ISIS done. They say that Quran justifies killing people and that it will benefit you in the afterlife, meanwhile the calm and peaceful muslims(MOST OF THEM) would never harm another human being.

I would be happy if a muslim could confirm my logic.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on November 16, 2015, 07:52:07 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
Muslims actually believe that Quran is worth nothing unless it is written in Arabic. So much gets lost when reading it as a translation to your native language or to english.
Quran is extremely hard to understand. Therefore there are so many different understandings and translations of what's actually written there. And that's pretty much what has ISIS done. They say that Quran justifies killing people and that it will benefit you in the afterlife, meanwhile the calm and peaceful muslims(MOST OF THEM) would never harm another human being.

I would be happy if a muslim could confirm my logic.
That's true, moreover that, ISIS also started adding some self-created Islamic rules as of how to murder a human and such but that's not the point, just felt like adding this here.

tl;dr
ISIS think that Abu Bakir Albagdadi is their so waited prophet, him dying->ISIS eliminated and separated.

Also, there is a big prize on this ISIS leader head (*cough*mario [skins]*cough*) hhh

:kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on November 16, 2015, 09:34:11 pm
Islam has over 100 violent and graphic verses in the Qu'ran.

Yaz, ISIS is a Muslim terrorist organisation/group. As well as the majority of these; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on November 16, 2015, 09:36:11 pm
Islam has over 100 violent and graphic verses in the Qu'ran.

Yaz, ISIS is a Muslim terrorist organisation/group. As well as the majority of these; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_groups
Ok we know

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on November 16, 2015, 09:48:23 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
Muslims actually believe that Quran is worth nothing unless it is written in Arabic. So much gets lost when reading it as a translation to your native language or to english.
Quran is extremely hard to understand. Therefore there are so many different understandings and translations of what's actually written there. And that's pretty much what has ISIS done. They say that Quran justifies killing people and that it will benefit you in the afterlife, meanwhile the calm and peaceful muslims(MOST OF THEM) would never harm another human being.

I would be happy if a muslim could confirm my logic.
That's true, moreover that, ISIS also started adding some self-created Islamic rules as of how to murder a human and such but that's not the point, just felt like adding this here.
Quote
47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on November 16, 2015, 09:50:43 pm
people here be like omg islam is peaceful religion

breaking news over 100 dead, witnesses confirmed the shooters yelled allahu akbar as they started killing off people

Fucking muslims
more like muslim extremists but yes fuck them
You're both stupid. The whole world knows that ISIS is killing in the name of Islam just to destroy its reputation.

ISIS are in no way Muslims.
They're killing in the name of allah, how are they not muslims?
I REPEAT, they're faking Islam which is a religion that worships ALLAH. So if they pretend to be Muslims, of course they'll kill in the name of Allah. BUT, Allah doesn't want this. Islam is a very peaceful religion you have no idea, killing an ant is a sin in Islam, that's the least I can tell you about Islam. If you have not realized, I'm a Muslim as well.

Moreover (example), me pretending to be a Christian and kill in the name of Christianity which I'm sure is prohibited in Christianity...That makes Christianity a terrorists or whatever you call them?

Anyways about ISIS, they have been created by a guy who is called Abu Baker Albaghdadi, you can google that too. This guy faked Islam and cheated on people by pretending he's a Khalifa (Khalifa: A muslim that lived when Muhammed was alive). Which means this is totally fake. He brainwashed thousands of people and made them think that killing and using people is the only valid way to treat Atheist people. We all know that religion is free to join and also free to not join. But ISIS doesn't abide by that global rule and still force people to enter their SO-CALLED Islam religion, it's more like terrorism religion lol. Anyways, that what separates ISIS from the rest of the world. They believe in God's existence, in other hand they're a fucking murderers, terrorists, people with cold blood and no conscious.

I hope that made some stuff clear for you, Rasmus, and changed the way you look toward Muslims. I'm not asking you to join Islam lol, just do not offend them in a way which there are some mystery stuff you don't know about.

Thanks.
I have no problems with muslims or their beliefs. I just find it contradictory that you say islam is a religion of peace when one could just look back at former terrorist attacks and which religion was behind it. They are muslims regardless whether you consider them muslims or not.
The people in the christian crusades killed in the name of christ. They were christian.
Isis kill in the name of allah. They are muslims.
Muslims actually believe that Quran is worth nothing unless it is written in Arabic. So much gets lost when reading it as a translation to your native language or to english.
Quran is extremely hard to understand. Therefore there are so many different understandings and translations of what's actually written there. And that's pretty much what has ISIS done. They say that Quran justifies killing people and that it will benefit you in the afterlife, meanwhile the calm and peaceful muslims(MOST OF THEM) would never harm another human being.

I would be happy if a muslim could confirm my logic.
That's true, moreover that, ISIS also started adding some self-created Islamic rules as of how to murder a human and such but that's not the point, just felt like adding this here.
Quote
47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”

Versus itself "(IN FIGHT)"

ISIS, kill innocents my friend. You're atheist, should I take your soul for the sake of it? lol please.


idk quote is not working lol.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on November 17, 2015, 12:10:15 am
It sounds like you are just trying to cover up what the Quran actually says by saying that all translations are inaccurate... Just saying.

It's not an argument, it's an excuse.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on November 17, 2015, 10:48:44 am
It sounds like you are just trying to cover up what the Quran actually says by saying that all translations are inaccurate... Just saying.

It's not an argument, it's an excuse.
Are you saying that ISIS are killing as a command of Qura'an?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on November 17, 2015, 01:59:30 pm
"I can't stand these American scumbags!!" is what you think that I would say :kappa:

let me put it clearly for you guys, you are all newborn to understand what Islam is, since you just believe that i will go down to your house tomorrow and bomb myself as a muslim that is.
no, that's totally not true if I would do that to anyone i would be bored of live already, also when you know nothing about qurran you can't really judge it.

just a matter of fact the qurran actually presents facts that are happening these days
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on November 17, 2015, 11:29:49 pm
It sounds like you are just trying to cover up what the Quran actually says by saying that all translations are inaccurate... Just saying.

It's not an argument, it's an excuse.
Are you saying that ISIS are killing as a command of Qura'an?

I don't know, and I guess I'll never know since no translations are real except the Arabic one. Right?
We are forced to believe everything you tell us about it because of that and I think it's Bullshit. That's all.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just saying that I'm tired of that excuse.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Joshiee on November 18, 2015, 04:47:03 pm
just a matter of fact the qurran actually presents facts that are happening these days
We know that. ^
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Chazz on November 20, 2015, 12:58:32 am
Quote
47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.”

2:190: “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.

8:61: “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline towards peace”

>MFW
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Il Skill L on November 20, 2015, 10:26:05 am
Actually the violent verses in the Quran were revealed later to Muhammad than the peaceful ones. Therefore some muslims believe that the violent verses "rule over" the peaceful ones.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on November 20, 2015, 01:29:48 pm
Actually the violent verses in the Quran were revealed later to Muhammad than the peaceful ones. Therefore some muslims believe that the violent verses "rule over" the peaceful ones.


Holy... GUYS GUYS ITS A UNBIASED MUSLIM WHO DOESN'T MAKE EXCUSES!

Good to know, thanks for the real information and not some bs
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Il Skill L on November 20, 2015, 02:04:39 pm
Actually the violent verses in the Quran were revealed later to Muhammad than the peaceful ones. Therefore some muslims believe that the violent verses "rule over" the peaceful ones.


Holy... GUYS GUYS ITS A UNBIASED MUSLIM WHO DOESN'T MAKE EXCUSES!

Good to know, thanks for the real information and not some bs
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not a muslim. I'm just interested in the religion and I've done some research.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bubblebeam2 on November 20, 2015, 02:07:53 pm
Actually the violent verses in the Quran were revealed later to Muhammad than the peaceful ones. Therefore some muslims believe that the violent verses "rule over" the peaceful ones.


Holy... GUYS GUYS ITS A UNBIASED MUSLIM WHO DOESN'T MAKE EXCUSES!

Good to know, thanks for the real information and not some bs
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not a muslim. I'm just interested in the religion and I've done some research.

I should have known it was too good to be true....
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: D0nt Rang It on November 20, 2015, 09:19:22 pm
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Zudikas95187 on November 20, 2015, 09:55:58 pm
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?
what did i just read?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: 3st Ranger X on November 20, 2015, 10:02:51 pm
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?

Did your mom drop you when you were younger?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Il Skill L on November 20, 2015, 10:14:53 pm
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?
what did i just read?
A wannabe conspiracy theorists uneducated opinion on a subject he has no idea of.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on November 21, 2015, 07:39:37 pm
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?

Did your mom drop you when you were younger?
out of all people in this game you are the biggest scumbag that anyone could meet for various reasons,I'll tell you what, you gain absolutely nothing from insulting people.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: 3st Ranger X on November 21, 2015, 10:16:27 pm
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?

Did your mom drop you when you were younger?
out of all people in this game you are the biggest scumbag that anyone could meet for various reasons,I'll tell you what, you gain absolutely nothing from insulting people.

That moment when i dont care that some random dude from somewhere random calls me scumbag. I'm free to say whatever i want, and so i will.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on November 21, 2015, 10:42:28 pm
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?

Did your mom drop you when you were younger?
out of all people in this game you are the biggest scumbag that anyone could meet for various reasons,I'll tell you what, you gain absolutely nothing from insulting people.

That moment when i dont care that some random dude from somewhere random calls me scumbag. I'm free to say whatever i want, and so i will.
i merely stated my opinion of you nothing else, if there isn't a rule against racism , then there really should be.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on November 22, 2015, 10:10:17 am
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?

Did your mom drop you when you were younger?
out of all people in this game you are the biggest scumbag that anyone could meet for various reasons,I'll tell you what, you gain absolutely nothing from insulting people.

That moment when i dont care that some random dude from somewhere random calls me scumbag. I'm free to say whatever i want, and so i will.
i merely stated my opinion of you nothing else, if there isn't a rule against racism , then there really should be.
Insulting retards isnt racism, retards are not a race.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rockmanexe on November 22, 2015, 10:38:10 am
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?

Did your mom drop you when you were younger?
out of all people in this game you are the biggest scumbag that anyone could meet for various reasons,I'll tell you what, you gain absolutely nothing from insulting people.

That moment when i dont care that some random dude from somewhere random calls me scumbag. I'm free to say whatever i want, and so i will.
i merely stated my opinion of you nothing else, if there isn't a rule against racism , then there really should be.
Insulting retards isnt racism, retards are not a race.
it's not that only comment that applies to him. every single comment, he has to be a total douche.

here is something good for you: showing a little bit of respect for other people, would only get you respect
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Zudikas95187 on November 22, 2015, 11:19:08 am
Paris attacks occur: within 8 minutes, Obama has a speech ready to be delivered n shit. Guy blows himself up, everything gets the destroyed, except for his passport. 9/11? Inside job? And obviously, they are heard saying Islamic verses. Like seriously?

Did your mom drop you when you were younger?
out of all people in this game you are the biggest scumbag that anyone could meet for various reasons,I'll tell you what, you gain absolutely nothing from insulting people.

That moment when i dont care that some random dude from somewhere random calls me scumbag. I'm free to say whatever i want, and so i will.
i merely stated my opinion of you nothing else, if there isn't a rule against racism , then there really should be.
Insulting retards isnt racism, retards are not a race.
it's not that only comment that applies to him. every single comment, he has to be a total douche.

here is something good for you: showing a little bit of respect for other people, would only get you respect
we are going a bit off topic here.
so guys, guys, lets all be friends, there's no need to fight about d0nt rang it. he's probably reading all of our comments and laughing his ass off.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Anarchy X3 on November 26, 2015, 11:19:46 am
(http://i68.tinypic.com/vzh8q1.jpg)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Desno on December 01, 2015, 06:35:21 pm
Do you believe in a God? Yes I do

Why do you believe in God? Because I found faith after attending Sunday mass regularly as a child

Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe? Belief in God does not define whether you are a good person, you could be the most strict Muslim or strict Catholic on Earth, but how you are as a person, the actions you make and the words you speak, they define if you are a good person... I know plenty of religious people who were definitely not good people - just like I know many Atheists who are good people!

Have you experienced anything out off the natural? Yes I have, basically a meaningful song came on one day when I was home alone, I went to the toilet, so I left my the music playing on my computer, once I had  finished and began to wash my hands, just as I heard the chorus coming on, the song got turned up really loud. When I went back to my computer, it was as I left it, but the music was just insanely loud.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Drugs on December 02, 2015, 03:50:32 pm
Do you believe in a God? Yes I do

Why do you believe in God? Because I found faith after attending Sunday mass regularly as a child

Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe? Belief in God does not define whether you are a good person, you could be the most strict Muslim or strict Catholic on Earth, but how you are as a person, the actions you make and the words you speak, they define if you are a good person... I know plenty of religious people who were definitely not good people - just like I know many Atheists who are good people!

Have you experienced anything out off the natural? Yes I have, basically a meaningful song came on one day when I was home alone, I went to the toilet, so I left my the music playing on my computer, once I had  finished and began to wash my hands, just as I heard the chorus coming on, the song got turned up really loud. When I went back to my computer, it was as I left it, but the music was just insanely loud.
God spoke to you while taking a shit, what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 02, 2015, 04:01:07 pm
Do you believe in a God? Yes I do

Why do you believe in God? Because I found faith after attending Sunday mass regularly as a child

Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe? Belief in God does not define whether you are a good person, you could be the most strict Muslim or strict Catholic on Earth, but how you are as a person, the actions you make and the words you speak, they define if you are a good person... I know plenty of religious people who were definitely not good people - just like I know many Atheists who are good people!

Have you experienced anything out off the natural? Yes I have, basically a meaningful song came on one day when I was home alone, I went to the toilet, so I left my the music playing on my computer, once I had  finished and began to wash my hands, just as I heard the chorus coming on, the song got turned up really loud. When I went back to my computer, it was as I left it, but the music was just insanely loud.

Isn't this what we call going in to a psychosis?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Zudikas95187 on December 02, 2015, 05:42:12 pm
justin bieber
am i laughing from your name wayyyy to hard...yes.
are you actually justin...yes.
should you get insta and ip banned...from life...if you are justin bieber...YES.


going on topic, i do believe in god, and i used to walk to weekly ceremony every sunday, now i just rarely go to church :\
but i still believe there is an after life.
note: i'm a catholic, ty.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Desno on December 05, 2015, 01:03:33 pm
Do you believe in a God? Yes I do

Why do you believe in God? Because I found faith after attending Sunday mass regularly as a child

Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe? Belief in God does not define whether you are a good person, you could be the most strict Muslim or strict Catholic on Earth, but how you are as a person, the actions you make and the words you speak, they define if you are a good person... I know plenty of religious people who were definitely not good people - just like I know many Atheists who are good people!

Have you experienced anything out off the natural? Yes I have, basically a meaningful song came on one day when I was home alone, I went to the toilet, so I left my the music playing on my computer, once I had  finished and began to wash my hands, just as I heard the chorus coming on, the song got turned up really loud. When I went back to my computer, it was as I left it, but the music was just insanely loud.

Isn't this what we call going in to a psychosis?

Call it what you want, to me, it's faith.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: A1r on February 09, 2016, 08:08:15 pm
I just found this topic lol , religion is funny.... no one knows who's right but we are all willing to kill or discredit each other for what we believe to be the truth. I have my own beliefs and experiences, the world is too beautiful and expansive to be so black and white(with out having some spiritual nature). I believe in a afterlife as well, but in this material plane I also believe the only thing that truly exist is my own conscious. reality isn't really real.. the only "real" thing is what we perceive. in the Christian bible there is a story about how a man doubted god so god withdrew his presence from this man for 40 years. so in a sense it would be true to say for that man in those 40 years god did not exist. but to have a doubt in god, would also mean their was a god for you to lack certainty in. I believe in god  and I am a Christian but that does not limit me to only believing what everyone says. the bible says believe jesus is lord and god and to repented for your sins then baptized in water. I'm a very spiritual person but I'm very practical at the same time. stuff like the big bang theory and evolution just don't make sense.  yes there might be a 'god" particle but that doest explain intelligent life. these are just some of my thought lol

p.s I'm just trying to get my 10 post done so I can post on forums freely..
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: King125 on February 09, 2016, 08:40:11 pm
I just found this topic lol , religion is funny.... no one knows who's right but we are all willing to kill or discredit each other for what we believe to be the truth. I have my own beliefs and experiences, the world is too beautiful and expansive to be so black and white(with out having some spiritual nature). I believe in a afterlife as well, but in this material plane I also believe the only thing that truly exist is my own conscious. reality isn't really real.. the only "real" thing is what we perceive. in the Christian bible there is a story about how a man doubted god so god withdrew his presence from this man for 40 years. so in a sense it would be true to say for that man in those 40 years god did not exist. but to have a doubt in god, would also mean their was a god for you to lack certainty in. I believe in god  and I am a Christian but that does not limit me to only believing what everyone says. the bible says believe jesus is lord and god and to repented for your sins then baptized in water. I'm a very spiritual person but I'm very practical at the same time. stuff like the big bang theory and evolution just don't make sense.  yes there might be a 'god" particle but that doest explain intelligent life. these are just some of my thought lol

p.s I'm just trying to get my 10 post done so I can post on forums freely..
Holy shit an actual rational person on this topic. It's a miracle.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rocklal on February 18, 2016, 03:47:29 pm
I believe in god and actually in allah.
but I still support the evolution theory until a certain point though, however bigbang theory is false and there's no denying it, for several scientific reasons it just doesn't make sense, and that's why it's still a theory.

as for why do I believe in allah that's because I was convinced entirely by my own research :D.
I read so many books and articles, and one of them is called my aithiest friend
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Charr on February 18, 2016, 04:18:23 pm
but I still support the evolution theory until a certain point though, however bigbang theory is false and there's no denying it, for several scientific reasons it just doesn't make sense, and that's why it's still a theory.
(http://media1.giphy.com/media/6OWIl75ibpuFO/giphy.gif)

Please read this: http://www.livescience.com/21491-what-is-a-scientific-theory-definition-of-theory.html
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Ashootsh on February 27, 2016, 04:49:24 am
How is this topic still alive lol....
also 10k views....

Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Stifler on March 05, 2016, 10:04:47 pm
I don't believe in anything until I see it.

tbh EMIN3M is god
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Skelon on March 07, 2016, 07:42:35 pm
Big Bang theory is more believable than the bible/Quran purely because these scientists show us facts and figures where as a book was written by some guy/woman however many years ago, if you want me to believe what has been written in a book then where is my hogwarts acceptance letter?
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on March 08, 2016, 06:57:58 am
Big Bang theory is more believable than the bible/Quran purely because these scientists show us facts and figures where as a book was written by some guy/woman however many years ago, if you want me to believe what has been written in a book then where is my hogwarts acceptance letter?

Brb throwing some bombs and making humans

#BELIEVE

:kappa:
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Skelon on March 08, 2016, 08:05:06 am
Big Bang theory is more believable than the bible/Quran purely because these scientists show us facts and figures where as a book was written by some guy/woman however many years ago, if you want me to believe what has been written in a book then where is my hogwarts acceptance letter?

Brb throwing some bombs and making humans

#BELIEVE

:kappa:

Considering it wasn't a bomb but okay,

Ive read the bible and find it hard to believe
This is more believable to me http://www.universetoday.com/76509/how-was-the-earth-formed/
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Zeepleeuw on March 08, 2016, 08:17:10 am
Big Bang theory is more believable than the bible/Quran purely because these scientists show us facts and figures where as a book was written by some guy/woman however many years ago, if you want me to believe what has been written in a book then where is my hogwarts acceptance letter?

Brb throwing some bombs and making humans

#BELIEVE

:kappa:
Big Bang didn't only create earth ;) also, there was no life on the planet Earth for a long time
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Nightfall12 on March 08, 2016, 04:22:57 pm
Do you believe in a God?
Why do you believe in God?
Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe?


Have you experienced anything out off the natural?
If so, tell me. I would like to hear :P

In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.
Here is a quote that explains perfectly fine what i believe in :P

I dont believe in heaven and hell. I dont know if i believe in god.
All i know is that as an individual, i wont allow this life - the only thing i know to exist - to be wasted. - George Clooney

"Religion. It’s just the ultimate hustle. Why can’t god just defeat the devil? It’s the same reason a comic book character can’t defeat his nemesis. Then there’s no story. If god gets rid of the devil, and he could because he’s all powerful, well there’s no fear. No reason to come to church." -unknown

I don't believe in god, but ill make some valid points in people who believe in gods favor once the debate start :D

Normal forum and debate rules apply, dont go off-topic or personal!

I believe in a oneness, you may call this God,Buddah,Goddess,Allah,etc. To be specific this God is all of us, we are all apart of the "God" experience. We create and destroy. In fact to say God is male is false for "God" is not a specific gender nor being to be precise.

She is all that is, all that isn't, all that will ever be; The space you see and the space you don't see.

I don't believe in the Bible, I think there is good teachings that can be applied to your life to help you become a more evolved being. However nothing should be taken literal in anyway. I don't believe in "Right" and "Wrong" those are things society created that consistently change corresponding to our evolution as a species.

I don't believe in Hell/Satan, the same way I don't believe in right/wrong. It's a slap to Gods face when you say there's right/wrong the same way you say there's Hell.

1.) If God is all powerful she could easily just eradicate your very existence, there's is no need for Hell.

2.) If She gave us free will why would he say "Oh hey but don't do this", what kind of free will is that? It's a contradiction, thus again invented by Humans.

I honestly believe organized religion is one of the biggest evils of the world, how many nations have fallen, people killed/tortured etc, in the name of one God/Goddess. You don't need to do anything to be with "God" or pay anything or attend anything, eat/drink/do/become etc.

God is all around you every day, speaking to you constantly, she's in the words you're reading now, or in the lyrics of a song you listened to, or the words your friends just spoke, in the animal you just saw, the rivers that flow, list goes on.

Our purpose here is to simply remember who we are spiritually, to be who we have always been, to experience the things that don't make us, US. To live the experience of God. For God to know itself, it must experience itself through us, but in the end we are still one.

Example: You're baking a pie in the kitchen put the air smells wonderful, you go into the bathroom and the air is not so nice, or you do into the attic and say "Hey it's stuffy in here!" So you open a window to get some air, in reality it's all the same air, just in different perspectives, which is a first grade example of our Soul(s).

We are all one, in this together, there is no death, time does not exist, it's one moment. There is no sin, wrong/right.

There's a fraction of what I believe in, there's so much more but it'd take a while to type.
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Yaz on March 09, 2016, 06:46:42 am
Big Bang theory is more believable than the bible/Quran purely because these scientists show us facts and figures where as a book was written by some guy/woman however many years ago, if you want me to believe what has been written in a book then where is my hogwarts acceptance letter?

Brb throwing some bombs and making humans

#BELIEVE

:kappa:

Considering it wasn't a bomb but okay,

Ive read the bible and find it hard to believe
This is more believable to me http://www.universetoday.com/76509/how-was-the-earth-formed/
I don't know what bibble says, I ain't a christian. Neither interested to read either lol

Plus, you got my point of the "bomb" meaning, aka explosion. Or was the big bang something else? ::)
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Rocklal on March 11, 2016, 12:32:13 am
Do you believe in a God?
Why do you believe in God?
Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe?


Have you experienced anything out off the natural?
If so, tell me. I would like to hear :P

In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.
Here is a quote that explains perfectly fine what i believe in :P

I dont believe in heaven and hell. I dont know if i believe in god.
All i know is that as an individual, i wont allow this life - the only thing i know to exist - to be wasted. - George Clooney

"Religion. It’s just the ultimate hustle. Why can’t god just defeat the devil? It’s the same reason a comic book character can’t defeat his nemesis. Then there’s no story. If god gets rid of the devil, and he could because he’s all powerful, well there’s no fear. No reason to come to church." -unknown

I don't believe in god, but ill make some valid points in people who believe in gods favor once the debate start :D

Normal forum and debate rules apply, dont go off-topic or personal!

I believe in a oneness, you may call this God,Buddah,Goddess,Allah,etc. To be specific this God is all of us, we are all apart of the "God" experience. We create and destroy. In fact to say God is male is false for "God" is not a specific gender nor being to be precise.

She is all that is, all that isn't, all that will ever be; The space you see and the space you don't see.

I don't believe in the Bible, I think there is good teachings that can be applied to your life to help you become a more evolved being. However nothing should be taken literal in anyway. I don't believe in "Right" and "Wrong" those are things society created that consistently change corresponding to our evolution as a species.

I don't believe in Hell/Satan, the same way I don't believe in right/wrong. It's a slap to Gods face when you say there's right/wrong the same way you say there's Hell.

1.) If God is all powerful she could easily just eradicate your very existence, there's is no need for Hell.

2.) If She gave us free will why would he say "Oh hey but don't do this", what kind of free will is that? It's a contradiction, thus again invented by Humans.

I honestly believe organized religion is one of the biggest evils of the world, how many nations have fallen, people killed/tortured etc, in the name of one God/Goddess. You don't need to do anything to be with "God" or pay anything or attend anything, eat/drink/do/become etc.

God is all around you every day, speaking to you constantly, she's in the words you're reading now, or in the lyrics of a song you listened to, or the words your friends just spoke, in the animal you just saw, the rivers that flow, list goes on.

Our purpose here is to simply remember who we are spiritually, to be who we have always been, to experience the things that don't make us, US. To live the experience of God. For God to know itself, it must experience itself through us, but in the end we are still one.

Example: You're baking a pie in the kitchen put the air smells wonderful, you go into the bathroom and the air is not so nice, or you do into the attic and say "Hey it's stuffy in here!" So you open a window to get some air, in reality it's all the same air, just in different perspectives, which is a first grade example of our Soul(s).

We are all one, in this together, there is no death, time does not exist, it's one moment. There is no sin, wrong/right.

There's a fraction of what I believe in, there's so much more but it'd take a while to type.

logically saying, so many things you mentioned were beyond human acceptance and understanding, it's really messed up. how can possibly anyone imagine that time doesn't exist.
if time doesn't exist then there is no night or morning neither spring nor fall, I think that's absolutely wrong.
as for my part, the reason I believe in religion is the "soul" it's the thing that can't be explained well.
basically if there is no soul then there is no what we call a "human" or even an animal.
what I mean by that is they will start aacting like robots even if there body parts were functioned.
it's shows how mysterious the "soul" is.
also so many things in this world happened with no logical explanation,  for example "dreams" they aren't explained until our day, nor we know the real cause behind it, I mean sometimes you dream while nothing really special happens in your daily life.
and the reason i believe in allah is another story which happened in the past.
I was about 13 years old and my heart was hesitating, I was really lost that time, people walking around me like they had no purpose but in the end of the day they all have a purpose, what was going through my mind. thoughts like "why am I even walking" and" will I ever reach my goal" has went through my mnd the whole time, until I say "that" a light in the sky shined and landed on the top of aqsa mosque then before anyone knew it, "it" already took off, something that seems to mean nothing, changed a life of person so much, that day I felt like "how supreb" I still recall that day very well, one can't just ignore that can we
Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Jacob on March 14, 2016, 07:39:05 pm
Do you believe in a God?
Why do you believe in God?
Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe?


Have you experienced anything out off the natural?
If so, tell me. I would like to hear :P

In my opinion, i can't believe something i can't see.
Here is a quote that explains perfectly fine what i believe in :P

I dont believe in heaven and hell. I dont know if i believe in god.
All i know is that as an individual, i wont allow this life - the only thing i know to exist - to be wasted. - George Clooney

"Religion. It’s just the ultimate hustle. Why can’t god just defeat the devil? It’s the same reason a comic book character can’t defeat his nemesis. Then there’s no story. If god gets rid of the devil, and he could because he’s all powerful, well there’s no fear. No reason to come to church." -unknown

I don't believe in god, but ill make some valid points in people who believe in gods favor once the debate start :D

Normal forum and debate rules apply, dont go off-topic or personal!

I believe in a oneness, you may call this God,Buddah,Goddess,Allah,etc. To be specific this God is all of us, we are all apart of the "God" experience. We create and destroy. In fact to say God is male is false for "God" is not a specific gender nor being to be precise.

She is all that is, all that isn't, all that will ever be; The space you see and the space you don't see.

I don't believe in the Bible, I think there is good teachings that can be applied to your life to help you become a more evolved being. However nothing should be taken literal in anyway. I don't believe in "Right" and "Wrong" those are things society created that consistently change corresponding to our evolution as a species.

I don't believe in Hell/Satan, the same way I don't believe in right/wrong. It's a slap to Gods face when you say there's right/wrong the same way you say there's Hell.

1.) If God is all powerful she could easily just eradicate your very existence, there's is no need for Hell.

2.) If She gave us free will why would he say "Oh hey but don't do this", what kind of free will is that? It's a contradiction, thus again invented by Humans.

I honestly believe organized religion is one of the biggest evils of the world, how many nations have fallen, people killed/tortured etc, in the name of one God/Goddess. You don't need to do anything to be with "God" or pay anything or attend anything, eat/drink/do/become etc.

God is all around you every day, speaking to you constantly, she's in the words you're reading now, or in the lyrics of a song you listened to, or the words your friends just spoke, in the animal you just saw, the rivers that flow, list goes on.

Our purpose here is to simply remember who we are spiritually, to be who we have always been, to experience the things that don't make us, US. To live the experience of God. For God to know itself, it must experience itself through us, but in the end we are still one.

Example: You're baking a pie in the kitchen put the air smells wonderful, you go into the bathroom and the air is not so nice, or you do into the attic and say "Hey it's stuffy in here!" So you open a window to get some air, in reality it's all the same air, just in different perspectives, which is a first grade example of our Soul(s).

We are all one, in this together, there is no death, time does not exist, it's one moment. There is no sin, wrong/right.

There's a fraction of what I believe in, there's so much more but it'd take a while to type.

logically saying, so many things you mentioned were beyond human acceptance and understanding, it's really messed up. how can possibly anyone imagine that time doesn't exist.
if time doesn't exist then there is no night or morning neither spring nor fall, I think that's absolutely wrong.
as for my part, the reason I believe in religion is the "soul" it's the thing that can't be explained well.
basically if there is no soul then there is no what we call a "human" or even an animal.
what I mean by that is they will start aacting like robots even if there body parts were functioned.
it's shows how mysterious the "soul" is.
also so many things in this world happened with no logical explanation,  for example "dreams" they aren't explained until our day, nor we know the real cause behind it, I mean sometimes you dream while nothing really special happens in your daily life.
and the reason i believe in allah is another story which happened in the past.
I was about 13 years old and my heart was hesitating, I was really lost that time, people walking around me like they had no purpose but in the end of the day they all have a purpose, what was going through my mind. thoughts like "why am I even walking" and" will I ever reach my goal" has went through my mnd the whole time, until I say "that" a light in the sky shined and landed on the top of aqsa mosque then before anyone knew it, "it" already took off, something that seems to mean nothing, changed a life of person so much, that day I felt like "how supreb" I still recall that day very well, one can't just ignore that can we

Time is a tool of measurement to better help us comprehend daily life. Just as we use Lbs/Kilos to determine the heaviness of an object. If we take away the tool of measurement for weight(Pounds/Kilos/etc) that object does not all of a sudden become weightless or less than it was or vice versa. It just is as it was. So stating that if time exist would not all of a sudden eliminate Morning/Fall/Spring/Day/Night is illogical.

Time is just a tool a measurement.

You believe in Allah because your parents/teachers/elders told you to so that is now apart of your sub-consciousnesses. So when you dream of course you believe it to be Allah. If you were raised in a Christian household you would it it was Jesus.

I don't disagree with you about your dream in anyway, but all means I'm happy you have a enlightened experience that changed your life in a positive way, I just disagree with calling Allah of a certain Gender/Form, since I believe God/Allah/Buddha (Etc) is all the same. Just different cultures have their own ideology on the subject so they shape it in their likeness.



Title: Re: Religion
Post by: Bluesunrunne on November 26, 2017, 06:41:10 pm
I found this and read through all the "debating"
LOL ur all so lost on this...
just ask god urself if u dont understand something about him  ;D

here's a link to one of gods prophets:
https://www.youtube.com/user/faulk600
you may find some aswers here too...

sorry i'm 1 year late with this reply lol