Quote from: Dovahkiin on July 25, 2015, 07:15:37 pm

Quote from: Drugs on July 25, 2015, 07:04:17 pm

Yeah-god.doesnt.exist.

Why.the.f.would.you.believe.in.god.anyways?What.has.he.done.for.you?

well..when you live in weird parts of the world like i am where Thailand Vodoo shaman Djin crap is still practiced. You'll believe in god like i do. Be grateful with your 1st world lux.

You're on emps which means you have a computer and internet connection, your siggy is from skyrim which means you probably also have a high end pc. I think that qualifies for 1st world luxury too.

mfw.religious.person.says.that.everyone.who.believes.in.god.lives.in.a.3rd.world.country.
l0l

Do you believe in a God? Yes , I belive in Karmalian
Why do you believe in God?Because shes Karma
Does it make you a better/worse person to believe or not believe?It makes me better because shes Karma

God exist,
       God exist because you cannot create something without nothing.

Then where did god come from?

. Science proved it, even the "big bang" is caused by something which mean the "big bang" is not the beginning but only act as current unconfirmed final answer by modern science regarding "origin" topic

Yes and if you don't understand something the proper answer is to say 'I don't know'. Do you have proof for your god aside from assertions?

       There are so many mysteries in this world that even science cannot find the answers.Origin of mankind,living things DNA,basic knowledge obtained by newborn (ever wonder how sea turtle hatchlings know how to dig out of the sand and swim to the sea?),and "deja vu" itself cannot be explain by science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instinct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu

   Do you really think that all events happened in coincidence? look at our system, it is prefectly work without flaw and remain in the physics current laws. Don't you think that something out there is controlling all this? Something that is not attached to space , time , and dimension?

The human body is not perfect, you can personally google the flaws of it. One of my favorites is the one where we can choke because all of our food+air goes through one tube. A dolphin can't choke because they have multiple tubes. We also have a blind spot, muscles that are useless in our feet and the nice ability to get cancer. Do you know who doesn't get cancer? Naked mole rats

Saying that 'do you believe all things happened in coincidence?!!' isn't really a good argument. Each time you play chess/go/a card game you create a position which has an extremely low chance of occurring. Yet you don't stand up and claim it fake.

What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?

Quote from: Dovahkiin on July 25, 2015, 06:42:53 pm

God exist,
       God exist because you cannot create something without nothing.

Then where did god come from?

Quote from: Dovahkiin on July 25, 2015, 06:42:53 pm

. Science proved it, even the "big bang" is caused by something which mean the "big bang" is not the beginning but only act as current unconfirmed final answer by modern science regarding "origin" topic

Yes and if you don't understand something the proper answer is to say 'I don't know'. Do you have proof for your god aside from assertions?

Quote from: Dovahkiin on July 25, 2015, 06:42:53 pm

       There are so many mysteries in this world that even science cannot find the answers.Origin of mankind,living things DNA,basic knowledge obtained by newborn (ever wonder how sea turtle hatchlings know how to dig out of the sand and swim to the sea?),and "deja vu" itself cannot be explain by science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instinct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu

Quote from: Dovahkiin on July 25, 2015, 06:42:53 pm

   Do you really think that all events happened in coincidence? look at our system, it is prefectly work without flaw and remain in the physics current laws. Don't you think that something out there is controlling all this? Something that is not attached to space , time , and dimension?

The human body is not perfect, you can personally google the flaws of it. One of my favorites is the one where we can choke because all of our food+air goes through one tube. A dolphin can't choke because they have multiple tubes. We also have a blind spot, muscles that are useless in our feet and the nice ability to get cancer. Do you know who doesn't get cancer? Naked mole rats

Saying that 'do you believe all things happened in coincidence?!!' isn't really a good argument. Each time you play chess/go/a card game you create a position which has an extremely low chance of occurring. Yet you don't stand up and claim it fake.

You forgot to put this at the end


:kappa:

What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?

damn marek, if we are, then we're a failed experiment :kappa:

Quote from: Icedrags on July 26, 2015, 01:23:36 am

What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?
http://i.aaronmbushnell.com/mindblown.gif

damn marek, if we are, then I'm a failed experiment

Fix'd it fer ya

Quote from: Suryoyo K0 on July 26, 2015, 02:29:25 am

Quote from: Icedrags on July 26, 2015, 01:23:36 am

What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?
http://i.aaronmbushnell.com/mindblown.gif

damn marek, if we are, then Chazz is a failed experiment

Fix'd it fer ya

oi m8 i can also change it :kappa:

For those saying that there are no unpredictable happenings , go read about the chaos theory.
As kane said, this topic is becoming a shitstorm since all the overly smart atheists are bashing the religious people because they want proof.
Can you all just be friendly and rational lol?

What if we all are just random lab rats and  "gods" run tests on us? any of you ever thought of that?

>God is omniscient (most of the time)
>Needs to run tests to which he knows the answer

wat

For those saying that there are no unpredictable happenings , go read about the chaos theory.
As kane said, this topic is becoming a shitstorm since all the overly smart atheists are bashing the religious people because they want proof.
Can you all just be friendly and rational lol?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

I dun geddit.

I'm not bashing people, just politely asking people for proof. Which is rational you know, why believe something without proof?

For those saying that there are no unpredictable happenings , go read about the chaos theory.
As kane said, this topic is becoming a shitstorm since all the overly smart atheists are bashing the religious people because they want proof.
Can you all just be friendly and rational lol?

Asking for proof is the most rational thing one can do in a debate. We could just straight up bash religious people for their lack of proof, but at least Irfox gives them a chance.

ok, this topic is getting us nowhere, I believe in God, not because I want something from him like marry in a church, or anything else christians and muslims want' I just believe because I want to believe you can call me delusional or an idiot for believing something I can't see and I can call you idiots or anything I want but I wont because being an atheist is your business and me being a believer is my business, People have much other things to worry about in their lives than worry about if God exists or not, I don't have the rights to control your life and tell you to believe and neither do you have the control of my life. Everyone can do the shit they want to do, if you want to believe, then believe, if you can't believe something you can't see, then don't, the person that can force you to believe isnt born yet.

Do the shit that you want to do in your life, and stop worrying about other people lives.

ok, this topic is getting us nowhere, I believe in God, not because I want something from him like marry in a church, or anything else christians and muslims want' I just believe because I want to believe you can call me delusional or an idiot for believing something I can't see and I can call you idiots or anything I want but I wont because being an atheist is your business and me being a believer is my business, People have much other things to worry about in their lives than worry about if God exists or not, I don't have the rights to control your life and tell you to believe and neither do you have the control of my life. Everyone can do the shit they want to do, if you want to believe, then believe, if you can't believe something you can't see, then don't, the person that can force you to believe isnt born yet.

Do the shit that you want to do in your life, and stop worrying about other people lives.

It's a debate board, why is no one getting that?

If you don't want to debate then stop posting here ffs

Quote from: Fireblast12 on July 26, 2015, 08:41:36 am

For those saying that there are no unpredictable happenings , go read about the chaos theory.
As kane said, this topic is becoming a shitstorm since all the overly smart atheists are bashing the religious people because they want proof.
Can you all just be friendly and rational lol?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory

I dun geddit.

I'm not bashing people, just politely asking people for proof. Which is rational you know, why believe something without proof?

Chaos theory= there are unpredictable things, you can't predict everything. I said that cos keiskelar and dovahkiin comment

Do you really think that all events happened in coincidence?

made no sense.
no proof that something exists isn't proof that something can't exist.
When I said that people should be friendly I didn't refer to you, I referred to the other people that are making fun of the believing people.
Most of the atheists are people that think that they are way too smart because they refer to science without even knowing what science is.
Because of this the people start insulting believers with 'idiot' 'delusional' etc.
It really annoys me lol

You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?

You.dont.need.to.say."chaos.theory".to.explain.that.you.cant.accurately.predict.every.single.thing.
Its.not.science.when.you.replace."common.sense".with."chaos.theory".and.try.to.use.it.to.prove.something.scientifically.

you.cant.even.explain.god.with.chaos.theory.
chaos.theory.is.about.something.that.exists.but.you.can.not.predict.how.they.affect.something.

how.my.life.affects.your.life.in.30.years.even.if.I.dont.know.you?1+1=?
you.cant.even.ask.about.this.question.about.god.because.he.simply.doesnt.exist.1+?=?

Where did I say that chaos theory is proof for the existence of god ?
It is thought by a lot of scientist that everything is predictable if you have the right formula