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Title: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on September 25, 2014, 09:26:26 pm
Agree/Disagree with it? Why?

As for me, I most definitely disagree with it.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on September 25, 2014, 10:16:01 pm
If everyone respects each other why not
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on September 25, 2014, 11:13:30 pm
If everyone respects each other why not
That's the point. Things are far from respecting.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on September 26, 2014, 08:32:32 am
If everyone respects each other why not
That's the point. Things are far from respecting.
There are little groups of extremists who fuck things up.
Without em everything is chill.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on September 27, 2014, 11:26:15 am
If everyone respects each other why not
That's the point. Things are far from respecting.
There are little groups of extremists who fuck things up.
Without em everything is chill.
Not really. Lots of them are still living off of our tax money.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Your Death on September 28, 2014, 08:15:54 pm
Ofc disagree
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Avenus on September 29, 2014, 06:06:49 pm
If everyone respects each other why not
That's the point. Things are far from respecting.
There are little groups of extremists who fuck things up.
Without em everything is chill.

Totally agree on this one, there is always this little group who fucks up :D
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Mary on October 10, 2014, 08:11:25 am
Depends. Some are good people and work hard, some do the dirty work in our land, and some are just living off our tax money and be assholes in general.. Stupid thing is the asshole part is a bigger % than the natives in our land have assholes.

For example on my college like 50% is foreign and talk english with us (my study is english). In general they're awesome people with awesome stories about their culture :)
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Drugs on October 10, 2014, 10:53:34 pm
Mi casa, tu casa. Ey Amigo?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Mary on October 10, 2014, 10:54:21 pm
Mi casa, tu casa. Ey Amigo?
MACARENAAAAAA
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Chazz on October 10, 2014, 11:59:38 pm
Mi casa, tu casa. Ey Amigo?
MACARENAAAAAA
Que?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Avenus on October 11, 2014, 12:06:14 am
Mi casa, tu casa. Ey Amigo?
MACARENAAAAAA
Que?
Como? Me llamo avenus senor padre.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Mary on October 11, 2014, 12:10:26 am
Mi casa, tu casa. Ey Amigo?
MACARENAAAAAA
Que?
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Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Chazz on October 11, 2014, 12:20:22 am
Mi casa, tu casa. Ey Amigo?
MACARENAAAAAA
Que?
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Uno dos tres cactus
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Drugs on October 11, 2014, 11:35:28 am
Mi casa, tu casa. Ey Amigo?
MACARENAAAAAA
Que?
Obligatory
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Uno dos tres cactus
Ey Zorro
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Hmm2 on December 09, 2014, 11:16:39 pm
i'm not European but i wish to say my opinion. for me multiculturalism should be allowed anywhere anytime, provided that the minorities respect the fact that they live in that certain country which has a certain prevalent culture\religion. and on the other hand the majority needs to be accepting and don't feel superior because this is where most if not all of the wars\conflicts come from. if the problem is small peace-wrecking groups, then these exist in any and every kind of culture,country and religion. even every family member differ from the other, so accepting differences is essential for living a normal and peaceful human life. and last but not least, Europe was the leading continent in all modern human rights and national treaties, so i can't see the logic in refusing multiculturalism.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Joshiee on December 10, 2014, 11:39:15 am

Sole reason I disagree with it.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Hmm2 on December 10, 2014, 02:14:24 pm

Sole reason I disagree with it.
i wish you heard the last line she said
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Joshiee on December 11, 2014, 08:47:20 am

Sole reason I disagree with it.
i wish you heard the last line she said
I wish you saw what actually goes on in the UK over this sort of issue. It's pathetic and is the sole reason I'd disagree with multiculturalism.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, because it's not. Just from experience and what I have saw with my very own eyes, the only problem I have regarding multiculturalism is Islamic/Muslim extremists.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Hmm2 on December 11, 2014, 11:28:42 am

Sole reason I disagree with it.
i wish you heard the last line she said
I wish you saw what actually goes on in the UK over this sort of issue. It's pathetic and is the sole reason I'd disagree with multiculturalism.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, because it's not. Just from experience and what I have saw with my very own eyes, the only problem I have regarding multiculturalism is Islamic/Muslim extremists.
you didn't understand the video you yourself posted. ignorance and racism is the sole reason of this issue, if Britain has never followed  USA in the fake wars against terrorism( led by the most stupid president ever for the us at that time) all these lunatics wouldn't have showed up. everything started when the west decided to discriminate against Muslims just like they did against Jews, black people and the long list of minorities that were oppressed because they are different.
and what the hell is all of this topic about anyway? you disagree with multiculturalism? are you serious? there is no thomy (unfortunately) to do roll backs in the real world. or lets just do like ferdinand and isabilla did to muslims and jews in spain and make them all convert to Christianity. and you should know that if you say yes then you are the same as these extremists.
my last point is that all this issue wasn't even noticed before the whole "islamophibia" thing started(nearly 2000) which proves that Europe brought that upon itself, because you can't expect that people won't retaliate when they feel oppressed in the place that is supposed to be the land of freedom and human rights. so what i'm saying is that multiculturalism is not the cause of this, it is the stupid decisions of a stupid bunch that rules the continent.   
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 11, 2014, 02:44:44 pm

Sole reason I disagree with it.
i wish you heard the last line she said
I wish you saw what actually goes on in the UK over this sort of issue. It's pathetic and is the sole reason I'd disagree with multiculturalism.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, because it's not. Just from experience and what I have saw with my very own eyes, the only problem I have regarding multiculturalism is Islamic/Muslim extremists.
you didn't understand the video you yourself posted. ignorance and racism is the sole reason of this issue, if Britain has never followed  USA in the fake wars against terrorism( led by the most stupid president ever for the us at that time) all these lunatics wouldn't have showed up. everything started when the west decided to discriminate against Muslims just like they did against Jews, black people and the long list of minorities that were oppressed because they are different.
and what the hell is all of this topic about anyway? you disagree with multiculturalism? are you serious? there is no thomy (unfortunately) to do roll backs in the real world. or lets just do like ferdinand and isabilla did to muslims and jews in spain and make them all convert to Christianity. and you should know that if you say yes then you are the same as these extremists.
my last point is that all this issue wasn't even noticed before the whole "islamophibia" thing started(nearly 2000) which proves that Europe brought that upon itself, because you can't expect that people won't retaliate when they feel oppressed in the place that is supposed to be the land of freedom and human rights. so what i'm saying is that multiculturalism is not the cause of this, it is the stupid decisions of a stupid bunch that rules the continent.   
Yes, I strongly disagree with multiculturalism.
If you're so arrogant, then do some research on Sweden and muslims.

Sweden’s National Crime Prevention Council 2013 reports indicate 6,000 Rapes and 17,000 Sexual Assaults of Women. Furthermore, only 23% are reported meaning there were an estimated 24,000 Rapes and 68,000 Sexual Assaults.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants


Victim of a muslim gang rape.
When asking the rapists the reason, they answered "she was asking for it".
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 11, 2014, 03:29:38 pm
Sweden’s National Crime Prevention Council 2013 reports indicate 6,000 Rapes and 17,000 Sexual Assaults of Women. Furthermore, only 23% are reported meaning there were an estimated 24,000 Rapes and 68,000 Sexual Assaults.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants


Source pls
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 11, 2014, 03:32:12 pm
Sweden’s National Crime Prevention Council 2013 reports indicate 6,000 Rapes and 17,000 Sexual Assaults of Women. Furthermore, only 23% are reported meaning there were an estimated 24,000 Rapes and 68,000 Sexual Assaults.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants


Source pls
http://www.skanskan.se/article/20131231/TTINRIKES/312319970
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Hmm2 on December 11, 2014, 05:51:34 pm

Sole reason I disagree with it.
i wish you heard the last line she said
I wish you saw what actually goes on in the UK over this sort of issue. It's pathetic and is the sole reason I'd disagree with multiculturalism.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, because it's not. Just from experience and what I have saw with my very own eyes, the only problem I have regarding multiculturalism is Islamic/Muslim extremists.
you didn't understand the video you yourself posted. ignorance and racism is the sole reason of this issue, if Britain has never followed  USA in the fake wars against terrorism( led by the most stupid president ever for the us at that time) all these lunatics wouldn't have showed up. everything started when the west decided to discriminate against Muslims just like they did against Jews, black people and the long list of minorities that were oppressed because they are different.
and what the hell is all of this topic about anyway? you disagree with multiculturalism? are you serious? there is no thomy (unfortunately) to do roll backs in the real world. or lets just do like ferdinand and isabilla did to muslims and jews in spain and make them all convert to Christianity. and you should know that if you say yes then you are the same as these extremists.
my last point is that all this issue wasn't even noticed before the whole "islamophibia" thing started(nearly 2000) which proves that Europe brought that upon itself, because you can't expect that people won't retaliate when they feel oppressed in the place that is supposed to be the land of freedom and human rights. so what i'm saying is that multiculturalism is not the cause of this, it is the stupid decisions of a stupid bunch that rules the continent.   
Yes, I strongly disagree with multiculturalism.
If you're so arrogant, then do some research on Sweden and muslims.

Sweden’s National Crime Prevention Council 2013 reports indicate 6,000 Rapes and 17,000 Sexual Assaults of Women. Furthermore, only 23% are reported meaning there were an estimated 24,000 Rapes and 68,000 Sexual Assaults.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants


Victim of a muslim gang rape.
When asking the rapists the reason, they answered "she was asking for it".
it feels like you're talking about Africa , is there actually police in that country?
and what does it mean :"i'm strongly against multiculturalism" ? what is the  point of this topic? it won't make a difference if anyone is against or with because simply it is a fact that won't change, unless of course Europe decides to use primitive methods. and don't get this wrong, a significant part of the Muslims there are actually Europeans not Arabs, Africans, Asians or from any other Islamic part of the world. it is like you're saying you are simply against other people's religion, which would be really pathetic.   
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 11, 2014, 06:25:46 pm
Sweden’s National Crime Prevention Council 2013 reports indicate 6,000 Rapes and 17,000 Sexual Assaults of Women. Furthermore, only 23% are reported meaning there were an estimated 24,000 Rapes and 68,000 Sexual Assaults.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants


Source pls
http://www.skanskan.se/article/20131231/TTINRIKES/312319970
I used google translate and I didn't see a single sentence where it stated that muslims were the cause for the rapes.
Did I miss a paragraph?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Joshiee on December 11, 2014, 06:27:31 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331143/Pictured-crowd-called-beheading-British-soldiers-Newly-unearthed-photo-terror-suspect-Adebolajo-banned-extremist-group.html
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Hmm2 on December 11, 2014, 07:08:40 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331143/Pictured-crowd-called-beheading-British-soldiers-Newly-unearthed-photo-terror-suspect-Adebolajo-banned-extremist-group.html
if this has become a war of links then here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Central_Prison
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_war_crimes#Iraq_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/05/14/world-court-target-uk-war-crimes-iraq
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9514271/Hundreds-of-British-troops-to-be-questioned-over-weak-war-crime-allegations.html
and the list goes on. i am not posting these because i want to say that killing people there is right but i just want to show you the source of these crimes. on another note for you guys just to know, japan has prevented foreigners from entering the counry for hundreds of years but failed to keep that situation going on, simply because it is impossible to prevent people from interacting with you.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 11, 2014, 08:26:26 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331143/Pictured-crowd-called-beheading-British-soldiers-Newly-unearthed-photo-terror-suspect-Adebolajo-banned-extremist-group.html
Congratulations you gave 3cases where a muslim killed a non muslim.
Now we all can say that all muslims are terrorists and killers and they all need to fuck off from uk.
Now do you want me to link you to muslims genocides by catholics?
Or let's remind you of the cruisades to jeruzalem?
How many muslims were killed then?

My point is, it's not about your religion or nationality , it's about your nature and education.
There is extremism everywhere, not just in islam.
Some retards start killing people in name of Allah so Islam is garbage and violent?
No, those retards are violent, not islam.
Before making those anti islam statements think about the people who aren't violent, I can assure you that most of the muslims are not violent and won't rape, kill or beat a random stranger for no reason.
Also, those people who move into 'your' country they have a reason for it.
They won't be all YOLO let's go to the uk, no, most of them fleed for war, genocides, bad economy etc.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Straw Hat on December 11, 2014, 09:29:53 pm
When I clicked on Joshiee's video.. the girl's voice sounded so obnoxious and ignorant  I could not stand to listen to the rest lol.

Second I find it really weird that someone can be racist to a nationality or color.
Im arab, I grew up with Somalian, white, Asian and any kind of kid. I never felt oh why is he like that nor that he should not be here  in my country or area or that im superior due to my color and the tabouleh I ate. :D

I know people are trying not bring religion into this convo, so I will not either.
A person doesn't choose the culture nor the color he is nor If he speaks arabic english french german or what ever.
You did not choose your hair color nor how tall you are nor the language you grew up speaking nor you parents.
So I honestly do not understand how someone can think of himself as superior when in reality we are just weak and did not even choose to be born. People really need a mind check and think about reality. Were all gna die at some point, and we cant stop it.
Grow up and stop thinking about all this drama and start thinking about the true meaning of life. It cant just be to be born eat sleep and die.





Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Joshiee on December 12, 2014, 06:08:19 am
I am in no way shape or form racist.
I have just came here to express my opinion on this issue; and so I have. I have no problem with Muslims, nor do I disrespect them in any way.

I am against Muslim/Islamic extremism in my country. How dare people come to our homeland and get sheltered, get food and get our benefits. For what? To protest and start shouting "BRITISH POLICE, BURN IN HELL".
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 12, 2014, 09:30:12 am

Sole reason I disagree with it.
i wish you heard the last line she said
I wish you saw what actually goes on in the UK over this sort of issue. It's pathetic and is the sole reason I'd disagree with multiculturalism.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, because it's not. Just from experience and what I have saw with my very own eyes, the only problem I have regarding multiculturalism is Islamic/Muslim extremists.
you didn't understand the video you yourself posted. ignorance and racism is the sole reason of this issue, if Britain has never followed  USA in the fake wars against terrorism( led by the most stupid president ever for the us at that time) all these lunatics wouldn't have showed up. everything started when the west decided to discriminate against Muslims just like they did against Jews, black people and the long list of minorities that were oppressed because they are different.
and what the hell is all of this topic about anyway? you disagree with multiculturalism? are you serious? there is no thomy (unfortunately) to do roll backs in the real world. or lets just do like ferdinand and isabilla did to muslims and jews in spain and make them all convert to Christianity. and you should know that if you say yes then you are the same as these extremists.
my last point is that all this issue wasn't even noticed before the whole "islamophibia" thing started(nearly 2000) which proves that Europe brought that upon itself, because you can't expect that people won't retaliate when they feel oppressed in the place that is supposed to be the land of freedom and human rights. so what i'm saying is that multiculturalism is not the cause of this, it is the stupid decisions of a stupid bunch that rules the continent.   
Yes, I strongly disagree with multiculturalism.
If you're so arrogant, then do some research on Sweden and muslims.

Sweden’s National Crime Prevention Council 2013 reports indicate 6,000 Rapes and 17,000 Sexual Assaults of Women. Furthermore, only 23% are reported meaning there were an estimated 24,000 Rapes and 68,000 Sexual Assaults.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants


Victim of a muslim gang rape.
When asking the rapists the reason, they answered "she was asking for it".
it feels like you're talking about Africa , is there actually police in that country?
and what does it mean :"i'm strongly against multiculturalism" ? what is the  point of this topic? it won't make a difference if anyone is against or with because simply it is a fact that won't change, unless of course Europe decides to use primitive methods. and don't get this wrong, a significant part of the Muslims there are actually Europeans not Arabs, Africans, Asians or from any other Islamic part of the world. it is like you're saying you are simply against other people's religion, which would be really pathetic.
I am talking about Europe, Sweden. Yes, there is police.

Sweden’s National Crime Prevention Council 2013 reports indicate 6,000 Rapes and 17,000 Sexual Assaults of Women. Furthermore, only 23% are reported meaning there were an estimated 24,000 Rapes and 68,000 Sexual Assaults.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants


Source pls
http://www.skanskan.se/article/20131231/TTINRIKES/312319970
I used google translate and I didn't see a single sentence where it stated that muslims were the cause for the rapes.
Did I miss a paragraph?
Yes


Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: King125 on December 12, 2014, 09:32:18 am
Yes
I can read swedish and it doesn't say anything about muslims.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Someone12116 on December 12, 2014, 09:56:58 am
Multiculturalism isn't a problem in Finland IMO. Of course some people blame foreign people for 'stealing jobs and women'. I don't know about 'stealing the women', but I can see foreigners getting good jobs because they work so damn hard, even for smaller pay.


Sole reason I disagree with it.

Foreigners or not, extremists are always a pain in the butt.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Hmm2 on December 12, 2014, 10:57:23 am
I am in no way shape or form racist.
I have just came here to express my opinion on this issue; and so I have. I have no problem with Muslims, nor do I disrespect them in any way.

I am against Muslim/Islamic extremism in my country. How dare people come to our homeland and get sheltered, get food and get our benefits. For what? To protest and start shouting "BRITISH POLICE, BURN IN HELL".
indeed, Muslims' in-gathering in the UK is the biggest in Europe, which means the UK is doing a pretty good job and of course no one can deny that they are having a good life there. but in my opinion, this is the least UK and the rest of the European countries can do to repay what they did to Muslims. i'm not saying they should burn in hell (because that is really retarded) but at least taking responsibility for the actions they did, among that , expecting extremism. as a Muslim i am really ashamed of these people and how they try to hog Islam for themselves and talk in its name. at this very moment the same people are having their way in Syria,Iraq,Yemen,Libya and all the "arabic spring" countries destroying all kinds of culture,history and life. if you are against this kind of people and you're not mistaking them for the rest of the Muslims then i can totally agree with you. i wish we could get rid of their violence and ignorance.
on another note:  joshie is always a badass but never a racist  ;D   
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 12, 2014, 12:07:16 pm
Yes
I can read swedish and it doesn't say anything about muslims.
That's because Sweden is overprotective when it comes to muslims. Ofc they don't mention muslims in it, otherwise it would be an assault to the muslims, ofc.

If you don't believe me, do some research on your own.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Rape_rate_per_100%2C000_-_country_comparison_-_United_Nations_2012.png)
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 12, 2014, 12:15:05 pm
Yes
I can read swedish and it doesn't say anything about muslims.
That's because Sweden is overprotective when it comes to muslims. Ofc they don't mention muslims in it, otherwise it would be an assault to the muslims, ofc.

If you don't believe me, do some research on your own.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Rape_rate_per_100%2C000_-_country_comparison_-_United_Nations_2012.png)
I still don't see the proof that only immigrants rape..
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 12, 2014, 12:28:43 pm
Never said only.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 12, 2014, 12:45:53 pm
Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 12, 2014, 12:55:04 pm
Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 12, 2014, 01:26:06 pm
Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
if 3 out of 100 muslims rape  you need to get rid off all the muslims?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 12, 2014, 02:21:59 pm
Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
if 3 out of 100 muslims rape  you need to get rid off all the muslims?
That's 3000 out of 100k
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: King125 on December 12, 2014, 02:49:48 pm
Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
if 3 out of 100 muslims rape  you need to get rid off all the muslims?
That's 3000 out of 100k
still only 3%. It seems like you think the muslims that rape are worse than the other 97000
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 12, 2014, 03:04:36 pm
Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
if 3 out of 100 muslims rape  you need to get rid off all the muslims?
That's 3000 out of 100k
Your logic though..
You want to punish the majority because some scrubs committed a crime?
There are criminals in every religion, so let's whipe out every religion.
Oh and there are criminals without a religion though, let's whipe em all out aswell.
Who will be left after that?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 12, 2014, 03:25:35 pm
Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
if 3 out of 100 muslims rape  you need to get rid off all the muslims?
That's 3000 out of 100k
still only 3%. It seems like you think the muslims that rape are worse than the other 97000
So 3000 rapers running around raping doesn't bother you, eh? Who cares what the percent is.

Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
if 3 out of 100 muslims rape  you need to get rid off all the muslims?
That's 3000 out of 100k
Your logic though..
You want to punish the majority because some scrubs committed a crime?
There are criminals in every religion, so let's whipe out every religion.
Oh and there are criminals without a religion though, let's whipe em all out aswell.
Who will be left after that?
Why punish? I'm talking about multiculturalism. I'm simply against letting them inside my home land, that is a punishment? That is protecting my nation and people.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: King125 on December 12, 2014, 03:38:53 pm
Who cares what the percent is.
You're the one emphasizing on the scale of things, 3/100 is just as bad as 3000/100.000. However that's not the matter at hand. Let's put it in a different perspective - you see 100 people robbing a store. Do you arrest the 3 muslims doing it first? Why?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Someone12116 on December 12, 2014, 03:40:03 pm
Where did you guys get the 3% from ???
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 12, 2014, 03:42:26 pm
Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
if 3 out of 100 muslims rape  you need to get rid off all the muslims?
That's 3000 out of 100k
still only 3%. It seems like you think the muslims that rape are worse than the other 97000
So 3000 rapers running around raping doesn't bother you, eh? Who cares what the percent is.

Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
if 3 out of 100 muslims rape  you need to get rid off all the muslims?
That's 3000 out of 100k
Your logic though..
You want to punish the majority because some scrubs committed a crime?
There are criminals in every religion, so let's whipe out every religion.
Oh and there are criminals without a religion though, let's whipe em all out aswell.
Who will be left after that?
Why punish? I'm talking about multiculturalism. I'm simply against letting them inside my home land, that is a punishment? That is protecting my nation and people.
This a like a closed cycle, let's start again then.
People don't come to your country with no reason, they probably fleed from their own country because they were in danger or their family was.
Now because of a small group that rapes you will punish all those immigrants who come to your country for safety by not letting em in?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 12, 2014, 04:24:11 pm
Who cares what the percent is.
You're the one emphasizing on the scale of things, 3/100 is just as bad as 3000/100.000. However that's not the matter at hand. Let's put it in a different perspective - you see 100 people robbing a store. Do you arrest the 3 muslims doing it first? Why?
No, I arrest who ever I catch first. Because they are all robbing. (When talking about multiculturalism: Because they are all ruining our culture and nation)

This a like a closed cycle, let's start again then.
People don't come to your country with no reason, they probably fleed from their own country because they were in danger or their family was.
Now because of a small group that rapes you will punish all those immigrants who come to your country for safety by not letting em in?
I'm not only talking about raping. They ruin our culture. Multiculturalism has a wider meaning.
If they come here, because they can't live in their own country with their own culture, they better adopt OUR culture when coming to OUR country.

Asia for the Asians
Africa for the Africans
Israel for the Jews
White countries for EVERYONE?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 12, 2014, 05:25:38 pm
Who cares what the percent is.
You're the one emphasizing on the scale of things, 3/100 is just as bad as 3000/100.000. However that's not the matter at hand. Let's put it in a different perspective - you see 100 people robbing a store. Do you arrest the 3 muslims doing it first? Why?
No, I arrest who ever I catch first. Because they are all robbing. (When talking about multiculturalism: Because they are all ruining our culture and nation)

This a like a closed cycle, let's start again then.
People don't come to your country with no reason, they probably fleed from their own country because they were in danger or their family was.
Now because of a small group that rapes you will punish all those immigrants who come to your country for safety by not letting em in?
I'm not only talking about raping. They ruin our culture. Multiculturalism has a wider meaning.
If they come here, because they can't live in their own country with their own culture, they better adopt OUR culture when coming to OUR country.

Asia for the Asians
Africa for the Africans
Israel for the Jews
White countries for EVERYONE?
Again extremism.
There are little groups of extremists who want to bring sharia laws etc into a country, that doesn't make the whole muslim community bad.
If I go and say I hate all estonians, does that mean that all russians hate all estonians?
Aswell how do they ruin your culture? can you give examples ?
And most of the time they don't flee their country because of the culture but because of war or economical problems.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 12, 2014, 05:35:48 pm
Take a look at USA. It's a total mix of different cultures. There IS NOT an American culture anymore. It's a melting pot.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 12, 2014, 05:37:16 pm
Take a look at USA. It's a total mix of different cultures. There IS NOT an American culture anymore. It's a melting pot.
Great example, now go google the history of usa pls
The "American" culture has been dead for decenias.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 12, 2014, 07:06:17 pm
That's what I'm talking about?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 12, 2014, 08:16:04 pm
That's what I'm talking about?
Oh mb I thought you were talking about the americans that we now call americans.
Anyway europeans went to America, killed the natives and then started living there.
Their intention was to conquer it, they wanted power.
Most of the immigrants now don't go to a country to conquer it, they just want a happy life.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Rockmanexe on December 13, 2014, 02:35:23 pm

[/quote]I'm not only talking about raping. They ruin our culture. Multiculturalism has a wider meaning.
If they come here, because they can't live in their own country with their own culture, they better adopt OUR culture when coming to OUR country.

Asia for the Asians
Africa for the Africans
Israel for the Jews
White countries for EVERYONE?
[/quote]
don't talk like you know what are you saying
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 13, 2014, 09:19:43 pm

I'm not only talking about raping. They ruin our culture. Multiculturalism has a wider meaning.
If they come here, because they can't live in their own country with their own culture, they better adopt OUR culture when coming to OUR country.

Asia for the Asians
Africa for the Africans
Israel for the Jews
White countries for EVERYONE?
[/quote]
don't talk like you know what are you saying
[/quote]
Don't say random sentences without arguments, if you are here to do that feel free to leave, this is a debate topic and you should debate with arguments..
And no need for personal attacks
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Rockmanexe on December 13, 2014, 11:38:35 pm
Who put a freaking coin in you i wasn't talking to you,what i am talking about is a different thing and Im not gonna say a word about it because Im not here to start a war
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on December 14, 2014, 12:47:45 am
Who put a freaking coin in you i wasn't talking to you,what i am talking about is a different thing and Im not gonna say a word about it because Im not here to start a war
Freedom of speech, did you know that you can tell your opinion without starting a war?
Well feel free to leave this topic.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 14, 2014, 02:58:56 pm
Please use proper grammar so I can understand what you are saying.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: My Name Is on December 15, 2014, 10:16:05 am
Never said only.
Nearly 100% are committed by Muslim immigrants.
I"ll rephrase myself, I don't see any proof that most of the rapes are commited by immigrants.
Hurrdurr that was copied information. Okay.

Let's just forget about the 100% thing.

The point is that, even if they increase the rape/crime rates just a little bit, we are better off without them.
if 3 out of 100 muslims rape  you need to get rid off all the muslims?
That's 3000 out of 100k
Your logic though..
You want to punish the majority because some scrubs committed a crime?
There are criminals in every religion, so let's whipe out every religion.
Oh and there are criminals without a religion though, let's whipe em all out aswell.
Who will be left after that?
Why punish? I'm talking about multiculturalism. I'm simply against letting them inside my home land, that is a punishment? That is protecting my nation and people.




And i am against Estonians and Polish people coming to steal shit in my country.
Ok Ekke, i will be you now.
"97% off all thief's in Norway is from Estonia and Poland, allahu akubar death upon them".
Get back to your own dirty country instead off coming to mine and stealing shit. Cause thats what you do.

Do you like when i say this about your country when it in reality is true?
Same for Islam and muslims, not everyone is terrorists and extremists.
Not every Estonian dick out there is a thief.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 15, 2014, 11:54:59 am
If you think so then be so. I don't know about that topic. If you think it is like that, then sure, be against it. Just like I am against multiculturalism.

I do not care if you talk like that since I do not know anything about it. If it is truth then what ever, truth hurts.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Hmm2 on December 15, 2014, 10:47:11 pm
If you think so then be so. I don't know about that topic. If you think it is like that, then sure, be against it. Just like I am against multiculturalism.

I do not care if you talk like that since I do not know anything about it. If it is truth then what ever, truth hurts.
this is going to be a bit long so please bear with me  ;)

okey please don't think of this as any sort of aggressive question, i'm trying to make a productive civilized conversation.
ok so you say you are against multiculturalism, i can't blame you if i put myself in your shoes as a guy from Europe who has his dreams and thoughts, not interested in the other's Circumstances (absolutely not an offence) because in my opinion my country is being ruined by the alien factor so what matters to me is to keep the peaceful life i am leading from getting destroyed (might be abit extreme to use this word but you know :) ). your fears are totally legitimate if you take this issue from this really narrow corner,and undeveloped point of view. don't misunderstand me here, i agree with your fears but i don't agree with your thought of multiculturalism.
now in my opinion, the main problem here is your way of stating your opinion. i said this before but only saying that you are against multiculturalism is not enough because, as a part of the other party, i see this only as a gathering of anti-minorities opinions, which will make me and the other relevant people answer aggressively. this means one thing, you are helping to raise the tension and ,as a result , the extreme thoughts between peoples.
now it would be nice if you answered this question honestly (taking what i said above in consideration), what do you think is the solution for this situation?  i mean, now that multiculturalism is a fact that can't be changed, and you can't accept the results of this fact (not that these results are only caused by it because there are many factors in the equation).
i'm really hoping that you don't give me an "extreme" answer here.  :-\
 
and lastly i hope that i have kept an objective way of speaking in this particular post  :)
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 16, 2014, 07:01:32 am
But it can be changed?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Hmm2 on December 17, 2014, 07:30:02 pm
But it can be changed?
i quit, this is not going anywhere
the only way to change the status quo is to kick every last foreigner from every country in Europe, which doesn't make any sense so i have to quit this debate because the way i see it, we can't have a civilized conversation (like i asked before) if we continue. sorry
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on December 18, 2014, 02:09:10 pm
Why on earth would I be against it if it couldn't be changed?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Zeepleeuw on December 20, 2014, 09:57:46 am
Why on earth would I be against it if it couldn't be changed?
this is quite the post you made eh?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: April on December 29, 2014, 03:30:08 pm
The multiculturalism in Europe is kind of inevitable.  Due to various economical and climatic reasons people from all over the world will start emigrating in to Europe (casting away the fact, that there are many immigrates here anyway.). Sooner or later one must respect another, or one will eat another.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 05:00:35 pm
I just actually wrote like a thousand word comment, still wasn't done. So I try to sum it up, shorter hopely, And try to bring out my point as fast and clear as possible..
 
I have the same doctor, friends for like forever, and everytime literally, They say my name wrong. But if I would do it, I would be called dumb. I always believed integrating started by yourself.

How can immigrants, (or people who have immigrants as like a dad or grandfather) Find work?
Tell me how can they find work, if we're afraid of their surnames.. Don't tell me it's not true. We all know it.

Going back is no option. I might be turkish , but I see myself more as a dutchman, Because we took over the culture everything. It's not even taken over, we were born like this. And there is literally no difference between me , and any other dutch guy. I'm not a violent person at all, And I still get called Turk or whatever, Maybe as a joke , majority of the time not. 
I hope I brought a new light to this subject.. And I'd like to discuss about it, Because in my eyes we are missing one of the most beautiful things that could happen, Meeting other people of other cultures. It's really amazing, But people don't realise it..


Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on January 03, 2015, 06:52:18 pm
I just actually wrote like a thousand word comment, still wasn't done. So I try to sum it up, shorter hopely, And try to bring out my point as fast and clear as possible..
 
I have the same doctor, friends for like forever, and everytime literally, They say my name wrong. But if I would do it, I would be called dumb. I always believed integrating started by yourself.

How can immigrants, (or people who have immigrants as like a dad or grandfather) Find work?
Tell me how can they find work, if we're afraid of their surnames.. Don't tell me it's not true. We all know it.

Going back is no option. I might be turkish , but I see myself more as a dutchman, Because we took over the culture everything. It's not even taken over, we were born like this. And there is literally no difference between me , and any other dutch guy. I'm not a violent person at all, And I still get called Turk or whatever, Maybe as a joke , majority of the time not. 
I hope I brought a new light to this subject.. And I'd like to discuss about it, Because in my eyes we are missing one of the most beautiful things that could happen, Meeting other people of other cultures. It's really amazing, But people don't realise it..
Reality isn't so beautiful. Reality is that the people who come to Europe aren't all so peaceful and respectful towards us and our culture.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 07:42:32 pm
I just actually wrote like a thousand word comment, still wasn't done. So I try to sum it up, shorter hopely, And try to bring out my point as fast and clear as possible..
 
I have the same doctor, friends for like forever, and everytime literally, They say my name wrong. But if I would do it, I would be called dumb. I always believed integrating started by yourself.

How can immigrants, (or people who have immigrants as like a dad or grandfather) Find work?
Tell me how can they find work, if we're afraid of their surnames.. Don't tell me it's not true. We all know it.

Going back is no option. I might be turkish , but I see myself more as a dutchman, Because we took over the culture everything. It's not even taken over, we were born like this. And there is literally no difference between me , and any other dutch guy. I'm not a violent person at all, And I still get called Turk or whatever, Maybe as a joke , majority of the time not. 
I hope I brought a new light to this subject.. And I'd like to discuss about it, Because in my eyes we are missing one of the most beautiful things that could happen, Meeting other people of other cultures. It's really amazing, But people don't realise it..
Reality isn't so beautiful. Reality is that the people who come to Europe aren't all so peaceful and respectful towards us and our culture.

Reality isn't so beautiful, for immature people like you . who expects other people to change , while they don't give them to oppurtunity to change, nor do you change yourself towards them. So how in the hell do you expect them to change . tell me.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 07:53:48 pm
I just actually wrote like a thousand word comment, still wasn't done. So I try to sum it up, shorter hopely, And try to bring out my point as fast and clear as possible..
 
I have the same doctor, friends for like forever, and everytime literally, They say my name wrong. But if I would do it, I would be called dumb. I always believed integrating started by yourself.

How can immigrants, (or people who have immigrants as like a dad or grandfather) Find work?
Tell me how can they find work, if we're afraid of their surnames.. Don't tell me it's not true. We all know it.

Going back is no option. I might be turkish , but I see myself more as a dutchman, Because we took over the culture everything. It's not even taken over, we were born like this. And there is literally no difference between me , and any other dutch guy. I'm not a violent person at all, And I still get called Turk or whatever, Maybe as a joke , majority of the time not. 
I hope I brought a new light to this subject.. And I'd like to discuss about it, Because in my eyes we are missing one of the most beautiful things that could happen, Meeting other people of other cultures. It's really amazing, But people don't realise it..
Reality isn't so beautiful. Reality is that the people who come to Europe aren't all so peaceful and respectful towards us and our culture.

We are all human beings.. There isn't us and them. You are completely wrong, with your whole mindset.

'' We've all got both light and dark inside of us. what matters is the part we choose to act on that's who we really are ''
A nice quote by Sirius Black from the harry potter series.

The majority of the immigrants MIGHT be not that peaceful and respectful . But who the fuck are you? Yes you sir. To blame on other human beings? Are you or the europeans perfect? Tell me are you ? It would be a huge step, to respect them, and then see that you would get your respect back. And otherways you tried, And you would see it's not always the case that their violent.

We as humans have good and bad in us, There is no certain group such as the immigrants that are more violent. We humans could be either bad or good. You just can't mix it up with culture nor religion nor nothiing else. Nobody is perfect, I'm pretty sure you aren't either . So as I said who the hell are you THEN. To expect them to be perfect?

Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on January 03, 2015, 07:59:57 pm
I am an Estonian living in my homeland.

I respect those who respect me.



And who are the immigrants?

Are they respecting us?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 08:03:08 pm
I am an Estonian living in my homeland.

I respect those who respect me.

Exactly! That's what I mean !
Maybe your whole mindset is wrong, and that's the reason, that you will make many mistakes in life.
Maybe you should try respecting people more often, eventually you would get the respect back.

Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 08:06:06 pm
I am an Estonian living in my homeland.

I respect those who respect me.



And who are the immigrants?

Are they respecting us?

I don't know the immigrants in your country.
And you can see my post before.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on January 03, 2015, 08:08:11 pm
I am an Estonian living in my homeland.

I respect those who respect me.



And who are the immigrants?

Are they respecting us?

I don't know the immigrants in your country.
And you can see my post before.
They don't respect us = I don't respect them.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 08:18:16 pm
I am an Estonian living in my homeland.

I respect those who respect me.



And who are the immigrants?

Are they respecting us?

I don't know the immigrants in your country.
And you can see my post before.
They don't respect us = I don't respect them.

That's good for you ! You won't get much further in life with that mindset. You will understand that much better when you get mentally adultish, I'd say.
I really don't want to discuss with someone, who comes with arguments like this.
Weird how you demand respect for no respect. But like I said ^^^ . Incase you would like to come with valid arguments, then we could talk a bit more.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on January 03, 2015, 08:22:59 pm
What's your logic? "Weird how you demand respect for no respect"?

They come to my country. They need to earn my respect first.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 08:29:38 pm
What's your logic? "Weird how you demand respect for no respect"?

They come to my country. They need to earn my respect first.

They have to earn nothing?
It's up to theirself to respect you or nothing. We live in a free world. and even the goverment has no right to tell you who to respect and who not?
So like I Said, You are nothing more than a simple citizen just like them..
Imagine, You are coming to my house.. You don't speak our language. You barely know our country. And we act like a prick towards you. What would you think about that?

Please, İ'm begging you, Try to put yourself in their shoes. and come with better things. İ'm just repeating the things in other words, so you can understand.

Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on January 03, 2015, 08:34:04 pm
What the actual **** are you saying.

So you just come to Europe and don't respect us and expect us to respect you?

"Imagine, You are coming to my house.. You don't speak our language. You barely know our country. And we act like a prick towards you. What would you think about that?"

That's why immigrants need to respect us and our culture ffs. Do you even think what you are saying? You're completely talking against yourself.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 08:43:18 pm
What the actual **** are you saying.

So you just come to Europe and don't respect us and expect us to respect you?

"Imagine, You are coming to my house.. You don't speak our language. You barely know our country. And we act like a prick towards you. What would you think about that?"

That's why immigrants need to respect us and our culture ffs. Do you even think what you are saying? You're completely talking against yourself.

No I'm not. You just dont understand me, You just see everything from 1 point of a view.
If you would go to my house, And we would act like a prick. It wouldn't be a solution , unless you hate multiculturalism no matter what.

If you would go to my house, And I would act friendly, and respect you, You would respect me back. And eventually we would understand eachother much better, and it would be easier for you to get the hang of my house. And just integrate.

Wouldn't it?

Just answer this, Because with your mindset you can't go anywhere.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Zeepleeuw on January 03, 2015, 08:43:56 pm
What the actual **** are you saying.

So you just come to Europe and don't respect us and expect us to respect you?

"Imagine, You are coming to my house.. You don't speak our language. You barely know our country. And we act like a prick towards you. What would you think about that?"

That's why immigrants need to respect us and our culture ffs. Do you even think what you are saying? You're completely talking against yourself.

No I'm not. You just dont understand me, You just see everything from 1 point of a view.
If you would go to my house, And we would act like a prick. It wouldn't be a solution , unless you hate multiculturalism no matter what.

If you would go to my house, And I would act friendly, and respect you, You would respect me back. And eventually we would understand eachother much better, and it would be easier for you to get the hang of my house. And just integrate.

Wouldn't it?

Just answer this, Because with your mindset you can't go anywhere.
we act like a prick because we get no respect from them.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on January 03, 2015, 08:45:26 pm
What the actual **** are you saying.

So you just come to Europe and don't respect us and expect us to respect you?

"Imagine, You are coming to my house.. You don't speak our language. You barely know our country. And we act like a prick towards you. What would you think about that?"

That's why immigrants need to respect us and our culture ffs. Do you even think what you are saying? You're completely talking against yourself.
Problem is people generalise, two muslims blow up a tower so the third muslim is a terrorist aswell --> acting bitchy to the third muslim who actually can be a nice person.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 09:12:35 pm
What the actual **** are you saying.

So you just come to Europe and don't respect us and expect us to respect you?

"Imagine, You are coming to my house.. You don't speak our language. You barely know our country. And we act like a prick towards you. What would you think about that?"

That's why immigrants need to respect us and our culture ffs. Do you even think what you are saying? You're completely talking against yourself.
Problem is people generalise, two muslims blow up a tower so the third muslim is a terrorist aswell --> acting bitchy to the third muslim who actually can be a nice person.
Couldn't say it better myself..
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on January 03, 2015, 09:54:51 pm
Maybe you have misunderstood me. After an hour long chat with Fireblast12, I have come to the conclusion that I should tell you better what I am against.

I'm against the current policy of multiculturalism. Non-respectful, violent, non-working immigrants coming to Europe and befoul our culture.
I have nothing against respectful and working immigrants.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 10:01:17 pm
Maybe you have misunderstood me. After an hour long chat with Fireblast12, I have come to the conclusion that I should tell you better what I am against.

I'm against the current policy of multiculturalism. Non-respectful, violent, non-working immigrants coming to Europe and befoul our culture.
I have nothing against respectful and working immigrants.

That's something else ofcourse, You could mention that. You've changed the subject in a 360 degree. You was moments ago, just against them. now against a part. Means that Fireblast and I reached something.
But still, I kind of agree. But don't tell me there are no estonians that don't work. It could happen to everyone. Maybe to your parents or you , with the crisis going, it's certainly not only the immigrants..
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on January 03, 2015, 10:10:03 pm
Maybe you have misunderstood me. After an hour long chat with Fireblast12, I have come to the conclusion that I should tell you better what I am against.

I'm against the current policy of multiculturalism. Non-respectful, violent, non-working immigrants coming to Europe and befoul our culture.
I have nothing against respectful and working immigrants.

That's something else ofcourse, You could mention that. You've changed the subject in a 360 degree. You was moments ago, just against them. now against a part. Means that Fireblast and I reached something.
But still, I kind of agree. But don't tell me there are no estonians that don't work. It could happen to everyone. Maybe to your parents or you , with the crisis going, it's certainly not only the immigrants..
it doesn't matter who it is, if you go to a country and want to stay there without doing shit then just leave.
There shouldn't be free looters from other peoples their work
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Its Sk1ll3r on January 03, 2015, 11:24:40 pm
Maybe you have misunderstood me. After an hour long chat with Fireblast12, I have come to the conclusion that I should tell you better what I am against.

I'm against the current policy of multiculturalism. Non-respectful, violent, non-working immigrants coming to Europe and befoul our culture.
I have nothing against respectful and working immigrants.

That's something else ofcourse, You could mention that. You've changed the subject in a 360 degree. You was moments ago, just against them. now against a part. Means that Fireblast and I reached something.
But still, I kind of agree. But don't tell me there are no estonians that don't work. It could happen to everyone. Maybe to your parents or you , with the crisis going, it's certainly not only the immigrants..
it doesn't matter who it is, if you go to a country and want to stay there without doing shit then just leave.
There shouldn't be free looters from other peoples their work
No , Excuse me?
Where does it say you  HAVE to work? I agree ofcourse, but the way you say it , Completely wrong.. Can you go a bit more in depth?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Zeepleeuw on January 03, 2015, 11:31:10 pm
Maybe you have misunderstood me. After an hour long chat with Fireblast12, I have come to the conclusion that I should tell you better what I am against.

I'm against the current policy of multiculturalism. Non-respectful, violent, non-working immigrants coming to Europe and befoul our culture.
I have nothing against respectful and working immigrants.

That's something else ofcourse, You could mention that. You've changed the subject in a 360 degree. You was moments ago, just against them. now against a part. Means that Fireblast and I reached something.
But still, I kind of agree. But don't tell me there are no estonians that don't work. It could happen to everyone. Maybe to your parents or you , with the crisis going, it's certainly not only the immigrants..
it doesn't matter who it is, if you go to a country and want to stay there without doing shit then just leave.
There shouldn't be free looters from other peoples their work
No , Excuse me?
Where does it say you  HAVE to work? I agree ofcourse, but the way you say it , Completely wrong.. Can you go a bit more in depth?
Work/try to find work or get out. That's what he is saying.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on January 03, 2015, 11:33:34 pm
Maybe you have misunderstood me. After an hour long chat with Fireblast12, I have come to the conclusion that I should tell you better what I am against.

I'm against the current policy of multiculturalism. Non-respectful, violent, non-working immigrants coming to Europe and befoul our culture.
I have nothing against respectful and working immigrants.

That's something else ofcourse, You could mention that. You've changed the subject in a 360 degree. You was moments ago, just against them. now against a part. Means that Fireblast and I reached something.
But still, I kind of agree. But don't tell me there are no estonians that don't work. It could happen to everyone. Maybe to your parents or you , with the crisis going, it's certainly not only the immigrants..
it doesn't matter who it is, if you go to a country and want to stay there without doing shit then just leave.
There shouldn't be free looters from other peoples their work
No , Excuse me?
Where does it say you  HAVE to work? I agree ofcourse, but the way you say it , Completely wrong.. Can you go a bit more in depth?
Work/try to find work or get out. That's what he is saying.
People shouldn't live from someone else his work without doing shit, what's the purpose of those people?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Gold2m on January 10, 2015, 11:52:25 am
Diversity enriches!

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2015/Jan-09/283564-gunshots-and-several-explosions-heard-at-dammartin-en-goele-site-in-france.ashx
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Skunkberry on January 11, 2015, 10:28:15 pm
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4613549,00.html
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Knight Night on January 13, 2015, 06:59:05 pm
Im not an european but i'd like to share my opinion about few things :)

I'd support multiculturalism if there will be respect as everyone mentioned before, Everyone have his own free will.
Trying to convince others about following a religion is a good thing but if someone doesn't want to listen or follow anything that he doesn't want, should be respected as well, Since nobody likes things that comes in force.

Moreover about islamic religion, It's not about forcing people to follow it, And whoever do that by pretending he's doing something good, It's not, Maybe trying to convince people if they want to, but without force.

I believe it should be the way how people act.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Jafro on January 14, 2015, 02:10:08 pm
If you're coming to a country you need to respect their rules, likewise I wouldn't goto dubai thinking I can do what ever I want.

Alot of people say islam is peaceful but right now I'm not seeing it, in the news you see the extremist thinking they are doing "ALLAH" a favour, then in my town and cities around my town you see muslims congregated today as if they don't want to integrate into society.

In my opinion multiculturalism will not work in europe, and it is way too late now... If only every country had a Ahmed Aboutaleb as a leader.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Str Pvp14 on January 14, 2015, 08:15:16 pm

Trying to convince others about following a religion is a good thing but if someone doesn't want to listen or follow anything that he doesn't want, should be respected as well, Since nobody likes things that comes in force.
I disagree with you; no one should have a religion pushed upon themselves. What if someone was to convince you that Scientology was the right religion to choose?
Would you consider it a good thing or simply annoying?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Knight Night on January 14, 2015, 08:57:46 pm

Trying to convince others about following a religion is a good thing but if someone doesn't want to listen or follow anything that he doesn't want, should be respected as well, Since nobody likes things that comes in force.
I disagree with you; no one should have a religion pushed upon themselves. What if someone was to convince you that Scientology was the right religion to choose?
Would you consider it a good thing or simply annoying?

As I said, if he willing to listen to it, why not?
If he doesn't want you could just walk away like nothing happened, Simple :)
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Mr Emche on January 25, 2015, 12:09:06 am
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Ashootsh on February 05, 2015, 03:46:11 pm
If you're coming to a country you need to respect their rules, likewise I wouldn't goto dubai thinking I can do what ever I want.

Alot of people say islam is peaceful but right now I'm not seeing it, in the news you see the extremist thinking they are doing "ALLAH" a favour, then in my town and cities around my town you see muslims congregated today as if they don't want to integrate into society.

In my opinion multiculturalism will not work in europe, and it is way too late now... If only every country had a Ahmed Aboutaleb as a leader.

Can i delete this post? doesn't let me to, my post tho
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on February 05, 2015, 04:38:23 pm
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Ashootsh on February 05, 2015, 05:35:24 pm
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell
And when UK assaulted UAE back in 18s? we were known that we had a really strong sea military and very talented and learned, UK said that we are piracy and they destroyed half of the villages killing every single human was there... Does this make any sense to you?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Jafro on February 05, 2015, 06:22:34 pm
Imagine a world without religion... :D:D:D:D
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on February 05, 2015, 08:22:45 pm
Imagine a world without religion... :D:D:D:D
yes, people would just do random shit .
Some people are too stupid to understand that a world without religion would be more cruel than it is.
Aswell as a lot of activities wouldn't have happened--> less of a progress.
religion gives morals to people, don't steal, don't kill, don't cheat, don't rape, etc.
People believe in God and believe that there is someone/something that keeps an eye on their deeds and that every deed is important, so you can't just kill a thing cos you want to kill a thing.
I agree on the fact that some cunts are making use of religion to do bad deeds, but those cunts are extremists.
tl dr: your sentence is some crappy shit you wrote without thinking, better make it 'imagine a world without extremism'.
kmanylovestoyouall<3
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Mr Emche on February 05, 2015, 08:59:25 pm
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell

What do you mean by reckless in history? most S.E. Asian remembered their history very well so that we learn from our mistake in the year 1511 [the year where The Malacca Sultanate fall into the hands of the Portuguese , Malayan people had been enslaved , colonized , and suffer for almost 500 fcking year , we obtained our independent in year 1957 ] The western people had give us nothing but suffering in the name of "civilization" . We had been colonized by Portuguese , The Dutch , England [ E.I.Company to be accurate] , and Japanese Empire . All of those countries only interested in one thing , our Fcking resources [ we got shtloads of gold and tin ,in the old days we are called "Golden Peninsular",now we are called "worthless Pile of land"] .

Now tell me again how asians been reckless in history? please i really do , oh by the way , im studying for History Major in University[semester 2] . you cant lie about history to me dude .
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on February 05, 2015, 09:08:52 pm
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell

What do you mean by reckless in history? most S.E. Asian remembered their history very well so that we learn from our mistake in the year 1511 [the year where The Malacca Sultanate fall into the hands of the Portuguese , Malayan people had been enslaved , colonized , and suffer for almost 500 fcking year , we obtained our independent in year 1957 ] The western people had give us nothing but suffering in the name of "civilization" . We had been colonized by Portuguese , The Dutch , England [ E.I.Company to be accurate] , and Japanese Empire . All of those countries only interested in one thing , our Fcking resources [ we got shtloads of gold and tin ,in the old days we are called "Golden Peninsular",now we are called "worthless Pile of land"] .

Now tell me again how asians been reckless in history? please i really do , oh by the way , im studying for History Major in University[semester 2] . you cant lie about history to me dude .
I read your first reply too fast and didn't read that you meant s-e asias specificly.
my apologises.
Anyway, you can't be like arabs are more violent than any culture.
You can't be judging the acts of people by their culture.
I don't think that normal arab parents raise their kids to kill and conquer.
Other cultures did a lot of killing and conquering, not just the arabs.
Examples:attila, ghengis khan, hitler, crusades, conquering of 'murica etc
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Mr Emche on February 05, 2015, 09:22:44 pm
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell

What do you mean by reckless in history? most S.E. Asian remembered their history very well so that we learn from our mistake in the year 1511 [the year where The Malacca Sultanate fall into the hands of the Portuguese , Malayan people had been enslaved , colonized , and suffer for almost 500 fcking year , we obtained our independent in year 1957 ] The western people had give us nothing but suffering in the name of "civilization" . We had been colonized by Portuguese , The Dutch , England [ E.I.Company to be accurate] , and Japanese Empire . All of those countries only interested in one thing , our Fcking resources [ we got shtloads of gold and tin ,in the old days we are called "Golden Peninsular",now we are called "worthless Pile of land"] .

Now tell me again how asians been reckless in history? please i really do , oh by the way , im studying for History Major in University[semester 2] . you cant lie about history to me dude .
I read your first reply too fast and didn't read that you meant s-e asias specificly.
my apologises.
Anyway, you can't be like arabs are more violent than any culture.
You can't be judging the acts of people by their culture.
I don't think that normal arab parents raise their kids to kill and conquer.
Other cultures did a lot of killing and conquering, not just the arabs.
Examples:attila, ghengis khan, hitler, crusades, conquering of 'murica etc

Yes you might be right , perhaps all humans have a little "dark-side" of their own , its all the matters of choice . My bad for blaming the Arabs , it just cant help it you know , if you think of Arabs you think of the Al - Bhasus war [as a history student] .
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Jafro on February 06, 2015, 01:12:31 am
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell

What do you mean by reckless in history? most S.E. Asian remembered their history very well so that we learn from our mistake in the year 1511 [the year where The Malacca Sultanate fall into the hands of the Portuguese , Malayan people had been enslaved , colonized , and suffer for almost 500 fcking year , we obtained our independent in year 1957 ] The western people had give us nothing but suffering in the name of "civilization" . We had been colonized by Portuguese , The Dutch , England [ E.I.Company to be accurate] , and Japanese Empire . All of those countries only interested in one thing , our Fcking resources [ we got shtloads of gold and tin ,in the old days we are called "Golden Peninsular",now we are called "worthless Pile of land"] .

Now tell me again how asians been reckless in history? please i really do , oh by the way , im studying for History Major in University[semester 2] . you cant lie about history to me dude .
I read your first reply too fast and didn't read that you meant s-e asias specificly.
my apologises.
Anyway, you can't be like arabs are more violent than any culture.
You can't be judging the acts of people by their culture.
I don't think that normal arab parents raise their kids to kill and conquer.
Other cultures did a lot of killing and conquering, not just the arabs.
Examples:attila, ghengis khan, hitler, crusades, conquering of 'murica etc

Hahahaha cba to argue but... unreal :)
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Ashootsh on February 06, 2015, 09:30:48 am
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell

What do you mean by reckless in history? most S.E. Asian remembered their history very well so that we learn from our mistake in the year 1511 [the year where The Malacca Sultanate fall into the hands of the Portuguese , Malayan people had been enslaved , colonized , and suffer for almost 500 fcking year , we obtained our independent in year 1957 ] The western people had give us nothing but suffering in the name of "civilization" . We had been colonized by Portuguese , The Dutch , England [ E.I.Company to be accurate] , and Japanese Empire . All of those countries only interested in one thing , our Fcking resources [ we got shtloads of gold and tin ,in the old days we are called "Golden Peninsular",now we are called "worthless Pile of land"] .

Now tell me again how asians been reckless in history? please i really do , oh by the way , im studying for History Major in University[semester 2] . you cant lie about history to me dude .
I read your first reply too fast and didn't read that you meant s-e asias specificly.
my apologises.
Anyway, you can't be like arabs are more violent than any culture.
You can't be judging the acts of people by their culture.
I don't think that normal arab parents raise their kids to kill and conquer.
Other cultures did a lot of killing and conquering, not just the arabs.
Examples:attila, ghengis khan, hitler, crusades, conquering of 'murica etc
You know me, i'm not violent and i don't like to kill people.. makes my life terrible
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on February 06, 2015, 03:19:00 pm
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell

What do you mean by reckless in history? most S.E. Asian remembered their history very well so that we learn from our mistake in the year 1511 [the year where The Malacca Sultanate fall into the hands of the Portuguese , Malayan people had been enslaved , colonized , and suffer for almost 500 fcking year , we obtained our independent in year 1957 ] The western people had give us nothing but suffering in the name of "civilization" . We had been colonized by Portuguese , The Dutch , England [ E.I.Company to be accurate] , and Japanese Empire . All of those countries only interested in one thing , our Fcking resources [ we got shtloads of gold and tin ,in the old days we are called "Golden Peninsular",now we are called "worthless Pile of land"] .

Now tell me again how asians been reckless in history? please i really do , oh by the way , im studying for History Major in University[semester 2] . you cant lie about history to me dude .
I read your first reply too fast and didn't read that you meant s-e asias specificly.
my apologises.
Anyway, you can't be like arabs are more violent than any culture.
You can't be judging the acts of people by their culture.
I don't think that normal arab parents raise their kids to kill and conquer.
Other cultures did a lot of killing and conquering, not just the arabs.
Examples:attila, ghengis khan, hitler, crusades, conquering of 'murica etc

Hahahaha cba to argue but... unreal :)
Then don't post your useless random shit in here, this is a debate topic and not a I believe or I don't believe topic.
Please use arguments or gtfo .kty<3
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Jafro on February 08, 2015, 12:15:22 am
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell

What do you mean by reckless in history? most S.E. Asian remembered their history very well so that we learn from our mistake in the year 1511 [the year where The Malacca Sultanate fall into the hands of the Portuguese , Malayan people had been enslaved , colonized , and suffer for almost 500 fcking year , we obtained our independent in year 1957 ] The western people had give us nothing but suffering in the name of "civilization" . We had been colonized by Portuguese , The Dutch , England [ E.I.Company to be accurate] , and Japanese Empire . All of those countries only interested in one thing , our Fcking resources [ we got shtloads of gold and tin ,in the old days we are called "Golden Peninsular",now we are called "worthless Pile of land"] .

Now tell me again how asians been reckless in history? please i really do , oh by the way , im studying for History Major in University[semester 2] . you cant lie about history to me dude .
I read your first reply too fast and didn't read that you meant s-e asias specificly.
my apologises.
Anyway, you can't be like arabs are more violent than any culture.
You can't be judging the acts of people by their culture.
I don't think that normal arab parents raise their kids to kill and conquer.
Other cultures did a lot of killing and conquering, not just the arabs.
Examples:attila, ghengis khan, hitler, crusades, conquering of 'murica etc

Hahahaha cba to argue but... unreal :)
Then don't post your useless random shit in here, this is a debate topic and not a I believe or I don't believe topic.
Please use arguments or gtfo .kty<3

Nah it's funny how much of a nob you're being, obviously something has offended you...

I'm saying we're in the 21st century and people still believe in fairies in the sky, I don't accept what you say about there will be more crime if religion wasn't around as that is absolute BS :)
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on February 08, 2015, 01:15:52 pm
As a Malaysian, let me share with you guys what multiculture had done to my country .

we malaysian consist by three different races ( Malay , chinese , indian ). Thus creating a unique mixture of culture in many aspect.
As a malay myself , i am proud that my country can sustain PEACE between races that have many differences , not to mention ALL malay
are muslim , yes , i am a muslim , and no , i dont carry bombs and RPG with me . everyday we malaysian see the news from the west, all of us
was like " lol, thats your highly civilized western people right there". what im trying to say is , multiculturalism in europe could cause no harm at all ,
if you could set aside that racist , low-level thinking of yours . look at us small south-east asian country , try to make example of that .

ive seen some of you post negative things about muslim here , let me tell you something , if you blaming Islam for causing havoc around the globe
then why us south east asia (malaysia,indonesia,brunei)(those are countries that islam is official religion) still live in peace? the REAL problem is the
ARABIAN . arabian are know for their warmongering personality since the middle-east dark age . back then they would go to war for the smallest
reasons (camel stolen,lost gambling, etc) . we south east asian know that fact since long ago , but the western keep blaming the religion .
bruh asians were reckless in history aswell

What do you mean by reckless in history? most S.E. Asian remembered their history very well so that we learn from our mistake in the year 1511 [the year where The Malacca Sultanate fall into the hands of the Portuguese , Malayan people had been enslaved , colonized , and suffer for almost 500 fcking year , we obtained our independent in year 1957 ] The western people had give us nothing but suffering in the name of "civilization" . We had been colonized by Portuguese , The Dutch , England [ E.I.Company to be accurate] , and Japanese Empire . All of those countries only interested in one thing , our Fcking resources [ we got shtloads of gold and tin ,in the old days we are called "Golden Peninsular",now we are called "worthless Pile of land"] .

Now tell me again how asians been reckless in history? please i really do , oh by the way , im studying for History Major in University[semester 2] . you cant lie about history to me dude .
I read your first reply too fast and didn't read that you meant s-e asias specificly.
my apologises.
Anyway, you can't be like arabs are more violent than any culture.
You can't be judging the acts of people by their culture.
I don't think that normal arab parents raise their kids to kill and conquer.
Other cultures did a lot of killing and conquering, not just the arabs.
Examples:attila, ghengis khan, hitler, crusades, conquering of 'murica etc

Hahahaha cba to argue but... unreal :)
Then don't post your useless random shit in here, this is a debate topic and not a I believe or I don't believe topic.
Please use arguments or gtfo .kty<3

Nah it's funny how much of a nob you're being, obviously something has offended you...

I'm saying we're in the 21st century and people still believe in fairies in the sky, I don't accept what you say about there will be more crime if religion wasn't around as that is absolute BS :)
explain, if you say something , tell me why.
This is a topic to DEBATE not to accept or not to accept.
that hard to understand?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Jafro on February 08, 2015, 06:30:59 pm
Debates i.e the nerd version of fighting???

Just chill man, if you wanna believe/pray to the fairies in the sky go do that... You only need to do a bit of research and the figures for deaths by religion is ridiculous... But ofc you're right :)
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Zeepleeuw on February 11, 2015, 08:15:25 pm
Debates i.e the nerd version of fighting???

Just chill man, if you wanna believe/pray to the fairies in the sky go do that... You only need to do a bit of research and the figures for deaths by religion is ridiculous... But ofc you're right :)
so the thing that you are saying is : everyone who is religious kills?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Joshiee on February 12, 2015, 07:18:05 pm
Do not take offense to this but if everyone was athiest, the world would be a better place.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on February 12, 2015, 07:22:55 pm
Do not take offense to this but if everyone was athiest, the world would be a better place.


Imagine a world without religion... :D:D:D:D
yes, people would just do random shit .
Some people are too stupid to understand that a world without religion would be more cruel than it is.
Aswell as a lot of activities wouldn't have happened--> less of a progress.
religion gives morals to people, don't steal, don't kill, don't cheat, don't rape, etc.
People believe in God and believe that there is someone/something that keeps an eye on their deeds and that every deed is important, so you can't just kill a thing cos you want to kill a thing.
I agree on the fact that some cunts are making use of religion to do bad deeds, but those cunts are extremists.
tl dr: your sentence is some crappy shit you wrote without thinking, better make it 'imagine a world without extremism'.
kmanylovestoyouall<3
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Rockmanexe on February 13, 2015, 11:17:39 pm
Do not take offense to this but if everyone was athiest, the world would be a better place.
i don't think so not like im taking it as a offense but i don't want to get a headache so im not explaining why let fireblast explain why
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Mr Emche on February 14, 2015, 09:04:21 am
Do not take offense to this but if everyone was athiest, the world would be a better place.

Josh.. seriously , you statement are like blaming the guns for killing people . And we will live in peace if there is no guns in this world .
Being athiest or theist doesnt makes things better or worst , its not fair that you blame the religion for all things that happen in this world .

I thought you are smarter than this....
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Charr on February 20, 2015, 01:26:07 am
Do not take offense to this but if everyone was athiest, the world would be a better place.

Josh.. seriously , your statement are is like blaming the guns for killing people . And we will live in peace if there is are no guns in this world .
Being athiest or theist doesnt makes make things better or worst worse , its not fair that you blame the religion for all things that happen in this world .

I thought you are were smarter than this....
It isn't religion that's bad.
It's the fact that multiple religions usually don't go all that well together.
Not every conflict/problem in the world is caused by religion, but there are a lot of them that are caused by religion.
I can completely understand joshiee's statement.

You are right, theist or atheist doesn't matter.
Open mindedness does, and a lot of people tend to be very close minded about stuff.
Not saying all religious people are close minded, but most of the really devoted are.

"If you can't have your faith questioned, you need to have your faith questioned."
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Fireblast12 on February 21, 2015, 11:53:36 pm
Do not take offense to this but if everyone was athiest, the world would be a better place.

Josh.. seriously , your statement are is like blaming the guns for killing people . And we will live in peace if there is are no guns in this world .
Being athiest or theist doesnt makes make things better or worst worse , its not fair that you blame the religion for all things that happen in this world .

I thought you are were smarter than this....
It isn't religion that's bad.
It's the fact that multiple religions usually don't go all that well together.
Not every conflict/problem in the world is caused by religion, but there are a lot of them that are caused by religion.
I can completely understand joshiee's statement.

You are right, theist or atheist doesn't matter.
Open mindedness does, and a lot of people tend to be very close minded about stuff.
Not saying all religious people are close minded, but most of the really devoted are.

"If you can't have your faith questioned, you need to have your faith questioned."
People will be biased on each other, religion is just an excuse for them to rek each other.
If there would be no religion people will find something else as an excuse(hair colour,sex, song preferences, blablabla).
IMO religion has done more good than bad
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Mr Emche on February 22, 2015, 05:47:23 pm
Do not take offense to this but if everyone was athiest, the world would be a better place.

Josh.. seriously , your statement are is like blaming the guns for killing people . And we will live in peace if there is are no guns in this world .
Being athiest or theist doesnt makes make things better or worst worse , its not fair that you blame the religion for all things that happen in this world .

I thought you are were smarter than this....
It isn't religion that's bad.
It's the fact that multiple religions usually don't go all that well together.
Not every conflict/problem in the world is caused by religion, but there are a lot of them that are caused by religion.
I can completely understand joshiee's statement.

You are right, theist or atheist doesn't matter.
Open mindedness does, and a lot of people tend to be very close minded about stuff.
Not saying all religious people are close minded, but most of the really devoted are.

"If you can't have your faith questioned, you need to have your faith questioned."

well , thnx for the grammar corrections , im from freaking asia , knowing a colonist language from across the pacific is quite something~

questioning ones faith is fine , but people must learn the difference between "questioning"  and "attacking". All i see nowdays is that people tend to attack and mock people's faith rather than questioning . like the Charlie guy for example .


Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Ekke on June 17, 2015, 08:26:44 pm
First 80 very nice people placed in a village in Estonia. First few months - local woman was raped.

Estonian bikers are planning a group ride to the village.

Go multiculti!
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Zeepleeuw on June 17, 2015, 10:11:18 pm
First 80 niggers placed in a village in Estonia. First few months - local woman was raped.

Estonian bikers are planning a group ride to the village.

Go multiculti!
Topkekke, any english article About this? <3
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Someone12116 on June 18, 2015, 03:42:13 am
Why isn't this thread named "Racism in Europe" already. And why is this still open ._.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Ekke on June 18, 2015, 06:59:18 am
Why isn't this thread named "Racism in Europe" already. And why is this still open ._.
Because it's a wider topic? Because current affair?

No, sorry zeep <3
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Freestuffyay on June 18, 2015, 08:06:39 am
First 80 niggers placed in a village in Estonia. First few months - local woman was raped.

Estonian bikers are planning a group ride to the village.

Go multiculti!
So you put one case of rape on an entire race?
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Someone12116 on June 18, 2015, 08:34:46 am
Why isn't this thread named "Racism in Europe" already. And why is this still open ._.
Because it's a wider topic? Because current affair?

No, sorry zeep <3

"80 niggers blah blah blah..."
I would be banned for this. In fact, I'm sure somebody will probably infract me for quoting the word "nigger" you said. You could also provide some source where you get this information so people would actually believe in some of these stories.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Charr on June 19, 2015, 07:33:35 am
Locked.
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Range 4 Meee on June 19, 2015, 11:21:44 am
Nice lock m7. :kappa:
Title: Re: Multiculturalism in Europe
Post by: Str8att7 on June 19, 2015, 01:02:31 pm
Now it is.